I love the long form. I imagine it’s logistically challenging, but I would love to see the two of you patch on a SS-together. Or apart. Long form patch videos-no principle, no lesson, just a periodic patching check in. Thank you for all you do.
That is kinda like the "Office Hours" that we used to do in quarantine! We keep meaning to bring something like it back, but we don't have as much extra time to fill these days. Definitely we will try!!
Tony is so thoughtful and such a great describer of sound. His reflections of Walkers album were really awesome to listen to. I’m down to listen to more reflections of albums from Tony.
Some conversation had to be cut for time, in which Tony discussed the importance of the listening environment and taking time to devote attention to listening. He is indeed a great music listener!
I am much like Walker analyzing the sounds/gestures/controls of a patch when I hear it (even my own). I love the sound of pulling the plug on a clock going into Echophon and letting it sputter out of control (but sometimes I listen to my first recordings and think "oh that trick again...")
Love the Richter Wiard euro system in the back! I built a 6U using almost exclusively Make Noise and Richter modules together and they complement each other beautifully!
I really enjoy this conversation! With regards to always sounding like yourself, over time you develop tastes and prefrences that lead you to make somewhat related choices in sounds and texture so no matter what instrument you use... it sounds like your decisions. I think that its really cool that even with electronic music and modular synthesizers people can still develop their own individual voice.
I have watched this video about three times now and it kept me wondering why there's no 'difference' sonically between a 2012 and B&G patch. A few days later I think I figured out why that is. I always say that your main VCO dominates the case and you can't make a DPO sound like 'not a DPO'. A lot has changed since 2012, but both systems have DPO as the main VCO and both original designs are mono. The substantial difference is in the utilities but it doesn't make the DPO sound any different, not even layered with Morphagene or Erbe-Verbed. However, the XPO marked a huge change in sound, as well as the stereo modules. So I guess there's a logical reason why the unexpected listener doesn't hear a difference. I am 100% convinced the XPO/STO demo Shared System will lead to totally new sonic territory when you compare it with the B&G.
Both albums are phenomenal, and I find it fascinating how much more can be done in parallel on the black and gold vs the original shared system. Shows how much the system has evolved over the years. In “The chance to jump off” halfway through the track there is a super gritty noise source used for a snare. The shared system doesn’t have a typical “noise source” so I was wondering how that sound was created?
Tony writes: "That sound was made by pinging the Erbe Verb with a gate from either René or TEMPI (can't recall where the gate came from exactly). I didn't use the Erbe Verb for traditional reverb on that track, only for sound FX. T"
Would love to hear more specifics about the patches on these tracks. Have been listening to both on repeat all week and its inspired me to learn a bunch more about my system. My 2 year old says Walker's music is about a bus engine :D
"Direct Connection" (in black) was in the store a couple years back. It may still be available at a dealer somewhere? We typically don't reprint shirts aside from the black logo tees.
Will have to see if I can recreate it from sound and memory! Pretty sure the kick is DPO final (see the “STO kick drum” video Tony made for the basic concept) and the other “drums” are modulated Erbe-Verb. -W
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC No safety net. Similar to how most Blue Note sessions were recorded. No overdubs, all the dynamics were from each artists’ performance, just live to tape, etc.
Thanks for the video. Entertaining and informative as always. I’m thinking of a variation on the B/G SS+, wanting to incorporate the QPAS. The Morphagene is a must. René is a must. But thoughts on what you’d remove? Perhaps lose Pressure Points? Not sure… Thoughts?
I am curious to know if Tony uses a high end tape machine for mastering his cassettes he sells or can this be done on any reasonably decent tape machine like a separate hifi deck or a 40 year old Tape to tape Ferguson stereomaster hifi like I have ?
Walker - this was a fantastic and conversation and I really appreciated the links. I happened to have had Tony's tape delivered just before this video dropped. Wish yours was on cassette too - but that's the tapehead talking. Is there any chance you would do a patch technique video that breaks down some of the concepts in your tracks - or Tony's? At 17:14 you're both talking about Morphogene magic - would bee curious to see how that's done - likewise with your Morphagene technique you guys hit on at 28:20 - just beautiful sounds... Thank you for all the work on these videos.
Thanks for watching (and listening)!! I'll see what I can do about patch walkthroughs. You can see the patch for "Spiraling Upwards I" in the "Original Shared System" video from a couple months back: ruclips.net/video/DEU7EUml4L8/видео.html
that's funny. i just recently showed a new track of mine, that i think of as radical departure from anything i've done before (trying out numerous new synthesis techniques, now 95% modular instead of 100% software and using scales derived from indian classical music instead of your typical western scales) to a friend and the response was "after the first second i immediately knew it was a new track from you. you have a very distinctive style". on one hand it's reassuring, but on the other it's mildly infuriating that what feels like a radical departure always seems to end up as a small evolutionary step.
I like how the track names for Walker's album came from this conversation!
This is great , more conversation content if possible! Love hearing about Tony’s processes and ideas that led to these fantastic modules
Will definitely have more of Tony, stay tuned!!
I love the long form. I imagine it’s logistically challenging, but I would love to see the two of you patch on a SS-together. Or apart. Long form patch videos-no principle, no lesson, just a periodic patching check in. Thank you for all you do.
That is kinda like the "Office Hours" that we used to do in quarantine! We keep meaning to bring something like it back, but we don't have as much extra time to fill these days. Definitely we will try!!
Tony is so thoughtful and such a great describer of sound. His reflections of Walkers album were really awesome to listen to. I’m down to listen to more reflections of albums from Tony.
Some conversation had to be cut for time, in which Tony discussed the importance of the listening environment and taking time to devote attention to listening. He is indeed a great music listener!
I wonder if we'll get the 2nd part of Tony's Tape Talk as a Christmas/New Year treat?
Yes PLEASE !!!
I am much like Walker analyzing the sounds/gestures/controls of a patch when I hear it (even my own). I love the sound of pulling the plug on a clock going into Echophon and letting it sputter out of control (but sometimes I listen to my first recordings and think "oh that trick again...")
That train track is my favourite of his tracks!
Love the Richter Wiard euro system in the back! I built a 6U using almost exclusively Make Noise and Richter modules together and they complement each other beautifully!
Sounds like a fun time!!
Appreciate this video. I love how you edited the music to sync with the narrative description!
OG shared system is like VHS tape, B&G shared system is like blu-ray :D
Very interesting discussion guys, thank you. Lots to think about!
Walker, I’d love to see what your personal system modeled on the SS entails!
It has gone through some changes recently, I'll have to see if I can get a good photo. -W
I really enjoy this conversation!
With regards to always sounding like yourself, over time you develop tastes and prefrences that lead you to make somewhat related choices in sounds and texture so no matter what instrument you use... it sounds like your decisions. I think that its really cool that even with electronic music and modular synthesizers people can still develop their own individual voice.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment - I agree completely! - W
Really looking forward to this!
Epic giftie from the new year dieties
Loved this.
1:58 Oh shit! Black Box Theory... "Ceteris Paribus" Alumnus
from way back when! Glad to see you doing well man!
Great chat thanks for this. 2023 the year of the Stereo Shared System? A man can dream...
Fantastic tracks & great discussion!
Thanks for watching!!
I have watched this video about three times now and it kept me wondering why there's no 'difference' sonically between a 2012 and B&G patch. A few days later I think I figured out why that is. I always say that your main VCO dominates the case and you can't make a DPO sound like 'not a DPO'. A lot has changed since 2012, but both systems have DPO as the main VCO and both original designs are mono. The substantial difference is in the utilities but it doesn't make the DPO sound any different, not even layered with Morphagene or Erbe-Verbed. However, the XPO marked a huge change in sound, as well as the stereo modules. So I guess there's a logical reason why the unexpected listener doesn't hear a difference. I am 100% convinced the XPO/STO demo Shared System will lead to totally new sonic territory when you compare it with the B&G.
Honestly, on that still picture you are starting to look like each other :).
Laughing in sunglasses'll do that :P
Both albums are phenomenal, and I find it fascinating how much more can be done in parallel on the black and gold vs the original shared system. Shows how much the system has evolved over the years. In “The chance to jump off” halfway through the track there is a super gritty noise source used for a snare. The shared system doesn’t have a typical “noise source” so I was wondering how that sound was created?
Tony writes: "That sound was made by pinging the Erbe Verb with a gate from either René or TEMPI (can't recall where the gate came from exactly). I didn't use the Erbe Verb for traditional reverb on that track, only for sound FX. T"
Would love to hear more specifics about the patches on these tracks. Have been listening to both on repeat all week and its inspired me to learn a bunch more about my system. My 2 year old says Walker's music is about a bus engine :D
Love that!! 🚌
Why was there zero skating in this video? Look at it back there? WTF!?
Tony’s shirt is badass, hopefully in the MN store some day?
"Direct Connection" (in black) was in the store a couple years back. It may still be available at a dealer somewhere? We typically don't reprint shirts aside from the black logo tees.
Would love a video on a patch breakdown for Boa Constrictor. Those drum sounds are great.
Will have to see if I can recreate it from sound and memory! Pretty sure the kick is DPO final (see the “STO kick drum” video Tony made for the basic concept) and the other “drums” are modulated Erbe-Verb. -W
Thanks for the reply Walker. Just one other question. Did you record the whole thing in one take or each track separately into a daw?
These recordings were all single-take, mixed in the system
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC No safety net. Similar to how most Blue Note sessions were recorded. No overdubs, all the dynamics were from each artists’ performance, just live to tape, etc.
Thanks for the video. Entertaining and informative as always.
I’m thinking of a variation on the B/G SS+, wanting to incorporate the QPAS. The Morphagene is a must. René is a must. But thoughts on what you’d remove? Perhaps lose Pressure Points? Not sure…
Thoughts?
That’s really tough, I would personally hang on to everything and try different configs out before totally committing
@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC what was the idea behind leaving out a filter?
I am curious to know if Tony uses a high end tape machine for mastering his cassettes he sells or can this be done on any reasonably decent tape machine like a separate hifi deck or a 40 year old Tape to tape Ferguson stereomaster hifi like I have ?
Joshua Eustis did this cassette master
Walker - this was a fantastic and conversation and I really appreciated the links. I happened to have had Tony's tape delivered just before this video dropped. Wish yours was on cassette too - but that's the tapehead talking. Is there any chance you would do a patch technique video that breaks down some of the concepts in your tracks - or Tony's? At 17:14 you're both talking about Morphogene magic - would bee curious to see how that's done - likewise with your Morphagene technique you guys hit on at 28:20 - just beautiful sounds... Thank you for all the work on these videos.
Thanks for watching (and listening)!! I'll see what I can do about patch walkthroughs. You can see the patch for "Spiraling Upwards I" in the "Original Shared System" video from a couple months back: ruclips.net/video/DEU7EUml4L8/видео.html
that's funny. i just recently showed a new track of mine, that i think of as radical departure from anything i've done before (trying out numerous new synthesis techniques, now 95% modular instead of 100% software and using scales derived from indian classical music instead of your typical western scales) to a friend and the response was "after the first second i immediately knew it was a new track from you. you have a very distinctive style". on one hand it's reassuring, but on the other it's mildly infuriating that what feels like a radical departure always seems to end up as a small evolutionary step.
I know the feeling!! 🙃
Where is that bowl? Is that someone's backyard or public?
He referenced a party in "this back yard".