Conrail’s Chicago Line in 1990 - Big Blue’s Gateway to the Windy City

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @matthewrinehart9514
    @matthewrinehart9514 Месяц назад +10

    Growing up on the C&NW west of there Conrail was always a nice treat. So was MP 😢 excellent video

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much, Matthew! This was a colorful era in railroading, for both operations and equipment. We remember the excitement of seeing those old road names too. Definitely some great memories! We appreciate the comment.

  • @Iflagum
    @Iflagum 13 дней назад

    This is an awesome time capsule. Pretty wild how little is tagged even in 1990!

  • @SPRailfan4449
    @SPRailfan4449 Месяц назад +5

    This documentary was a real fun one to watch. Seeing Conrail, Santa Fe, CNW, BN, CSX, etc. is super cool. This documentary shows the true might of Conrail and how busy Chicago is as a rail hub. Great documentary yet again by C vision. 💙👍🏻👏🏻

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!!! We’re happy to hear that you enjoyed this one. It was a fun video to put together. We hope to cover more of Conrail in the future, so please stay tuned. Thanks again.

  • @artistikfunk5916
    @artistikfunk5916 Месяц назад +5

    Great stuff! Conrail had the best horns.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you very much, Art! And yes, those RS3Ls definitely packed a strong punch, as long as they were working properly…

    • @christianhill9217
      @christianhill9217 Месяц назад

      You mean Amtrak 😊

  • @wamozart9573
    @wamozart9573 Месяц назад +3

    Great video. Thanks for posting this.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Thank you kindly! And you’re very welcome. We appreciate you taking the time to watch.

  • @AlikStansberry
    @AlikStansberry Месяц назад +4

    Well done on the 1990 railroad footage here. Liked the Struggling CNW, hard working B23-7 trio etc.
    Conrail must’ve been the biggest owner of Leslie horns given all their units had them, from what I’ve seen so far. BNSF had plenty early on as well.

    • @Cnw8701
      @Cnw8701 Месяц назад +2

      Leslie RS3Ls and S3Ls were common on every railroad back then until the early 2000s (especially UP, CNW, CR, and ATSF). When the 2000s rolled around, that's when the government pushed for sound regulations for railroad horns. That's why K Series horns (specifically the K5HL, K3LA, K5LA, and K5LLA) are so common now since Leslie failed to meet those requirements for the government's decibel ratings.

    • @AlikStansberry
      @AlikStansberry Месяц назад

      @Cnw8701 The push for horn sound regulations are why that’s the case? I wasn’t aware of such regulations like that until now. What about the P series? (P3 & P5 for example) are they acceptable to today’s regulations even though they’re rather uncommon?

    • @Cnw8701
      @Cnw8701 Месяц назад +2

      @AlikStansberry Idk to be honest. From my understanding, the K Series horns are. I would highly recommend looking into 5-Chime Air Consultants.

    • @Cnw8701
      @Cnw8701 Месяц назад +1

      @@AlikStansberry There's numerous websites and forums that shed light on the topic. One of them is 5-Chime Consultants. I'd highly recommend looking them up.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you very much, Alik! We’re happy to hear that you enjoyed the video. And yes, Conrail loved their Leslies! As did several of Conrail’s predecessors. As for the BNSF, we greatly miss hearing those old RS3Ks and RS3Ls on former BN and Santa Fe units. That’s progress for you… Anyway, we appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.

  • @mjrodriguez8670
    @mjrodriguez8670 Месяц назад +1

    Conrail from Elkhart into Chicago certainly hosted power from many different rail systems! A very good video!

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, that is a very accurate observation, MJ. It appeared that Conrail and the western railroads were working together to pre-block trains to bypass Chicago. That’s a good move, since it undoubtedly saved countless hours of transit and dwell time that otherwise would have been lost in the Chicago terminal. Thank you for watching and commenting, MJ!

  • @TheBamaPrinceable
    @TheBamaPrinceable Месяц назад +1

    Love it.
    With the Soo in Chicago and McCook Junction videos, I'd love to see something of a retrospective director's cut of Today's Chicago Railroads with ALL of Hadley's scenes that were not included in the original release.
    I'd buy that DVD in a heartbeat.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you!!! And that’s a great idea. We have found countless scenes that were left on the cutting room floor, for one reason or another. It’s always a joy to share previously unused footage that would have otherwise never seen the light of day. We very much appreciate the comment.

  • @shanejohnson4898
    @shanejohnson4898 Месяц назад

    It's always a good day what C.V.P decide to drop a new video.
    Hello from Australia

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  29 дней назад

      Thank you, Shane!!! We always appreciate hearing from our Aussie railfan friends. Greetings from Minnesota!

  • @samualGARRETT
    @samualGARRETT Месяц назад +1

    i never would have thought to see a up and a conrail together

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Pretty neat to see, isn’t it? You never knew what would show up, back in 1990… Thank you for watching the video.

  • @sd80mac
    @sd80mac Месяц назад +1

    It's crazy that that little section of the old PRR Panhandle Route in Dolton was still in use by NS for the bottle trains until fairly recently.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  29 дней назад

      We found that to be quite interesting as well. It’s always fascinating to find remnants of partially abandoned routes that are often hidden in plain sight, so to speak. Thank you for pointing out that neat bit of history.

  • @genegleason4987
    @genegleason4987 Месяц назад +1

    Went to all the hotspots in Chicago about the same time frame . Dolton was busy as all get out. Every direction you looked there was a headlight . Seen the hot metal train twice .

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Oh, very cool! This was a fantastic time to be a railfan, that’s for sure. Thank you for watching, Gene.

  • @Nicola636128
    @Nicola636128 Месяц назад

    Very cool video!

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  29 дней назад

      Thank you so much!!! We’re happy to hear that you enjoyed the video.

  • @MattDaugherty-jd7my
    @MattDaugherty-jd7my Месяц назад

    Nice classic video of conrail

  • @colinmulder6806
    @colinmulder6806 Месяц назад +2

    & now another segment of FACTOR TIME P.1:
    1. AH yes, Conrail's CHICAGO LINE, one of the Windy City's COLORFUL stretches of mainline for a variety of train's & motive power.
    2. We begin with a GP15-1 led local switching onto the PORTER BRANCH for locations West of Porter. This line is utilize to access I.H.B'S GBSON YARD at Hammond, IN or access to SF'S TRANSCON MAIN at Streator, IL via Kankakee. LIGHT ENGINE MOVE featuring power usually for INTERMODAL'S heads East after speculating delivering a transfer delivery to one of the Chicago railroads.
    3. Next comes AMTK #49 with typical mix of AMFLEET & HERITAGE equipment. The track in the background guarded by semaphores is CSX'S mainline from Grand Rapids, MI who's fleet of train's utilize several miles of trackage right's over BIG BLUE'S turf West of Porter before rejoining their own rails. These freight's also includes CP RAIL moves on trackage right's from Canada via Detroit, MI & Windsor Tunnel who occasionally bring in NEW EMD'S from London, OT.
    4. Missed was AMTK'S WOLVERINE arriving off their privately own rails from Battle Creek, MI. In addition to him, their JOINT SERVICE with VIA RAIL called the INTERNATIONAL can also be seen daily through Porter.
    5. Northwestern Indiana is the U.S'S #1 home for producing STEEL products & this Eastbound move demonstrates how it was keeping BIG BLUE busy with the traffic being generated. Keep in mind that their major business within Chicago is INTERMODAL but the trailing freight cars must've came off interchange from BN.
    6. The C&NW move must've been one of TWO symbol's. Either it was ELPR(ELKHART, IN - PROVISO, IL C&NW), ELNP(ELKHART IN, - NORTH PLATTE C&NW+UP), or SENP(SELKART/ALBANY, NY - NORTH PLATTE, NE).
    7. I'm surprised to see that Dan ventured East from the Chicago area to view more of BIG BLUE'S operations. & beginning West of Burdick was rewarded with the SURPRISE GUEST appearance with of the SPENO RAIL GRINDER. These folks can be seen often enough on heavy traveled freight lines due to how many come through daily & high speed movements. When that results in heavy abuse to the rails themselves, they come in to smooth them out & maintain their ORIGINAL form which extends their lifespan for a few more years.
    8. After another GP15-1 led passes, we're with the arrival of symbol freight ELSF(ELKHART, IN - SANTA FE STREATOR, IL). This freight will head west to Porter where he'll switch onto the PORTER BRANCH towards Gibson, IN. From there he'll come North of CP SCHNIDER through Kankakee to enter CHICO'S TRANSON mainline at Streator IL & continue westward to Kansas City, KS. He's one of THREE RUN-THROUGH'S operated by BOTH roads.
    9. Next comes another C&NW run-through along with an ELKA(ELKHART, IN - KANKAKEE, IL). The NEXT DAY'S version of AMTK #49 has a bit of fading paint on the leading F40PH.
    10. Moving to our LAST stop on the C.L. at Durham finds either Westbound ELBN(ELKHART, IN - BURLINGTON NORTHERN CIECRO, IL) or SEBR(SELKERK/ALBANY, NY - BELT RAILWAY OF CHICAGO) carrying a SUPERB amount of general merchandise destined for BN. He's meet by Eastbound PREL(PROVISO, IL C&NW - ELKHART, IN), NPEL(NORTH PLATTE, NE - ELKHART, IN), or NPSE(NORTH PLATTE, NE - SELKIRK/ALBANY, NY) who despite having difficulties is able to coax itself up the grade thanks to the engineer in keeping things under control.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  16 дней назад

      Hello again, Colin! As always, we appreciate you taking the time to write up another round of factors for us. Our response factors can be found below:
      1. The Chicago Line never disappoints!
      2. We were pretty excited to find all of that previously unseen footage. Definitely some great catches on Dan’s part.
      3. We appreciate that additional information on Porter. Those semaphores were really neat! Regarding Amtrak 49, their crossover move at CP 482 prevented Dan from capturing the train at passenger speeds, but it still ended up being a nice run-by.
      4. As you may have guessed, we intentionally left that scene out. Our goal was to keep the positive Conrail vibes going ;)
      5. The steel industry is big business for the railroads. Conrail did their part to ensure the viability of that industry through reliable transportation. Regarding the BN traffic on the rear of CR 6799 East, we made sure to include that block of cars in the video. Just another example of the interesting equipment that could be seen in 1990.
      6. You’re on the right track with those symbols. Conrail and CNW had a good thing going with their coordinated Chicago interchange service.
      7. Dan captured some neat scenes east of Porter. If it weren’t for them, this video may not have been put together. And correct on those rail grinders. They are especially important for routes that handle a high volume of traffic.
      8. Thank you for providing details on the Conrail / Santa Fe interchange operations. Those trains used a creative routing to avoid the more congested areas of the Chicago terminal.
      9. All correct. Thank you for mentioning that Amtrak unit. It could have benefited from a visit to the paint shop…
      10. Dan was in the right place at the right time for that meet. Something you may find interesting is that Conrail didn’t use helpers on that grade. If a train stalled, the next eastbound would be used to push them up the hill.
      Thank you, Colin! We’ll see you next time.

  • @CinophileRailroad1993
    @CinophileRailroad1993 Месяц назад

    Holy Coincidence Batman! I Just Ordered Off Of Etsy With My Christmas Gift Card A Set Of Refrigerator Magnets That Included One Of The New York Central Logo, And One Of The Conrail Logo! Great Video As Always, And Keep Em' Coming! 🚂 💙 👍 #Conrail #Blue

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Thank you very much!!! That is a nice coincidence. As we’re sure you know, much of the trackage that you see in this video is former New York Central.

  • @johnmagnusson7545
    @johnmagnusson7545 Месяц назад

    Awesome Santa Fe train 🙂👍

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Thank you, John! It was definitely a nice surprise. We appreciate the comment.

  • @RailFan1981
    @RailFan1981 Месяц назад

    Awesome stuff 👍 I definitely miss hearing those RS3L's 😕

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much!!! As for the RS3Ls, we miss them too. Definitely one of the most iconic and recognizable sounds in railroading. We appreciate the comment.

    • @RailFan1981
      @RailFan1981 Месяц назад

      @CVisionProductions1 My pleasure! Keep up the good work 👍

  • @rayfoley1966
    @rayfoley1966 Месяц назад

    Takes me back. (Worked outta Garrett and happened to have pilot Amtrack on the Conrail into Chicago)

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Those pilot jobs are usually pretty good. Especially when it’s a hotter train or Amtrak. Thanks for watching, Ray!

  • @Peyton3-g4b
    @Peyton3-g4b Месяц назад

    best railroad ever! :D

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Conrail was definitely a fan favorite! Thank you for appreciating them.

  • @bobbybrisk643
    @bobbybrisk643 Месяц назад

    This is awesome! Im modeling up to Summer 90 for Amtraks 48/49.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Oh, very cool!!! Hopefully this video provides a good reference for you, as it features train 49 twice during the summer of 1990. Thank you very much for watching.

    • @bobbybrisk643
      @bobbybrisk643 Месяц назад

      @ This video features the summer 1989 to 90 consist in the fall the consist was given Amfleet coaches again

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      That’s good to know! It’s nice that you can pin down the dates like that.

    • @bobbybrisk643
      @bobbybrisk643 Месяц назад

      @ My Dad was assigned to Albany Rensselaer as an Engineer, I know all the consists and all their changes for all years. I primarily model 1977-90 after would br 1999 till 2025 or so.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      As far as home terminals go, that’s probably one of the best in the region for Amtrak. Plenty of beautiful routes to run out of Rensselaer. By chance, did he ever work the Adirondack trains on the D&H?

  • @barryboer4232
    @barryboer4232 Месяц назад +1

    Yay! Conrail

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Yes! Conrail has arrived at C. Vision’s RUclips Station. Thank you for checking out the video.

  • @NSHorseheadSD70
    @NSHorseheadSD70 Месяц назад

    At 4:57 that sure looks like one of the ex-CNW cabooses the MGA picked up. Wonder if its going to Chicago to be forwarded to Conway and then to Brownsville?

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      You’re right! It absolutely was. Great catch on that. The caboose may have been lost in transit between the CNW and the MGA, because it is definitely being returned to the CNW in this case. There may have been confusion with the billing, or Elkhart simply thought it looked like it needed to go back to the CNW, since caboose “transfers” such as this probably weren’t too common. As you probably know, waybilled locomotives end up ping-ponging back and forth like this too. Either way, we very much appreciate the comment. Again, great catch!

  • @cwshawk
    @cwshawk Месяц назад

    Between the BN E Units video a couple of weeks back, and now this, I’m going to have to start smoking again to calm down.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      Great comment! Thank you very much for that. As for your plan, those things aren’t cheap anymore! We appreciate you taking the time to watch the video.

  • @metalheadrailfan
    @metalheadrailfan Месяц назад

    Was on the Chicago Line back in July and wished I could replace the Thoroughbreds with Big Blue.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      It’s an impressive piece of railroad! We’re glad that you were able to visit. But yes, we completely understand how you feel. Conrail had some real character. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.

  • @cnnsrailfan6511
    @cnnsrailfan6511 Месяц назад

    Sad to say too 6021 is being dismantled. Also in the last time of Conrail, 6021 had an RS5T horn

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      That is very sad news, but we absolutely appreciate you sharing that information with us. For a GE Dash 8, it lived a long life. Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @steelrail-rs1sk
    @steelrail-rs1sk Месяц назад

    Did the hot metal train still have friction wheel bearings? All the lids are still in place.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад +1

      Good eye. Our understanding is that they were equipped with roller bearings, but the old friction bearing covers were kept in place as protection. If anyone knows more, please chime in. We appreciate the comment.

  • @christiansklodowski7802
    @christiansklodowski7802 Месяц назад

    Is this from a DVD that is for sale, or excess footage recently released?

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      This is just another in our line of videos from the collection of videographer Dan Hadley. At this time, it is only available here. Thank you for your interest in the video.

  • @boweandrew3
    @boweandrew3 Месяц назад +1

    Is there a full length dvd of this show?

    • @metalheadrailfan
      @metalheadrailfan Месяц назад +1

      A lot of this was taken from Pentrex's Today's Chicago Railroads.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      About half of this footage was also used in Pentrex’s “Today’s Chicago Railroads.” This entire video was sourced from Mr. Hadley’s original tapes, which he has graciously shared with us. Thank you for watching.

  • @agonecrescent6189
    @agonecrescent6189 Месяц назад

    Does anyone have info on the CSX cylindrical car at 15:33 ?

    • @jimikrentkowski4073
      @jimikrentkowski4073 Месяц назад

      It almost looks like an old Louisville &Nashville

    • @bluegrassnnawoods8198
      @bluegrassnnawoods8198 Месяц назад

      older style grain car CN and CPKC still use em

    • @agonecrescent6189
      @agonecrescent6189 Месяц назад

      @@bluegrassnnawoods8198I know what they are, I was just wondering about this car specifically.

  • @MokkaMatti
    @MokkaMatti Месяц назад +1

    *Q U A L I T Y*

  • @JohnWittmeyer
    @JohnWittmeyer Месяц назад

    Do you have any thing on Baltimore in Ohio?

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      We have footage of CSX trains on former B&O trackage, but nothing in the B&O era. Thank you for asking.

  • @jonmoore4919
    @jonmoore4919 22 дня назад

    The second unit wasn't loading on the CNW up hill train.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  17 дней назад

      That’s certainly possible, but we’re not sure. It was definitely online. Thank you for sharing your hypothesis with us.

    • @jonmoore4919
      @jonmoore4919 17 дней назад

      @CVisionProductions1 it wasn't a hypothesis. I didn't hear it loading when it went under the overpass. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm nitpicking. I brought a train westbound to Chicago yesterday that had the same problem until I reset computer. I've had trains in the past that sounded like they loading but were not.

  • @raymarshall6721
    @raymarshall6721 Месяц назад

    Back when it was just a couple of rail companies with bland liveries and leased cars. Those were the days.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  Месяц назад

      You never knew what would show up in 1990. It was best to keep a camera ready at all times. Thank you for watching the video.

  • @Robert-ki7bz
    @Robert-ki7bz Месяц назад +2

    Not sure why people insist on not recording the whole train. Railfanning is about railfanning the train, not just the locos and a fraction of the cars on the train.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  29 дней назад

      We make sure to include as much of the train as possible. Lots of care goes into editing these videos, but we can only do so much. Thanks for watching, Robert!

    • @At7577-t3g
      @At7577-t3g 19 дней назад

      Calm down king rail fan it's a great video

    • @Robert-ki7bz
      @Robert-ki7bz 19 дней назад

      @At7577-t3g It's not bad, but it should be better.

  • @princessofthecape2078
    @princessofthecape2078 4 дня назад

    It's amazing to me that Penn Central could have been one of North America's most successful and profitable railroads, and instead imploded because of work culture. What a joke.

    • @CVisionProductions1
      @CVisionProductions1  3 дня назад

      Their destiny was to fail. The railroad industry learned a lot in those dark days. Deregulation fixed a lot of the problems that were ever so apparent during Penn Central’s collapse. Thank you for the comment.