First of all, that 80-point turn that person was making at around the 2:30 mark was ATROCIOUS lol. Second, I watched this whole video man, glad YT suggested this for me. Gained a new SUBSCRIBER for sure. Lastly, I think I like the 1/4 Glimmerglass. Feels and looks like it "seals the deal" a little better. Crushes / bakes in the things I wanna see, sharpness - contrast - shadows, etc.. I just feel like it pulled it all together better. Anyway, great video man, glad to be here !
haha wow I did not even notice that 🥸 I appreciate the comment and subscription! That’s a good summary. I just think It’s gentle but still has some vibe! But again…it’s contrast + sharpness too.
Nashtown! Been a few times for some jobs but never made it downtown, so I had to check it out. Figured with all the bright lights…it would work well for something like this!
Great video! I hope you were traveling before that IT outage that caused the airlines to shut down. I got stuck in Minneapolis for 12 hours but luckily made it back to Nashville!
Oh NO! We literally flew out the day before everything crashed. That would have made this video VERY different for sure. Glad you made it home and thank you for the comment!
Great video and informative in a way that felt very candid. Great color grading, too. It makes these mistakenly simple moments appear special. Great job.
Love this. Seeing the differences is great. Now I know! If you do this again please do glimmer and promist at the same intensities. Think with the amount of people who use ProMist that would be super helpful. Love it man!
Great video Michael, I am just a hobbyist hack photographer and have been a Sony shooter since they bought Konica Minolta back in the early 2000's, I have had a change in my vision, in my 60's and just found a change that i am drawn to the B filter Glimmerglass , I don't believe i have ever heard of Tiffen, now i will check them out for sure, my current filter selection is a mixture of Hoya and a few other brands, that work ok, now i am finding a need to use something that's easier for me to use, I have floaters in one eyed i think after this Tiffen maybe a good investment for me and my hobby, Thx again 👍
Uncle Bob! Thanks for this comment. Tiffen makes some awesome filters. Definitely check them out. Glimmerglass is a pretty slick filter that’s been around for a while now. It’s subtle, gentle, but really creates a bloomy, filmic image. I’ve used it with still photography a bit but I have mostly used it for video/ film work.
Awesome comparison, though I don't really vibe with glimmerglass. I get the use case and I understand the appeal, but it's not really a look I'm ever trying to achieve. Though im typically shooting with very clinical glass. I could see it being a good option if you're shooting with something vintage and don't want to add more softness to the image, while still blooming your highlights.
That’s exactly the opinion I was hoping for and it’s totally fair. I really wanted people to see what these filters did in a few use cases, in order to know what they do so WE can decide if and when to use/ buy/ try.
Great video! I've been looking for a replacement to my promist which broke in my bag after some rough backroad driving in WV a while back, and this helped me see some cool options. I recognized Dulles Airport at the beginning there, I'm assuming you're DMV based? Nice to find a fellow filmmaker from the area!
@mahartman This video is exactly what I needed to choose the right filter for my project. Thanks much for the effort and helping out folks like me. Keep up the good work!
The more that I've used the Black Pro Mist the more I don't like how aggressive they are with the highlights and the loss of contrast. I'm trying out Glimmer Glass on my X100VI and it's been nice. Im probably going to replace my Pro Mists.
Shimmer and Black Pearl are going to yield similar results, but for cheaper, you may have to lean more towards the used market (it’s fairly easy to find some used filters on fb or eBay). Hope this helps!
Let’s ask Tiffen. They’ll probably shudder at the question! That blonde guy seemed cool but man he just wouldn’t sit still! Should probably get it checked out but he doesn’t listen!
My Glimmerglass 1 creates less bloom in bright lights than my Schneider Hollywood Black Magic 1/8 but the Hollywood softness look is more subtle than the GG 1. you have to test these in person to see what works best for you but I never liked the overdone Pro Mist filters. Too 80s soft for my taste.
the added grain and colour grade distracted from the purpose of the video which is seeing the differences between filtrations. A standard 709 conversion and a bit of contrast for the comparison clips could've been better so we really appreciate in detail.
I can see that. I played with the idea of adding in a "rec709" portion to each clip during the sequence, but decided against it in the end. Hope you still got something out of it though.
Have to say I laugh at at all because everyone’s doing this rush for 8K cameras and then we diffuse the crap out of it because we don’t like how sharp it is you people are insane
I laugh too! Though there's positives to both though. Low-res imaging and then diffused artistic intent creates a mucky image. With a higher resolute base image, the palette for your intent becomes stronger and clearer. That's my experience anyway. Still...makes me laugh ha.
This comment assumes, rather ego centrically, everyone’s intent on technical and/or creative decisions for certain specs. Some like more resolution for the sake of it. Some like it for the headroom in editing (stabilization, reframing, down scaling etc). Some prefer a particular sensor/pixel layout design (OLPF, WRGB, Equal RGB pixels) which might come on a particular camera or mandate high resolution sensor in the case of the Blackmagic 12K equal RGB pixels) technology. When it comes to filters the same applies. Some like to counter the SIDE effects of a high resolution sensor they prefer for other reasons mentioned above (to your point although there is often good reasons behind it contrary to the implication of otherwise). These pro mist and permalescence filters can be used practically for high dynamic scenes with cameras that have limited dynamic range. They can be used creatively to give a similar effect to using a fog machine in an interior high contrast ratio scene for a slight volumetric atmosphere feel as opposed to heavier contrasty scene. The wide use cases and reasons for choosing a filter or high resolution camera or both are so many that to assume “the one reason people do it makes no sense:” hopefully you see where the flaw in that logic is.
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Hope you all enjoyed this video! Please don’t show up at my house or scan that QR code 🥸
You have an eye that a lot of cinematographers don't. Great color and attention to detail even in the talking head section. Good work.
Agreed! The compositions look great.
I appreciate these comments. Thanks for the kind words!
i applaud you for standing in the middle of that airport. my shy ah def wouldn't have been able too lmao
Checked a box off the list. It was quite intimidating haha.
First of all, that 80-point turn that person was making at around the 2:30 mark was ATROCIOUS lol. Second, I watched this whole video man, glad YT suggested this for me. Gained a new SUBSCRIBER for sure. Lastly, I think I like the 1/4 Glimmerglass. Feels and looks like it "seals the deal" a little better. Crushes / bakes in the things I wanna see, sharpness - contrast - shadows, etc.. I just feel like it pulled it all together better. Anyway, great video man, glad to be here !
haha wow I did not even notice that 🥸
I appreciate the comment and subscription! That’s a good summary. I just think It’s gentle but still has some vibe! But again…it’s contrast + sharpness too.
Welcome to Nashville! It’s so cool seeing my town in such a cinematic light
Nashtown! Been a few times for some jobs but never made it downtown, so I had to check it out. Figured with all the bright lights…it would work well for something like this!
Great video! I hope you were traveling before that IT outage that caused the airlines to shut down. I got stuck in Minneapolis for 12 hours but luckily made it back to Nashville!
Oh NO! We literally flew out the day before everything crashed. That would have made this video VERY different for sure. Glad you made it home and thank you for the comment!
Man this was such a great video. Good info, great comparison, no hate, and not too long. You sir have earned a sub!!
Thanks dude, appreciate the sub! ❤️
Great video and informative in a way that felt very candid. Great color grading, too. It makes these mistakenly simple moments appear special. Great job.
Thank you. I appreciate this comment more than you know!
Love this. Seeing the differences is great. Now I know!
If you do this again please do glimmer and promist at the same intensities. Think with the amount of people who use ProMist that would be super helpful.
Love it man!
Definitely in the hopper to do a short video about Glimmerglass and Pro-mist!
Great video Michael, I am just a hobbyist hack photographer and have been a Sony shooter since they bought Konica Minolta back in the early 2000's, I have had a change in my vision, in my 60's and just found a change that i am drawn to the B filter Glimmerglass , I don't believe i have ever heard of Tiffen, now i will check them out for sure, my current filter selection is a mixture of Hoya and a few other brands, that work ok, now i am finding a need to use something that's easier for me to use, I have floaters in one eyed i think after this Tiffen maybe a good investment for me and my hobby, Thx again 👍
Uncle Bob! Thanks for this comment. Tiffen makes some awesome filters. Definitely check them out.
Glimmerglass is a pretty slick filter that’s been around for a while now. It’s subtle, gentle, but really creates a bloomy, filmic image. I’ve used it with still photography a bit but I have mostly used it for video/ film work.
love your talking head set up, it looks phenomenal. Great comparison
Thank you!
Where did you get those posters in your room?
Sandgrain Studio! Best quality minimalist posters I could find.
Great video !
B is more crispy, yet still gets some blur in highlights. I like Glimmerglass better.
Awesome comparison, though I don't really vibe with glimmerglass. I get the use case and I understand the appeal, but it's not really a look I'm ever trying to achieve.
Though im typically shooting with very clinical glass. I could see it being a good option if you're shooting with something vintage and don't want to add more softness to the image, while still blooming your highlights.
That’s exactly the opinion I was hoping for and it’s totally fair. I really wanted people to see what these filters did in a few use cases, in order to know what they do so WE can decide if and when to use/ buy/ try.
Super awkward question...but what trainers are you wearing at the beginning?
Not awkward at all. Salomon XT-4 OG's.
@@mahartman thx 😃
Great video! I've been looking for a replacement to my promist which broke in my bag after some rough backroad driving in WV a while back, and this helped me see some cool options. I recognized Dulles Airport at the beginning there, I'm assuming you're DMV based? Nice to find a fellow filmmaker from the area!
Yea dude! Black pearlescent was my first go-to after promist, and now glimmerglass is my main. DMV all the way baby!
@mahartman This video is exactly what I needed to choose the right filter for my project. Thanks much for the effort and helping out folks like me. Keep up the good work!
The more that I've used the Black Pro Mist the more I don't like how aggressive they are with the highlights and the loss of contrast. I'm trying out Glimmer Glass on my X100VI and it's been nice. Im probably going to replace my Pro Mists.
I think Pro Mist is great for some things, especially 1/8 strength. But I am moving on to newer and softer things!
Thanks….great info…..I like the glimmerglass. Your chair Aeron size C? There awesome chairs ;)
Chair is the Autonomous Chair Ergo! Looking to try something new, so I will add that to my list :)
@@mahartman ya cool….you will need the C size.
I like the Glimmerglass 1 more than the 1/4th imo
fire away brotha!
Will try this one
Are there any cheaper Glimerglass alternatives? There's K&F Concept Shimmer, but I don't know if it's similar.
Shimmer and Black Pearl are going to yield similar results, but for cheaper, you may have to lean more towards the used market (it’s fairly easy to find some used filters on fb or eBay). Hope this helps!
How are these different from smearing chapstick or toothpaste on my lens? 🤔
One of the subjects (blond guy) in this video was very cool and had a cool vibe! I liked how cool he seemed!
Let’s ask Tiffen. They’ll probably shudder at the question!
That blonde guy seemed cool but man he just wouldn’t sit still! Should probably get it checked out but he doesn’t listen!
@@jerodwood he had herpes on his lips, Hes cool enough to go down
Which density was the large cowboy sign of Glimmerglass?
Everything was on the 1/4 strength!
My Glimmerglass 1 creates less bloom in bright lights than my Schneider Hollywood Black Magic 1/8 but the Hollywood softness look is more subtle than the GG 1. you have to test these in person to see what works best for you but I never liked the overdone Pro Mist filters. Too 80s soft for my taste.
Each filter has it's purpose. It's just so helpful to have footage to look at and compare! Gotta try that Glimmerglass 1!
hell yea
Does anyone find whether Glimmerglass 1/2 is too much compared to 1/4?
Seen a bunch of people use 1 and it’s a bit much but not crazy. Think 1/2 would be good without being too much. 1/4 might be way too subtle
I'd like to secure all of them and do a nice big test. That sounds fun.
the added grain and colour grade distracted from the purpose of the video which is seeing the differences between filtrations. A standard 709 conversion and a bit of contrast for the comparison clips could've been better so we really appreciate in detail.
I can see that. I played with the idea of adding in a "rec709" portion to each clip during the sequence, but decided against it in the end. Hope you still got something out of it though.
Its going to be a cycle. Everyone will get the GG etc and dump the pro mist and then everyone will get tire of gg and go back to pro mist.
Glimmerglass on all my Event Cameras
Nice vid man, brave man showing the world your address ;)
Put that sucker into google maps and you’ll see I’m not too brave 🤠
@@mahartmanwell played sir, well played. 🫡 (we need a hat tip emoji😂)
Have to say I laugh at at all because everyone’s doing this rush for 8K cameras and then we diffuse the crap out of it because we don’t like how sharp it is you people are insane
I laugh too! Though there's positives to both though. Low-res imaging and then diffused artistic intent creates a mucky image. With a higher resolute base image, the palette for your intent becomes stronger and clearer. That's my experience anyway. Still...makes me laugh ha.
This comment assumes, rather ego centrically, everyone’s intent on technical and/or creative decisions for certain specs.
Some like more resolution for the sake of it.
Some like it for the headroom in editing (stabilization, reframing, down scaling etc).
Some prefer a particular sensor/pixel layout design (OLPF, WRGB, Equal RGB pixels) which might come on a particular camera or mandate high resolution sensor in the case of the Blackmagic 12K equal RGB pixels) technology.
When it comes to filters the same applies.
Some like to counter the SIDE effects of a high resolution sensor they prefer for other reasons mentioned above (to your point although there is often good reasons behind it contrary to the implication of otherwise).
These pro mist and permalescence filters can be used practically for high dynamic scenes with cameras that have limited dynamic range.
They can be used creatively to give a similar effect to using a fog machine in an interior high contrast ratio scene for a slight volumetric atmosphere feel as opposed to heavier contrasty scene.
The wide use cases and reasons for choosing a filter or high resolution camera or both are so many that to assume “the one reason people do it makes no sense:”
hopefully you see where the flaw in that logic is.
They look great, but they do not look like they're worth 4 times the price of an original Pro Mist.
1/4 Black Pro Mist (82mm) - $104.99 USD
1/4 Glimmerglass (82mm) - $155.00 USD
1/4 Black Pearlescent (82mm) - $ 155.00 USD
@mahartman i found the Pro Mist for 65€ and the Pearlescent for 250€
I'll take 6 Glimmerglasses plese.
💌 inbound
I’m throwing away my black pro mist
Sell it and then buy 6 glimmerglass like our friend Isaac. But throwing it away is way harder ☠️
@@mahartman I never feel comfortable taking the advice of a short king like Isaac
@@lukefletcherfilms he towers over the lowly flowers of the field
I smashed all mine with a hammer and instantly regretted it when he said he still loves them
Great video!! Just would look for better models next time. They were distracting and ruined the video for me!
Yea that one swoopy haired kid. Dweeb alert. (Thank you for your likeness 🎉)
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150$ for a piece of glass....
It’s cheaper than the 4x5 version ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A cheap UV filter and some DIY can always yield cool results.