Romans 1:26-27 The New Revised Standard Version: "For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error."
The Updated Edition has actually improves the translation of these verses by changing "women" to "females" and "men" to "males," reflecting the fact that these words are the same terms used in Genesis 1.27 LXX when it says that "male and female he created them."
Romans 1:26-27 NRSVue: _"For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Their females exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the males, giving up natural intercourse with females, were consumed with their passionate desires for one another. Males committed shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error."_
There's more time spent trying to explain away the bible's condemnation of homosexuality (even in this update) than discussion of the new update itself. Is this journalism?
sorry for the late reply, it's because this is one of the most scrutinized verses in the whole bible, especially when it comes to the bible and its thoughts on homosexuality. there reason why there is a lot of controversy around this is because those people look only towards ones that fx. translate as "homosexuality" and bring it up but in reality, you can translate it one of 18 ways. there is no true word for this except that malakoi's closest approximation is "submissive" and arsenokoitai's closest approximation is... unclear. but defenitely not referring to homosexuality. because paul enjoyed coining a lot of terms to better explain his opinions, supposedly in the entire writings of his he coined over 250 words, most of which are completely ambiguous just because he used them once and never again.
if this is the word of god, then what right does anything of creation especially mankind, have to edit the word of god! fun fact the Qur'An the muslim holy book is the word of God and has never been edited even once. i recommend you find out for yourselves and also recommend you read it.... and im quite sure the Qur'An is the most read book in the world given Muslims read from it from memory in every prayer
Back in the 1600’s God saw to it that the certain scriptures were translated into English “KJ bible” and was put into print so that all could read for themselves the truth that is HIDDEN in the scriptures. God did this because he knew that he would bring about this powerful nation [U.S.A. and the English language] of ours to lead the world. The scriptures were written by apostles and prophets inspired by God through the Holy Ghost. The compilation and translation to English was also done by the direction of God through the Holy Ghost and he did not make any mistakes, i.e., the fourth horse being “pale” was no mistake, the horse is not green. In Greek mythology, the name Chloris (Khloris Χλωρίς, from khloros χλωρός, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh") appears... Pallid 1. pale; faint or deficient in color; wan: a pallid countenance. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV) This following verse is not saying that God didn't want a fancy carved altar. You have to look at the principle of the statement. When man tries to improve on Gods work he defiles it and makes it a lie. 25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. Ex 20:25 (KJV) And Rev 22:18-19 (KJV) has that same principle. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. When you change words you change meaning. King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS) 16 And he causeth all, both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand , or IN their foreheads: 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark ON their right hand or ON their forehead, King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS) 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding COUNT the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding CALCULATE the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six. May God have mercy on his children. Amen
God's Timeline “Why didn’t the disciples know that Jesus could feed the 4,000 after he had fed the 5,000 in the previous chapter?” Matt 15:33 (KJV) The so called “Christian” leaders of today teach that it is because they didn’t have faith. But the fact is that anyone involved in such a miracle and still skeptical would not only remember it but would be anxious for a similar situation to arise and prove it one way or the other. The discrepancy is put there to prod those with eyes to see (those sincere in search of truth) to investigate. The answer is given in the 16th chapter where Jesus speaks of the leaven of the Pharisees. Matt 16:6-12 (KJV). If that bread were literal then the disciples had every reason to believe that Jesus was being literal about the leaven and he therefore had no reason to chide them. But that bread being symbolic he chided them for not considering and taking to heart his teachings even after the third time of bringing up the subject. That teaching is what you are reading now. The bible (KJV) says that Jesus followed no will of his own but the will of God. John 6:38 (KJV) His life in the flesh is an ensample (representation) of God's laws. Jesus says that bread represents his flesh (his life) which in turn represents God's law (the bread of life). John 6:51 (KJV) Jesus’ death gave us the New Testament. Matt 26:28 (KJV) and Heb 9:16 (KJV) The New Testament brings meat to the scriptures, represented by the two fishes. The meat is the symbolic code and patterns that bring/bind all scripture in the bible (KJV) together. Heb 5:12-14 (KJV) It has been 2 thousand years since Jesus, so each fish represents 1 thousand years. In turn the five loaves of bread represent 5 thousand years that God gave his laws to man. 21 And they that had eaten were about FIVE THOUSAND men,…Matt 14:21 (KJV) This gives us a glimpse of Gods timeline. 7 thousand years ago Adam was kicked out of the garden. It also shows us that we are at the end of our time on this earth; 13 … and in the earthquake were slain of men SEVEN THOUSAND: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:13 (KJV) What does all this prove? It proves that the stories in the bible (KJV) aren’t meant to be taken literally, per se. Also different parts of the hidden truths and patterns are written by different authors hundreds and thousands of years apart show that the bible (KJV) is the preserved word of God orchestrated, compiled, and translated by him and the Holy Ghost. It tells us that the bible speaks of itself and that it is for OUR admonition. 4 Neither give heed to FABLES and ENDLESS GENEALOGIES…1 Tim 1:4 (KJV) It tells us its message is hidden in the fables, parables, and stories through symbolism. And above all it gives us a major key in unlocking the hidden timeline and agenda of God. It tells us that the following verse is meant to be taken as literal. 2 Peter 3:8 (KJV) So taking 2 Peter 3:8 (KJV) as literal tells us that each creation day is 1k years. 5 .... And the evening and the morning were the first day. Gen 1:5 (KJV) Another thing that shows the creation days are 1k yrs. is if you take the phrase “the evening and the morning” and do a search verbatim of the whole bible (KJV) the only verse that comes up other than the creation days is; Dan 8:26 (KJV) There is no way the events of the vision it speaks of could happen in one 24 hour period. Okay now to get down to it. When you make the creation days 1k yrs. long you will notice there is a big problem. There is no way that plants (created on the third day) could live 1k yrs. without the sun (created on the fourth day). The only way for this to work is to switch the third day with the fourth day. And you can’t just switch verses at your leisure; you need to get permission first. That permission is in the book of Revelation with the seven seals, (a pattern of symbols that REVEAL the second week of Gods timeline, the time of man's dominion). Remember we are looking to move the 3rd day. So when you look at the 3rd seal we read; Rev 6:5-6 (KJV) Balances are symbolic of the weighing of two things (choices). It’s giving us a choice, “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny;” And in that choice it warns us, “and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” not to spoil the flow of things in your choice. So when we switch the 3rd and 4th days we see a definite pattern (a flow). On day 1 you have the one earth with no life created. On day 2 God splits the earth in two, still no life created. On day 3 God creates the sun and the moon and it is mentioned! that he also created the stars. Three cosmic entities, No life created. On day 4 God creates plants. One form of life created. On day 5 God creates fish and fowl. Two forms of life created. On day 6 God creates cattle, creeper, and beast. Three forms of life created. One would argue that man was also created on the 6th day making it four forms of life. But a cow is a beast, the redundancy put there again to prod those with eyes to see to investigate. When we go to Matt 25:31-46 (KJV), we see that sheep are used to represent the righteous and goats are used to represent the sinner. When we go to Ezek 34:17 we see God judging between cattle and cattle and between rams (the righteous) and goats (the sinners) making cattle represent the only ones left the innocent. Not because they didn’t do anything wrong but because at the creation they didn’t know of God’s laws. Therefore three forms of life created on the 6th day, man (cattle), creeper, and beast. And we can go further with this creation of man. In Gen 5:2 (KJV) God calls “their” name Adam, meaning more than one. When we go to Rev 17:15 (KJV) we see that waters are used to represent peoples, and when we go to Gen 2:11-14 (KJV) we see the creation of the four races of man represented by the four rivers. And this story of the creation of the four races is only given once, which means that the story of Noah’s flood is fable also. So when we go to 2 Peter 3:5-6 (KJV) when it speaks of the earth being overflowed with water it is speaking of the earth in the first day of creation. It also mentions that there was life on it before it was overflowed, similar to a vivarium, or a prep-station. Let's do a recap: God overflows the earth with water, then after 500 years of darkness (called the evening) God says (speaking to the heavenly host) “let there be light” or to paraphrase [lets go to work]. Then for 500 years (called the morning) God and the heavenly host start setting the foundations of the earth, such as putting the continents and their rich resources in strategic places. Then God lets the earth settle for 500 years, being the evening of the second day. Then the morning of the second day God splits the earth in two. Then 1k years later he creates the sun and the moon and like I said it is mentioned that he created the stars also, not necessarily in that 1k year day. Then 1k years later he creates plant life, 1k years later fish and fowl, 1k years later man (cattle), creeper, and beast. And God and the heavenly host rested from physical labor the last day of the first week of God’s timeline. An observation of note, water is an accelerant of decay, and the earth was overflowed with water for 3,500 years. And the calibrations of calibrations that need to be calibrated before an accurate reading can be given make carbon dating iffy at best. But no matter, just because you know the age of something doesn’t mean you know its history. Just because something is buried in 70,000 year old mud doesn’t make that thing 70,000 years old. Just as it took 7 one thousand year days for the creation, God allotted 7 one thousand year days for man's dominion on this earth (the seven seals).
I'm a History student. It is common knowledge that there were *several* competing versions of the Quran in circulation until the reign of Caliph Uthman, who authorized a specific version and sought the destruction of the others - though this was unsuccessful, as Islamic sources themselves attest to *15* primary versions of the Quran and numerous other secondary versions, with *real and substantial* differences that were in circulation and use alongside Uthman's version for at least 300 years after he was dead and buried.
Also, do you not understand the concept of a translation? The original Biblical texts are in Hebrew and Greek. This is an update to an *English translation*, making changes to try to make the translation more accurate and better convey the meaning of the original Hebrew and Greek texts.
10:25 That translation will make sense if you blatantly ignore what's in older books. By that illogical sense, you can assume that relationships wasn't just between two males, but between a man and a male CHILD. Suppose we should all be catholic priest then. There are two different words used for servant in this story in Mattityahu and Lukas. The common meaning between both is servant. Not implied sexual partner and not child. I read an NRSV Bible years ago. Never read a bible with so much conflict with itself. If this is your go to book.... You're in for a rude awakening.
Yep! Translate it as "partner" with every Greek Orthodox Priest raising their eyebrow and the LGBT community will leap on that to make it mean whatever they want it to...that is what this allows for...
The bible is quite clear on homosexuality, that verse was meant to be there in the original, no distinction was made and asserting one would be the very bias you talked just before I simply dont believe in the bible at all... but wether you like it or not , that verse is part of the bible
The issue isn't that the verse is in the Bible, since various passages in the Bible are directed toward certain groups in certain contexts and aren't necessarily universal. In fact, it's part of the Law of Moses, so the immediate assumption would be that it doesn't apply to non-Jews. You won't see too many Christians insisting that they can't eat shellfish, for instance, since Leviticus 11 is directed only toward Israelites. The problem is that Leviticus 18.26 restricts foreigners residing in Israel from committing the acts described in the chapter (which also include incest, bestiality, and child sacrifice, among other things). And because that's the case, the New Testament author Paul takes the position that these laws still apply to Gentile converts to Christianity, even though he usually argues that the regulations laid out in the Law of Moses don't apply to Gentiles. So there's more nuance to it than simply saying that the verse is in the Bible, but the context of the verse and its subsequent interpretation by later Biblical texts does make it a hard one to explain away. The only two reasonable approaches are the following: either say that the Bible is simply wrong here (possibly chalking it up to flawed human biases distorting the divine message) or argue that this restriction has been lifted since the time of the New Testament (which would have to be demonstrated with evidence of some kind). I personally consider the second option to be more viable, but it's fairly tricky unless you're part of a specific faith tradition that claims to receive revelations in the present day. (At that point, it's merely a matter of appealing to a prophecy that your group insists that it has received.) The strongest non-revelatory evidence would probably be the devotion and sincerity of LGBT Christians in the present day, which might stand as a testimony of God's choice to work through them rather than rejecting them.
@@MAMoreno It is in the same passages of why Man should not have sex with animals. Surely, you believe that holds up today as well. Whether you like it or not the Scripture is very clear on the rejection of homosexuality. When you hear these lectures, "It's only these 6 (or 7) passages." Only 6 or 7? That is a lot more than 1 or 2. Think also of the passive elements. Relationships are always addressed as a hetero-normative expression. Trying to water down Scripture to either support or simply not condemn general homosexuality is someone being dishonest with themselves.
Back in the 1600’s God saw to it that the certain scriptures were translated into English “KJ bible” and was put into print so that all could read for themselves the truth that is HIDDEN in the scriptures. God did this because he knew that he would bring about this powerful nation [U.S.A. and the English language] of ours to lead the world. The scriptures were written by apostles and prophets inspired by God through the Holy Ghost. The compilation and translation to English was also done by the direction of God through the Holy Ghost and he did not make any mistakes, i.e., the fourth horse being “pale” was no mistake, the horse is not green. In Greek mythology, the name Chloris (Khloris Χλωρίς, from khloros χλωρός, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh") appears... Pallid 1. pale; faint or deficient in color; wan: a pallid countenance. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV) This following verse is not saying that God didn't want a fancy carved altar. You have to look at the principle of the statement. When man tries to improve on Gods work he defiles it and makes it a lie. 25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. Ex 20:25 (KJV) And Rev 22:18-19 (KJV) has that same principle. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. When you change words you change meaning. King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS) 16 And he causeth all, both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand , or IN their foreheads: 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark ON their right hand or ON their forehead, King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS) 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding COUNT the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding CALCULATE the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six. May God have mercy on his children. Amen
If you believe that the bible is the word of god , then you simply cant remove a verse that you dont like or makes you feel "not included" I simply dont believe that the bible is the word of god... I have no reason to believe a god exists , and I have no reason to believe the bible is of supernatural origin , unless proven otherwise
I understand that feelings do matter, but when you are "translating" the Bible in regards to feelings and not to truth, I want nothing to do with it.
Go back and read the codices then
Good show, I agree with the nuance on the trouble about interpretation of translation where context is very important.
Romans 1:26-27
The New Revised Standard Version:
"For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error."
The Updated Edition has actually improves the translation of these verses by changing "women" to "females" and "men" to "males," reflecting the fact that these words are the same terms used in Genesis 1.27 LXX when it says that "male and female he created them."
The NRSV and NRSVu are great translations. The anchor cannot read into it what he wants the text to say for they are scholarly works.
Romans 1:26-27
NRSVue:
_"For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Their females exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the males, giving up natural intercourse with females, were consumed with their passionate desires for one another. Males committed shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error."_
Actually, it does equate lesbian acts with the same shame as same sex male relations. (Romans 1:26)
Exactly what I was thinking... Romans 1 isn't just one verse but an entire passage talking about it.
There's more time spent trying to explain away the bible's condemnation of homosexuality (even in this update) than discussion of the new update itself. Is this journalism?
sorry for the late reply, it's because this is one of the most scrutinized verses in the whole bible, especially when it comes to the bible and its thoughts on homosexuality.
there reason why there is a lot of controversy around this is because those people look only towards ones that fx. translate as "homosexuality" and bring it up but in reality, you can translate it one of 18 ways. there is no true word for this except that malakoi's closest approximation is "submissive" and arsenokoitai's closest approximation is... unclear. but defenitely not referring to homosexuality. because paul enjoyed coining a lot of terms to better explain his opinions, supposedly in the entire writings of his he coined over 250 words, most of which are completely ambiguous just because he used them once and never again.
In Hosea 1:2 the RSV uses the word harlotry instead of whoredom which the NRSV uses. And maid instead of servant girl.
"Girl" and "woman" are not synonyms, nor are they interchangeable in translation. I can't believe he's very competent in Hebrew if he thinks that.
Gay agenda?
if this is the word of god, then what right does anything of creation especially mankind, have to edit the word of god!
fun fact the Qur'An the muslim holy book is the word of God and has never been edited even once. i recommend you find out for yourselves and also recommend you read it.... and im quite sure the Qur'An is the most read book in the world given Muslims read from it from memory in every prayer
Relax
Back in the 1600’s God saw to it that the certain scriptures were translated into English “KJ bible” and was put into print so that all could read for themselves the truth that is HIDDEN in the scriptures. God did this because he knew that he would bring about this powerful nation [U.S.A. and the English language] of ours to lead the world.
The scriptures were written by apostles and prophets inspired by God through the Holy Ghost. The compilation and translation to English was also done by the direction of God through the Holy Ghost and he did not make any mistakes, i.e., the fourth horse being “pale” was no mistake, the horse is not green.
In Greek mythology, the name Chloris (Khloris Χλωρίς, from khloros χλωρός, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh") appears...
Pallid
1. pale; faint or deficient in color; wan: a pallid countenance.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV)
This following verse is not saying that God didn't want a fancy carved altar. You have to look at the principle of the statement. When man tries to improve on Gods work he defiles it and makes it a lie.
25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
Ex 20:25 (KJV)
And Rev 22:18-19 (KJV) has that same principle.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
When you change words you change meaning.
King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand , or IN their foreheads: 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark ON their right hand or ON their forehead,
King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS)
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding COUNT the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding CALCULATE the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
May God have mercy on his children. Amen
God's Timeline
“Why didn’t the disciples know that Jesus could feed the 4,000 after he had fed the 5,000 in the previous chapter?” Matt 15:33 (KJV)
The so called “Christian” leaders of today teach that it is because they didn’t have faith. But the fact is that anyone involved in such a miracle and still skeptical would not only remember it but would be anxious for a similar situation to arise and prove it one way or the other. The discrepancy is put there to prod those with eyes to see (those sincere in search of truth) to investigate.
The answer is given in the 16th chapter where Jesus speaks of the leaven of the Pharisees.
Matt 16:6-12 (KJV).
If that bread were literal then the disciples had every reason to believe that Jesus was being literal about the leaven and he therefore had no reason to chide them. But that bread being symbolic he chided them for not considering and taking to heart his teachings even after the third time of bringing up the subject. That teaching is what you are reading now.
The bible (KJV) says that Jesus followed no will of his own but the will of God.
John 6:38 (KJV)
His life in the flesh is an ensample (representation) of God's laws. Jesus says that bread represents his flesh (his life) which in turn represents God's law (the bread of life).
John 6:51 (KJV)
Jesus’ death gave us the New Testament. Matt 26:28 (KJV) and Heb 9:16 (KJV)
The New Testament brings meat to the scriptures, represented by the two fishes.
The meat is the symbolic code and patterns that bring/bind all scripture in the bible (KJV) together. Heb 5:12-14 (KJV)
It has been 2 thousand years since Jesus, so each fish represents 1 thousand years. In turn the five loaves of bread represent 5 thousand years that God gave his laws to man.
21 And they that had eaten were about FIVE THOUSAND men,…Matt 14:21 (KJV)
This gives us a glimpse of Gods timeline. 7 thousand years ago Adam was kicked out of the garden. It also shows us that we are at the end of our time on this earth;
13 … and in the earthquake were slain of men SEVEN THOUSAND: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. Rev 11:13 (KJV)
What does all this prove? It proves that the stories in the bible (KJV) aren’t meant to be taken literally, per se. Also different parts of the hidden truths and patterns are written by different authors hundreds and thousands of years apart show that the bible (KJV) is the preserved word of God orchestrated, compiled, and translated by him and the Holy Ghost.
It tells us that the bible speaks of itself and that it is for OUR admonition.
4 Neither give heed to FABLES and ENDLESS GENEALOGIES…1 Tim 1:4 (KJV)
It tells us its message is hidden in the fables, parables, and stories through symbolism.
And above all it gives us a major key in unlocking the hidden timeline and agenda of God. It tells us that the following verse is meant to be taken as literal. 2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
So taking 2 Peter 3:8 (KJV) as literal tells us that each creation day is 1k years.
5 .... And the evening and the morning were the first day. Gen 1:5 (KJV)
Another thing that shows the creation days are 1k yrs. is if you take the phrase “the evening and the morning” and do a search verbatim of the whole bible (KJV) the only verse that comes up other than the creation days is; Dan 8:26 (KJV) There is no way the events of the vision it speaks of could happen in one 24 hour period.
Okay now to get down to it. When you make the creation days 1k yrs. long you will notice there is a big problem. There is no way that plants (created on the third day) could live 1k yrs. without the sun (created on the fourth day). The only way for this to work is to switch the third day with the fourth day. And you can’t just switch verses at your leisure; you need to get permission first. That permission is in the book of Revelation with the seven seals, (a pattern of symbols that REVEAL the second week of Gods timeline, the time of man's dominion). Remember we are looking to move the 3rd day. So when you look at the 3rd seal we read; Rev 6:5-6 (KJV)
Balances are symbolic of the weighing of two things (choices). It’s giving us a choice, “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny;” And in that choice it warns us, “and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” not to spoil the flow of things in your choice.
So when we switch the 3rd and 4th days we see a definite pattern (a flow).
On day 1 you have the one earth with no life created.
On day 2 God splits the earth in two, still no life created.
On day 3 God creates the sun and the moon and it is mentioned! that he also created the stars. Three cosmic entities, No life created.
On day 4 God creates plants. One form of life created.
On day 5 God creates fish and fowl. Two forms of life created.
On day 6 God creates cattle, creeper, and beast. Three forms of life created.
One would argue that man was also created on the 6th day making it four forms of life.
But a cow is a beast, the redundancy put there again to prod those with eyes to see to investigate. When we go to Matt 25:31-46 (KJV), we see that sheep are used to represent the righteous and goats are used to represent the sinner. When we go to Ezek 34:17 we see God judging between cattle and cattle and between rams (the righteous) and goats (the sinners) making cattle represent the only ones left the innocent. Not because they didn’t do anything wrong but because at the creation they didn’t know of God’s laws.
Therefore three forms of life created on the 6th day, man (cattle), creeper, and beast.
And we can go further with this creation of man. In Gen 5:2 (KJV) God calls “their” name Adam, meaning more than one. When we go to Rev 17:15 (KJV) we see that waters are used to represent peoples, and when we go to Gen 2:11-14 (KJV) we see the creation of the four races of man represented by the four rivers.
And this story of the creation of the four races is only given once, which means that the story of Noah’s flood is fable also. So when we go to 2 Peter 3:5-6 (KJV) when it speaks of the earth being overflowed with water it is speaking of the earth in the first day of creation. It also mentions that there was life on it before it was overflowed, similar to a vivarium, or a prep-station.
Let's do a recap:
God overflows the earth with water, then after 500 years of darkness (called the evening) God says (speaking to the heavenly host) “let there be light” or to paraphrase [lets go to work]. Then for 500 years (called the morning) God and the heavenly host start setting the foundations of the earth, such as putting the continents and their rich resources in strategic places. Then God lets the earth settle for 500 years, being the evening of the second day. Then the morning of the second day God splits the earth in two. Then 1k years later he creates the sun and the moon and like I said it is mentioned that he created the stars also, not necessarily in that 1k year day. Then 1k years later he creates plant life, 1k years later fish and fowl, 1k years later man (cattle), creeper, and beast. And God and the heavenly host rested from physical labor the last day of the first week of God’s timeline.
An observation of note, water is an accelerant of decay, and the earth was overflowed with water for 3,500 years. And the calibrations of calibrations that need to be calibrated before an accurate reading can be given make carbon dating iffy at best. But no matter, just because you know the age of something doesn’t mean you know its history. Just because something is buried in 70,000 year old mud doesn’t make that thing 70,000 years old.
Just as it took 7 one thousand year days for the creation, God allotted 7 one thousand year days for man's dominion on this earth (the seven seals).
May God have mercy on his children. Amen
I'm a History student. It is common knowledge that there were *several* competing versions of the Quran in circulation until the reign of Caliph Uthman, who authorized a specific version and sought the destruction of the others - though this was unsuccessful, as Islamic sources themselves attest to *15* primary versions of the Quran and numerous other secondary versions, with *real and substantial* differences that were in circulation and use alongside Uthman's version for at least 300 years after he was dead and buried.
Also, do you not understand the concept of a translation? The original Biblical texts are in Hebrew and Greek. This is an update to an *English translation*, making changes to try to make the translation more accurate and better convey the meaning of the original Hebrew and Greek texts.
It’s painful to listen to a learnèd man trying to obviate what he knows a text is saying!
10:25
That translation will make sense if you blatantly ignore what's in older books. By that illogical sense, you can assume that relationships wasn't just between two males, but between a man and a male CHILD. Suppose we should all be catholic priest then.
There are two different words used for servant in this story in Mattityahu and Lukas. The common meaning between both is servant. Not implied sexual partner and not child.
I read an NRSV Bible years ago. Never read a bible with so much conflict with itself. If this is your go to book.... You're in for a rude awakening.
Yep! Translate it as "partner" with every Greek Orthodox Priest raising their eyebrow and the LGBT community will leap on that to make it mean whatever they want it to...that is what this allows for...
This news achor can't even talk straight.
I hope the story of Sodom and Gomorra will have a happy ending🗿
It won’t…
The bible is quite clear on homosexuality, that verse was meant to be there in the original, no distinction was made and asserting one would be the very bias you talked just before
I simply dont believe in the bible at all...
but wether you like it or not , that verse is part of the bible
The issue isn't that the verse is in the Bible, since various passages in the Bible are directed toward certain groups in certain contexts and aren't necessarily universal. In fact, it's part of the Law of Moses, so the immediate assumption would be that it doesn't apply to non-Jews. You won't see too many Christians insisting that they can't eat shellfish, for instance, since Leviticus 11 is directed only toward Israelites.
The problem is that Leviticus 18.26 restricts foreigners residing in Israel from committing the acts described in the chapter (which also include incest, bestiality, and child sacrifice, among other things). And because that's the case, the New Testament author Paul takes the position that these laws still apply to Gentile converts to Christianity, even though he usually argues that the regulations laid out in the Law of Moses don't apply to Gentiles.
So there's more nuance to it than simply saying that the verse is in the Bible, but the context of the verse and its subsequent interpretation by later Biblical texts does make it a hard one to explain away. The only two reasonable approaches are the following: either say that the Bible is simply wrong here (possibly chalking it up to flawed human biases distorting the divine message) or argue that this restriction has been lifted since the time of the New Testament (which would have to be demonstrated with evidence of some kind).
I personally consider the second option to be more viable, but it's fairly tricky unless you're part of a specific faith tradition that claims to receive revelations in the present day. (At that point, it's merely a matter of appealing to a prophecy that your group insists that it has received.) The strongest non-revelatory evidence would probably be the devotion and sincerity of LGBT Christians in the present day, which might stand as a testimony of God's choice to work through them rather than rejecting them.
Despite your hostility towards Nature, at least you have the integrity to validate original content meaning. What does this mean? More accountability.
@@MAMoreno It is in the same passages of why Man should not have sex with animals. Surely, you believe that holds up today as well. Whether you like it or not the Scripture is very clear on the rejection of homosexuality. When you hear these lectures, "It's only these 6 (or 7) passages." Only 6 or 7? That is a lot more than 1 or 2. Think also of the passive elements. Relationships are always addressed as a hetero-normative expression. Trying to water down Scripture to either support or simply not condemn general homosexuality is someone being dishonest with themselves.
Back in the 1600’s God saw to it that the certain scriptures were translated into English “KJ bible” and was put into print so that all could read for themselves the truth that is HIDDEN in the scriptures. God did this because he knew that he would bring about this powerful nation [U.S.A. and the English language] of ours to lead the world.
The scriptures were written by apostles and prophets inspired by God through the Holy Ghost. The compilation and translation to English was also done by the direction of God through the Holy Ghost and he did not make any mistakes, i.e., the fourth horse being “pale” was no mistake, the horse is not green.
In Greek mythology, the name Chloris (Khloris Χλωρίς, from khloros χλωρός, meaning "greenish-yellow," "pale green," "pale," "pallid" or "fresh") appears...
Pallid
1. pale; faint or deficient in color; wan: a pallid countenance.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV)
This following verse is not saying that God didn't want a fancy carved altar. You have to look at the principle of the statement. When man tries to improve on Gods work he defiles it and makes it a lie.
25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
Ex 20:25 (KJV)
And Rev 22:18-19 (KJV) has that same principle.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
When you change words you change meaning.
King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand , or IN their foreheads: 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark ON their right hand or ON their forehead,
King James Version (KJV) New American Standard (NAS)
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding COUNT the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding CALCULATE the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
May God have mercy on his children. Amen
An honest Translation is not bad. Unfortunately, the NRSV is not an honest translation.
Lmaoo
GOD'S word??? You keep on add verses and delete verse!
If you believe that the bible is the word of god , then you simply cant remove a verse that you dont like or makes you feel "not included"
I simply dont believe that the bible is the word of god... I have no reason to believe a god exists , and I have no reason to believe the bible is of supernatural origin , unless proven otherwise
@@mariolis You sound like a former Christian Evangelical who blames bad religious experiences for their rejection of God.