Let's Start Fixing This Completely Destroyed 1978 Bally Lost World Pinball Machine....
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I had a teeny tiny soldering tip for ya if there's a place I can send you a link to my vid.
this one`s so easily done i don`t know why you can`t bring the graphix back to original saying your not an artist is a cop out iv`e seen some of your other work and i know you can do it . Go on have confidence in your work :)
Could I hire you to work on a Cole ovision unit? If so I will text my email address. Thanks
They're all worth saving, when they're gone they're gone.
That's how we see it too....
To be honest, sometimes the "faded" look of the play-fields looks pretty cool. In this one, the wine and plum colors swirling together looks pretty cool. Almost magical or mystical, like swirling smoke. So cool.
Yeah I think this is a really good one for the fade, it actually kind of looks appropriate. Thank you for watching Crystal!
Yes it should be saved and you're the right man to do it. The gameboard artwork while not "fine" art like Frank Frazetta, it sort of has that look to it. It makes me think of that animated rotoscope movie "Fire and Ice."
I'm excited to see all the repair videos for this bally lost world pinball machine :D it's definitely seen better days lol
Better Days are here again :)
That breaks my heart, Lost World is my all time favorite table.
We're gonna fix it, don't worry!
Love watching you pinball repair videos. I just watched NEXT OF KIN, and my heart broke when the back glasses of some pinball machines were shot up in one of the scenes.
Yeah I hate when they do that... or wreck classic cars.
@@LyonsArcade Especially Mustangs!
REALLY wanted to see the un-glassing of the playfield. Look forward to seeing this beauty run again!
I filmed this quite awhile back, I'll do a video that shows how to take it out but I'm always way ahead, so if I film it today you won't see it for quite awhile!
I love this channel! I repair games vicariously through you! Keep it up, can’t wait to watch the videos this week
Thanks Jon, we appreciate you hanging out with us!
Ron, Joe & Donnie - The 3 Amigos!!!! Thats a beautiful pinball table. Im not a big pinball fan, but I did love playing DR DUDE. Ever came across one of those Ron?
I've never had a Dr. Dude, maybe one day!
Wow - I thought the last one needed a lot of work but this is another level - hope you splice together a side by side before and after, really looking forward to seeing the final result!
Thanks David, we appreciate you watching!
You're brave taking on this one...can't wait to it complete
Coming Soon!
These are my favorite videos. Looks like the type of game I tend to pick up. Labor of love but the end product is so worth it.
Yeah I like working on the ones that need a lot of work!
You can do it !!!!
Always like how you all fix these machines and bring them back to play again looking forward to next lot
of videos as it comes back from the dead.
It's on it's way!
Great trick for not getting paint into the bulb holes, or any hole for that matter, is foam earplugs. You can even cut them in half so that you can use one ear plug for two holes.
That would work pretty well!
Even if it's a budget restoration, the remaining blemishes will give the machine some character! Go for it!
Let's Do It!
Bring it back to life you do great work 👍🏼
Thanks joemode101, we will!
Love the week-long pinball series videos. Gonna be a good week!
Yes it is!
Always fun to watch. I know it’s possible! Because I’m watching this one ☝️
There you go :) Thanks Bob, we appreciate it!
This reminds me of my Seeburg DS160 jukebox, looks like you still have yours. It came with a shell and a bunch of loose parts. My friend who had the car begged me not to buy it, he didn't think I would ever get it to work. But I knew I would, and I did. When he saw and heard it all finished he was shocked I got it working. It's for people like us who can see the finished project in a pile of parts.
You da man Ron 👍
I agree with you, being able to see the finished product at the beginning is very important!
We have faith. Your the man! Years ago I found a game behind an old warehouse. It had sat out for a few years through a few winters.Made this look good. I took it down for parts. Hated to do it. Gave away most of the parts and tossed the rest. This was 20 years ago.
Yeah we've had to part a few over the years, it's a shame but what can you do. I have a few that are in even worse shape than this one!
You can do it! It will be great to see it running again!
Thanks grfeld84, we appreciate you always watching us!
I'm sure everyone knows that Joe from the future is recording these, so I'm sure he's already
worked his magic and this baby is currently dancing.
Hope to visit you guys when / if I get to retire. Wife doesn't want to go to SC. Last time
I was there was in '69 at Ft. Jackson for basic training. Thanks for the videos...
You've got to convince her to go on vacation to Charleston or something she'll like SC. Thanks for watching Roy, we'll see you on the next video!
I know you will get this up and going and looking decent. You wouldn't put up this video if it didn't work out :).
The transformer and power supply board looked to be in pretty good condition, apart from the diodes being swapped. The outside is pretty awful, but inside looks pretty clean.
I look forward to seeing this playing again. I know it will take a while, but it is a labor of love and worth it.
We're gonna get it going Brendan :) Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the upcoming daily uploads! :D
Thanks for watching, Tim!
It's more a lost cause than a lost world, I'm lost of word for it 😂🤣 but I know you'll do your magic and it will be looking nice again 👍🙂 thanks for all the good content, greeting from France. Currently restoring a Rally pinball from 1964, my first EM 🙂
Very cool, I've never had one of those! Thanks for watching in France!
I was excited when I saw the new video up .....oh oh does that mean I`m hooked ...who knows but keep`em coming cause I do enjoy a good pin repair video.
You might be addicted Chris!
Got the high score on this game once and won a Wings greatest hits album!
A Good Friend of Mine, Follows The Stars... Venus And Mars Are Alright Tonight
There is one of these sitting outside a few farms down from me. Not sure how anything could be saved but im loving this upload. If you want me to dig into it or buy it for parts let me know haha.
You oughta go save it Michelle :)
@@LyonsArcade ill see if he will let it go! If so i dont think its header can be saved. So for parts itll be!
Good luck, man. I have faith in you.
Thanks brony, we appreciate you watching!
I had a Black Hole that I paid 200 bucks for that had a playfield in much worse shape then this one. I never put a drop of paint on it. If you can get it up and running 100 percent (which I've seen enough of your work here to know that you can), then the aesthetics can often be seen as a patina of sorts. Just be careful to not make it worse by doing a crappy touch up job. It may even be best to source a local artist to help repaint some of the text around the bonus amounts (which for me, would be the one thing I'd like to see added back). Good luck with the project, and thanks for not tossing it in the dumpster! ;-)
Thanks Troy, we appreciate you watching!
You're doing the lords work
Thanks Jas we appreciate you watching!
Probably the roughest pinball machine I've ever seen, but hey, I've got faith in you! :)
Looking forward to the daily vids!
Tomorrow's is a DOOZY.
You have the time, skill, and money. Why not. Sell it and make a little scratch.
We're gonna do it!
The artwork on that thing is beautiful. It is a shame that it was so mistreated.
Hi master Taco, yes it sucks it's been so beat up but we're going to get it up and running :)
i look forward to observing this restore. Ive been thinking about getting back into project pins.
Do it, we need more people saving them while they're still here :)
Hey Ron, now there’s something I never noticed before - the back box and the base can be physically separated?!?! I had it in my head the back box “hinges down” or something... How in the heck do the games survive with the boxes originally supplied with each other stay together? Another pinball miracle?
Looking forward to this repair!
The early ones yes you could just detach the heads. The later ones folded down like you're thinking.... we've actually bought them before with either the head or the body missing, I went to an auction in Sumpter, SC once and there were about 40 pinball machines there, that the heads were all missing to. So they were just selling the bodies, pretty much useless unless you want to part them or hack them into a coffee table, which I did not... So somewhere, there must have been 40 pinball heads with no bodies. Horrible.
We have a second channel now, but it has nothing to do with Arcade Games! Watch My Brother Donnie get into all kinds of hijinks, lately we've been working on refurbishing an old Trailer we bought, check it out! - ruclips.net/channel/UCuDDNTFs-BLcNYq4DO-BYYA
It's in better nick then my Spiderman I wish my play field was as good as that
Some of them get pretty rough for sure...
You'd probably save a lot of money if you made the magic erasers yourself. All you need is a sponge and a magician.
The artwork is on point!
It's going to be awesome!
Ron, have you ever completely redone a playfield? It is a vinyl transfer I think.
If you have a game that is too far gone I would love to see a playfield replacement sometime.
I've done a couple before, they work pretty well!
Thank you guys,looking forward to the next episode of this machine !! :) x
Thank you Saskia, how do you find time to watch all of our stuff? We appreciate it!
@@LyonsArcade I dont work.so have all the time in the world ;) x
Awesome Awesome. Your job !
I thought you were lost.
I'll follow this one!
I'm never lost, always around doing something :) We're working on many many things, thank you for watching Ricardo!
Joe! Thanks for that screen shot! (8:52) That's exactly what I need! Where did you get that sheet by the way? The connectors were fried so I need to repin them but some wires were pulled out so I need to know which wire colors go to which connector position!
That diagram is in the manual, you can download the manual at www.IPDB.org for most pinball machines including that one. Thanks for watching!
Awesome as usual. Can you show clear coating process?
Honestly all we do is spray clear coat on it out of a spray paint can so there's nothing special to it, I don't really like to film it because there's a lot of people that can do the high-end stuff and do a great job at it, I'd feel a bit pretentious pretending that all you need to do to clear one is spray paint it.... with the way we do it though, with acrylic hand painted touch ups and a pretty much destroyed playfield, it works great.
Makes sense. Thanks.
In bad shape but such a beauty. Looking forward to your magic
Coming soon :)
Nice work! 👌
Thank you Danijel!
::raises hand:: Whoa Whoa...every day?!? You gotta know how when to stop. I heard they guy on youtube say that once. Actually looking forward to you working on this (and finishing it).
HOLD ON ITS GONNA GET BUMPY
@@LyonsArcade C'mon scary music!!!!!
I would try fixing it. That's mostly due to not owning any pinball machines and I want one.
I hope you find one to save!
Man, that game looks like it was rode hard and put away wet.
It's definitely well past what most people would fix!
Rode hard and put away hard
Good grief, those fuses they had in there. If anything went wrong with the transformer, the fuses wouldn't blow in time to prevent a fire inside the head unit (especially that 20 amp one!). Fortunately, that didn't happen. Someone also did a half-ass "Git 'R Done" job on those connectors. It's pretty obvious neither the owners or whoever was doing the repairs really didn't care. As the saying goes, "anything worth doing is worth doing right."
Glad we found them!
Keep them coming!!!
We will!
YOU DA' BEST RON! MERRY CHRISTMAS!
If you installed a frosted glass cover, the playing field wouldn't look half as bad.
That's a good idea, I never thought of that :)
Ahhhh yes a new project. Looking forward to this series and Yes I think you will do a great job (what a messLOL)
We'll see!
@@LyonsArcade You did one before.. I am sure you can get it working.and presentable............. something for me to watch each day while working from home ;-)
two VD germs running across the desk in the clinic, suddenly a doctors hand appears with a tissue covered in disinfectant, first VD germs shouts to the second one "oh no! im a gonner 'ere!"
LOL It loses a little bit in translation but funny :)
Gonna be mighty interesting folks !
More videos soon :)
u will get er done 👍👍
Hopefully!
Can you fix it? Anything can be fixed. If you have the time and are willing to put money in it.
That's true!
So where is the link to your brother channel? Can not find it.... im stupid :) btw you are the man!!! I have faith in you :)
Here you go, check it out! - ruclips.net/channel/UCuDDNTFs-BLcNYq4DO-BYYA
you sell you'rself short ron its you're mind i love
Awww, thanks Ahilker, we appreciate it.
I still need to finish my touch up on LaserCue and spray the cab. xD
I also have a Sea Ray by Bally that the playfield is nice but there was some sort of nest which was probably a mouse nest as there was a bunch of the relays chewed up and some of the playfield and head wiring was chewed up. o.o
Speaking of which you can get something if there is a nest in the machine.
When I cleaned up the nest in my machines I wore my ventilator mask and gloves.
Something like this though I think you are fine. :)
I have cleaned up a ton of pinball machines and have yet to fall very ill yet. :)
And that is ok I actually did the same thing with the cleaning of the Star Trek I got.
I usually just do my cleaner and wax but it was so bad I did use the Simple Green on the playfield then did the cleaner and wax.
And now the playfield is brighter then the sun after just simple greening it. xD
Simple Green works wonders, that's some strong stuff, LOL
@ 6:39. Is it a FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER er er. Sorry electroboom has rewired my brain to say that every time. 😵
You mean the old trailer once Was a grocery store?
See, I watch your videos.😅
So I know that you completed this game, because you've said before that you only upload the first video if you already finished the game.
Presumably this also means that sometimes you are unable to finish fixing a game you started working on. Does this happen many times?
Sometimes, but not often... it just stretches way out sometimes. There is a Daytona 2 Arcade game on here that we did video of, if you watch the first video then the second you'll see like almost a year went by before we finished it. I usually save the footage though until I'm actually done so I don't leave people hanging with unfinished machines....
Great video minus the squeaking sounds when you were cleaning the ball rail.... like nails on chalk board. :)
Rewatch it, but this time, turn down the volume in that part.
You should have used Novus 2 to clean it
I agree you should use Novus to clean yours, Stephen.
Hi Ron, you're off to a great start ! I've seen many of your other pinball/playfield repair videos. and I have no doubt whatsoever that this will look great once you're done!
I do have a couple of questions (because, of course I do...);
1) You've mentioned in the past about heat damage over time in the back box area. Since you have access to several DC voltages in this area, would the addition of a small, quiet computer fan pointed out one of the back box vents to keep the air circulating (and therefore dissipating the heat) be of any help?
2) In this instance, you mentioned having to use a cleaning product on the playfield. You also mentioned not wanting to get the playfield wet. Do you then recommend spraying your cleaning solution onto the rag/towel, and then using the moistened rag/towel to clean the playfield, thus reducing the possibility of playfield damage?
1. That may help, definitely. Couldn't hurt!
2. It's better to do it that way, but when they're really gritty we have to just spray the actual surface down and go to town. On a machine that's in better shape though yup I'd put it on a towel.
Thank you for watching Dave, we appreciate it!
Wow i played crap out of this game like late 70's early 80's I remember if you had the maximum bonus and 5x multiplier it seemed to take forever to count down lol
On the gameplay video, I tilt it when it had maximum bonus, then had to sit there and wait and watch it all drain away, LOL
How the hell did i miss this one 🤔
Better Late than Never !
That shooting lane.... that's just ball residue
Wookie, google Gooch Grease. Now, I'm not telling anybody else to google that, and I never googled that, I just saw it on twitter last week. If anybody but my friend Wookie googles that, don't say you weren't warned!
The playfield lights that are lite and stay on that means that the driver transistors are shorted? If you remove the connector on the output of the Lamp driver board to remove all the lamps connected to the lamp driver board. Each output pin should be Zero/0 volts? if a pin is +6vdc that means the driver transistor is shorted?
@@lwilton yes I did notice that 3 lights were first time turned on and later they were off. The LATCHES are the PIA chips? Some Pinball games Coil driver boards and Lamp driver boards use SCR latches. I have noticed pinball games will solder a resistor across the lamp socket to adjust the timing of the SCR. The resistor acts as a load to the SCR latch, using different resistor values will adjust the SCR latch timing that is what other pinball repair techs have told me that is what the resistor is used for but not sure if this is true or not. Other pinball games will solder a diode across the lamp socket, which All the lamp sockets will have the diode in the same polarity direction. I don't know why they would use a diode in the same polarity direction soldered across all the lamp sockets.
@@lwilton The Lamp driver boards that don't use PIA chips and FET drivers but use Decoder chips will be connected to SCR's. The MCU will address the decoder chip to turn on or off which SCR outputs. The SCR are driven by the decoder chips which are a logic DC voltage to the Control gate of the SCR. The Resistor soldered across the lamp sockets will put a load on the SCR output which changes the on/off timing of the SCR. I think these lamp driver boards were before PIA chips/FET driver boards. When pinball games switched over to PIA chips and FET drivers. The Diodes soldered across the lamp sockets were some sort of early 70's diode matrix lamp circuit but not sure how the diode matrix works if all the diodes are in the same direction across ALL the lamp bulbs. The PIA chips have A,B,C registers which are addressable. When the MCU writes an address to the PIA chips A,B registers it will cause the PIA chip to output high or low on the output pins depending on the address.
OMG that Poor game
It's pretty rough!
I thought I'd played this one, but turns out I was thinking of the 1988 "Escape from the Lost World."
I've never played that one before, but I keep seeing pictures of it, maybe we'll end up with one!
@@LyonsArcade They have (or had) one at Electric Avenue in Manchester, NH.
I think Ron wants to know if it’s possible to fix it??? I think he asked us 30 times!!!!
Yeah, I should stop being so excited!
@@LyonsArcade keep up the great work, love seeing how you bring these machines back from the dead !!!
Have you ever had it so bad that you had to trace and recreate the playfield base just to get it even enough to be playable?
You mean like a new piece of plywood? I've never had them quite that bad but I have swapped the whole piece before off another parts machine...
@@LyonsArcade that's exactly what I meant.
What's the link to your brother's channel? I can't find it anywhere and I'd love to see the mobile home rebuild.
Oh sorry, I put it down below in the comments but people keep missing it. You can see it here: ruclips.net/channel/UCuDDNTFs-BLcNYq4DO-BYYA
@@LyonsArcade Thanks, brother - I love your channel! Keep up the great work!
Did the Factory Silk Screen Play Fields, or were they sprayed on using Stencils?
The cabinets were stenciled very roughly and quickly, but the playfields were silkscreened.
I actually have a LW playfield that I used to learn some about playfield restoration. It looks way better than this one. Would you like it? Im not going to do anything with it. I'd be happy to donate it to you if it would help. Im in St Pete Florida, if that makes any difference. I can email you pics of the playfield if youd like. Cheers!
Thank you for the offer Allen, but we've already fixed the playfield on this one... you'll see in tomorrow's video :) We appreciate it though!
@@LyonsArcade Nice! Cant wait to see.
hand raised
Me too!
Yessss!!!!!
Yes!
Okay, I gotta know where you got that bag of connectors? I have spent 6 hours online looking for connectors for the ST:TNG that I am restoring and its damn impossible to narrow down the thousands of possibilities.
It depends on which size you need, most are either .100 or .156, I'd order them from www.GreatPlainsElectronics.com they cater to the pinball community. Figure out what size you need and he sells the housings and the pins.
@@LyonsArcade thanks Joe. I need the 0.1 inch. I've been looking at places like DigiKey and it's just overwhelming. I will check them out
I have a pretty good feeling it’s gonna get saved Have you ever used LA totally awesome it works wonders when cleaning ? Just a thought
No I've never used that!
Joe's Classic Video Games you can find it at the dollar tree and it’s a 1.00 you can’t beat it for the price
Joe, if there are reproduction back glass's available, are there reproduction play fields available?
Yes there are.... but they’re about $800 and a whole lot of work to replace all the wiring and switches bolts and screws on.
You think that smoke damage is from fire smoke or bar smoke?
Usually if it's black like that it's some kind of actual fire!
That much wear implies it obviously made it's owner a lot of money, yet they never had someone clean it ?
It's not just it's former owners that neglected this, whoever was repairing for them it didn't care either.
Yeah it's been abused multiple times!
I use to work in an arcade about 20 years ago when I was in college. We tried to clean the games if we had time. Weekends were out as everything was always being used and I was busy replacing buttons, pulling papers out of coin mechs and filling up tickets on the prize games. That and picking up garbage and helping lost little kids. So during the weeknights I could usually get to one or two games but I only worked three weeknights and with over 100 arcade games It was a never ending cycle. Usually it just involved cleaning the outside of the cabinet and removing the glass from the monitor and cleaning around that with the occasional job of actually replacing parts. The fishing line on Sega Bass Fishing was the biggest pain. Then "testing" all the functions. I always made sure to do a lot of "testing." :) Pinball games required more work because they had a flat surface it usually meant that it was often a place where drinks were set and eventually knocked over. Removing the glass and cleaning up that mess was never fun.
Is this going to be a daily video series?
Edit: You answered my question.
Yes, it is!
@@LyonsArcade That's cool. Same time tomorrow then. That poor pinball... looks like it was thrown into a swamp.
If it was a slaughterhouse then the dirt could be skin dust from all the animals that are processed in it._
Is it possible to return that to factory new? Yeah, but its hard work and time.
And it'd take a lot of talent! We're going to shoot for "slightly worn but playable" LOL
@@LyonsArcade I'm retired Navy, one of my jobs was working on museum grade aircraft after 'drama' ensued damaging avionics and control panels. I'm the person who got stuck with 'holycrap! did you have an elephant sit on it then take a flame thrower to it?' with the "I want it fixed by tomorrow and I want it like new!" :/ Only some aspects of my Navy experience is applicable to new jobs.
If the playfield gives you gonorrhea Ron, is that caused by having dirty pin Balls?😁
Will that drive up the cost of the asking price? If you have to put a lot of money into it?
We kind of get the same price no matter what it costs to fix, people are hungry for machines and we pretty much just price them about the same, usually sell each one as soon as we're done.
If you catch gonorrhea from a play field then your doing something more than just cleaning it.
I don't judge.
Don't knock it till you've tried it :)
It's a free world... live like you wanna live.... you gotta right! Ain't nobody gonna knock it. There's two girls over here, singing in harmony too. That's all right sista, you gotta right....
I think this pinball was ground zero for Covid 19................
It may have been :)
Lost World or Lost Cause? It's Super Joe to the rescue!!
We're gonna get it!
Wow you have your work cut out for you
Yeah this one is very challenging. I've had worse but this one ranks up there with the worst...
If... you think you can catch gonnorhea from a pinball playfield... you sure as hell aren't doing it right!
Don't knock it till you've tried it
@@LyonsArcade must have been a two player game. fair enough.
Of course you will fix it, hence the video.
Coming soon!
They charged you for this game ? Thats a bit much. Should have given it to you free. Guy was probably never going to do anything with it except throw it in a dumpster at some point. Jeez people kinda suck nowadays lol.
You're saying I'm stupid for paying for it.
@@LyonsArcade nah the guy that charged you for it is stupid. You are judt a sucker for pinball machines. I can forgive the latter of the two XD
Kind of unrelated, buy youtube has gone nuts and inserted full 6 minutes long video as "commercials"...like inserted full unwanted video into one I want to watch....
There's a whole thing going on with the ads, basically if someone skips the ad, the person who made the ad doesn't have to pay for it... so I saw one ad, it was 6 hours long. A 6 hour long ad! I don't know how they even got it to pass whatever youtube's system is, but somehow some ad buyer was playing a 6 hour long ad in people's videos, which meant that nearly 100% of the ads would always be skipped, but people would still see the ad and he wouldn't have to pay for it. It was for a song, that was looped over and over again for 6 hours.
They also do ads based on what you watch or where you went, etc... so the ad they always play for ME, is for St. Jude's children's Hospital. Which are like 6 minute ads, telling the story of sick children. So I'll turn on a video and be working, and everytime an ad pops up it's a 6 minute ad about a kid with a deadly cancer, over and over again.
for awhile last year, every ad was the same ad about 'men's soap' and they cussed in the ad, it was 5 or 6 minutes long too, worst ad ever.
@@LyonsArcade Ok... So people just abuse system...again. And RUclips do nothing about it...again