Only Use Inheritance If You Want Both of These
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Inheritance gives us hierarchical reuse of code AND subtype polymorphism. In this video I argue that we should only ever use it if we want BOTH.
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00:00 Intro
00:21 Only Hierarchical Reuse
03:16 Only Subtype Polymorphism
05:37 Avoid Inheritance?
07:13 Couple To Abstractions
07:32 Example
08:36 Conclusion
as a senior developer , it is very good explanation.
Now I finally understand why Golang team provides composition and Interfaces and they refuses to add Inheritance to the language
I really love your videos! Not many people can explain it clearly and understandably. I like that even now, when I've got a PhD in computer science and don't write code on a regular basis. Greetings from the former Soviet union!
Great simple explanation of something I've seen done wrong hundreds of times.
I had written some huge piece of code following inheritance. This video just made me realise how I would rewrite that code today if given a chance to do it. If 2 classes have to implement a method, i.e. be like something, it should do it through interfaces, and if they have to share some logic, they should do it through composition. Also, welcome back!
Exactly this. Thank you for sharing! 😊🙏
first time i've clearly understood when to use interfaces and object composition over inheritance. love your videos
Kind of realized this while struggling on some code recently, but wasn't sure. Love how you captured the points well. Subscribed!
Best instructor ever. Chris is the best.
We love your videos so much please never stop teaching ❤
Love your videos, as always very informative.
Great video as always! I really like your way of explaining these concepts. Not just in this video but in all I have seen from you so far. I feel your explanations are concise and to the point, without leaving room for ambiguity, which I really appreciate.
Thank you very much for the feedback. Appreciated. 🙏😊
Damn, this video is SO GOOD!! Your recent videos are one of the best contenet about programming!
Thank you 🙏😊 I’m very happy to hear that the content is useful. Please feel free to share with others who you think might benefit from it. 😊
I sure will!
You are an unreasonably effective teacher! Keep up the great work!
Nicely explained. Christopher, can you also share the downsides of going with inheritance incorrectly? This would help understand the implications of picking a wrong choice. Alternatively, what does one gain from going with object composition? If you've shared this in any other video, please point me to it. Thank you!
I'd watch a vid about that too!
I couldn't be happier with your videos. Thanks for your time and effort.
All my support for you man!❤
Wow so clear explanation!! ❤
Great video man I think inheritance, composition, and interfaces are something that is taught everywhere but rarely do they teach you when and how to use it properly
Awesome explanation!
Fantastic explanation
Another great one. Thanks!
Glad you're back! Composition over inheritance is something you usally learn the hard way :P
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@@ChristopherOkhravi, I really like !
But, can you give an example in which it is reasonable to use inheritance ? Because, in the last part of this video, just combined subtypes polymorphism and object composition !
Kindly ! 😊
Yep and yep! Great video! Love this! #LoveThis
First of all glad you’re back on the youtube stage 🎉
Second - how/where/when would you instantiate the list class for backpack and warehouse to use.
Because backpack and warehouse are composed of things including the list class we should not be triggered/scared etc. that we’re tight coupling them?
Would it also make sense to use composition with an interface rather than a concrete object.
Not sure the list concept would ever change but the list could be a paper sheet and then turn out into Notes app on a tablet device 😊
Love your explanations
While watching, I thought to ask your perspective/thoughts about POP (Protocol Oriented Programming), but then you made a good lesson about it out of this talk.
Thanks, very well explained.
As Always, high quality content
due to your design pattern course i am able to grab all logics eaisly, thank you🙂
Love your videos, mate! :)
Tack så mycket.
Great work❤
1. Can you provide please the functional programming equivalent to every OOP principle/strategy you demonstrated so far since beginning to upload again on youtube?
2. What are your thoughts on languages like Eiffel that took the care to implement multiple inheritance "properly"?
Should we do object composition by putting an object through the constructor?
Will in this case this be an example of dependency injection?
Yes and yes 😊 The more nuanced answer is ofc that it depends. But if you use that as a general rule of thumb then it is a good rule of thumb 😊😊 Thank you for asking. 🙏
Anither great explanation ❤
Thank you sir, amazing! 😊
I laughed when you whispered object composition, I just loved it haha.
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I had been subclassing for a whilewithout deep thinking and reason. after studying design pattern, I can compose or confirm interface with makesense.
thank you
thanks for sharing
Love your vids❤
Thank you!
This man!
I still find it difficult to actually use it. But practise makes perfect I think. Thank you for another super explanation.
5:37 Now in Java, you can also use Interfaces with default methods to get the best of both worlds. Like the Mandalorian would say: "This is the way!"
100% agree. Imho there is 0 reason left to use inheritance now that we have default interface methods. Was actually thinking about doing a video on precisely this but haven’t figured out how to make it relevant for non C# programmers. Thanks for commenting! 😊🙏
@@ChristopherOkhravi That's the beauty of this modeling. UML being language agnostic leaves the implementation detail up to the developers. It is their job to interpret the blueprint and build the code the best way the language used to implement allows you to. Years ago, you had to do it the way you show here (with the extra class) in Java because default interface methods were not possible. Today, it's a different thing. Now, we can take "creative license" liberty to deviate a bit from the model and implement it using just interfaces.
interface default methods were introduced in java a long time ago, since version 8 if i remember correctly
@@mczn9499 you'll be surprised how many people are still coding with older versions of Java.
Awesome explanation! But then if I understood correctly, you could achieve more or less the same using inheritance (given that you want both hierarchical reuse and subtyping) and using interface + composition. I also hear that you would favor the second approach, but then is there a specific case where you would choose inheritance (instead of interface + composition)?
At 4:32, to make a case for hierarchical reuse of code, methods in sub classes need not always call the method/s in super class. Template design pattern is a classic example of hierarchical code re-use that uses inheritance effectively. What do you think?
I completely agree. I have 5+ mins of deleted scenes from this video (because I think my execution was too poor) that I will release on my Patreon. In that clip I talked about Template Method Pattern (among other things) so I personally think you are spot on 😊🙏 Template Method for a a valid use case for inheritance. It could certainly still be argued that composition plus subtyping is a better solution but there’s nothing inherently problematic with Tenplate Method imho 😊😊 Thanks for the comment.
It is true, appreciated, Christopher. I think you have experienced in game development, right? please make some videos about component based architecture and different software architectures like onion architecture, etc.
What are your thoughts about this scenario: In Java, interfaces can have default methods with implementation. Recently I refactored a library of classes representing specific types of web elements (for Selenium tests), and all those web elements have a base class with methods that are common to all the web elements and some of the web elements may override the implementation and others may use the default implementation. I saw that some web elements could be disabled and others cannot, so I extracted the IsDisabled() method into a default method of a new interface and had the web elements that can be disabled implement that interface, rather than copy & paste the same function in multiple classes.
Would you consider that good or bad?
So instead of using Traits as a code reuse for Subtypes (with an interface), you want to inject the implementation of another class instance, essentially the same implementation the Trait would describe, guess it streamlines the dependency overview.
Can someone please explain what is 'hierarchical reuse of code'? What does it mean? I can't understand the first example at all...
is object composition basically dependency injection? Instead of inheritance you’d just Inject a class instance into your other class and use its methods
Typescript have subtype polymorphism without inheritance, so only composition matter?
what about inheritance for data classes?
It's all well and good in theory, yes. But not every language/framework implements features considering the correct patterns which forces you to fallback to what you know to work.
For example, in spring data jpa, audit annotations by hibernate, doesn't work inside embeddable which in turn makes it impossible to do an "audit" object composition in a jpa entity and you need to fallback to inheritance to reuse auditing entities, unless you go for custom implementation yourself, which, again, may not be practical (a relatively simple example).
Or another: Java, C# doesn't support multiple inheritance because of the diamond problem which should never have been decided by the language (C++ implemented it, no problem).
nice video... i have a question, is this topic related to liskov substitution in any way
You’re awesome ❤ awesome 👏
One reason I might consider using inheritance is if the constructors are not accessible. For example, you need to extend the Activity class in Android.
cool, I dig my code while watching
Ok let's say we have this situation: I have a bunch of classes that share the exact same 3 methods. I need hierarchical reuse of code. I can either create a base class, and inherit from it, or create another class, then compose it and still duplicate the methods and delegate the calls? Sounds redundant.
Or, I could have this new class (with the 3 methods) as a field of each of my initial classes, and when I'd want to access the method, I would access it through this field (violating the law of Demeter)? It sounds kind of confusing.
I'd still go with inheritance here.
Till now my view was, if you couldn't inherit from a class (because it sealed in C# for example) then use composition.
I mean, composition was a workaround solution, not a "primary idea" in "factorisation" of code.
But I still think taht if i need a spécial DIctionary, I implement a new class that inherit Dictionary...
@ChristopherOkhravi Not really off topic for those of us who listen to music while programming, who is your favorite Melodic Death Metal Band?
Such a random question 😊😊 In my younger days there was a time when I listened to Soilwork 😊 But I’m not really a metal person 😊😊
great
Then, when do we need to do actual inheritance?
Smashing explanation! Where is the furry one though 😺?
thanks, very insightful
however, in C++ using an interface is actually inheriting it - I mean that the title might be confusing. But of course, the fact of interfaces having or not a base method is something that occurs often and it's a very good criterium
Ah. Good point. 🤔 Sometimes I get too stuck in C# which is what I do most of my thinking in. Thank you! 🙏😊
Wouldn't a header file play the role of interface in C++?
@@ChikitoPOWAin C++, the (java) interfaces are the so-called pure abstract classes, that is, classes with 0 methods implemented (except the default destructor)
these pure-abstract classes are then inherited with either a base (shared) class, or directly implemented by several children classes
@@ChristopherOkhraviooh C#, I see, now I understand why you said so haha 😄
(I write C++ for a living)
back to your question, C++ classes (whether they are or not pure-abstract or not) are declared in the header files, and implemented in the .cpp file. I mean, not all header files describe interfaces (pure abstract classes). So it depends on whether the methods are implemented or not.
Warning: some people implement some of the C++ methods directly in the header files. This is something I do not like at all and I never do. However, it is of course valid C++.
Nice vid but is best to watch it at 1.75x ... better for the ears ;)
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Even if you have the perfect storm of needing both, as soon as that changes, you're still holding the inheritance baggage.
I would agree 😊 But I can see how some would prefer the inheritance solution in some cases and so as long as it is a sensible use of inheritance o would not argue too much. Better to prioritize moving forward is what I’m thinking 😊 Thank you for commenting 🙏😊
As opposed to? If you went the composition route, then you end up...
1. injecting behaviours into the superclass - these behaviours tend to know quite a lot about the class their being injected into.
2. they also tend to be quite limited and limiting in scope - what happens if you need multiple behaviours in a single compositional inheritance? How do you coordinate these? They get messy, quickly.
Inheritance, with virtual/overridable methods give you the flexibility and the readability that compositional inheritance does not - though you do need to think about when to use traditional inheritance this closely.
@@jimiscott It not a theory, this is a well understood topic.
Composition gives you better control over your coupling. It can be slightly more effort but ime the gains of inheritance are fragile at best and a disaster at worst.
@@adambickford8720 Whilst I agree that inheritance used wrongly can lead to complications, it should not be thrown out with the baby's bathwater. In our large (1M Lines) middleware/integration platform we have used inheritance to great affect to allow both ourselves and our partners to allow us/them to write add-ins to interface/integrate with different APIs/solutions.
An example of this is that we allow our writer classes to be inherited and their methods overridden. These objects take a dynamic model and translate a dataset to a specific format (JSON, CSV, Xml, CSV, etc) - we have writer classes for each type of format. Each addin can (this is not always the case) inherit a writer class to implement it's own custom logic for a specific requirement. For example, an addin may need to encode some data into a specific base64 form when trying to send/upload/post images OR it may need to perform a series of API requests to translate a value/set of values to something specific to solution/service/API being integrated. Inheritance gives us the ability to override the specific method(s) to do this - furthermore we can maintain state much more easily than say if we used composition.
Inheritance has given us the ability to rapidly develop these addins, they are succinct, can be easily tested and are maintainable.
"Inheritence over composition" makes as much sense as "frying pan over sauce pan". They solve different problems and should be used differently.
You even say it yourself at one point: "is a" vs "has a".
O my, just made this error last week... stupid me
stupid you from last week is dead, long live smarter you of the future :)
Extremely controversial statements which violate SRP, and decline using of protected/private/abstract methods.
Thank you for supplying an alternative perspective. Would you care to elaborate why you think this is controversial? My argument is not that you should do “two things” in a sense that it would violate SRP. The point is: Both hierarchical reuse of code and subtype polymorphism could be used for the same “feature” or “thing”, and inheritance is only a suitable solution if you need both of those to succinctly implement your one feature or thing. Otherwise inheritance is a worse solution than the alternative (which would be either composition or subtype polymorphism through interfaces). Please do feel free elaborate 😊 Thank you again 😊🙏
One exception I can think of right now : sometimes I use inheritance to enforce identicalness across things, for exemple :
Imagine a web application where every UI elements are defined with components called "blocks" (dozensss of them), it might make sense to inherit all different blocks from a parent class ("AbstractBlock" for exemple) even if blocks doesn't overwrite methods from the parent class, simply because when the day comes where you need to implement a feature inside ALL blocks, I would rather edit a single file than edit dozens of them ! (and maybe miss some blocks created in an un-merged branch). Or someone might not know that when you create a new block you need to implement X, Y and Z features. It's a lot less prone to human errors when the only thing to remember is "you need to extend from this class and that's it".
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"just the fact that we want to reuse code, does not justify the use of inheritance"
Nonsense. The sole purpose of inheritance is code reuse (reuse of procedures/methods), similar to how procedures serve the purpose of reusing sequences of operations. However, inheritance operates at a higher level. The connection between inheritance and polymorphism is coincidental. Initially, inheritance was the sole method for implementing polymorphism. Subsequently, polymorphism acquired its own implementation mechanism known as interfaces.
You've not provided much context, so I'll assert my own: In languages like C# and Java, inheritance does more than just facilitate code reuse. The polymorphism manifesting from inheritance is not coincidental but an intended feature of these languages. As such, having a class inherit from another carries semantic meaning: it implies an is-a relationship; it implies substitutability. When you subclass a class, you make an implied promise to follow its contract. If you never cared about the contract and only about the code, it's easy to (knowingly or not) break the contract, which can lead to all sorts of hard to find bugs in other parts of the system.
Composition is a more basic functionality that doesn't require inheritance yet still enables code reuse. It doesn't carry any unintended semantic meaning and encapsulates the implementation detail of code sharing (fully or partly, depending on whether you inject the component), making the class more robust (you can shield users of your class from changes to the "shared" implementation, maintaining their contract with your class independent of such changes).
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