Hands-On SMT III Nocturne HD - A Grim, Fascinating World
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Ben storms the streets of a post-apocalypse Tokyo to not only fight demons but also coerce them to his side in the Nocturne HD Remaster.
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This was my shit back in the day, hopefully they will do Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 as well
I'd rather have new Shinigami that's not on a handheld, or at least bring those handheld game over to PC so that i can play them
Shout out to DDS!
Definitely! The DDS games were so damn good :)
@@GilgaMax305 This game blew my mind back then with it's complexity. Unfortunately i didn't enjoy the Persona games as much.
Defiantly agree with you would love to see Digital Devil Saga 1-2 remastered, ordered this as soon as found out it had a physical release maybe they are testing to see if there is a market for remastering their PS2 games, hope for an EU release of the 2nd Raidou game if so
Persona is a character driven story
Smt is a world driven story.
Persona is all about the story of its characters and their relationships, Smt is about the world and the people who inhabit it . That's how I see it atleast
SMT is about the rebirth of the world. Hence the "Tensei" in the name.
@@penttikoivuniemi2146yes. A world driven story.
@@anenemystand5582 Yeah, I wasn't disagreeing, just adding that it's about a very specific aspect of its world.
@@penttikoivuniemi2146 I mean yes it's about the rebirth of the world but the actually story is driven by the world as it exists. The post apocalypse, millennium tokyo, the vortex world, tokyo and mikado. The setting of the world waiting to be reborn is always super interesting and unique. My hope is smt 5 keeps this up and doesnt just do vortex world redux
I haven’t played Nocturne yet but a big reason why I love SMT (More so than Persona) is that isolating and lonely feeling exploring modern environments. And the music just builds the tension and the creepy vibes. Play this series!
Kinda like what nier automata did for modern gaming smt nocturne did for classic gen
@@alexanderluna4598 that's a stretch
@@alexanderluna4598 both are fantastic, but they're very different games with different impacts
one of my absolute fav games of all time! So excited to hear the voices of these characters and try out Raidou!
Thought I was watching an old video for a moment when I saw Ben’s hair.
I'm so pumped for this. Happy to hear Ben's thoughts on it.
I just hope you can now choose abilities that you inherit when fusing.
They actually added it
This was my first SMT game back in the day! Glad a lot more people will be able to play it now. Hopefully the Raidou Kuzunoha games and the Digital Devil Saga games can be remastered at some point as well.
This was my first SMT game and it was fantastic! It was hard as hell but I had no problem getting into it. I also had no idea what I was getting into, so it was a brand new experience featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
I was so excited to play the remaster and then a saw the price and I was like see you in five years when the game gets the actual price it should have at the start. 67 canadian bucks for a PS2 game you gotta be kidding
Bruh chill lol it will probably be on sale for the holidays.
Lol damn money must be tight
They also changed fusion to be able to select the inherited skills, which were just random in the original.
I wish they were able to provide uncompressed audio, but I don't think they had an uncompressed version of the entire battle theme, which had several different guitar solos based on the Kagutsuchi phase. The uncompressed soundtrack release only included one solo.
One of the best JRPGs ever made!
100%
Never had a chance to play it on the PS2. So I am looking out to feel this game for the very first time!
It's a good time. I highly recommend it
Haven’t played lucifer’s call since it was released! Looking forward to revisiting it before SMT V. I replayed SMT IV last year and honestly if V is as good as IV I’ll be happy.
"They sound like bratty high-schoolers that don't fit the ambiance…" Sounds like the perfect voice direction to me. ;p
Pretty unfortunate that this port is still subpar, even after they patched up the Japanese release. Maybe there'll be more fixes by the time it launches globally, but I highly doubt it.
Mods are as always the last hope.
I wanna see Mr. Brandon Jones play this, he was so interested during the anouncement of this game
What I always liked about SMT over Persona was that the demons themselves are actual characters in the game and not just mere summons of the player like in Persona.
I seriously hope they do SMT IV next.
Yes the Music is still the same compressed audio from the PS2 version
That is by far my BIGGEST letdown in the game. Im still excited and looking forward to it though
The map and over world music are uncompressed to my knowledge
The compressed music is a big complaint that has been there since the Japanes launch. At this point I don't think it will get changed.
Can't be changed, because the game has a dynamic music system for the normal battle theme. They could replace the rest of the songs with the higher quality versions, but most of the battle theme variations are only available compressed.
ATLUS is not NIntendo, they just dont have master tracks like 99% other Japanese companies. They can rerecord soundtrack from ground ofcourse, but remaster was outsourced to 3rd party company - Imagine Technology Lands (only 13 people). Game is NOT DEVELOPED by ATLUS, they only publishing remaster, becouse Team Maniax is busy SMT V.
I have a feeling a lot of Persona fans will be disappointed in SMT3. It’s a MUCH different game than any of the Persona series, it’s incredibly hard and somewhat obtuse, and the story/ environments are bare bones. I loved the game back in the day but it’s old school and I have a feeling many won’t know what they’re in for and inevitably complain. Digital Devil Saga would likely jive better with people not used to old school SMT, can’t wait to replay those 2 games again. I spent hundreds of dollars on eBay for them back when they were super rare.
This game is much more in line with SMT roots, which is essentially being a Wizardry clone.
50 bucks with no Dante included is going to be a hard sell for me.
What Benji 64 said, Raidou is awesome, he's just as good as Dante as a gust character. Gameplay wise he's straight up better IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it confirmed that Dante is a separate DLC? Might be remembering it wrong.
@@JurnJurn exactly, the fact that they are selling this for 50 bucks while locking Dante under DLC is a bit tough to swallow for me.
@@theycallmejojo6090 Raidou is cooler and fits better in SMT. Though I agree, both should be included for free.
@@Wind_Falcon Dante costs money because they don't own him. It was either make him dlc, or he's not there at all.
Super excited to pick this up! I have no shame in admitting Persona 5 is what got me interested in Atlus games, so I'm eager to dive deep into this.
I've been on the "Remaster Nocturne" train for years now, and one of the weird thing about it is that even before this was announced, I was waffling on whether or not Nocturne should have voice acting at all. Like... A lot of the characters are less there to be characters and more there to convey an idea, and there's something about the voiceless text boxes that seem to just fold right into the atmosphere of the original release. It's not a game that has a narrative heavily predicated on the emotions of its cast, y'know?
100% agreed. At least the Japanese voices seemed to be really good though, so I don't think they will detract from the meat of the narrative, and who knows, maybe they will even add to it? In some way I am looking forward to hearing my hated skeleton boys speak shit to me out loud.
Really looking forward to picking this up!
I’ll definitely be picking this up on PS4
One of my favorite JRPG's of all time. It is just one of a kind.
Too bad that Atlus really botched this HD Remaster. Honestly, it is more of a glorified HD port than a remaster with some pretty severe performance issues and cut corners. And then there was the whole issue of stuff cut out of the game for the sake of DLC as well as how overpriced it is for what is basically an 18 year old game at a higher resolution. It is just really barebones.
Such is a samurai skill
Ben takling about a JRPG I've been eyeing up for years. Go on then, twist my arm lol.
Took me 3 years to finish this game (took monthlong breaks and played digital devil saga at the same time). It was great and tough. Dante showing up was a treat and did not feel out of place. fighting the REAL final boss was almost impossible. This game is a commitment and I will not play it again (for now...).
"Frustrated" and "Atlus" go hand in hand.
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
Sidenote, are you guys gonna review the game as is or together with the Dante DLC?
Hope for devil summoner raidou kuzunoha remaster too
Hopefully a mod will rectify the music issue on PC. Main thing that's stopping me from getting the game for the moment.
I bought Nocturne PS2 classic on PS3 but only played it like an hour or two. Not sure if i want to double dip with this remaster...
So glad you guys did a video on this. SMT Nocturne is an unrivalled classic of the genre, through and through, among the greats like FF6 and FF7 imo.
This will be my first time playing SMTIII, I think the overall art direction goes a long way in not making the textures look as old as they are, to me the disappointment is if the really don't patch the sountrack to make it decompressed, it'd be a bummer.
I'm so excited for Nocturne.
Had it on PS2. Gave up. Did not get it. My bad.
Tragically this led me to miss out on Persona, Digital Devil Saga, and so forth for years and instead play a bunch of much worse RPGs that convinced me I maybe didn't like JRPGs after all and put me off the genre entirety until a few years ago.
Then I rediscovered Atlus on the 3DS and now, well, SMTV is my most anticipated game four or five years running.
But the 3DS spoiled me. I went back to Atlus on the PS3, rebuying Nocturne and other games, but times are different. I loved it! But I didn't have time for super difficult, grindy dungeon crawlers using the old school hard save system. I just can't play games for hours and hours on end anymore. I need to be able to stop at a moment's notice.
So I stuck to the bevy of SMT games on 3DS, amongst other Atlus gems, and have been in love ever since.
But finally my time has come. A version of SMT3 on handheld I can simply put to sleep? That I can play at a long stretch OR twenty minutes at a time?
Which demon did I sell my soul too? They're welcome to it.T
Hopefully they port Digital Devil Saga next. Also great but I have the same issue with it. I need that suspend option. Luckily Atlus hasn't made a SMT game yet they won't rerelease, or remake, so I think that's inevitably really.
And maybe someday SMTV will come out. But I'm happy to wait as long as it takes.
I can't wait 😎
I was hoping there would be some talk about performance. I saw the steam achievement and am slightly worried from the foreign reviews about performance and as you mentioned textures
From what early reviews said, the performance issues are almost all gone
You have to watch the phases of the Moon because if you're trying to summon on a full moon bad things could happen or was it the other one it's been a long time lol
I missed out on this game because I didn't REALLY get into RPGs till my late teens, I only played GoldenSun and FF6 to completion.
The first in the SMT series i played was Devil Survivor on the DS.
Golden Sun both need a remastered for the switch. GS was the best Gameboy Advance title
Awww man compressed audio would be a huge bummer. Hope that’s just a side effect of the preview build...
Nope. Thats how it's gonna be. Atlus lost the original files for the music.
They could use the versions if the songs on the ost, but It can't be changed because the game has a dynamic music system for the normal battle theme. They could replace the rest of the songs with the higher quality versions, but most of the battle theme variations are only available compressed. All or nothing.
my first SMT game was Devil Survivor on DS and I loved it, but never beat it. I'm really interested in this game and also V.
but why is it always in Tokyo? why not like, I dunno, Zurich or something
Not always in Tokio. There is one exception in mainline SMT - Strange Journey. In SJ u play as American Soldier (literally called Doomguy) and story take place in demon realm called Schwarzwelt in ... Antarctica.
The ONE thing you need to know about the series when it comes to combat and difficulty is that everything is about buffs and debuffs, period. If you think you can pass on debuffs, especially, you'll be sorry.
If only they fixed the music, I would have probably bought it.
Hey Ben you didn't talk about the performance. Did you run into any performance issues at all?
Looking fresh Ben! I downloaded the PS2 version on PS3 as it is £6.49 (much cheaper!) on the UK PSN store... as I thought it was my last chance. Glad PlayStation backpedaled on the shutting of the PS3/Vita stores, why they ever thought that was a good idea...
Looks like this is the Steam version. Im seeing little to no load times on some scenes.
‘Oh no it’s not a completely redone and remade game. It’s terrible!’ Sigh. Poor bastards won’t know what they’re missing.
Oh shit it's da boyz 💪
Guys I’ve played persona 2, 3, 4, and 5 and I was wondering if it’s worth picking up this game.I’m overall open minded and I’ve been wanting to try a legitimate shin megami tensei game for awhile now.
Definitely worth it. This or smt 4 (which is on sale on the 3ds right now), are great entry points
@@LordlyWeeb thank you! And what do you like more smt 4 or smt nocturne?
@@srfn1253 I actually haven't finished Nocturne but I love smt 4. Nocturne is great too though. The Digital Devil Saga games are also pretty easy to get into
@@LordlyWeeb cool thank you for the advice!
@@srfn1253 No prob. Be aware that if you play smt 4 that the beginning is hard. Also, remember to play 4 first, not Apocalypse. Apocalypse is a story continuation from 4, *not* an expanded version. Enjoy
Anyone down for a weirdo private server EZA stream of SMT: Imagine (Learns that was developed by CAVE...WHAT?!)
I go back and forth with favorite Shin Megami between 3 and 4. Who knows.. Maybe 5 will beat them both. 5 is giving me serious 3 vibes.
Nicee ben
30 fps framecap on pc folks!
Who cares? That’s fine
@@jacobsmith7094 when persona 4 golden runs at 60 fps and is cheaper than nocturne it certainly is a problem!
I have it on my list since i am a Persona fan and while know this series is downright depressing sometimes settingwise compared to Persona, i still want to give it a go.
And lets hope they fix some of those things u found as well since i do know Atlus PC ports tend to be lackluster sometimes, though with P5S that did't seem the case anymore.
Then again, Remasters are always a mixed bag, so lets just get suprised eh?
Ben Brad
I still just wanna know if Reuben Langdon is voicing Dante. Lol
He is.
I’m sadly going to bye this more towards the end of the year. RE8, guilty gear strive, and NG collection. Just too many good games coming out
I had no interest in this game, but now I do after playing Persona 5 Royal. I can already see many familiar personas in this video :)
To everyone going in this game next month when it's out. Fusing demons doesn't let you choose what skills to transfer over so make sure you are aware of that. It's not as easy as the rest :)
Didn’t they patch that in the Japanese version?
They released an update that added the option to choose the inherited skills some months ago, the playthroughs will be MUCH smoother thanks to that
@@JulioCruz261 for real? :O I'm extremely happy to hear that! I only knew about how the game was on release in Japan as I've followed several content creators that were big SMT fans.
This makes me even more excited to play it! Thanks a lot for sharing!
God eater with Pokemon.
Existed before both of those
@@LordlyWeeb its meh even if it exists. Need some Star Gladiator and Jet Moto.
@@gunlook Sure buddy
Even if the remaster itself is kinda... mediocre? Go play SMT people. Nocturne is easily one of the best JRPGs I've played, same for SMT IV (which is still stuck in 3DS). These games offer something unique in the JRPG landscape. Challenging difficulty that actually requires strategy and the use of buffs/debuffs, which usually are not important in other series? Check. Unique and post-apocalyptic setting full of rawness, with demons and angels fighting each other? Check. You like games with multiple endings, depending with who you align with? Check. You are kinda tired of JRPG tropes? That's not going to happen with SMT (besides SMT IV: Apocalypse, I guess). You love games with phenomenal soundtracks to accompany the brutal and epic boss fights? Check.
That is just to mention some characteristics, but this series is really worth it. I know it can be kinda intimidating at first, it happened to me as well. SMT needs more support and this year between the remaster of Nocturne and SMT V, there's no better time to jump into the series, specially when Persona has now gained so much attention and brought a lot of eyes towards Atlus.
This has been said a lot of times, but if you have played Persona but not SMT, a good way to describe both is: "In Persona you team up with your friends to kill demons, but in SMT you team up with demons to kill your friends".
I'd suggest start with either Nocturne, because of the remaster and the QoL changes they added, including an easy difficulty option, or Shin Megami Tensei IV, which is a bit more accessible and easier than most entries, but still challenging, specially if it's your first game. IV also has an easy difficulty option, and you can change it anytime, so if you're having a really tough time in a dungeon or you just want to recruit demons without putting you in danger, you can change it to easy, then go back to normal if you want.
I was insanely thirsty for anything proper SMT/Persona for the switch, but damnit if Atlus killed the hype with the absolutely asinine initial pricing for this release. It should be $49 for EVERYTHING (DLC) included in this remaster. Atlus are just flat out being greedy here and banking solely on nostalgia. I don't care if you have any arguments for how they are treating this. Not even Nintendo are this greedy with their remastering ports. Like Mario 3D World +Bowser's Fury or Xenoblade Chronicles: DE, YOU GET EVERYTHING included within that initial asking price.
And for chrissakes, 30FPS locked even on PC while being priced that high?! Not even Persona 4 Golden's Steam release was treated like this.
I agree that the price should be lower, but the dlc is just stuff like money and exp farming. Dante costs money because they don't own him. Merciless difficulty is free.
I'm fine with the locked 30 fps because it's a stable 30. That's all I really need.
finally a reason to turn my switch on
An overpriced and lazy "remaster" of a PS2 game that has separate pay for DLC is your reason to turn on your switch?
Kinda sad to read that with all the great games on the platform
@@AlexTheRed1985 what great games? they are all ports and remasters lmao
@@84jesterx hell yea bro
@@PunchPerfectPlayer Monster Hunter Rise is a port?
Mario Odyssey is a remaster?
Super Mario Maker 2?
ACNH?
Octopath Traveler?
Xenoblade 2?
Hyrule Warriors 2?
Bravely Default 2?
Hell even the new Paper Mario was fun.
Look, I get it, maybe the games on the Switch are not to your liking, but saying it has no games or only ports and remasters is pure BS. Yes they are trying to milk their Wii U games, but they’re just a part of their full line-up.
60 dollars a s theycwerent even bothered to update the frame fate what a lazy port
These two put me to sleep.
Wow how interesting. Please, tell us more.