The mw designers are absolutely killing it lately. I love this changes and I hope that enveloping breath is auto applied alongside the enveloping mists from breaking chi cocoons, since it technically is casting an enveloping mist while chichi is active. I hope they give us another way for spending the chichi blackout kick stacks for m+ for exactly the reasons you mentioned in this video. Maybe let us cast an instant vivify that always triggers a (weak) zen puls ? idk, just an idea However, I think these changes take too much relative power out of gift of the celestials. I honestly can't see a world where I run gift while playing conduit, since we have plenty cooldowns with 1.5 min conduit, 2 min chichi, 3 min revival and Sheilun to fill the gaps. Hope they change gift to bring a bit more value to the table. Thank you for your ptr coverage, keep up the good work
11:26 I CANNOT wait to walk into a pull with 2 charges and 2 TFTs and just GET THEM DEAD. hahhahahaha One of my favourite things is when DPS don’t have CDs and I just quadruple blast a 4 pack and I’m like 2nd on the meter for that pull.
Only concern i have re. MW and jade empowerment. Is what happens if your primary target dies during your channel? Previously it didn't matter as all your targets were cleaving for the same dmg/healing, whereas now. What happens? Your main target dies and suddenly you're only getting 10% healing off your dmg? Or does the 3000% dmg ramp move to the next target? Could severely screw you over if your main target dies and you suddenly lose 90% of all your healing power on a trash pack. (Yes, obviously the idea is to have the highest health mob targeted but, I often have casters targeted for kick prio and they're often the 1st ones focused down so can be awkward to hunt for the highest hp mob, especially when I suddenly need to use that aoe healing power)
@@tbuksuperfly yeah you're 100% right, they can screw it up. Up until now they had no obvious sign if the game fails to recognize the new target as a primary one because the damage was the same on all targets. I guess the best we can do is to download PTR and go test it ourselves, then report it if it's actually bugged so that they'll maybe get a fix out by the time it goes to the live servers.
We lost a tiny bit of overall damage from CJL around 5%. Still good change though. I think Jade bond might be good in scenarios where you just know about a massive group wide hit in the dungeon and you need to quickly recover from it. I’m thinking of the second dawn breaker boss where the orb and AOE overlap or 3rd boss of city of threads. 2 min seems manageable I get if you analyzed logs a lot of us miss out on a few casts of the 1 min chi ji per dungeon
Yeah that's true, it gives more on demand impact. I even think the massive chi cocoon is going to be desirable in high keys. I just don't know how much we are willing to go to 2 min chi ji tho. I'll have to test!
Haha i think we all knew it wasn't going to make it live. People just don't like when we SAY it though because they think blizzard hears us and them catches on... but blizzard knew before we did lol
They are not just gutting passive Holy Paladin, they are gutting the melee playstyle. The beacon nerfs will negatively affect the healing done during the crusader windows, and thats ontop of the melee nerfs that they got last week.
Youre right. On top of that lightsmith is seeing another nerf. I really hope they have a plan for all of this because it's sad to see the style go If it does!
It does seem like they are gutting the melee healing playstyle of H Pally. But why when there's Fistweaving MW Monks they are continuously buffing and encouraging to play it as a melee healer. Plus, Disc Priest who will always be a dps healer. I am so confused on this lol.
here to help with the disc priest thing: it's not a nerf, it's not a buff, blizzard is kidding themselves, nobody even cares about that talent, and what it does is not impactful anywhere not even pvp. having the shield last longer for what?
Appreciate you getting out of bed to make this video for us early birds.
Haha absolutely! I was definitely more groggy but I don't think i said anything too stupid lol
The mw designers are absolutely killing it lately. I love this changes and I hope that enveloping breath is auto applied alongside the enveloping mists from breaking chi cocoons, since it technically is casting an enveloping mist while chichi is active. I hope they give us another way for spending the chichi blackout kick stacks for m+ for exactly the reasons you mentioned in this video. Maybe let us cast an instant vivify that always triggers a (weak) zen puls ? idk, just an idea
However, I think these changes take too much relative power out of gift of the celestials. I honestly can't see a world where I run gift while playing conduit, since we have plenty cooldowns with 1.5 min conduit, 2 min chichi, 3 min revival and Sheilun to fill the gaps. Hope they change gift to bring a bit more value to the table.
Thank you for your ptr coverage, keep up the good work
Remember back in the day when we used to say mistweaver was a forgotten about spec?
Long gone are the days!
11:26 I CANNOT wait to walk into a pull with 2 charges and 2 TFTs and just GET THEM DEAD. hahhahahaha
One of my favourite things is when DPS don’t have CDs and I just quadruple blast a 4 pack and I’m like 2nd on the meter for that pull.
Lol I know right! Sometimes I run +2's amd top the meters just to feel something 🙃
@ that’s brilliant. I can’t wait to try that. I can live out my superhero “save them all” power fantasies now. xD
I love how they work on MW and fixing the little struggle on ST.
Yeah the devs are cooking and have been for a while now!
Only concern i have re. MW and jade empowerment. Is what happens if your primary target dies during your channel? Previously it didn't matter as all your targets were cleaving for the same dmg/healing, whereas now. What happens? Your main target dies and suddenly you're only getting 10% healing off your dmg? Or does the 3000% dmg ramp move to the next target?
Could severely screw you over if your main target dies and you suddenly lose 90% of all your healing power on a trash pack. (Yes, obviously the idea is to have the highest health mob targeted but, I often have casters targeted for kick prio and they're often the 1st ones focused down so can be awkward to hunt for the highest hp mob, especially when I suddenly need to use that aoe healing power)
I think it already does jump to a new target if your prio target dies, no? Idk, it rotates your character and camera towards another target for sure.
@@MeekoEdits jumps maybe, but will it then apply the 3000% increase is the question. you'd hope it would but this is blizzard, so who knows.
@@tbuksuperfly yeah you're 100% right, they can screw it up. Up until now they had no obvious sign if the game fails to recognize the new target as a primary one because the damage was the same on all targets. I guess the best we can do is to download PTR and go test it ourselves, then report it if it's actually bugged so that they'll maybe get a fix out by the time it goes to the live servers.
Great concern, I'll test this and get back to you!!
@LBNinja7 please update when you know. Thank you!
We lost a tiny bit of overall damage from CJL around 5%. Still good change though.
I think Jade bond might be good in scenarios where you just know about a massive group wide hit in the dungeon and you need to quickly recover from it.
I’m thinking of the second dawn breaker boss where the orb and AOE overlap or 3rd boss of city of threads.
2 min seems manageable I get if you analyzed logs a lot of us miss out on a few casts of the 1 min chi ji per dungeon
Yeah that's true, it gives more on demand impact. I even think the massive chi cocoon is going to be desirable in high keys. I just don't know how much we are willing to go to 2 min chi ji tho. I'll have to test!
I said there was no way that CDR would go live but noo, you all called me a nay sayer. Still, changes sound good.
Haha i think we all knew it wasn't going to make it live. People just don't like when we SAY it though because they think blizzard hears us and them catches on... but blizzard knew before we did lol
They are not just gutting passive Holy Paladin, they are gutting the melee playstyle.
The beacon nerfs will negatively affect the healing done during the crusader windows, and thats ontop of the melee nerfs that they got last week.
Youre right. On top of that lightsmith is seeing another nerf. I really hope they have a plan for all of this because it's sad to see the style go If it does!
It does seem like they are gutting the melee healing playstyle of H Pally. But why when there's Fistweaving MW Monks they are continuously buffing and encouraging to play it as a melee healer. Plus, Disc Priest who will always be a dps healer. I am so confused on this lol.
here to help with the disc priest thing: it's not a nerf, it's not a buff, blizzard is kidding themselves, nobody even cares about that talent, and what it does is not impactful anywhere not even pvp. having the shield last longer for what?
Excited Holy Shock got some love and curious to see how the rest of the tuning cycle plays out.. the temptation to reroll was creeping in hard. 😮💨