How Aid Groups in Gaza Coordinated With IDF, but Still Came Under Fire | Visual Investigations
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Using visual evidence and internal communications, The New York Times looked at six aid groups whose operations or shelters came under Israeli fire despite using the Israel Defense Forces’ deconfliction system to notify the military of their locations.
These humanitarian organizations have a direct line to the I.D.F. and come from Western countries, including Israel’s strongest allies. Some of the locations struck had been clearly marked or located in a special humanitarian zone that Israel said was safe for civilians.
The pattern indicates that in Israel’s battle against Hamas, not even the places with every available avenue of protection are safe from I.D.F. strikes.
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I’m an Aid Worker who has been helping people in need for 15 years in Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. This incident shook us to the core, because WCK followed all the safety measures we rely on to keep us from being targeted. Also, this was not some poorly trained militia group in Central Africa. This is one of the most advance militaries in the world. Either this is intentional, or IDF is so inept they are incapable of enforcing basic safeguarding measures.
Thank you for your service, i hope you stay safe
"incident" despite all safety measures they were hit. And then when they hopped into 2 different cars, they got hit again. This wasn't an incident.
Some aid workers are hamas militants
Or the Isis Hamaz led them into a trap.
looks very intentional to me
"But still came under fire".. what a title!
They need to make sure Israel looks like the good guy since israel owns the media. Should be "but Israel still purposefully bombed them MULTIPLE times."
peak passive voice
Classic NYT.
Must be an act of God
According to the Daily Telegraph, Haaretz, and others, the commander responsible for the WCK killings, who was fired afterwards, was Nochi Mandel a West Bank settler and "religious nationalist." In January 2024, 130 IDF reserve officers, including Mandel, signed an open letter imploring that Gaza be deprived of humanitarian aid and that "humanitarian supplies and the operation of hospitals inside Gaza City" not be allowed. According to Haaretz, in Gaza, "every commander makes his own rules." In other words, the commander ignores the higher command and does what he wants. So there are people making decisions on the ground who believe, like Yoav Gallant and Itmar Ben-Gvir at the top, that all aid workers are supporters of Hamas and should be killed. That would explain the pattern of killings found in this video. They're not accidents, they're not incompetence -- they're deliberate murders.
Thank you for this context
Interesting.
There is no legitimate comparison between Yoav Galant and Itamar Ben Gvir. They are vastly different people politically and ideologically. Itamar Ben Gvir is a populist racist who was barred from service in the IDF because of his extremist ideology and actions.
The fact that he somehow weaseled himself into power in Israel is a huge point of contention for many people.
Regarding your statement - your analysis is not far off, but your framing is. Every position of power is ultimately staffed by people. Most times it's the right person, sometimes it isn't. Some police officers are there to help people, others are there to abuse power. Unfortunately, people don't always wear their motivations on their sleeves, or we would never have any corrupt or abusive police officers or politicians. The same holds true for every military in the world, including the IDF. Some people end up in jobs they should not have.
The IDF does not have a deliberate policy of targeting civilians or aid workers, but that doesn't mean that individuals thought the organization don't abuse their position for personal reasons. As with every organization, when those individuals are caught abusing their power or using it incorrectly they are dealt with accordingly (as happened here).
If it is found that this officer acted with express knowledge that these were aid workers, then he should sit in prison for the rest of his life. This is likely not the case, though I do not object to the idea that he may have been lighter on the trigger because of his personal views. He would still have needed a legitimate target identification before carrying out the strike, regardless of how he feels personally.
@@koyou22 The bottom line is that the IDF has killed 10,000 children. I've been following this issue for 45 years, and it's been getting worse. I used to write reports of IDF killing innocent civilians (particularly medical personnel) which were researched well enough by human rights organizations and the media to give reasonable grounds for a trial, but the Israeli government never did anything. The whole system is corrupt. Netanyahu talks about "Amalekites." Government and military officials openly say that they want to exterminate the Palestinians. If the hard-liners aren't in control, why can't the food trucks get through? How many deliberate murders of aid workers do you have to see before you're convinced that it's the system, not a few bad apples?
With their "facts on the ground," the settlers are a major lobby in Israel that will make the two-state solution impossible. The Israeli voters are supporting them.
This is creating problems for Jews (and everyone else) in my country because the Israel lobby is perhaps the most powerful, best-funded, well-organized and most effective lobby in the country. They're spending unprecedented amounts of money in primary and general elections, supporting or attacking candidates on the single issue of Israel, many of them conservatives or Republicans who are bad on every other issue. AIPAC even defeated a progressive Jewish candidate, Andy Levin, who was a Zionist -- just not Zionist enough for AIPAC.
The solution would be for Biden to do what Ronald Reagan did, and tell Netanyahu to end this war (with the implied threat to end funding and political support), but Biden for unclear reasons won't do it -- even though it might cost him the election. AIPAC's lock on the elections would probably make it impossible. So Israel may be contributing to Trump's election.
American Jews, like Jewish Voice for Peace, believe that their identity and education as Jews requires them to fight against a mass extermination like this. We didn't like it when it happened to us, and we should stop it from happening to others. Jews have often adopted causes, like Soviet communism, which they finally abandoned. Zionism is leading to such horrible atrocities, with poor prospects for improvement, that I can no longer support it. Perhaps it's time for you to consider whether the cause you're loyal to has finally betrayed our Jewish values.
This is a logical comment, because in the Israeli government itself they give different instructions, Netanyahu is not one hundred percent in power, ben-gvir The one who misuses his power, Netanyahu can fall at any time,
All Gaza IDF military operation is a failure
Moral failure, military failure, political failure, strategic failure .
I get so angry when protests here are branded as anti-semetic. Being outraged by Netanyahu's horrors does not make you an anti-semite. And my Jewish friends agree!
holocaust survivors and rabbis were being called anti semites immediately after october 7th
Not just Netanyahu. Its the Israeli gov't ever since it formed.
I think it's actually a source of anti-Semitism when Netanyahu and the Israeli government claim their actions and policies to be part of Jewishness.
Free the hostages . Bad things happen in war and ALL countries are guilty of mistakes. Hamas is the problem . Free the hostages
the protests are anti-Israel not anti-netanyahu. The call for the destruction of the jewish homeland (from the river to the sea) is very anti-Semitic.
As long as the USA keeps unconditionally giving weapons to Israel, and keeps protecting the Netanyahu government from the UN, this will keep happening.
america it self doesnt listen to the un lmao
That's a war crime. I m confident there will be justice for the victimes.
I wouldn’t be so confident. Israel has the USA on its side.
prepare to be disappointed, there never is.
bad news bud
Justice never comes when its the Western Allies
no one gonna do sht against zionists lol
What about drone strikes on unarmed teens....?
Those are brown. They don't count for TNYT.
We don't have a perfect country in Spain, but José Andrés and the people at WCK have done a fantastic job over the years. This was sad. Too many innocents have been killed over the months. Netanyahu's stupid grin when talking about the incident after it had taken place was disgusting.
Finally manufacturing consent against genocide. Foreign policy is too slow.
'Offended by everything and ashamed of nothing.' - Israel in a nutshell -
Well said!
Free the hostages
@@marcwells03stop killing aid workers and your own hostages
@@marcwells03stop 💀💀 aid workers and your own hostages
@@marcwells03stop 💀💀 aid worker and your own 3 hostages
The new york times remembered they are a news organization again, lol
They are a news agency - but they will not tolerate any suggestion that the religion of their employees is currently committing a genocide - just like all the politicians pushing the same idea - they're only making it a lot worse!
Every story that neglects to call Israel genocidal only makes more people sympathetic to Hamas!
I hope you do an investigation on al shifa hospital masacare IDF committed and the mass graves that has been found
There was a story in the NYT, "A tunnel offers clues to how Hamas uses Gaza's hospitals," by Matthew Rosenberg and others, Dec. 2, 2023, that did something like that, but they said that because the hospital, grounds, tunnels and other evidence were so completely destroyed, it may be impossible to come up with a definitive conclusion. In summary, they said, "Evidence examined by the New York Times suggests Hamas used the hospital for cover, stored weapons inside it and maintained a hardened tunnel beneath the complex that was supplied with water, power and air-conditioning." Even assuming this is true, I don't understand why the Israelis had to completely destroy the hospital. There is the paradox that if you declare a hospital a conflict-free zone, it will be irresistibly tempting for the enemy to use that hospital as a safe zone for military operations. Couldn't it be captured and maintained without Hamas? How are hospitals usually treated in war? When the Nazis invaded France, did they destroy the hospitals? Are the Russians destroying Ukrainian hospitals? Why are they destroying MSF facilities?
the russians are destroying ukranian hospitals tbh.. that documentary that won the academy award, '20 days in mariupol' is about the bombing of a maternity hospital @@norman_5623
Yes, Russians have attacked a hospital in Mariupol (and probably many more) @@norman_5623
@@norman_5623if you think the enemy is using a hospital as a military base, you need to provide inconfutable evidence of your claim *before* attacking.
Now it is impossible to know if al-Shifa was a legitimate target or not.
@@enricomassignani I agree with you.
Premeditated
This is foul and i pray that we as a nation as a people come together to put a stop to this! We ended Nazism and we should have learned the lesson then, We must stop Zionism the same way we did with nazism! This abuse is a stain on all of humanity. Judaism and Zionism are not the same thing same as Christianity and Nazism were not the same thing.
Zionism diminishes our years of abundant survival and persistence and strength to the idea that we cannot have a home without the ethnic cleansing of someone else's home; that we cannot have strength without someone else having despair; that we cannot have survival without someone else having to die.
-Lily Levin
Or more accurately Naziism and atheism were not the same thing. Though fascism has no qualms about aligning itself with religion, the nazis specifically were areligious. There are plenty of similar christian fash though. Seems current far right movements everywhere are aligning themselves with traditionalist/fundamentalist thinking in associated religions.
Hitler was Christian bud… the Nazi German party was full of Christian nationalists. The Nazi party was Christian in its origins and its beliefs. Atheism had nothing to do with it.
Thank you NYT for doing this.
They’ve been complicit until the world opinion has shifted so much. Liberal means for civil rights, except whatever the current civil rights movement is, and against war, except whatever current war is going on.
@@nygeek6471So true...
Don't be fooled, the NYT is just trying to save face after it came out how biased they really are. This video is a temporary publicity stunt.
Real modern day slaughter
Sickening.
I’m so glad the students have finally opened the eyes of the Americans to the atrocities being committed against innocent Palestinians.
It was on purpose!!
this kind of deliberate attack would disrupt the humanitarian effort for a few weeks to months (which did happen) and because this "goal" is one of the many tools they used in this war to punish the people of that place, and because they know they will get away with it like evey time before what's stopping them from doing that?!
Like hamas attacking an aid corridor? Moron
excellent journalism well done
All aid to Israel should end, until Netanyahu is out of power and the Genocide ends.
Not gonna happen. Israel owns the US.
The problem is Netanyahu is arguably, in relation to innumerable other extremely high ranking Israeli officials, Knesset members, IDF commanders, while extremely far right wing he is one of the less arrogantly brazen extremist who would literally not only be okay with but would actively push to ethnically cleanse all of Gaza and the move over to the west bank.
He's just one of many. Removing him would only result in another Z|0n|st fascist taking over and continuing Bibi's legacy
We haven’t forgotten your complicity either NYT. It’s not gonna be that easy walking this one back.
Noam Chomsky said that the New York Times, for all its faults, and they are many, is the best we've got. You're not supposed to read the NYT from start to finish with reverence, like the Bible. You're supposed to read it skeptically, and if I get one good investigative story a week, I'm satisfied.
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NYT lied and spread Israeli propaganda
Screams without words by the intercept
What complicity?
Is the NYT beginning to do independent investigations and reporting? Now, for independent reporting on targeted journalists!
0 trust in New York time
Noam Chomsky said, "The New York Times, for all its faults -- and they are many -- is the best we've got."
"Came under fire"? Or brutally massacred by the IOF? Or is that kind of language only reserved against Hamas?
It's all a joke. It's all a bad joke. Father forgive us.
The IDF does this regularly, just google Qana massacre in 1996 where they bombarded a UN compound full of civilians (Don't click on images for your own sanity)... Plenty of other instances happened this is just one... Don't get me wrong Hamas isn't an angel in this fight.... Just two devils fighting.
Well the IDF military general told his soldiers all restrictions were held off
Thanks for the man woman who made this
This journalism is so important. It hopefully makes it so that in the future, the IDF and other militaries of western countries prioritize protecting civilians much higher, because they otherwise lose support from allies and the public. I sincerely hope that this investigative journalism is a role model for other conflicts as well.
Israel actively targets civillians. Don't pretend otherwise, it makes you look like a gullible fool.
Journalism at its best and most necessary.
Nice to see the NY Times do something other than uncritically reprint White House press releases.
Doesn't it feel good to do something other than act as a propaganda arm for those who profit from human misery?
right?
They learned a lot from Hitler's camp. They are implementing the same on other people.
thank you for impartial journalism
What? Have you read the NYT??? They're complicit in this genocide as much as Joe Biden is. They're manufacturing consent before our eyes since October 7th and all their lies, misrepresentations and so on do not suddenly disappear because of a 5 mi ute clip like this!
May the lord forgive us for these things that we do to our brothers and sisters.
Call it as it is. Targeted attacks on relief and medics
"World Central kitchen" our beautiful brothers ❤❤❤❤😢
Nice title. Keeping the guilty party free of blame.
🇵🇸🇵🇸 people are finally listening
"but still came under fire" you should get a prize for that understatement, specially after 254 aid workers killed by the IDF.
The whole idea of having safe zones , of making deals not to bomb at a certain time in a certain area is completely doomed from the beginning. I don't know whether there is a thoughtpattern understanding that one can trust modern military drone technic or that one can trust human decisions in war times ... Obviously this is a misconception. It is realistic to mistrust technic. It is realistic to mistrust human decision making processes, especially in war times.
Indians who stand with Israel remember Gujarat atrocities in 2000 that was also genocide Islamophobia
after the war ended hope there will be an inquiry into idf conduct
32k views after 8 days on a channel with 4.6m subscribers on a hot topic?
My comment is doing its part
Thanks NY
How did this piece get through the NYT internal censor? It must have been a mistake 😅
AJ Liebling, who used to report on the press for the New Yorker, said that the NYT is like a giant Jello mold, with good reporters suspended in it like strawberries, trying to do their job.
No words to describe such atrocities immortality and no ethics at all
"The right of the strongest to liberty"!
I'm assuming you will also do an investigative piece on both the Al-Shifa and Nasser hospital sieges. Including the multiple mass graves discovered at both locations.
Or are such resources only for when Westerners are unjustifiable attacked? You've been awfully quiet about 35.000+ civilian deaths.
The Gazans recorded themselves digging the grave in El Nasser in January. And now they are pretending to be surprised by it, Israel may have opened the graves to see if our abductees were buried there because Hamas simply threw some of the people it kidnapped in random places so Israel is trying to find them but it didint dig this grave itself.
NYT investigations like this generally take longer to release because they are so carefully and extensively reached and vetted. When you’re going to contradict the word of a powerful regime, you’ve got to be exactingly precise. I hope they cover those incidents, but if they do, the video will probably release it in a few weeks.
This is just one of the thousands of war crime committed by the illegal regime. And we all knows there won't be any justice.
#RIP to all the innocent souls 💔
Title says it all how truth they are
The suppression is just getting too real! 8 days and 32k views!?!?! Great job RUclips! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
When your main concern is genocide, everything else is 2nd.
Ser latino esta de moda 😊
Well done, NYT.
we need a international army on the ground fighting terrorist IDF?
Abhorrent
😢
Telling the coordinates to be targeted. After the strike, wait for the military review.
Blinken alone replaced the Palestinian hostage in Rafah
Pure evil
גם אם דבר כזה לא צריך לקרות, זה קורה במלחמה, אחרת לא הייתה "אש ידידותית".
לרוע המזל, גם בני ערובה נורו, אבל זה יכול לקרות גם במלחמה.
I discovered what happens when you really fight for human rights in the USA. Sadly, I don’t think too many people will miss this country to be honest.
They do this so organizations would be too scared to go and help the starving Palestinians.
This happened like a month ago. What is the point of this right now ?
To raise awareness. Not everyone knows the news.
Because that's how long it takes an investigation to establish the facts.
Do you want a real investigation or a snap judgement with little regard for finding and verifying facts?
Real investigations take time. That is why this took time.
As mentioned, real investigations take time, specially in this specific situation, as journalists are not authorised by the IDF to enter the war theatre
@@steelytemplar I used to raise money for Israeli medical research, and then I saw reports of these horrible killings. I've dealt with the Israeli government on human rights abuses for 40 years. The Israelis never do a real investigation. They never disclose the results of their investigation. If they do give a response, it's an obvious lie.
For example, go to the Goldstone report (paragraph 770) and see the case of the Rabbo family, where an IDF tank crew drove up to their home, ordered a a grandmother and her grandchildren to come out carrying a white flag, and machine-gunned them down, killing the grandmother and two grandchildren, aged 3 and 5. This got extensive news coverage. The Israelis never interviewed the Palestinian witnesses, and never reported the result of any investigation. That was 2009. Do you believe that they're doing a real investigation and need more time?
If only the NYT would do a piece on how they've coordinated with the IDF to cook propaganda for Israel.
Palestinian have won the battle but world has loose it
obiouslt hasnt won a thing
The IOF telegram mockery to the murdered photos should've properly investigated whether they were true or hoax.
Might all this be cause the politicians actually dont have that much controll over the army? Like in Japan during WW2, where the military partially answers to the civil government.
No. That's a good question, but no. You can look at the public statements of Israeli officials at the top of the government, like Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir and Gallant openly calling for an extermination of the Palestinians, including the children, "because they will grow up to be terrorists." That's what Netanyahu meant when he referred to the Palestinians as "Amalekites". Look up the video, "The Wedding of Hate" and you will see Ben-Gvir dancing to celebrate the murder of an 18-month-old Palestinian boy (with his parents in a settler arson attack). They've also said that aid workers should be treated like terrorists. Human rights lawyers say they've never seen a case of war crimes where the perpetrators have openly admitted their motives like the Israelis are doing.
They were doing well but allowed hamas to mess up their lives.
shame on you west
😢😢😢😢
Like you can trust Israel.
I’m from the UK. and have always supported Israel and their right to exist. I was a teenager when Entebbe happened and was in awe of the bravery of Israel. I have also visited concentration camps in Poland and will never ever forget the horror and depravity I saw.
I think the actions of Hamas October 7th was utterly appalling and I understand Israel wanting to get rid of Hamas and for the hostages to be returned.
However the Israeli response is so extreme and murderous and it will not solve the Hamas problem anyway.
The Israelis are dishonouring the memories of all theJews murdered during the Holocaust in WW2 - shame on them
Absolutely.
If you are pro Israel today, you would have been pro Germany in 1930’s.
Try to have an open heart see what they have done since they have created the country,
This kind people allow them to Seattle as guests because of the persecution of Hitler and all European nations.But what they have done in the name of so called promised land is terrible.
Israel has no right to exist what are you talking about, it didn’t exist 75 years ago it was manufactured. If you want an Israel make it with Britain land, German land, or US land. Instead the Western Hemisphere steals and displaces Palestinians to give what’s not theirs. Isreal is a fascist regime and should be dismantled and reformed into a one state solution for all people from Israel and Palestine.
I very much agree with you and, like you, my mind goes to the Entebbe rescue when I think of how things should have been handled by the IDF after October 7th.
The current war in Gaza is really the antithesis of the rescue at Entebbe. The Entebbe raid was precise, did not cause unnecessary risk to civilians, and emphasized the safety of the hostages. By contrast, the current IDF actions in Gaza are wide-reaching, often indiscriminate, and prioritize killing terrorists (or even just suspected terrorists) over preserving civilian lives. Along with that, the IDF has taken absurd risks with the lives of hostages by bombing facilities where hostages could be kept, shooting people without proper identification (leading to three hostages being shot and killed by the IDF), and restricting humanitarian aid that very well could be keeping hostages alive.
It's awful seeing evil repaid with more evil. And that is happening now.
i would absoulety love to get daily mail delivery not that mumbo jumbo digital stuff i like hand held paper is that still possible in 2024? I would hope! Please leave me a message back id love to know amazing journalism like always!
Ney York Times is a terrible news source these days
The kind of news you can get the horror without watching it... At least, there should be a limit for barbarism and war crime...
Sir I am from India pls help me
My India government doing a wrong way of Dictarship
How Aid Workers Were Assassinated
They lied....they really a bad person
if this was cuba or iraq theere would be sannctions
We (the rest of the world) should be looking at Israel's "Facts and Findings Mechanism", very closely.
Separation of Church and the United States.
The nyt are COMPLICIT in this!
As I see it there is a solution for this crisis. The international community needs to come togheter and put an UN peace keeping force that separates the two and prevents fighting happening from but sides. This is the short-term solution. The Long-term solution is a one state where all rights are guaranteed under Israeli law and in accordance with international law or a 1967 boarder with two states that is separated by an international peace keeping force but I don't think Israelis will agree to this so a one state solution is the only solution as I see it.
The Palestinians should have the right of return to the land that was stolen from them and given the same rights as any Israelis. This is common sense. Those people have ancestry that goes back thousand hundred of years and should have the same rights has any European or an American Jew who wants to settle there. May the Lord of peace guide both sides. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
😮???
The only state in the world that's never known a single day of peace since its conception is Israel. By choice.
Israel Gaza will keep Verified busy for years to come
#IsraeliWarCrimes
#FreePálestine
All the different judges. What do you think the US did in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria? Did you check how many were killed there, it's not easy when you're dealing with terrorists and try to put yourself in the place of the soldiers in the field who are being shot at from various buildings that are considered humanitarian, but it turns out that Hamas violates this time and time again.
I'm a soldier 🪖 and I will never do that especially before you fired 😢you lock your target identify 😢it pretty better especially if you not on under pressure
Assuming that's true, we cannot justify IDF war crimes just because the US army also committed war crimes. We could go through data to quantitatively understand why the situation in Gaza is far worse than any eventual war crimes committed by the US army on the mentioned war theatres, but that would be irrelevant, and it would legitimate your "what about" rhetorical exercise. Israeli authorities have committed way to many war crimes in this war, and they have to be acknowledged, you are not helping Israel and its cause with your fallacy, quite the contrary...
USA give more then 50 billion USD to Israel from its citizens tax money .while USA citizens suffering health insurance issue , homeless issue etc . think how much social work can be done inside of USA by this money ? why USA give its money to Israel while his own citizen yet to homeless ?
Your hypocrisy is embarrassing.
Your ignorance is disgusting
It's about scaring aid workers. I don't like israel to be clear.
Don’t be surprised if Isreal calls this video antisemintic
And everything is a propaganda from your own government 💀😂😂
instead of saying " the NYT is reporting news again" say this " The NYT is reporting news that suit my narrative again"
TLDR; WAR
when you use aid workers and aid facilities as human shields or as a cover, what do you expect to happen
They might've expected that the IDF wouldn't massacre the innocent aid workers, boy were they wrong 😆
@@heristyono4755 then they are the dumbest humans alive
@@heristyono4755 true, sometimes I wonder why despite IDF's records of discriminately attacking UN workers and non-state funded Aid organization... they still be so selfless to feed the hungry
so this is how you build a narrative (some behind the scenes of this documentary below):
you get many pictures of children and damage and cite Palestinian Pro Hamas NGOs and take into account the fact most viewers will not ask difficult questions, like:
what was it that made the IDF target certain sites?
why can't Hamas use sites adjacent (or even the sites themselves) after they were deconflicted? (can NGOs physically stop Hamas militants from abusing their protected status sites and will they report if their site has been compromised by Hamas putting in jeopardy their future as an NGO in the area)
why does the "concerned narrator" choose to stop reading the response of MAP before it clearly cites Hamas propaganda (ruining its credibility as an impartial neutral NGO which supposedly volunteered to help the Gazans and not Hamas)?
why is there no word about the use Hamas does of NGOs and protected sites throughout all of its conflicts (and this one in particular)?
As to WCK, I think part of the reaction was that as opposed to many other organization when the October 7th massacre happened the WCK actually sent people into Israel to help. Which is why this is a tragedy...
unfortunately deconfliction imho is almost impossible without active military protection at all times of the NGO protected sites due to Hamas' deliberate strategy of using protected sites. which makes life even harder for the Gazans unaffiliated with Hamas.
This is a completely inept attempt to dismiss the atrocities of the IDF. The premise you are starting from is absurd. How is it at all acceptable in your mind to be dropping thousand pound bombs next to innocents? If you had a terrorist next door would you be ok with having such a bomb dropped next to your home? You are the one who needs to be asking yourself more difficult questions rather than making excuses for these obvious war crimes.
@@g8briel, The goal should be to minimize casualties on both sides. If you say that you cannot operate at all near civilians that means the world is about to be more dangerous (to be fair the civilians were supposed to evacuate).
Why? The reason there are real civilian casualties in Gaza is because Hamas has perfected the human shield strategy. If civilian casualties will no longer be tolerated at all (geneva convention updated) it means all over the world militant groups and cults will start butchering villages and retreating into their own population (Jihadis also have wives, children, even small children). Is that world better or worse for civilians.
Even before that change you can see Hamas has perfected the human shields strategy.
Here are just some of the tactics:
Use civilian clothes.
Use civilian buildings (for ammunition storage, sniper hideouts, tunnel entrances, explosive traps).
Use protected sites as HQs.
Block humanitarian corridors.
Steal aid from civilians in order to get on the brink of famine in the North of Gaza.
Some even say there was a use of IEDs towards Gazans to stop them from fleeing dangerous zones the IDF announced it would airstrike (strategically important points for hamas)
As long as Hamas is not dismantled and the Palestinians remain radicalized the casualties on both sides will continue rising.
The moment Hamas understands that their strategy of sacrificing the civilians failed and that the international community will not get them off the hook this time is when this bloodshed will start stopping.
@@meirm471 Amnesty International (which was founded by a Jew) looked into the charges of human shields. They found that Hamas was not using human shields, but Israel was. During incursions into Gaza, when the IDF was worried about booby traps in homes, they ordered Palestinians to walk ahead of them, and trip the traps. The Israelis also used an ambulance as a military vehicle, and filled it with soldiers dressed in medical uniforms, to capture Marwan Barghouti.
@@norman_5623 , Amnesty international also said that the Israeli Arabs live under an apartheid regime (despite Arab Justices sending corrupt Jewish Presidents to prison, An arab being the head of one of the largest banks in Israel and the Arabs being able to vote and having the same rights as the Israelis in Israel).
Amnesty also recently marked the death of a man who coordinated and took part (as commander) in the kidnapping and murder of an Israeli soldier (they omitted the reason for his long stint in prison in their headline...).
Not all Jews believe that Israel should exist.
There was even a "Jews for Nazis" (association of national Getman Jews) movement in Germany before 1935 (yep, it is 2 years after Hitler rose to power, the joke was that they would end their meetings with a nazi solute and "down with us" phrase).
Deconfliction works a lot better if the military involved actually VERIFIES targets properly and pursues a policy of not valuing the killing of terrorists over the safety of civilians.
Israel has done deconfliction with US and Russian forces (possibly others) in Syria as well. Somehow, though, the IAF didn't bomb American or Russian forces in Syria. It might be because they were being careful there while they aren't in Gaza.
What a blatant piece of propaganda is this.
literally showing the reality on the ground is 'propaganda' because it doesn't fit your narrative?? it's literally just the truth. they showed the emails and everything.
Someone went to sleep in 1948 and is just waking up...Wakey, wakey!
every news in the US is propaganda, why do you think the KGB existed