One Single Word Ruins This $99 Watch......
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I mean, it is not terrible, but I can't take it seriously. Roll on the V2 with 'COPY' printed on the dial. Or perhaps not. Cheers, Jody
They updated the watch; it now says 'automatic' instead of 'original', they also put a statement on the watch its page.
Honestly, quite like it. 😊
Why didn't they go with something like "Since 2021"? That'll kick their heritage into high gear.
Guanqin, SInce 8500............
.....Cheronometer 😅
👍😅 Original since 2021!
Just to give an accurate history of this watch face: it dates to the mid 1930's, in an era when dials were made by companies separate from the watchmakers. In this case, it was "Weber & Barai", in the city of Pforzheim. In 1937, both Lange & Sohne and Stowa shipped watches using this dial. Lange & Sohne was officially customer #1 for this dial, if you want to declare an official first, but Stowa was customer #3, shipping a model called the "Antea" the same year. You can find pictures of both on the web, the dial is virtually unchanged from what you see today. Same number font, same number placement & small seconds dial. In 1992, Nomos shipped their first homage of this "1930's German dress watch" and made it popular all over again, and they have not tried hard to correct the misconception that this watch design is an original of theirs, as they've continued on to create an entire line of watches based on this. Around 2015, Sea-Gull shipped an homage of the Nomos under the name "Rodina" (also with the ST17 movement, which makes me believe Seestern is somehow connected under the hood to Sea-Gull...) - which was so popular that counterfeit knock-offs of the Rodina began to appear! I have a (real) Rodina, and it's beautiful.
So I don't knock Seestern for shipping this, but I agree the word "Original" is stupid and off-putting. In the Rodina version, the word under the brand name is "AUTOMATIC", which would have been 100 times better. (By the way, IMHO the Seestern SeaQ homage is the best bang-for-the-buck NH35-powered dive watch existing today, so they know how to do *some* things right...)
Interesting! Thanks for the history lesson - much appreciated.
Again, like the SeaQ, this design isn't really owned by anyone.
So.... Seestern used the original Bauhause design, rather than a new Bauhause design. You can make the word make sense, I just don't l ike the font.
Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing
So basically it's an homage of a homage and two homages = an original‼️
Great comment. I was just about to write that Nomos design is not an original one, it's a 1:1 copy :D This was very informative.
Could be worse, 30 years ago in Spitalfield Market I could have bought a watch that had 24 Carrots written on the dial. I regret not buying it to this day.
Wow.
😅
It should have had Bugs Bunny on the dial .
And 14 parsnips , sponsored by watership down .
Aw man, I've heard some stories of regret, but I physically felt the regret after reading this one.
The Chinese companies don't really care what's on the dial. They love using random numbers, letters, words, and names. Pagani design had some random letters on the dial, and when I asked the store what does it mean, their answer was "it's for style"😔
BiDen is far more strange name to have on the dial than Original
I was expecting something really bad! This is nothing! I have no problem with it saying original on the dial. It's actually a nice looking watch. I like it!
I think that's a case of translation issues. Seestern was probably thinking of "Original" more as a word as part of a brand name (after all they made also a watch based on a Glashütte Original) rather than a meaningful adjective. As a bilingual German/English speaker FWIW I would also say that the word feels in this case more like an adjective in English and more as part of branding in German.
Thinking... hmm you give them more credit than they deserve! Thinking? You mean they think???
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I don't speak German, but I would guess that the German word they were probably thinking of would translate to something like "Classic" in English.
@@BrianHartman Ah, that makes sense and does explain things.
Hmm, I'd agree if it was in the same font or all written as one name.
Great video as always, Jody!
To be honest, if I were in the market for that style of watch, I might consider it. At $120, I can't immediately see anything terrible about the specs themselves for that price. 50m is a little weak in terms of water resistance, but this isn't a dive watch, so that's acceptable.
Sure, it takes a lot of balls to put "Original" on that dial, but maybe that's a translation issue. I could see putting "Classic" on the dial, since it's kind of a classic style at this point.
And yeah, I wouldn't take it to watch meetups and show it around for people to examine under a loupe, but you have to know your audience. If you're the type of person who buys homages, you're not taking them off your wrist and letting people examine them anyway, unless someone actually *says*, "Hey, that's a nice watch!". And the improvements over an actual Nomos make this worth considering -- if you're the type of person who can countenance an homage in the first place. :)
I like it, and these days, my eyesight is such that I can barely make out the time, let alone the dial text!🧐😅
I actually like the watch a lot. I’ll never be able to afford a NOMOS. But I’d roll the dice on a gen 2 of this.
Have some class man! Ffs you can do better than throw hard earned money at Chinese photocopier operators!
@@mstevens113
Watch snob alert ‼️
@@mstevens113yeah! Instead you should throw your hard earned money at * checks notes * _GERMAN_ photocopier operators.
lmao gtfoh
Maybe I'm a watch snob too, but there is nothing appealing about copies to me. You can make a Toyota MR2 look a bit like a Ferrari, but you're pretty sad if you do.
There is a big difference between playing Mozart, and being Mozart. A big difference between drawing the Taj Mahal, and designing the Taj Mahal.
Copies, or whatever flattering name you want to call them to make your self feel better, have zero design value, because the design is stolen.
@@LRSTGSEspecially since you can buy non homage dress watches for a similar price
God I love the look of this watch.
I'm so tempted, even with the original written on the dial.
Of course Nomos couldn't print 'Original' either. Tangente is a homage to a design released in 1937 by both Lange & Sohn and Stowa.
Nothing wrong with original, particularly as Nomos weren't. I thought it was going to be something like Paganis resistnat
Or Demark ...
Omg this is absolutely ridiculous what a great package I love the watch I just can't believe that one word original would stop some people purchasing this timepiece how picky can some people be is this a April the 1st joke??? who cares.... For anyone who wants the Nomos look and feel but can't afford or totally refuses to pay the absolutely ridiculous eye-wateringly high prices that Nomos charge this is a great option insane value for money with the bulletproof seagull engine... When you see great value watches like this and other Chinese offerings it makes you realise just how much every single German and Swiss luxury watch brand is ripping us off with their ridiculously high RRPs... The profit margins these luxury watch brands work to is absolutely staggering... Bordering on criminal how on gods earth do they justify their RRPs.... in house movements.... What a load of tosh..... Thank you China you really do shame these European luxury watch houses.... You give us hoi pollei the opportunity to wear great looking timepeices.. These European luxury watch brands don't seem to understand that not everyone on planet earth is a fatcat or premier ship footballer the majority of us can't afford their bloated prices.... Are you listening omega Rolex etc...
How dare Nomos copy that Seestern!
Well, NOMOS did copy a Lange from the early 1930s. It really did exist. And now people everywhere think it's an original NOMOS design. Except this is actually better proportioned than most NOMOS, even if the "Oroginal" is superfluous and inaccurate. Still, having our own realities is so cool! :)
Also Lange just bought the dial back in the days.. So no Lange design..
Seestern actual has done worse than this. Their Subbie homage has the word "SEAMAN" on the dial ...I just can't get over that.
Seaman was a term seafaring men used to describe themselves in the olden days. If you called them sailors, they would angrily correct you. Yes the word sounds funny today and can have a different meaning but at one time it was the proper thing to say.
I don't mind the word original as long as it is spelt correctly, which it has. It has become like Seestern style to put a script word beneath their logo/trademark, just as they had with their pelagos titanium homage. Original doesn't have to refer to the design, it's an Original Seestern watch, not a replica, although I doubt anyone is interested in making a Seestern replica at the moment.
At least Seiko didn't name one of their watches the QC
Are there any other Nomos clomage that also make the lugs?
I see many copy the dial but with standard case/lugs.
I’ve been interested in the Nomos version of this Seestern for a while.
Just took out my Rodina "original" and it looks the same. Without the crown guard, is a new dial and hand set really any update over the past Tangomat homages?
Seeing that Sounders shirt just made my day!
Not only Seestern does do this, but also Feice does this with the FM201. A Tangente lookalike also with "Original" on it. I don't know why this is with these Nomos homages ^^
I don't have a problem with the word "original" on the dial. It's a decent watch. Maybe I'd change the movement for myiota or seiko and that's it
Seagull also makes a Nomos homage that is quite nice. I purchased to decide if I liked Nomos enough to buy one. Great for $150. Ended up Nomos is not my style so I sold it.
Do you know any good alternatives to a Nomos that does not cost over 300 $.
They've changed it from original to automatic. Far better now
Today I’m wearing a $100 Chinese watch that’s already five minutes fast and has Chronometer on the dial. And one of my nicest-looking cheap watches is a R0lex homage that’s branded Stuhrling Original.
They definitely need to change or eliminate the word "Original". Fwiw, exhibition backs are sometimes handy. One of my many watches with the ubiquitous NH35 movement developed a easy to diagnose (and replace) bad bearing rotor. Great to be able to see the issue immediately. I would have otherwise wasted more money and labor on a new movement that was not needed.
I came across the Stührling brand, which also has the “Original” typography. Is it a legit brand or related to clomage other brands like Seestern?
Ive had good luck with a couple sugess but just recently that changed i bought there daytona anniversary chronograph for like 480 US lol and the reset on chrono didn't work so i sent it back like 2 months ago and haven't heard a word... lesson learned
Reminds me of a cheap Rolex copy I saw in Bangkok that said "Bolex" on the watch if you looked close enough!
Thanks for the original content 😜☺️
It is a handsome watch, the scratch on the plate is embarrassing
Maybe Nomos takes a cue and gets better on their lengths. Quick fun one Jody. Thanks!
Did they change it. If you follow the iink for he watch is now says, "Automatic". Great review by the way....as always!
So do we think that this is
a better or worse watch than the 2023 Bulova scaled down moon watch?
alison has a nomos copy called OMOS for the same price or less. she also has a very good knock off of the bell and ross 46mm square watch for 45 bucks
I strongly suspect that Omos actually has Nomos on the dial, i.e. these are outright replicas, thinly disguised as homages on Ali. Usually they do not have pictorial customer reviews as that would give away the thing and Ali would whack the listing.
Hello! i am aware this isnt related to the video, but my searches online have come to no conclusion so i figured id ask here. I recently got a watch from my grandpa, and its from a brand i had never heard of - Dugena. i know its a german brand but there isnt much about it online. Its a beautiful old quartz watch and it was in mint condition. Does anyone have any insight about the brand? i have no idea if its a decent brand if its more about fashion etc
I swear, these companies are always so close to getting it right but then mess something up and I don’t want to buy one!
It looks like it wouldn't be very apparent when on wrist. It is beautiful other than that...Cheers!
Can’t deny the Wearability , Fit and Finish ; along with a decent
Sea-Gull Movement .
.... ethics , schmethics !
It’s the PRC ☝️
Honestly that’s a damn good looking watch. I’ll never spend that kind of money on a Nomos, so when they come out with a white dial version without the “Original”, I’ll be getting one
Eh, it doesn't bother me that much, it's pretty much perfect dial in my book, as the whole watch is pretty perfect because it's not a diver either. Would i buy this watch? No, it's not the type i imagine i would having on my wrist but i don't judge if anyone else does
I seriously looked at Nomos a while back but those ridiculous lugs put me right off. It will be interesting to see if Seastern revise the dial in line with your comments.
They did, it's been updated
Now do this with the club sport and I'll be interested
The Rodina (a subdivision of sea-gull) version of the Nomos is a much better bet,but I don't think they make it anymore but Sea-gull do,at a price.............................
“Automatic” or “Bauhaus” would be better.I do have the Seestern S434,and the 600t homage,both are very good watches imo.
Let's go Sounders!!!! Way to represent Jody!!
You’re a true influencer Jody… the listing now shows “automatic” where “original” was before. 😅
By far the quickest roast of all time Jody
That wasn't even time enough for a microwave fella 👍🏻
What's the story behind my hometown team, the Seattle Sounders t-shirt?
It is very original considering Nomos will not have such short lugs.
It's fine i reckon. Seestern generally produce great quality for not much dosh - in a world of homages/clomages/copies it doesn't offend me one iota that 'original' is on the dial.
Jodie's Sunday Weatherspoons roast (not great)
Hey Jody:) The Webster dictionary defines Original also as "a creative person", so why not to cherry pick this meaning and enjoy the watch :)
See, this is why I enjoy this channel... all the original content 💁🏻♂
Boom tish!
Jody what about the lume test?... Good lume would trump the name
They fixed it! I bought a blue a week ago, it arrived today and it now says Automatic in the same font it used to say Original in.
Hello, I just purchased the airy blue. It is on its way. Comparing it with NOMOS Ahoi neomatik 38 date sky, it seems like the color is even lighter blue in Seestern right?
Lovely watch
I agree, it's to close to the nomos design and nomos watches arent even expensive, go for the og🙏
May 1st 2024.
Jody, I clicked on the link you left. I believe they watched the video. They changed the word "original" to "automatic".
Greetings from Brasil - with s...original word...;)
Yes
So Seestern has changed to Automatic instead of Original, great job listening! The new ones are already on ali.
Lol China, I love translation error items because of the humor. Hopefully Seestrern can discount the SKU and it will become a collector's item.
From the perspective of a "watch person" you are right but I suspect that most people that buy watches on Aliexpress aren't and probably couldn't care less.
I feel sorry for them actually. They're trying to sell a decent watch and you're having a hee haw fest over it.
I think it's just me, but it seems different enough to justify the "original" on the dial...the outer edge, the sub dial are both differnet enough...the markers,indecies,numeral are bigger and a slight improvement to my eyes to the nomos...I like it tbh...would i buy one...NO! but, its not something i can see myself wearingnoften enough...great video as always though and certainly gets the hits,likes and comments flowing eh
What a fantastic review! I would love to have a watch that Jody roasted. Looking at that dial will remind me of his lite harded chuckle and bleeped out f-bomb.😂
Love your content bro. So enjoyable to witness your passion for watches. You’re the guy I tribute to my newest hobby…and the guy I throw under the bus when my wife wonders where my newest watch came from.
An Original Nomos Tangente copy......It does look quite nice. Much thicker than a real Nomos though. I'm a bit on the fence with Nomos's designs. I guess this could get you trying on the style and seeing if it works without spending a lot of money. I still wouldn't buy it though! :)
Update: Newer models look exactly the same, but replaced the word "original" for "automatic" using the same lovely font. I'm seriously thinking about acquiring a Seestern automatic, because automatic is no crime. 😂 All in all getting such a cute model with mechanic movement, a decent leather band and sapphire crystal for that price range is a no-brainer imo
I wish you can make a review on seagull bauhaus 34mm ref, 819.17.6091l.
looking quite pretty but couldn't found a reviews on RUclips
Jody you're early! No complaints here. I love a good typo haha
Perhaps they could take out the last two letters AL and Seestern could claim "The point or place where something begins" Just got to love the confused anachronisms with Chinese products. Would love to be a fly on the wall in the marketing department!
Can’t wait for you to review the Pagani Original ……😂
... and Jody drops an F-bomb. Worth every second of the video. It was Original!
Cheers 🍻 from northern California 👍🏻
I had to order one. I will need an aftermarket strap to fit my 8.25 inch wrist.
That is a shame it is pretty good looking. I bought a Chinese watch for a laugh because the make was Sewar.😂
Oh no lol
With a closed caseback, I would buy it :) The originality stands in the luminova LOL
LOL! Fun roast video Jody! Now go after Pagani Design... I don't think they do any design at all.... lol!
You got the right," seriously," what joke 🤣 bummer next? I would it change the dial ,everything else spot on zise, dimensions, to bad.. thanks again for sharing your thoughts on this miss Opurtunity..until next time.
It’s a handsome watch. I’d have no problem wearing it, but for my preference for heritage pieces.
Honestly this watch would be great for my 11 year old stepson as a step up from the Swatches he wears; I don’t think he would care about the word on the dial and he likes looking at the movement. So “ehh.”
Pretty cool really
Not original, but nice. :)
Your bleeping commentary on this one had me rolling. And if Seestern is reading the comments, I adore Bauhaus design and would definitely have bought this watch....had the word 'Original' been left off the dial. One, its totally inappropriate given the design of the watch, and two, Bauhaus is about minimalism, so as little text on the dial as possible should have been the approach. In my case, this is a $100+ lost opportunity Seestern..
Nice watch. Except for the epic fail on the dial. At least they spelled Original correctly! Reminds me of how much I love your vids! This one left me wanting more. Just too short!
maybe they wanted to use irony as a tool of marketing, if it is irony. it says official on the back too. the strap went well with the dial.
At least Seestern didn’t misspell “original”. I guess only watch enthusiasts would know that they ripped off a Nomos design, no one else would know or care. Otherwise it’s a nice watch…
I like Bauhaus, would buy a nomes homage, but but the cursive script is the total let down for Bauhauss
It looks like they've just changed the "original" to "automatic" on the images on their aliexpress store, might actually pick one up now 😂
I can't see where it really matters. They are already copying someone else's watch and many of us happily purchase these Ali Express homages without any guilt, so what difference does it make what it says on the dial.
A well deserved roasting and a lightning fast review of the ‘original’ too. Full marks from me Jody… sorry what? No no not the watch, the roasting 🔥🔥🔥
Were it not for that one word, the watch does look decent for the money. I’ll save my pennies for something else, however, and be happier with the result.
If they do this and a closed case back I will purchase 2 of them immediately. ❤
The normal sized lugs justifies the existence of this watch over the Nomos.
Cheers for the feature, Jody. ;)
I have more of a problem with "Seestern" I can't get the image of a Mexican lavatory out of my head.
"Ey señor plumber ...I have problem with my seestern, it no flush!"
Well done Jody. Down to £85 today - even more affordable. Ah, the power 😂👍
If it did not have the word original on it, I might have bought one as I don't have a dress watch anymore as the one I had broke.
Maybe the model line is the Original. Like the Speedmaster, or the Submariner. The Seestern Original.
There a lot of chinese watches I like that I seldom pull the trigger on because of the name and/or logo. Case in point "Hroudland", "Poedagar", "Berny (all I can think of is 'weekend at Bernie's')", etc. It feels like these watch companies just threw some scrabble tiles in a velvet bag, picked out some consonants and vowels and Viola! Our new watch company!
That's "voilà" since we're at the subject of putting together random letters :)