The bigger the room the bigger the railroad, eh? Nobody ever says, "I have a 60x100 foot basement and I want to model a 12-mile shortline in Z-scale." It's always, "I've got a 4x8 sheet of plywood and I want to model Boston's South Station c.1908 in 2-rail O-scale - and make it Proto:48!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Of course, I'm one to talk - I'm contemplating the NYS&W c.1943 in a 30x40 basement half occupied with storage. 😢 it's a struggle! But I am loving how you are wrapping this monster of a railroad into the space. It gives me ideas - like the train watching spot with bar seating. ❤
Wrong time of year but was thinking back to the 'April, you're a fool' design when looking at the thumbnail picture. Epic design to say the least and again a testament to your abilities in being able to work around the given space and the obstacles within it to get as much detail as possible without it feeling to crowded.
Wowsa! I love watching your design videos and have picked up many ideas for when the time comes to start drafting my (drastically) smaller railroad. I appreciate that you so freely share your knowledge and expertise and always look forward to your planning videos. Just a thought about the ship on this plan; this is my personal view (and it won't be my railroad), but unless the railroad's era were to be changed to before November 1975, I feel that it would be in poor taste to model the Edmund Fitzgerald, even in modified name. Instead, why not consider the SS Arthur M Anderson? She was the last ship to contact the Edmund Fitzgerald, was the first ship on the scene of the wreck, and is still in service on the Great Lakes. She was rebuilt with an added 120' center section and is currently 767'x70 according to Wikipedia.
So does anyone know how the coal gets to the storage area where Peter mistakenly put the three tracks? I think it must be via the three cylindrical concrete silos. It looks like the conveyor system splits into two runs, with one elevated and dumping into the top of the silos, and another running at ground level to their base. The only other access to the coal storage area is a road but they can't possibly be trucking that amount of coal in.
Yes. Just drawing the plan ran into problems with my computer's processing capability. Some of the layers had to be split so I could turn them off while working on other portions of the design.
Look up “unloading a coal train” by NKY Railfan. That video does an excellent job showing the coal handling system. Good thing there’s an access hatch at Horseshoe Curve… just in case NS puts empty centerbeams near the head end again!
I watched several of the Sandusky coal dock videos while designing this layout. In the next installment, look out for where I included some of the derailed cars at Horseshoe Curve in the final design - they are still visible in Google maps.
I didn’t think you were going to need a bigger workshop so soon, lol. Are you going to building any of this layout? I hope the client is young because this could take a long while to get operational, much less, finished. I can’t wait to see pat 2 and what you do with it. You have done a great job fitting everything into the spaces you had available.
The client and I discussed the huge undertaking that this layout would represent. He pointed out that he is a young man and expects to spend the rest of his life building this railroad. There's no expectation of me building any portion of it, although I wouldn't be surprised to receive turnout orders.
Impressive for sure! I'm not sure about the wisdom of enclosing the water heater and furnace, or blocking the garage stairs??? What is the client going to do when he needs to replace the water heater or service the furnace? Instead of a bar in the layout why not make a crew lounge in the water heater/furnace room with easy access to the bathroom? He could put a couch with a TV and refrigerator in there, he could also have his workshop in there. Have a single track duck into the room along the wall to watch a train go by while sitting on the couch having a cold drink.
On the finished plan, there is enough space to get around them for maintenance and provision for hauling them out when they eventually need replacing. The new replacement furnace will almost certainly be smaller than the old one.
@SPSteve Exactly my thoughts; you're spot on. He'll soon regret not keeping this area clear of track. Duckunders should be avoided at any cost, especially with this much space available.
Most of what I do is for HO-scale. You can assume HO unless I specifically say otherwise. Actually, if this layout were built in N-scale in the same space, we would still need more than 50% compression in the yard areas.
From your comment, it appears that you don't know the meaning of the word "epic". It certainly has nothing to do with whether or not something is your personal favorite.
The bigger the room the bigger the railroad, eh? Nobody ever says, "I have a 60x100 foot basement and I want to model a 12-mile shortline in Z-scale." It's always, "I've got a 4x8 sheet of plywood and I want to model Boston's South Station c.1908 in 2-rail O-scale - and make it Proto:48!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Of course, I'm one to talk - I'm contemplating the NYS&W c.1943 in a 30x40 basement half occupied with storage. 😢 it's a struggle!
But I am loving how you are wrapping this monster of a railroad into the space. It gives me ideas - like the train watching spot with bar seating. ❤
Wrong time of year but was thinking back to the 'April, you're a fool' design when looking at the thumbnail picture. Epic design to say the least and again a testament to your abilities in being able to work around the given space and the obstacles within it to get as much detail as possible without it feeling to crowded.
with such thumbnails I also subconsciously check the date.
That seems forever ago now. My viewers won't let me forget it though.
Seems like "The Ultimate Home layout" I love how you walk through the evolution of the plan. Well done.
Wow what an impressive design.
Spectacular! More than impressed.
Very impressive, a testament to your design skills and client handling skills, managing expectation versus reality.
This is shaping up to be one monster of a layout. Reminds me of that April's Fools Day episode you did but this one is real!
Wow, that is going to be a very large layout. Great use of the space.
Wowsa! I love watching your design videos and have picked up many ideas for when the time comes to start drafting my (drastically) smaller railroad. I appreciate that you so freely share your knowledge and expertise and always look forward to your planning videos.
Just a thought about the ship on this plan; this is my personal view (and it won't be my railroad), but unless the railroad's era were to be changed to before November 1975, I feel that it would be in poor taste to model the Edmund Fitzgerald, even in modified name. Instead, why not consider the SS Arthur M Anderson? She was the last ship to contact the Edmund Fitzgerald, was the first ship on the scene of the wreck, and is still in service on the Great Lakes. She was rebuilt with an added 120' center section and is currently 767'x70 according to Wikipedia.
Good idea. The client will probably reed the comments, and might possibly be swayed.
Your designs are always so well done and impressive!
Glad you like them. Thank-you.
Wow! A huge design project and a huge build. I enjoy your videos very much.
Epic indeed!
So does anyone know how the coal gets to the storage area where Peter mistakenly put the three tracks? I think it must be via the three cylindrical concrete silos. It looks like the conveyor system splits into two runs, with one elevated and dumping into the top of the silos, and another running at ground level to their base. The only other access to the coal storage area is a road but they can't possibly be trucking that amount of coal in.
Wow!! What a challenge .
Wow that’s massive!
Yes. Just drawing the plan ran into problems with my computer's processing capability. Some of the layers had to be split so I could turn them off while working on other portions of the design.
Just wow!!
Look up “unloading a coal train” by NKY Railfan. That video does an excellent job showing the coal handling system.
Good thing there’s an access hatch at Horseshoe Curve… just in case NS puts empty centerbeams near the head end again!
I watched several of the Sandusky coal dock videos while designing this layout.
In the next installment, look out for where I included some of the derailed cars at Horseshoe Curve in the final design - they are still visible in Google maps.
Merry Christmas and Happy New year
Do you think it will be finished before Christmas
Yes, Christmas 2067
Wow! Couldn't imagine even conceiving a layout this size. Im assuming he will do furnace room kast so he can bring in lumber through garage?
I didn’t think you were going to need a bigger workshop so soon, lol. Are you going to building any of this layout? I hope the client is young because this could take a long while to get operational, much less, finished. I can’t wait to see pat 2 and what you do with it. You have done a great job fitting everything into the spaces you had available.
The client and I discussed the huge undertaking that this layout would represent. He pointed out that he is a young man and expects to spend the rest of his life building this railroad. There's no expectation of me building any portion of it, although I wouldn't be surprised to receive turnout orders.
wow
Impressive for sure! I'm not sure about the wisdom of enclosing the water heater and furnace, or blocking the garage stairs??? What is the client going to do when he needs to replace the water heater or service the furnace? Instead of a bar in the layout why not make a crew lounge in the water heater/furnace room with easy access to the bathroom? He could put a couch with a TV and refrigerator in there, he could also have his workshop in there. Have a single track duck into the room along the wall to watch a train go by while sitting on the couch having a cold drink.
On the finished plan, there is enough space to get around them for maintenance and provision for hauling them out when they eventually need replacing. The new replacement furnace will almost certainly be smaller than the old one.
@SPSteve Exactly my thoughts; you're spot on. He'll soon regret not keeping this area clear of track. Duckunders should be avoided at any cost, especially with this much space available.
Yes, that's just dumb. I can't imagine how he thinks blocking the bathroom/ stairs /water heater /furnace is a good idea. @@tomsrensen9382
Did you say what the scale is for this layout, or did I miss it?
Most of what I do is for HO-scale. You can assume HO unless I specifically say otherwise. Actually, if this layout were built in N-scale in the same space, we would still need more than 50% compression in the yard areas.
Will you be building any portion of the layout?
Probably not.
@@mpeterll probably a blessing in disguise, given the size and scale!
HO ?
yes, HO HO HO, just in time for Christmas.
Did this guy just get a divorce?
Since he still has a house and money, I'm guessing he never got married in the first place.
Not epic, I’ve seen better.
From your comment, it appears that you don't know the meaning of the word "epic". It certainly has nothing to do with whether or not something is your personal favorite.
@@mpeterll that may be so, but I do know it’s not epic.
@@carltonbirds Epic: (adj) On a grand scale.
@@mpeterll sadly not, as in no not epic.