VAGs new MQB platform is one hell of piece of engineering. Plenty of modularity to make cheaper or more expensive, sophisticated cars as they see fit, but also designed with hybridisation and batteries in mind so that it isn't a compromised system.
12kwh per 100km is nearly twice the efficiency of the Tesla Model S. Makes sense as that is about 2.5tons. For comparison, an efficient car that uses 1 gallon of fuel per 100km (62mpg) is using over 40kwh of the total fuel potential energy, or about 30% as efficient as the e-Golf. But then the heat from the internal combustion engine is useful during winter! If the petrol of diesel car was 100% efficient, then the running costs for fuel would in fact be the same, as 40kwh of electricity is currently around £5, as is 1 gallon of fuel.
No way! That would destroy me, I am doing 60 miles each way 3 days a week, and its during the school year so i get a lot of breaks. Although, I have herd of some people commuting over 100 miles each way for work.
Panthers1521 Sixty miles each way in an electric car should be no problem as long as you can plug in at work. Twenty years ago I was commuting about 120 miles each way for a few weeks. It's definitely not fun.
Drove an E-Golf today. Returned after 500 miles.. because the guy couldn't keep his foot out of it ! Found it pleasant and comfy.. leather and heated seats didn't hurt that. You can feel the additional weight, but it did well enough over pot holes.. which we have in abundance ! Fit and finish a cut above the 2011 leafs I have been looking at used. In U.S, VW offers an 8 yr/100,000 mile warranty for battery capacity ( 70%) which beats Nissan's 5yr/60,000 miles for battery capacity. I like Leafs battery management Instruments better. Golf has no battery Temp Guage.. and this is NOT a good thing. I found the capacity and charge meters (small analog) less easy to read.. certainly not something you can glance at.. although maybe that will come with time. If you are used to VW Golf/Beetle everything will be right where you expect it to be, so no learning curve there. Good Visability, especially to the rear.
The elephant in the room is that though comparisons are made with the leaf the fast-charging is not mentioned, a quick google indicates that though it has the ability, its not the same plug, so the question is, can it fast charge on ecotricity's charge network as it is now and at the same speed?
Can you include if there is a release date for Europe then one for North America, on any thing that you do get a date on. For there seems to be very little ever getting out of the European market making it to Canada.
Looks like a great car. Still out of reach for most people, but technology like this is often top-down to start with. People who knock the Govt subsidy should be mindful of the indirect subsidies (through taxation etc) that fossil fuel companies get. However, the best part of the video was the Ecotricity knocking fracking at the end - simply brilliant!!!!
I think think that VW has got it right with the free-wheel coasting. This puts the e-Golf at the top of my list; depending on the price here in the US. Robert, you mention an electric defroster, I think? If this is a direct heating electric defroster, then this is a very good thing! Can you confirm this, please?
You can get egolf SE with starting amount $28,000+ with 85kWh and 83 miles range. The price is not that bad. If you want more range, maybe Nissan Leaf of similar price would suit. But egolf is one of the most beautifully looking e-car just after tesla cars with lots of space according to me.
I love VW's too. That's all I've owned over 30+ years of driving. If they just filled the spaces where the engine, exhaust and gas tank used to be then they've done exactly what you say they haven't which is shoving EV components in with minimal effort, investment and, likely, commitment. But no matter, an EV is an EV and that's always great. When will this car be available for retail purchase?
I don't mind having a electric vehicle when the milage gets better. If they can get to a affordable vehicle that can produce 250 + miles I'll be happy enough to buy one.
For me 200 is more than enough. You have to take breaks after 100-150 miles. No-one can possibly drive 200 miles with no stop. During break you can plugin to supercharger while having a snack, etc.
Thanks for the nice review. I would have liked to see the luggage area to see how "conventional" it is, unlike the Focus, for instance. Did they even have to remove the spare wheel?
I know you want to be polite Louie but you could say a few harsh words about the ridiculous price they will no doubt attach to the e-golf. I know it's not in your gentle nature but these bastards need the public shaming to do anything :) All evil needs is for good men to do nothing.
I understand what you are saying and agree, although the e-Golf is comparable to other electric models of roughly the same size, power, range etc so it's not barking mad expensive. All I know is they will get cheaper, they have done already and will continue to do so. Also, my name is Robert not Louie but I'm not sure if you were aiming that comment at me?
fullychargedshow It was a play on your last name :) I am well aware of your real name, Kryten :) I understand you want to be polite, you don't want to misstep and you don't feel comfortable telling the macht schnell engineers that they don't know what they are doing but there is one example that you can hold on to with which you can be absolutely sure that they are being incompetent/dishonest and deserve your scorn and that is the Zoe pricing. The base Zoe without the battery costs almost twice that of a base Clio. I know most people don't have the insight to see that the battery is really not that expensive but when the price is without the battery you can be confident that there is absolutely no justification for the price. And please trust me when I tell you that an electric motor is extremely inexpensive and so is the power electronics. those components don't even come close to matching the price of the many ICE components let alone doubling the price of the car. They truly deserve your derision and you are only doing yourself a disservice by indulging them with a smile. Do not expect deliverance from evil men. I know you want to make peace with everybody but these are your enemies. They don't respond to courtesy. You can try gently reasoning with them that the prices are unreasonably high and that it has nothing to do with component cost nor the passage of time and when they don't respond to that, and they wont, it's time for public shaming. Remember what started this revolution. It was the shaming in who killed the electric car. public light on their evil. not nervous laughter in their midst. It is not a given progression that you can wait out, it is what we make it. When you praise the evil they do, you fail us all. your efforts are for naught.
It appears to be a great EV at today's standards, but I find it disappointing that the E-Golf (and E-Up and the i3) can not charge over 3 phases. Most public charging points in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are 3 phase chargers and being able to use them makes my life so much easier. Most of my long distance driving is visiting basketball games and even when I arrive with an empty battery, it's completely full when I get back to my car (a Renault Zoe). No need for fast charging, no need to interrupt my drive home.
Nowadays the batteries cost around 200 € per kWh. The capacity of the e-Golf battery is 24.2 kWh. That makes around 4900 €. The car costs 35000 €, so it's about 14% of the price.
Brakko Balda The selling price consists of the projected uptake of the car. All R&D plus all advertising/promotion costs have to be borne by the number of units sold. ICE 'normal' cars sell in the millions while electric ones will be lucky to sell one tenth, or even one hundredth of that number. Car companies make cars for a profit; there is no altruism involved. Smaller production numbers = invariably higher R&D etc., costs.
I once heard an automotive Journalist saying: "Batteries make up 30% of the price you are paying for the base price of the car." so its approximately 30% of the base price without any options.
So how long will the batteries last if you was discharge and charge this car everyday? and what happens to the old batteries? and how much to replace the batteries? and how much does it cost to fully charge the car from dead?
All very good questions. Questions that many people choose not to or are incapable of answering. This is not good. And buying one of these now is not the best way to find out, unless you are hopelessly wealthy.
The batteries are built to outlast the car and there has been talk of implementing the degraded ones into immobile household energy storage :) I think the cost to charge the car is something on the order of 1/8th or less the cost to fill up with petrol. So if you spent $100 to fill up previously, it might cost about $15 or less with electricity depending on the time of charging as the cost of electricity varies based on the time of day.
The cost of charging varies immensely, so no accurate figure can be put on it. Batteries last more or less forever, even if you abuse them. And even when completely knackered, the batteries are eminently recyclable. Gas cars, however, will get more and more costly to run. As many car-users will discover. Then there is the house. What use will gas central heating be when gas becomes very expensive, as it most assuredly will. Markets work in interesting, but predictable, ways. . . .
Does Germany look at car charging as something people will mainly do at home or are manufacturers of charging stations setting up across the major cities? I know Tesla is rolling out superchargers across Europe as well as the States to enable fast charging for free to get anywhere. What is it like in Europe today?
Tesla view all of their cars as "roadtrip-capable" because of their long range, so they consider it prudent to invest in means of enabling long-distance travel. 100-mile cars like the e-Golf, Leaf, and i3 are not really roadtrip-capable, so I doubt their manufacturers will significantly invest in charging networks.
Germany has a rather odd attitude to EVs, in my view. Whilst they are showing some interest - well, VW is (and Mercedes is dabbling with them to) - they are building a 'hydrogen highway' of H2 refuelling points right now right across Germany and is the harbinger of a supposed H2-powered transport system - which, as we all know, is a completely daft idea. So, muddled is my take on its attitude. The most advanced country in the EU currently appears to be Estonia which has a huge rapid-charge infrastructure and a 50% grant towards purchasing EVs - elmo.ee/charging-network-2/ I'd say the UK is probably not too far behind Estonia with 500 rapid-chargers due to be installed by the end of the year thanks to a government grant (about 120 currently) but much of the rest of the EU - certainly the larger, wealthier countries - seem to be waiting for Tesla to do all the hard work for them.
Thanks for the info. I find it baffling but I am encouraged to see what Tesla is doing and I hope others who are older and wealthier will follow with even more advancements though I am not holding my breath for that. Hydrogen on the other hand is so expensive and complicated, it boggles the mind.Martin Winlow
I'm very happy that Electric cars are coming out of the woodwork. But Tesla is leaps and bounds away from the current competition. Their Super Charger network is unrivaled. The Model E is around the corner of 35k 200mi range.
3yrs after the video was made. I'm still all for it but ... 1a. If Petrol or Diesel at service stations cost three times that of local stations, people would lose the plot but for service station EV electricity to cost three times that of a domestic charging point, is somehow okay because it's still cheaper than fossil fuels... to travel a third of the distance a full tank of either would take you ADn it therefore takes longer, causing more congestion due to additional charging time? (cue 'infrastructure' argument which is based on you paying for a private organisation's charging infrastructure and not your own. Damn cheek! This is supposed to be about a new way of doing things) 1b. How long before domestic EV charging costs the same as fossil fuels, a la Gordon Brown raising the price of supermarket veg oil because people were driving diesels on it? Even though that no longer generally happens, go and buy 1l of veg oil at ASDA...(rhetorical question/rant) 2. When this video was made a Renault Zoe (at about that time) cost £18,000 new + monthly £70 battery lease + 7500 miles a year limited mileage clause. Today (mid 2017) the same Zoe costs about £4,000 (trade)+ battery lease + limited mileage clause. This single example of the general 'Lead Balloon' EV market negates the "because it's cheaper" argument because it isn't! Cars that depreciate by £14,000 over 3 yrs are not examples of either technological or market stability, even though I get the way it's inevitably going. 3. When is the govt diesel/petrol car scrappage going to kick in and what do I stand to lose ? Forecourts are chokka with diesels because people are panicking, being slaughtered by stealers and all because of a volatility which doesn't yet truly exist. If you want to talk ethics of environmental disaster, start there.
How EU US Japan save the earth while driving? Use Hybrid or EV. How indonesia save the earth while driving? Use a Gasoline/diesel, use LCGC LMPV LSUV also make a traffic jam
VW, find way to put solar panels on top of this car, let car charging during the day without attaching to the charging point, if VW can do that, people will buy this car like crazy, and also E-jetta as well,
With todays solar technology it wouldn't be able to realistically charge up your car. The car has a 24kwh battery, and even with my entire house covered in solar I'm barely getting 24kwh per day. Also it would greatly add to the cost of the car while not being very useful.
Takes too long to recharge, the numbers of jobs will get reduced, ect, ect Now... People always thinks about, oohhh... More windmills ect... and bla bla bla First of all, the production of a windmill is messy... and Expensive, and solar panels... Those witch is used to power electic cars ect... Are... To be fair... equvialt to... Filling up a big V8 close to 100 times and drive like the stig... a single panel... Now... The battery... Stuff get's made in the UK, Get's shipped to Canada, then they'd do some stuff, then ship it to china to get the battery finished and then onto Germany to get the car build... Then now... If running out of juice... It'll take you between 8-10 hours before you can get on the move again...
VAGs new MQB platform is one hell of piece of engineering. Plenty of modularity to make cheaper or more expensive, sophisticated cars as they see fit, but also designed with hybridisation and batteries in mind so that it isn't a compromised system.
12kwh per 100km is nearly twice the efficiency of the Tesla Model S. Makes sense as that is about 2.5tons. For comparison, an efficient car that uses 1 gallon of fuel per 100km (62mpg) is using over 40kwh of the total fuel potential energy, or about 30% as efficient as the e-Golf. But then the heat from the internal combustion engine is useful during winter!
If the petrol of diesel car was 100% efficient, then the running costs for fuel would in fact be the same, as 40kwh of electricity is currently around £5, as is 1 gallon of fuel.
Went from a 2007 golf GTI to a 2020 egolf. Great video
he looks famil... HOLY SHIT IT'S KRYTON!
No golfs in uk custermere cervices told be there will be none till feb 2018,but only orders
from dealers
I just got my eGolf today after much deliberation.
geffel Congrats! I would get one but i have a 120 mile commute 3 days a week :( as soon as im done with this job, i am joining the club!
Panthers1521 Cheers. 120 miles each way???
No way! That would destroy me, I am doing 60 miles each way 3 days a week, and its during the school year so i get a lot of breaks. Although, I have herd of some people commuting over 100 miles each way for work.
Panthers1521 Sixty miles each way in an electric car should be no problem as long as you can plug in at work.
Twenty years ago I was commuting about 120 miles each way for a few weeks. It's definitely not fun.
@@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou how did the egolf go buddy?
I have a mk 6 gti...this is a car I would buy.
We are slowly getting to the future, so cool.
Can't wait, my future car. Always wanted 100% electric.
electric cars in the uk are the only thing you can purchase that have batteries included lol
Actually, the Renault Zoe doesn't. You have to rent the batteries! ;-)
Ad van der Meer Not necessarily. They have the new "i" versions out.
Esa Edvik Only in Norway and UK I believe.
Ad van der Meer Which is where he said he was :)
Esa Edvik
The decision to include the battery in the purchase price is more recent than his remark.
I could watch your reviews for hours, which I suppose I have done cumulatively speaking ;-) Keep up the great work!
Drove an E-Golf today. Returned after 500 miles.. because the guy couldn't keep his foot out of it !
Found it pleasant and comfy.. leather and heated seats didn't hurt that. You can feel the additional weight, but it did well enough over pot holes.. which we have in abundance ! Fit and finish a cut above the 2011 leafs I have been looking at used.
In U.S, VW offers an 8 yr/100,000 mile warranty for battery capacity ( 70%) which beats Nissan's 5yr/60,000 miles for battery capacity.
I like Leafs battery management Instruments better. Golf has no battery Temp Guage.. and this is NOT a good thing.
I found the capacity and charge meters (small analog) less easy to read.. certainly not something you can glance at.. although maybe that will come with time.
If you are used to VW Golf/Beetle everything will be right where you expect it to be, so no learning curve there.
Good Visability, especially to the rear.
The elephant in the room is that though comparisons are made with the leaf the fast-charging is not mentioned, a quick google indicates that though it has the ability, its not the same plug, so the question is, can it fast charge on ecotricity's charge network as it is now and at the same speed?
the future is knocking on our doors :)
Can you include if there is a release date for Europe then one for North America, on any thing that you do get a date on. For there seems to be very little ever getting out of the European market making it to Canada.
Your descriptions are very specific and I´m having so much fun with your languages/pronounciation commentaries lol !! :D
Looks like a great car. Still out of reach for most people, but technology like this is often top-down to start with. People who knock the Govt subsidy should be mindful of the indirect subsidies (through taxation etc) that fossil fuel companies get.
However, the best part of the video was the Ecotricity knocking fracking at the end - simply brilliant!!!!
I think think that VW has got it right with the free-wheel coasting. This puts the e-Golf at the top of my list; depending on the price here in the US.
Robert, you mention an electric defroster, I think? If this is a direct heating electric defroster, then this is a very good thing! Can you confirm this, please?
Still outside my price range. Pity, because it looks like a pretty decent motor.
You can get egolf SE with starting amount $28,000+ with 85kWh and 83 miles range. The price is not that bad. If you want more range, maybe Nissan Leaf of similar price would suit. But egolf is one of the most beautifully looking e-car just after tesla cars with lots of space according to me.
I love VW's too. That's all I've owned over 30+ years of driving. If they just filled the spaces where the engine, exhaust and gas tank used to be then they've done exactly what you say they haven't which is shoving EV components in with minimal effort, investment and, likely, commitment. But no matter, an EV is an EV and that's always great. When will this car be available for retail purchase?
Is there a way to turn off the day-time running lamps on the front? It might increase the range a little bit...
Good review and fantastic anti fracking vid.
Brilliant
12kwh per 100km is 5.17miles per kilowatt hour. Flash forward to winter 2021 and the ID3 is getting 2.3 miles per kwh. Ooops.
Southeast Asia should follow and go electric/hybrid. Charging stations at every RnR.
great review again Robert, keep'em coming sir !
does this means petrol or diesel golfs can be upgraded with electric motors and battery. ? cuz the body isn't changed in the e-golf !
Is it available in 3-door form too ?? !!
I don't mind having a electric vehicle when the milage gets better. If they can get to a affordable vehicle that can produce 250 + miles I'll be happy enough to buy one.
For me 200 is more than enough. You have to take breaks after 100-150 miles. No-one can possibly drive 200 miles with no stop. During break you can plugin to supercharger while having a snack, etc.
I drive straight back from MD to New York City every weekend. 284 miles for me one way. I don't take a break honestly.
Thanks for the nice review. I would have liked to see the luggage area to see how "conventional" it is, unlike the Focus, for instance. Did they even have to remove the spare wheel?
Curious about this myself. Surely they did not get a 1:1 space return on changing powertrains? There must be something gained or lost somewhere.
I know you want to be polite Louie but you could say a few harsh words about the ridiculous price they will no doubt attach to the e-golf. I know it's not in your gentle nature but these bastards need the public shaming to do anything :)
All evil needs is for good men to do nothing.
I understand what you are saying and agree, although the e-Golf is comparable to other electric models of roughly the same size, power, range etc so it's not barking mad expensive. All I know is they will get cheaper, they have done already and will continue to do so.
Also, my name is Robert not Louie but I'm not sure if you were aiming that comment at me?
fullychargedshow It was a play on your last name :) I am well aware of your real name, Kryten :)
I understand you want to be polite, you don't want to misstep and you don't feel comfortable telling the macht schnell engineers that they don't know what they are doing but there is one example that you can hold on to with which you can be absolutely sure that they are being incompetent/dishonest and deserve your scorn and that is the Zoe pricing. The base Zoe without the battery costs almost twice that of a base Clio. I know most people don't have the insight to see that the battery is really not that expensive but when the price is without the battery you can be confident that there is absolutely no justification for the price.
And please trust me when I tell you that an electric motor is extremely inexpensive and so is the power electronics. those components don't even come close to matching the price of the many ICE components let alone doubling the price of the car. They truly deserve your derision and you are only doing yourself a disservice by indulging them with a smile. Do not expect deliverance from evil men.
I know you want to make peace with everybody but these are your enemies. They don't respond to courtesy. You can try gently reasoning with them that the prices are unreasonably high and that it has nothing to do with component cost nor the passage of time and when they don't respond to that, and they wont, it's time for public shaming.
Remember what started this revolution. It was the shaming in who killed the electric car. public light on their evil. not nervous laughter in their midst.
It is not a given progression that you can wait out, it is what we make it.
When you praise the evil they do, you fail us all. your efforts are for naught.
+fullychargedshow What's the name of the intro song?
+Dan Frederiksen
Well, i just got a quote for a EGolf of 29000 €. Still more than the conventional one but getting there.
Dan Frederiksen ere
6 minutes in and i still have no idea whats on the dashboard.
Go to their website, they show and explain the dashboard. It's one of the simplest to understand
It appears to be a great EV at today's standards, but I find it disappointing that the E-Golf (and E-Up and the i3) can not charge over 3 phases. Most public charging points in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are 3 phase chargers and being able to use them makes my life so much easier.
Most of my long distance driving is visiting basketball games and even when I arrive with an empty battery, it's completely full when I get back to my car (a Renault Zoe). No need for fast charging, no need to interrupt my drive home.
Way better car show then the daft Top Gear series with Jeremy the Clown.
Are all these E-car batteries lithium ion, or lithium ion polymer? as the latter is more efficient & uses less batteries.
What is the life expectancy of the batteries? And what happens when they kick the bucket?
+Dave Gilmour Probably longer than the life expectancy of the car...
They Canberra recycled after there no longer useful for the cars.
I get it -the money I save on gas I spend on the car....you give to VW [ ~$30k?] instead upfront to buy the little beauty. Clever VW!
Would I be right in saying that roughly half the costs of an EV is in the batteries ? Or is this just a myth.
The price of the battery cannot be that high, and it is probably much less than that. Maybe 20-25% of the overall cost, possibly?
Nowadays the batteries cost around 200 € per kWh. The capacity of the e-Golf battery is 24.2 kWh. That makes around 4900 €. The car costs 35000 €, so it's about 14% of the price.
alloholisuebelalda so why so high the price????
Brakko Balda The selling price consists of the projected uptake of the car. All R&D plus all advertising/promotion costs have to be borne by the number of units sold. ICE 'normal' cars sell in the millions while electric ones will be lucky to sell one tenth, or even one hundredth of that number. Car companies make cars for a profit; there is no altruism involved. Smaller production numbers = invariably higher R&D etc., costs.
I once heard an automotive Journalist saying: "Batteries make up 30% of the price you are paying for the base price of the car." so its approximately 30% of the base price without any options.
So how long will the batteries last if you was discharge and charge this car everyday? and what happens to the old batteries? and how much to replace the batteries? and how much does it cost to fully charge the car from dead?
All very good questions. Questions that many people choose not to or are incapable of answering. This is not good. And buying one of these now is not the best way to find out, unless you are hopelessly wealthy.
The batteries are built to outlast the car and there has been talk of implementing the degraded ones into immobile household energy storage :) I think the cost to charge the car is something on the order of 1/8th or less the cost to fill up with petrol. So if you spent $100 to fill up previously, it might cost about $15 or less with electricity depending on the time of charging as the cost of electricity varies based on the time of day.
The cost of charging varies immensely, so no accurate figure can be put on it. Batteries last more or less forever, even if you abuse them. And even when completely knackered, the batteries are eminently recyclable. Gas cars, however, will get more and more costly to run. As many car-users will discover. Then there is the house. What use will gas central heating be when gas becomes very expensive, as it most assuredly will. Markets work in interesting, but predictable, ways. . . .
Does Germany look at car charging as something people will mainly do at home or are manufacturers of charging stations setting up across the major cities? I know Tesla is rolling out superchargers across Europe as well as the States to enable fast charging for free to get anywhere. What is it like in Europe today?
Tesla view all of their cars as "roadtrip-capable" because of their long range, so they consider it prudent to invest in means of enabling long-distance travel.
100-mile cars like the e-Golf, Leaf, and i3 are not really roadtrip-capable, so I doubt their manufacturers will significantly invest in charging networks.
Germany has a rather odd attitude to EVs, in my view. Whilst they are showing some interest - well, VW is (and Mercedes is dabbling with them to) - they are building a 'hydrogen highway' of H2 refuelling points right now right across Germany and is the harbinger of a supposed H2-powered transport system - which, as we all know, is a completely daft idea. So, muddled is my take on its attitude. The most advanced country in the EU currently appears to be Estonia which has a huge rapid-charge infrastructure and a 50% grant towards purchasing EVs - elmo.ee/charging-network-2/
I'd say the UK is probably not too far behind Estonia with 500 rapid-chargers due to be installed by the end of the year thanks to a government grant (about 120 currently) but much of the rest of the EU - certainly the larger, wealthier countries - seem to be waiting for Tesla to do all the hard work for them.
Thanks for the info. I find it baffling but I am encouraged to see what Tesla is doing and I hope others who are older and wealthier will follow with even more advancements though I am not holding my breath for that. Hydrogen on the other hand is so expensive and complicated, it boggles the mind.Martin Winlow
Give the range of a Tesla and i would buy it
how does the MoT work with EVs?
so sick of petrol prices and the collusion that goes on in the UK
DC charging option?
if VW ok anything, you can assume it is good
Come on VW, this is second generation time - you should be offering more range for the same price or same range and a lower price....
if you did hit that mercedes in front of you,mercedes dashboard would say "FOUND NEW HARDWARE-SEARCHING FOR DRIVERS"!! hi hi hi :-)
"...interior...not compromised". Ford are you listening?
any info for 2017 e golf range?
300km
Forgot to mute the audio track from the camera mic, eh? ;-)
Prius in-front at 4:30 hahaha
Mercedes are a major share holder in tesla motors in fact if it wasn't for them tesla would not have succeeded
GTE is the way to go :)
I'm very happy that Electric cars are coming out of the woodwork. But Tesla is leaps and bounds away from the current competition. Their Super Charger network is unrivaled. The Model E is around the corner of 35k 200mi range.
3yrs after the video was made.
I'm still all for it but ...
1a. If Petrol or Diesel at service stations cost three times that of local stations, people would lose the plot but for service station EV electricity to cost three times that of a domestic charging point, is somehow okay because it's still cheaper than fossil fuels... to travel a third of the distance a full tank of either would take you ADn it therefore takes longer, causing more congestion due to additional charging time? (cue 'infrastructure' argument which is based on you paying for a private organisation's charging infrastructure and not your own. Damn cheek! This is supposed to be about a new way of doing things)
1b. How long before domestic EV charging costs the same as fossil fuels, a la Gordon Brown raising the price of supermarket veg oil because people were driving diesels on it? Even though that no longer generally happens, go and buy 1l of veg oil at ASDA...(rhetorical question/rant)
2. When this video was made a Renault Zoe (at about that time) cost £18,000 new + monthly £70 battery lease + 7500 miles a year limited mileage clause. Today (mid 2017) the same Zoe costs about £4,000 (trade)+ battery lease + limited mileage clause. This single example of the general 'Lead Balloon' EV market negates the "because it's cheaper" argument because it isn't! Cars that depreciate by £14,000 over 3 yrs are not examples of either technological or market stability, even though I get the way it's inevitably going.
3. When is the govt diesel/petrol car scrappage going to kick in and what do I stand to lose ? Forecourts are chokka with diesels because people are panicking, being slaughtered by stealers and all because of a volatility which doesn't yet truly exist. If you want to talk ethics of environmental disaster, start there.
How EU US Japan save the earth while driving? Use Hybrid or EV.
How indonesia save the earth while driving? Use a Gasoline/diesel, use LCGC LMPV LSUV also make a traffic jam
It was my dream vehicle. ....yes I love u..
wonderful
Nissan Leaf, the first and only one
sorry thats EGOLFS
Is this a review or just you talking to yourself pushing random basic information?
VW, find way to put solar panels on top of this car, let car charging during the day without attaching to the charging point, if VW can do that, people will buy this car like crazy, and also E-jetta as well,
With todays solar technology it wouldn't be able to realistically charge up your car. The car has a 24kwh battery, and even with my entire house covered in solar I'm barely getting 24kwh per day. Also it would greatly add to the cost of the car while not being very useful.
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I don't like golfs
Takes too long to recharge, the numbers of jobs will get reduced, ect, ect
Now... People always thinks about, oohhh... More windmills ect... and bla bla bla
First of all, the production of a windmill is messy... and Expensive, and solar panels... Those witch is used to power electic cars ect... Are... To be fair... equvialt to... Filling up a big V8 close to 100 times and drive like the stig... a single panel...
Now... The battery...
Stuff get's made in the UK, Get's shipped to Canada, then they'd do some stuff, then ship it to china to get the battery finished and then onto Germany to get the car build...
Then now... If running out of juice... It'll take you between 8-10 hours before you can get on the move again...
graphene capacitors
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