1948 Crosley 12 Inch TV FM Radio Resurrection

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • vintage black and white television fm radio assessment for restore
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  • @tomcarlson3913
    @tomcarlson3913 3 года назад +122

    Shango, This Crosley is a rebadged Dumont RA-103. Stromberg Carlson also sold a rebadged version of this chassis in the TV-10 and TV-12. I believe there were other rebadeges too. I've owned both the Dumont RA-103 doghouse and the SC set. Both had the same parallel carbon comp resistors and they were even noted in the schematic. SC actually painted over all the Dumont transformers with their own branding and part numbers.
    The 12JP4 was a pyrex tube with shouldering around the neck, a more rounded transition from side glass to screen, Dumonts funky proprietary HV connector button, and IIRC no ion trap or aluminization (definitely had ion burn)....Together those elements made it look like a pre-WWII CRT design.
    Those harnesses should have string binding them together not electrical tape....BTW look for one where mice have eaten the harness...I made one good chassis from 2 where the mice ate the harness (I built up the one that stunk less/was stained less). The mice ate different parts of the harness in each set so I spent a day making 1 good harness out of 2 ruined ones (good times).
    Probably the 2 hardest to get commonly failed parts on these Dumont chassis are the B+ relay and the focus pot. IIRC the flyback is basically a a common early RCA fly, and the 12" round CRTs are around $100 if you ask around the TV collecting community (hell I even have a spare 12LP4).

    • @raymondleggs5508
      @raymondleggs5508 3 года назад +22

      even a fake crosley from over 60 years ago is better than a fake crosley from today!

    • @jimmyday9536
      @jimmyday9536 3 года назад +4

      Yes you are right. The Dumont "Inductuner" gives it away.

    • @kevdance4691
      @kevdance4691 2 года назад

      Q and ft K y65

  • @electrofan7180
    @electrofan7180 3 года назад +70

    What a waste to use such a set just as case donor for soulless modern tv. This set is in very very nice condition and deserves full restoration. Shame on its owner!

    • @trevorhaddox6884
      @trevorhaddox6884 3 года назад +10

      A Chinese POS that'll be dead in 7 years, let alone 70. I hate upcycling/modernization culture.

    • @ILSRWY4
      @ILSRWY4 3 года назад +3

      The TV will be useless unless its modified... it will never get a picture. All Signals, by LAW, in united States are transmitted in Digital HD so unless you modify that set with a digital to analog converter it will never work.

    • @trevorhaddox6884
      @trevorhaddox6884 3 года назад +19

      @@ILSRWY4No you just use an external digital to analog converter box hooked up to the antenna leads, cheap as mud and readily available. That's how he was getting a picture on it.

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 2 года назад +5

      @@ILSRWY4 Could always feed a signal to it like early home computers all had an RF connector to hook to a TV set - IOW, don't have to broadcast a signal to it in order to try and bring the screen back to life

    • @Ron2600_
      @Ron2600_ 2 года назад +5

      @@ILSRWY4 Use a RF modgulator and a HDMI to composite converter.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 3 года назад +80

    It must be a shock to the set for it to be restored to an era where the content of Tv programming has become so bad. If Tvs could comprehend the content they would shut themselves off in disgust.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 3 года назад +3

      TV is so much better now it's not even funny. We're in what's widely considered the golden age of television

    • @pyeltd.5457
      @pyeltd.5457 3 года назад

      @@onometre when TV is a thing of the past ?

    • @seanobrien7169
      @seanobrien7169 3 года назад +11

      @@onometre lol, TV is rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Try reading a book...If you can read...If you are under 40 it is doubtful....

    • @trevorhaddox6884
      @trevorhaddox6884 3 года назад +8

      Someone should do a Brave Little Toaster style parody of Shango. It would be hilarious, all of his equipment would be ranting about polotics when he wasn't looking.

    • @onometre
      @onometre 3 года назад +3

      @@seanobrien7169 thank you for the laugh. just remember, I'll be here long after you're gone

  • @user-uk7uu9us1w
    @user-uk7uu9us1w 3 года назад +38

    You should talk your friend into fixing such a piece of history and just build something for a display

    • @MyYouTube11163
      @MyYouTube11163 Месяц назад

      He definitely should NOT do what he is planning to do.
      Beautiful set! Restore, not butcher up!!

  • @strangeluck
    @strangeluck 3 года назад +101

    I hope the TV's case and chassis are reunited and restored one day. It's a worthy set. I wouldn't bet on it though. 😕

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy 3 года назад +16

      Yeah, once stuff gets separated it never finds its way back. Shame. If the guy just wants the cabinet, he should look for a basket case to take apart.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 3 года назад +9

      @@KameraShy This is a 48 with FM! He should definitely chose a different set to do his dumb project and restore this one.
      Of course, I kind of understand not wanting a FM radio using 85 watts or a 285 watt B&W TV if you are actually going to use it

    • @skinnyblinddude
      @skinnyblinddude 3 года назад +1

      Me too!

    • @greggaieck4119
      @greggaieck4119 2 года назад +1

      Shangoo66 what a Kool 1948 crosley 12inch tv fm radio receive

    • @greggaieck4119
      @greggaieck4119 2 года назад +1

      Shangoo66 I wish you a happy THANKSGIVING

  • @versedbridge4007
    @versedbridge4007 3 года назад +45

    When crosley was quality.

    • @MrKillswitch88
      @MrKillswitch88 3 года назад +12

      Pepperridge Farm Remembers

    • @tedbell4416
      @tedbell4416 3 года назад +10

      And the women were straight

    • @eringatewood5062
      @eringatewood5062 3 года назад +8

      Seems a lot more Dumont than Crosley.

    • @swettyspaghtti
      @swettyspaghtti 3 года назад +6

      @@MrKillswitch88 Joey Biden does not remember ....anything.

    • @swettyspaghtti
      @swettyspaghtti 3 года назад

      70 odd years ago XD

  • @sumwanelz6150
    @sumwanelz6150 3 года назад +34

    Seeing modern broadcast on such an ancient set gave me chills, like some Twilight Zone kid accidentally tuning in to a dystopian future...

    • @tedbell4416
      @tedbell4416 Год назад

      Bow to the dystopian it's the only way

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 3 года назад +29

    Conductance: 1) the reciprocal of resistance, measured in Mhos. 2) the ability to pass sh*tloads of current before exploding in a giant fireball visible from Alpha Centauri. Or, at least China.

    • @googlem7
      @googlem7 3 года назад +2

      mhos was the former name it is siemens now 👍

  • @uxwbill
    @uxwbill 3 года назад +25

    Since I haven't seen it come up elsewhere in the comments...that tuner is very probably a Mallory InducTuner. It's a very high quality part, extremely reliable and well made. The FM coverage came simply as a bonus of its continuous tuning design.

  • @supersonic_vienna
    @supersonic_vienna Год назад +15

    70years old and still running on original parts. That is build quality 😃😃😃👍 Great work!

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix 8 месяцев назад

      Crosley cruiser, 1 year old and fit for the bin.

  • @tommee10533
    @tommee10533 3 года назад +8

    Tell your friend to go to the nearest GW store and get a 12" color tv there. and leave that tv alone for crying outloud..

  • @johnsampson1096
    @johnsampson1096 3 года назад +70

    I believe the idea was to just conserve the picture tube while using FM by turning off filament to the CRT. Not a power saver, a picture bulb saver. What a well designed set!

    • @BobWiersema
      @BobWiersema 3 года назад +4

      I believe your theory is sound. Not sure however if someone was trying to save the Tube or just make parts of it work without popping the main fuse. Things like this were not tossed in the garbage back then. If you can get the radio part to work, it's still good.

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 3 года назад +11

    Oh wow, I think this is the first TV set that you worked on that has the old U.S. Channel One ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_1_(North_American_TV)

  • @vancouverman4313
    @vancouverman4313 3 года назад +13

    Sad the owner wants to put modern electronics in the inside and not use the set as an original. He should just have a lookalike prop made. Not difficult to do, most people wouldn't know the difference.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 3 года назад +2

      I agree.. it might sound a bit 'hippy' of me to say, but the layout of those components is a fine art. Some fine analog engineering.

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 3 года назад +8

    That rotary selector switch on the front...
    Is the fastener that holds it in place called the Radio TV Phono Nut?

  • @2packs4sure
    @2packs4sure 3 года назад +10

    I used to own the Stromberg Carlson version of that set.
    I think it was called a TV 12,, had the matching stand...

  • @0tt0z
    @0tt0z 3 года назад +14

    Hell yeah. A long video!

  • @Iconoclasher
    @Iconoclasher 3 года назад +24

    As to the resistors in parallel, I've seen it too on old amplifiers and radios. It would show a single resistor on the schematic.
    My late friend and electro-mentor explained to me the manufacturers would occasionally purchase components in bulk and if they had extra resistors of a given value and could be paralleled to give the desired value they would do it to expedite or save some $.
    Resistors are the most flexible components as far as configuring for proper resistance and wattage.
    Those look like 2w resistors. My guess is they needed the higher wattage, using off the shelf resistors instead of ordering larger ones.

    • @classiccomputers6211
      @classiccomputers6211 3 года назад +3

      TV was exploding during the time period this set was made and manufacturers were going through a TON of components. It was definitely cost/time saving, or maybe they couldn't source the correct resistor as parts shortages were common.

    • @Iconoclasher
      @Iconoclasher 3 года назад +4

      @@classiccomputers6211
      I agree. 👍 As the war wound down it took awhile for industry to catch up to demand. I think with war surplus there were train loads of electronic components that never got used, so the TV and radio companies bought up what they could and just used them. They probably payed a few cents per pound and they just made them work.

    • @classiccomputers6211
      @classiccomputers6211 3 года назад +3

      @@Iconoclasher For sure. You definitely run across some crazy stuff in sets of that era. Bob Andersen even mentioned running into West German and Japanese components in some of the old 40s and 50s Admiral TVs - I've never come across this myself but its certainly plausible!

  • @DankNoodles420
    @DankNoodles420 3 года назад +11

    YESS another Shango repair video and its my day off of work! I love your videos they are so soothing for the soul. I eagerly await each upload. It is like a nice treat after a long days worth of hard work. Keep up the awesome work my man!

  • @TheTreegodfather
    @TheTreegodfather 2 года назад +2

    I'd much prefer someone who admits they don't know something than acts like a know-it-all. 👍

  • @fevengr9245
    @fevengr9245 3 года назад +22

    A 70-whatever year old set with probably at least half the capacitors being leaky, and you (as usual) get it to work. Amazing! The one thing missing in the video was what you did at 1:17:42 to get the picture to work.

    • @shango066
      @shango066  3 года назад +17

      Moved the ion trap magnet. Maybe that becomes clear at the very end of the video IDK

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 2 года назад +2

      Never know, I might get a moments rest and time to watch the rest of the video one day! Usually manage to make time for these longer videos as they're really enjoyable, but realising it's been 2 months to get 41 minutes into the video this time just underlines how crazy things are right now lol. Anyways, got to go out yet again now (nearly 9.30pm here) maybe get to watch some more later on before bed... Appreciate all you share man, can't thank you enough.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 2 года назад +2

      Be careful switching supposedly compatable tubes. As I recall from my youth about 50 years ago I had a radio that needed some 6K6 tubes and I had a bunch of 6V6 and I could use them but I had to switch around a couple wires. Same type tube but wired different.
      Not positive on numbers but you know what I mean.
      I made it work whatever they were.

  • @charris939
    @charris939 3 года назад +14

    What an amazing old set! Will modern electronics perform that well in 80 years?

  • @ionmihaicalin6518
    @ionmihaicalin6518 3 года назад +4

    Love you. Because of you, i want to repair my radio. :) To be honest with you, i like the videos with TV. Radio? not so much :) (i hope you understand my english. or do you prefer to comment in romanian? :) )

  • @abcsd1254
    @abcsd1254 3 года назад +14

    So you know, I got a targeted HHS ad telling me about the Covid vaccine being safe and effective after the video was over which I found much more funny than I should have.

    • @herbertsusmann986
      @herbertsusmann986 3 года назад +3

      But the covid vaccine IS safe and effective. What mis information propaganda are you listening to?

    • @abcsd1254
      @abcsd1254 3 года назад +2

      @@herbertsusmann986 I am not making a statement about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine. I personally have had both doses of Pfizer. I just know that he mentioned in the video about RUclips taking down videos about vaccine misinformation and the first and only time I ever get a targeted ad about it was after his video.

  • @RozarSmacco
    @RozarSmacco 3 года назад +6

    Until Shango does a face reveal I’m going to just assume he looks like actor Michael J. Pollard cause he definitely sounds like him.

    • @jayzarth8077
      @jayzarth8077 2 года назад

      That's never going to happen. A quick Google search and knowledge of all things that shango does in life will net you some pictures of what he looks like. your welcome....

  • @brianfletcher9774
    @brianfletcher9774 3 года назад +32

    Being a post-war set, they probably had a lot of surplus components left over from military needs. Thus why they paralleled resistors. Additionally, it was cheaper than getting actual 500ohm resistors.

    • @chachavessel
      @chachavessel 3 года назад +3

      Interesting theory. Also, paralleling resistors add to better heat dissipation or better accuracy.
      I do that with certain designs. But that's just me.

  • @1marcelfilms
    @1marcelfilms 3 года назад +9

    Crosley. The name goes on, the quality goes nowhere
    *now

    • @eringatewood5062
      @eringatewood5062 3 года назад

      Dumont made that.

    • @dougbrowning82
      @dougbrowning82 3 года назад

      @@eringatewood5062 When Du Mont was Du Mont. They lost their shirts trying to create a third TV network in the 1950s and ended up being bought out by Emerson.

  • @vextenoch
    @vextenoch 3 года назад +12

    6V6 tube is equivalent to 6П6С (6P6S). 6L6 is the equivalent to the 6П3С (6P3S). All of those have the same pinout just the different power. With the one you put in, easily can burn the output transformer.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 года назад +3

      Correct. A 6L6 tube, especially a 6L6GC, is too strong for a 6V6 circuit. A 6V6 does work well in a 6K6 or 6J6 circuit, though. The plate voltage isn’t much different, but gain is higher.

    • @mianahmad5918
      @mianahmad5918 3 года назад

      @Veljko Batinic why the tubes are glowing blue at 1:36:00. I am curious about that. What is happening inside them?

    • @dougbrowning82
      @dougbrowning82 3 года назад

      @@mianahmad5918 The blue or purple glow means the tube is gassy. This condition will eventually reduce the tube's performance. If the plates glow red, it means the current is running to high, and the plate will eventually melt away.

    • @blitzroehre1807
      @blitzroehre1807 3 года назад +1

      @@dougbrowning82 Hang on a sec, that blue glow is on the inside wall of the glass envelope only. Those are electrons hitting the glass and making it fluoresce. Lots of power tubes do that and it is perfectly normal. A gassy tube will have the whole hollow space in the tube light up in a sort of pinkish violet color, that comes from the electrons hitting the air molecules inside.

    • @dougbrowning82
      @dougbrowning82 3 года назад

      @@blitzroehre1807 I never really thought much of it, but I was always told it was a bad sign.

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 3 года назад +4

    Owner is foolish to repurpose this set.

  • @chetpomeroy1399
    @chetpomeroy1399 3 года назад +10

    Many decades ago, I remember as a little kid watching "Kukla, Fran and Ollie" on a TV set in the family living room quite similar to this one!

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy 3 года назад +1

      Kukla, Fran and Ollie was the vintage of this set, first broadcast in 1947.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 3 года назад +9

    My assessment of the set is… “hell yeah, bring it on. I can’t wait to start ripping out paper-wax capacitors!” 🤣😆

  • @hotpuppy1
    @hotpuppy1 3 года назад +8

    Crosley used to make nice stuff. That big power transformer shows they spared no expense. I have a Magnavox of same vintage in a plastic case. It has NO power transformer with the filaments in series and the 8 inch picture bulb is not magnetic deflection.

  • @gregoryclemen1870
    @gregoryclemen1870 3 года назад +3

    I get a big kick out of you when you talk about the "JERRY SPRINGER" show he was mayor of the city of cincinnati ( ohio) at one time, and he cut a check for entertainment cost. what he was really doing was paying for "A LADY OF THE EVENING" and that person held that check up like a billboard. it wrecked his political career in cincinnati, and got a job at channel 5 T.V., as a commentator, and later went on to his own "garbage T.V. show". that guy is a steaming dog pile!!!!!. the "CROSLEY" plant is still standing on arlington street in cincinnati, and is being renovated!!!!! powel crosley jr. was into everything. he owned the cincinnati reds, made appliances, radios, t.v. sets, cars/ trucks, started up/ operated "WLW" radio ( started out at 5 watt out put, then 50 watts, then 500 watts, then 5k watts, then 50k watts, and topped out at 500k watts( conditional license that had to be renewed every 6 months, that transmitter was built by 3 contractors "general electric, R.C.A, and westinghouse), later bought out "WSAI" radio, and then got into aviation, that is where the "AVCO" name came from. I think "PHILCO" bought out "CROSLEY" and shut down the plant in cincinnati and moved all operations to philadephia PA.in the mid to late 60's, and the crosley name fell into obscurity. I knew a lot of people that worked in that plant, just like we had an R.C.A. tube plant in town, until the mid 70's when that closed up( the workers went out on strike, and management told the workers "if you go out on strike we will CLOSE THE PLANT").

  • @pibbanon1987
    @pibbanon1987 3 года назад +4

    4:35- That's the mud dauber nest, the most important part of any TV set

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 3 года назад +6

    Russia certainly does have a lot of older electronics. People saved stuff because it meant a lot when they finally got it. Unlike in the US where everything has been tossed, and worst of all tossed simply to "upgrade" due to social pressure and advertisements.... I've had people buy new laptops that are less powerful and lower feature than used ones i sold or gave them a year prior. That's my favorite to explain and demonstrate though...
    I recently moved more north, there's a lot of what city folk call "hoarding" up here, so i'm hoping to hit some garage sales and get the word out for vintage electronics.... It's the area where you still post for sale ads on the walls of the general stores :)

    • @gman3030300
      @gman3030300 3 года назад

      I can't see tossing old tech away. I still have a crt tv and still have an older Dell desktop. If it ain't broke don't toss it out

    • @pyeltd.5457
      @pyeltd.5457 3 года назад +1

      @@gman3030300 TVs and Radios can stay bur computers get old fast and the OS/software has a limit before they make it broken

    • @xsc1000
      @xsc1000 3 года назад +1

      @kevin barker But they produced tube B/W and colour TVs (with delta CRT) till the end of 80s. It was not about non-profit driven society, but about stupidity of planned economy - they had solid state sets too, but they were unable to produce them in large quantity. Ofc performance of the tube sets was worse than solid state in-line TV sets.

    • @gman3030300
      @gman3030300 3 года назад +1

      @@pyeltd.5457 There's Linux os that can make computer's last longer

  • @nicholaslemonakis5138
    @nicholaslemonakis5138 3 года назад +7

    Really appreciate your videos Shango!
    In a non related note LA oldies is on KKGO HD-2/ maybe they’ll be back on 1260 at some point.

  • @AndrewJackson-zs8pi
    @AndrewJackson-zs8pi 3 года назад +5

    I rebuilt the same model back in 2005 still works good I had crt rebuilt by Hawkeye before he closed down.

  • @Daniel_cheems
    @Daniel_cheems 3 года назад +7

    That TV must have cost a fortune back in 1948

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 года назад +1

      According to an old ad I have saved off the 9-407M was $445.00 in February 1949. The presumably otherwise identical 10 inch 9-403M was $319.95.

    • @janosnagyj.9540
      @janosnagyj.9540 3 года назад

      @@eDoc2020 That's like 5000$ today. I'm sure it was considered as a smaller fortune back than.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 года назад

      ​@kevin barker I've heard that 1947 was the year when TV really started to become a thing, that's when there was a TV station in most major cities. In terms of adoption TV in 1948 was probably similar to what UHD was like in 2015. It seems in 1947 there were around 45 thousand TVs in the US, increasing to around a million by the end of 1949.
      So by 1948 you could probably find a TV demonstration at your local radio shop or department store that everybody could admire, but only the wealthy would actually buy.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 3 года назад

      @@janosnagyj.9540 Keep in mind this was an expensive big-screen TV. The more pedestrian 7 inch sets all sold for under $200. Still expensive but something a regular family could save up for.

    • @brucegilbert7243
      @brucegilbert7243 3 года назад +1

      @@eDoc2020 Post WWII, only NBC and Dumont were broadcasting a sporadic schedule of programs. NBC some evenings and Dumont other evenings. Only cities on the east coast of the U.S., New York, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Baltimore, Boston and Schenectady had stations. In 1948, all four television networks, NBC, DuMont, CBS and ABC, put out a full schedule of evening programs.

  • @herbertsusmann986
    @herbertsusmann986 3 года назад +5

    That is basically a Dumont RA-103. Classic design, very robust. I have fully restored one. Just needed most caps replaced. R's probably fine.

  • @levimevis5192
    @levimevis5192 3 года назад +6

    I believe the tuner on this is a slug tuned set, like the old Zenith's from the same time period.
    I just recently restored a 1950 Meck Philharmonic model 8200 that the person I got it from found it in an old farmhouse that the roof had collapsed over 20 years ago, and all I did to get it going was replaced the capacitors and out of tolerance resistors and a 1B3 tube and the original solid walnut cabinet was still in good shape yet.

  • @soulrobotics
    @soulrobotics 3 года назад +5

    Shango is the "George Carlin" for the restoration world. laughing while you learn

  • @robertluzader4306
    @robertluzader4306 3 года назад +2

    We are all moving to the Ozark mountains of Arkansas please join us....Sell out buy a RV and MOVE, MOVE, MOVE. ;')

  • @davidjames666
    @davidjames666 3 года назад +5

    the person who designed this set was probably born in the 1800’s

  • @beamer.electronics
    @beamer.electronics 3 года назад +9

    Blimey, that was a challenge and worth every minute. Being able to bring back to life such a vintage set whilst keeping a hands-off approach is a serious measure of your abilities and award-winning :) All the best, Beamer.

  • @LakeNipissing
    @LakeNipissing 3 года назад +3

    "Sounds like we may have another Nissan in the neighborhood" LOL
    Incidentally, how long did that horn last ? It wasn't mentioned at the end of that video.

    • @shango066
      @shango066  3 года назад +1

      Sad to see that house you sent me abandoned.

    • @LakeNipissing
      @LakeNipissing 3 года назад

      @@shango066 There are many abandoned farm houses here. It was nice for once to see the stuff still inside wasn't smashed by vandals. Did you ever see a TV like that DuMont ?

  • @jgarner420
    @jgarner420 3 года назад +7

    Now my Saturday morning can begin.

  • @PF-bi9hi
    @PF-bi9hi 3 года назад +6

    Heathkit IT-5230 is similar to Beltron however Heathkit uses an isolated transformer winding which is probably safer.

  • @frazzleface753
    @frazzleface753 3 года назад +2

    It's a Crosley?? Now all the hipsters will want it and pay big bucks!

  • @drremulack6196
    @drremulack6196 2 года назад +2

    17:49 Your terminology is fantastic sir... I don't see any R Kelly going on in here

  • @capolaya
    @capolaya 3 года назад +5

    “Totally open, like Britney Spears” hahaha comedy gold there!

  • @WalterKnox
    @WalterKnox 3 года назад +5

    that is a pretty cool looking microwave oven.

  • @bluepen61
    @bluepen61 3 года назад +5

    This is one of your best videos, and highlights the tremendous find. The quality of this tv, and the marvelous engineering design of it circuitry is stunning as exampled by the picture and the FM audio quality. Wished that eye tube could have been replaced. I wonder where that glowed on the front panel, as we only saw it laying about the chassis. If I was a collector of vintage televisions, this would be a must have set for a collection and to restore. Too bad you had to give it back to your friend. :( Thank you for sharing this!!!

  • @dr.zarkhov9753
    @dr.zarkhov9753 3 года назад +8

    Watching you diagnose and resurrect this set was worth every single minute dude. Just awesome. Thanks.

  • @CatholicBoy1957
    @CatholicBoy1957 3 года назад +2

    8:10
    "you will be -----listed"
    Are we allowed to say -----listed?
    .

  • @obsoletebutneat
    @obsoletebutneat 3 года назад +3

    Movie-length Shango and a '40s CRT.

  • @dbridger620
    @dbridger620 3 года назад +5

    Excellent build quality of that chassis. It was amazing how good the horiz and vertical linearity was even with no adjusting. The emission quality of the 12KP4 was excellent too. Definitely a great restore candidate. Thumbs up on the video.

  • @Stefan-
    @Stefan- 3 года назад +4

    As someone that has been working professionally with electronic repairs for 30 years myself and being edjucated in repairing CRT TV´s (not tube but transitor sets) but never having worked with repairing TV but other things i am super impressived that it worked so well after so few repairs, even the linearity was great.

  • @shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858
    @shaunsiz.itsbetterbytube2858 3 года назад +2

    R Kelly didn't he have a hit with I wish I could fly (back) away .they will have a good old sing along at the prison Xmas dinner

  • @Stoney3K
    @Stoney3K 3 года назад +4

    It's a bit of a waste for such a beautiful unit to pull the chassis and slap in a cheap HDMI flat screen just for display and "energy efficiency and compatibility" purposes.

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 3 года назад +2

    And you will eat ze bugs.

  • @HD7100
    @HD7100 3 года назад +3

    Schematic= same as- Stromberg Carlson TV-12 and DuMont RA-103 Buzz 1151 restored this same set.

  • @darikdatta
    @darikdatta 3 года назад +6

    That fly breaking in two is the greatest moment of my weekend so far.

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets 3 года назад +4

    That’s mind blowing… 72 year old parts and it works. Wow!

  • @Celeron_D1917
    @Celeron_D1917 3 года назад +5

    Хороший телевизор,самое то на даче триколор смотреть) Автор молодец что чинит такие!

  • @dennistowne457
    @dennistowne457 3 года назад +4

    Makes you wonder what was the first tv show or radio they tuned into when this was new. How cool to see it come to life.

    • @seanobrien7169
      @seanobrien7169 3 года назад +4

      And just how many neighbors gathered in that living room to watch it.

  • @robertgaines-tulsa
    @robertgaines-tulsa 3 года назад +4

    When he went on a rant about RUclips's new stupid policy, I felt like I needed to fart, but none was ready for emission. Jordan U has a similar Made in USA fetish. He's more into appliances, and is a huge fan fetishist. Yes, I'm using the word fetish for comedic value. The videos are interesting. I found his channel by searching for Jordan Pier. The funny thing is that I watch Jordan U even more. As for the Made in USA thing, we did make world class stuff at one time, but I believe if we were making our own stuff today, it was be just as crappy as anything from China. We had a major business paradigm shift from quality to cardboard. The saving grace is that Made in USA is not stamped on the garbage.

    • @tonyp7779
      @tonyp7779 3 года назад

      the economy is global, so to compete on the world stage, the stuff made for the masses would be made as cheaply as possible. but there will always besmaller niche markets for better quality goods.

  • @waltschannel7465
    @waltschannel7465 3 года назад +3

    Neither the 12JP4 or 12JL4 CRT are in my 1947 RCA tube manual, but there's a 7JP4 CRT listed that is electrostatic deflection. What a difference a year made. Really nice score. You are right, too that you have to be diligent if you want to find vintage electronics. I see them often enough on craigslust, and I'm not in CA or Chicagoland.

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 3 года назад +3

    25:13 Conductance is the inverse of resistance.
    It's measured in Siemens (or mhos).
    If you were thinking of purely capacitive (reactive) "conductance", the correct term would be susceptance. A combination of resistive and reactive is termed admittance.

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos 3 года назад +4

    Looks like the speaker connector is designed for a field coil speaker. It may of had the speaker replaced at sometime with a permanent magnet speaker. Either that or both were options.

    • @mianahmad5918
      @mianahmad5918 3 года назад

      @Brendan White why the tubes are glowing blue at 1:36:00. I am curious about that. What is happening inside those?

    • @EsotericArctos
      @EsotericArctos 3 года назад

      @@mianahmad5918 Not sure. Probably to do with the type of gas that is inside it. Some regulators do that, or it may be a tube that is slightly gassy.
      @Shango066, the poster of this video, could probably answer you better as he knows exactly where that tube is in the circuit :)

    • @mianahmad5918
      @mianahmad5918 3 года назад

      @Brendan White thank you for your response.

  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit 3 года назад +1

    Now the Why-Tzupremmezists decided to not be okay with "CRT" we can always start calling it an Electron Beam Tube or something. Oh wait, that would make the snofe lakes think you're repairing food stamps. Hmm difficult problem. 😁

  • @PirxthePilot
    @PirxthePilot 9 месяцев назад +1

    What was exactly the TV broadcast like in 1948 ?- I keep looking around but nothing much comes up.

  • @TheGuitologist
    @TheGuitologist 3 года назад +23

    Right on about Russia looking better and better all the time.

    • @hmbpnz
      @hmbpnz 3 года назад +12

      Amazing how the anti-commies suddenly become Russophiles. What an amazing feat of information warfare. It has completely swept up the vulnerable and the otherwise mentally ill folks.

    • @TheGuitologist
      @TheGuitologist 3 года назад +21

      Is it information warfare? Or is it just the fact we’ve lost our most basic rights and this is no longer the country most of us grew up in? When Edward Snowden has to seek asylum in Russia from an American state trying to throw him in prison for exposing a program to illegally spy on every American citizen, kinda speaks for itself. No infowar necessary.

    • @waltschannel7465
      @waltschannel7465 3 года назад +9

      Right! When Vladimir Putin says we shouldn't mandate vaccines, who's the REAL totalitarian???

    • @shango066
      @shango066  3 года назад +19

      I think I need reference footnotes in these videos. Doesn't appear anyone has picked up on, you will own nothing and you will be happy..yet

    • @JerryAtrick83
      @JerryAtrick83 3 года назад +5

      @@shango066 If they aren't awake by now they won't ever be.

  • @kirks1959
    @kirks1959 2 года назад +1

    Dr. Felchi hahahahaha...As Tom says its a RA-103. Top of the line great performer. I have one that runs and a parts set if you need anything....

  • @puncturetip
    @puncturetip 2 года назад +2

    I don’t know electronics, but I sold Beltron as well as Sencore and B&K. Our favorite and the favorite among guys buying and selling TVs was the Beltron. The Beltron guy used to tell me that they restored on grid 2 rather than grid 1, which the competition had to do because of their patent. He said it was critical to use the correct restoring lights and it seemed like the number was 10S250, IIRC. Your old one has the preferred meters compared to the new one you got which were not as dependable. I also like your color coded meters. A lot more of them had black meters, but otherwise the same as your colored ones. 8080A was the last model number and an improvement over the prior model 2972 (no idea why the weird numbers). Many 2972s were updated to 8080A. The guy that did repairs and updating was in his 80s and lived in South San Francisco.

  • @Ronnie01964
    @Ronnie01964 2 года назад +1

    "I'm talking about totally open, like Britney Spears open."......Man, you're really funny.

  • @urbexandbrokenthings4806
    @urbexandbrokenthings4806 2 года назад +3

    what if a 1940's TV is exposed to modern programming? Would it become self aware and end its own life?

  • @WC0125
    @WC0125 3 года назад +3

    Great video - Real old Crosley quality construction. As for the Beltron, I wonder why you have such a love/hate relationship? Sure, they are simple and seem voodooistic but they work for the most part. The "restore" function, eh, maybe not so perfect but the cleaning function has revived MANY old bulbs to good, enjoyable condition. New, long life after, maybe not but here is an example. I have a 10PB4 "cleaned" and even "rejuvinated" way in 1984 by a local dealer for a '49 Zenith porthole I was restoring. It still has great brightness and contrast today and has been used many hours over the past 37 years without needing another zap with the Beltron. I drank the Beltron KoolAid and a few years later picked up one for myself. Now, like you, have multiple version of it and even some Sencore rigs. Thanks again for your videos!

  • @bigliftm
    @bigliftm 3 года назад +2

    Wondering what the cost was of this set in 1948. Guess you had to be pretty rich to be able to afford this set.

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert 2 года назад +1

    To avoid confusion with "Critical Race Theory" I just call them "Cathode Ray Tubes".

  • @jerryspann8713
    @jerryspann8713 3 года назад +2

    RUclips changed their Terms of Service again!!!@

  • @fredfabris7187
    @fredfabris7187 3 года назад +2

    “I just wanna listen to NPR dammit!” Sentence never said by anyone

  • @thornmountain8129
    @thornmountain8129 3 года назад +2

    That 4:37 would be a nest created by a mud dauber wasp.

  • @plateshutoverlock
    @plateshutoverlock 3 года назад +2

    It's strange seeing laptops and other modern gadgets shown on a set that was sold when computers were vacuum tube based giants that filled warehouse type rooms and were little more than programmable calculators.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 3 года назад +12

    You've got it to a point now where it should be a pretty easy resto for the next person. It's a shame they're going to put a color tv chassis in there, but that's California---always style over substance

    • @LakeNipissing
      @LakeNipissing 3 года назад

      But at least they want to preserve the original chassis, so it can be swapped back in to original. Smart person not to toss the original WORKING chassis, especially since it is in working order, including the picture bulb.

  • @jeffreyhickman3871
    @jeffreyhickman3871 3 года назад +2

    Great 👍 living room centerpiece. I hope 🤞 this TV 📺 can be spared for somebody’s living room, restored or not. I actually like 👍 this TV 📺 just the way it is. Your friend, Jeff.

  • @drremulack6196
    @drremulack6196 2 года назад +1

    18:56 Not many take pride in their work anymore good sir... This is the sad state of the world today I guess.

  • @kpc5
    @kpc5 3 года назад +1

    Keep Making Videos please??

  • @jsciarri
    @jsciarri 3 года назад +17

    That's an interesting TV set for sure. It's new enough to have the revised FM radio band, but old enough to still feature TV channel 1. This is something that should be restored and displayed in a museum considering the rarity and the fact that it still works as is with almost all original components.

  • @HamboneDeluxe
    @HamboneDeluxe 3 года назад +3

    Nicely done sir. Been watching you a lot, hopefully I'll eventually learn something and be able to get my 1947 RCA Victor cabinet working again.

  • @Fredy5100
    @Fredy5100 3 года назад +4

    Great video, enjoyed every second of it. I don't think I will ever have the privilege of working on a set this old, but watching your content allows me to experience what it would be like... thank you for taking the time in making these videos. :)

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 2 года назад +1

      Used to have a few oldie moldies, wish I had just one of them now. 20 years ago I had a Sparton with mirror in the lid and the picture tube ( keep it politically correct ) would light up. If I had it today I bet with help from the internet I could have made it run.
      All I have now is an old tube amplifier and my Philco 1934 model B that I had when I was 5 years old and I am afraid to run either one anymore till I do capacitor change. They're all original.

  • @MrPhantomFury
    @MrPhantomFury 3 года назад +2

    Hmm... So Bob Andersen is what “ bandersen “ stands for ! Cool 😝😝

  • @eddiejones.redvees
    @eddiejones.redvees 2 года назад +2

    Interesting to see the bulb was made in Cleveland Ohio I took my family to visit my uncle back in 1996 he had its own engineering work shop there he emgtreted in 50s to the USA we could get over how big the country was he flew use down to Florida to spend a week going touring the theme parks. He came home to Liverpool to visit my grandmother in the 60s and bought her the first TV set in the street every one came round to look at it

  • @LanceHall
    @LanceHall 3 года назад +2

    Shangoday is the best day of the week.

  • @dorothydale4683
    @dorothydale4683 3 года назад +10

    i'm 71 years old. i love the way that chassis looks and really admire your assessment of the schematic. i really think you are a master at dissecting these devices. love the video. are you sure you are not adam corolla?

  • @sloboat55
    @sloboat55 2 года назад +1

    The Circle of Crap is clipping. Let's go Brandon.

  • @wdavem
    @wdavem 3 года назад +2

    I've just been gentrified out of existence, the future is looking better here actually, even if I die soon. couldn't have gotten much worse over the last few years. Horrible people with money. Any talk of them here? I want to LIIVVE! LOL

    • @Joetechlincolns
      @Joetechlincolns 3 года назад

      Come to Tampa, two 100 plus year old trees that shaded the East side of my house, gone, now a four lot property has two empty lots for a year now and no shade. Can't wait for the one lot town homes at $350k plus to be built! My property taxes are already to damn high. Progress, I guess I'm in the way.

  • @tedcowart3647
    @tedcowart3647 3 года назад +4

    Wow! What a great set! Well deserving a restoration and putting back into service. I'd love to find one. A TV with a magic eye tuning tube. A first for me. Thanks for the great video!

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 2 года назад

      I think an old Dumont that I had for a short time had a tuning eye.
      Had lot of old radios with tuning eye tubes.

  • @Odessia-ij5ys
    @Odessia-ij5ys 3 года назад +3

    Just Amazing getting something out of this

  • @roybal1975
    @roybal1975 2 года назад +1

    I bet you would think twice about going to Russia now huh???

  • @Radiowild
    @Radiowild 3 года назад +3

    Amazing it's running so well! Must be a low hour set.