Oh yes! The most fun I ever had was sitting with my 8th grade son (now in college dating a classics major) on the floor of the library in front of the Homer shelves, reading particular sections to each other from every translation we could find. I so wish we had found a Penguin "...in English" collection! I will have to seek one out!
Steve! That cover is a photo of a sculpture by the great Barque sculptor, Bernini. He designed some of the interior of St. Peter's. Check out his David, then compare to Michelangelo's. His David is at the point of action, ready to throw the slingshot at Goliath. Movement, action, drama - one difference between the Renaissance and the Baroque - the great period that followed it.
This was a fascinating little introduction into Ovid. The Penguin series is brilliant!! ❤️. I love that you are going book by book. Please go ahead and read us an excerpt or two, especially of your favourite passages!! You bring the words and these authors to life for us.
I’m reading that exact edition (Raeburn) now. Decided to take it slowly & read one or two stories a day. Loving it! Penguin published ‘The Penguin Classics Book’ (Ed. Henry Eliot 2018) which is a gorgeous book with loads of illustrations going through the history of the brand & all the historic editions. Full of interesting facts. It looks as though they don’t do the Letters of Exile currently but they do have The Erotic Poems and the Fasti.
I'm thinking of reading Ovid soon, so this was immensely helpful, Steve, but that isn't unusual, you website and this channel are my go to when I'm looking to read a new to me author.
I am part of a generation that was taught Latin in Spain’s equivalent of the American high-school. It is always fun when I take my wife and son to a cathedral or a church in Europe, stand in front of a knight's or a queen's grave and I translate the inscriptions. As much as we had to read the Roman masters, I never dared to read Ovid’s Metamorphosis and this video may have changed that. If you subscribe to this channel you have a responsibility to spread the word of master Donoghue’s videos so that through these amazing presentations enjoying a good read does not follow the Dodo.
I took a class in Greek and Roman epics in undergrad, and of the 5ish we read, the Metamorphoses was the real surprise to me. Ovid is truly a splendid storyteller; definitely one of the best books I’ve read in a long time. I’ll have to read the rest of his works at some point.
I’ve had insomnia recently and discovered your channel. It’s really interesting even if you made these videos two years ago. Lots of great ancient authors to catch up on.
An English Lurker peeping out to say that I am following these penguin classics with interest and managing to keep up with each daily episode. Hope it inspires Hannah to make further videos. Kind regards.
I do like the idea of the selected pieces translated by different persons for comparison, so Ovid in English sounds like a good starter, if, and when, I get round to Ovid.
I’ve read The Metamorphoses twice and love it, but I guess I need to find that Poems in Exile volume at some point! And just make more progress on reading what Ovid I already own that isn’t The Metamorphoses!
I thoroughly enjoyed the Penguin Classic translation by Arthur Golding from 1567(?). It certainly has its difficulties but is probably the one used by Shakespeare.
A fascinating topic. I once wrote an essay comparing three different translations of a short section of Ovid's Metamorphosis. It was Goulding, Hughes and one other. I don't think people appreciate quite how different such "translations" can be. I definitely like Hughes's version the best, although I see it more as a modern reinterpretation than any kind of attempt at an exact translation. I didn't know the story of Ovid's exile, sounds like the plot of a historical mystery/scandal novel. What can he have done?
Hey Steve , got to admit I am loving this series.. i consider these as gems. Isn’t it time to make a separate video playlist of such interesting series ? It will definitely be easy on us to find your theme oriented videos ! It can be considered part of 2020 start up goal :)
I have been looking forward to this one and you don't disappoint do you? The dilemmas around the translation of poetry are fascinating. Capture the spirit or stick to the original in a more literal sense?
@@saintdonoghue Hahha well yes. I don't know I kind of think it is strange when I see a person who looks like someone I know, but I guess that happens a lot. 😂
There is a Penguin Classics edition titled the Erotic Poems that collects the Amores and the Art of Love (Ars Amatoria?). The introduction proposes that Ovid’s exile was due to a political conspiracy involving Julia. This series continues to be fantastic. Metamorphoses is on my reading list for this year. Haha
Oh yes! The most fun I ever had was sitting with my 8th grade son (now in college dating a classics major) on the floor of the library in front of the Homer shelves, reading particular sections to each other from every translation we could find. I so wish we had found a Penguin "...in English" collection! I will have to seek one out!
Steve! That cover is a photo of a sculpture by the great Barque sculptor, Bernini. He designed some of the interior of St. Peter's. Check out his David, then compare to Michelangelo's. His David is at the point of action, ready to throw the slingshot at Goliath. Movement, action, drama - one difference between the Renaissance and the Baroque - the great period that followed it.
I MUCH prefer prose translations than poems, so I'm glad you mentioned the prose translation of ovid, so i can get that xD
This was a fascinating little introduction into Ovid. The Penguin series is brilliant!! ❤️. I love that you are going book by book. Please go ahead and read us an excerpt or two, especially of your favourite passages!! You bring the words and these authors to life for us.
I’m reading that exact edition (Raeburn) now. Decided to take it slowly & read one or two stories a day. Loving it! Penguin published ‘The Penguin Classics Book’ (Ed. Henry Eliot 2018) which is a gorgeous book with loads of illustrations going through the history of the brand & all the historic editions. Full of interesting facts. It looks as though they don’t do the Letters of Exile currently but they do have The Erotic Poems and the Fasti.
I'm thinking of reading Ovid soon, so this was immensely helpful, Steve, but that isn't unusual, you website and this channel are my go to when I'm looking to read a new to me author.
I am part of a generation that was taught Latin in Spain’s equivalent of the American high-school. It is always fun when I take my wife and son to a cathedral or a church in Europe, stand in front of a knight's or a queen's grave and I translate the inscriptions. As much as we had to read the Roman masters, I never dared to read Ovid’s Metamorphosis and this video may have changed that. If you subscribe to this channel you have a responsibility to spread the word of master Donoghue’s videos so that through these amazing presentations enjoying a good read does not follow the Dodo.
Thank you for the translations tip!
I love the Mary Innes prose translation. It was the first translation of the Metamorphoses I ever read-in high school.
I took a class in Greek and Roman epics in undergrad, and of the 5ish we read, the Metamorphoses was the real surprise to me. Ovid is truly a splendid storyteller; definitely one of the best books I’ve read in a long time. I’ll have to read the rest of his works at some point.
I’ve had insomnia recently and discovered your channel. It’s really interesting even if you made these videos two years ago. Lots of great ancient authors to catch up on.
An English Lurker peeping out to say that I am following these penguin classics with interest and managing to keep up with each daily episode. Hope it inspires Hannah to make further videos. Kind regards.
Michael Moore How kind of you!
Just curious Steve- why is it your favorite book? And how long has it been?
I do like the idea of the selected pieces translated by different persons for comparison, so Ovid in English sounds like a good starter, if, and when, I get round to Ovid.
Love Metamorphoses!
Terrific advice on translation!
I’ve read The Metamorphoses twice and love it, but I guess I need to find that Poems in Exile volume at some point! And just make more progress on reading what Ovid I already own that isn’t The Metamorphoses!
I thoroughly enjoyed the Penguin Classic translation by Arthur Golding from 1567(?). It certainly has its difficulties but is probably the one used by Shakespeare.
Was waiting on this one ! Poems of Exile it is
You forgot his tragedy Medea! As far as I know it has been lost to history.
A fascinating topic. I once wrote an essay comparing three different translations of a short section of Ovid's Metamorphosis. It was Goulding, Hughes and one other. I don't think people appreciate quite how different such "translations" can be. I definitely like Hughes's version the best, although I see it more as a modern reinterpretation than any kind of attempt at an exact translation.
I didn't know the story of Ovid's exile, sounds like the plot of a historical mystery/scandal novel. What can he have done?
Hey Steve , got to admit I am loving this series.. i consider these as gems. Isn’t it time to make a separate video playlist of such interesting series ? It will definitely be easy on us to find your theme oriented videos !
It can be considered part of 2020 start up goal :)
I think somebody out there is already making a playlist for these, aren't they? Don't I remember a comment to that effect?
Here is the Penguin playlist someone is making:
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I have been looking forward to this one and you don't disappoint do you? The dilemmas around the translation of poetry are fascinating. Capture the spirit or stick to the original in a more literal sense?
You should do a live stream where you take frida on a walk
Fabulous !!!
I know this sound weird , but you kind of look like my dad. 😂 Anyway great video , I really should try to find some of Ovid's books at the library.
Why would that sound weird? All it means is that your dad is devastatingly handsome!
@@saintdonoghue Hahha well yes. I don't know I kind of think it is strange when I see a person who looks like someone I know, but I guess that happens a lot. 😂
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Why read him in translation if you can read the original?
To read the translation.
There is a Penguin Classics edition titled the Erotic Poems that collects the Amores and the Art of Love (Ars Amatoria?). The introduction proposes that Ovid’s exile was due to a political conspiracy involving Julia.
This series continues to be fantastic. Metamorphoses is on my reading list for this year. Haha