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Longer string gives more momentum to the suspended load which causes more instability than a shorter string. Hanging the mechanism off the back of the legs puts the CG far aft and causes the rear motors to work far harder than the front which then becomes the limiting factor for lift capability. Centered under the drone will give more even distribution of the load to the motors and propellers thus maximizing lift capability.
Added weight, lower flight time, more wear and tear on the motors, CG off. This machine was not designed to carry any other payload except for its onboard camera.
The only way to improve and innovate is to push what is currently known and accepted. We wouldn't have quadcopters in the first place if it wasn't for people using technology past its original design.
Cool vid! Question: are there larger propellers that could be put on the drone to make lifting easier? Just curious if you knew of any aftermarket for that.
The length of the propellers are designed specifically for the drone. If you were to use larger (longer) propellers they would collide with each other.
The independent radio remote is nice, but I have concerns about the weight of the payload release system the loose mounting system the off-center loading
Billy you're awesome but you're killing me. Your concern was how loose the bracket is. I actually know something you don't. That's a compliment though. What I did was I took a heat gun, not a hair dryer because it's not hot enough. I took a pair of pliers and gently put them on the four hook ons of the bracket. Being careful I heated the clips until they started to get soft. The pliers keep my hands from getting burned. Gently I rounded the clips to make them tighter. It worked perfectly the bracket is plenty tight enough it does not move around even when a weight is added to the drop mechanism. You should try this then add it to your video because it completely solves the problem and you don't have to be hassled with zip ties once again you're awesome
Useful capabilities are definitely there, I just think the technology has to get a little bit better. That’s why wot now people are dropping beer and stuff
Billy, I think if you was to put some O-rings or rubber bands on the bottom landing gear of the Phantom up against the bracket it would keep it from sliding when picking up objects. Just my thoughts. Thanks, Jeremy
im looking for a smal case/ box, first i thought when i saw your video is that the case is open like a smal box, wow. but...it was not...smh. my question, is there a company who sell this what you have but like a box to open for a sandwich or keys or some small to travel or delivering to neighboors...thanks - another question, is the whole box holding the electronic ?...
first thing i thought of was sneaky waterballoon pranks but then i realized its probably illegal to drop on actual person but maybe a test to see it work.this is a great video Billy!!!people are really interested in mods and features so keep it up we look forward to your vids!!
Cool find for the phantom, I figured it was gunna be pricey but $250 kinda surprised even me. I agree with some of your other fans who left comments, I can see a whole lot of fun stuff being hauled up a dropped from this system. As a retired firefighter/paramedic I can see several uses for this system, even if it was to just drop off water to a patient or person during a rescue, wilderness, mountain. lots of great or mischief reasons to have something cool like this. Good review and video Billy, quit college dude and do this full time, your really doing a good job.
I would say it stresses the motors, controllers,and battery. the mavic has prop enclosures that add more weight and cut flight time in half but there is a setting that lets the drone know that you are using them where as this may have the drone think there is an error because is not using power like it should. another vlogger tried and got a power overload error message.
Billy Kyle nice! Idk if this is your thing but I'd like so see a video based on your camera, the resolution, fps, auto focus ect, if it's not your thing don't sweat it haha!
The back two motors are spinning madly to do all the lifting. The front two two motors are just keeping the P4 level. You could carry more load if you let all four motors lift evenly but then your ability to use your camera to see the ground would be compromised. As far as the louder noise while lifting......bomber pilots flying decoy missions during WWII used to set with their engines to different rpms to purposely make them sound louder. They wanted the enemy believe this is a real mission and not just a few planes trying to mislead the enemy fighter pilots in the wrong direction.
Since we're on the subject, who's got one of these in Mendocino, California that can help me recover my Mavic Mini off a small island? Just crashed today and I'm feeling hopeless cuz it's extremely inaccessible.
Okay thanks for clarifying. Do you think you could use it to deliver money? BTW, i watch a lot of your videos. Nothing fancy and straight to the point. Good job, Billy.
Good job Billy with all your videos and keeping all of us up to date with everything. I also disagree with one of the comments someone left about doing this video opposed to a video about the Goggles which I'm sure we all want but near impossible to get at the moment. The pre-orders sold out right away. You can't do a video on something you don't have. Right? I just hope they will be easier to get when summer comes. Anyway keep up the great work and see you on the next video.
As far as I was aware - Dropping things from Drones is illegal in the UK... when I say illegal I think it's against CAA regulations. As a few of the comments note there are already dropping systems being put to good use with lifebelts being deployed on beaches and public lakes. However, the potential for misuse is enormous and something to be aware of...
Patrick Mika man you should just stay in your home shivering in fear. If this scares you I could show you things that would likely make you crawl under your bed every night.
Other than dropping and carrying shit cuz its cool is there any real world use for this? I thought maybe dropping wasp killer on a roof or something but other than that I can't really think of any.
None of the Phantom drones were designed or made to carry payloads. This puts a lot of unnecessary stress on the motors and could do major damage to the motors. This last week when I was at the show in Vegas I spoke to a DJI Rep about this subject and he backed this up 100%. DJI does make drones for lifting and carrying payloads, but not the Phantoms. I still enjoyed your video, Thumbs up!!
من فضلك ، نريد تجربة حول المسافة ، عدد الكيلومترات التي يمكنك الطيران والتحكم بها بهذا الوزن ، والذي نرغب ان يقدر بنحو 100 أو 150 جرام Please, we want an experiment about the distance, the number of kilometers you can fly and control with this weight, which we would like to estimate at 100 or 150 grams.
you mentioned the car noise, maybe look into audio compression. reduce any noise under 25-30 db or so. otherwise cool vid mate. I'd been wondering about this
Good Day Billy!!! A great use for this would be for Running Wire Antennas for HAM Radio, Just what I am Looking for... BUT (Big But) Way too Expensive for the Purpose... As HAM are generally cheap and it would be cheaper to make Remote Release for ALOT less, So off to Planning... Thank You for your Videos...
Now that's fun washing you act like the Loco Professor LOL....great job : ) Good use for this device is getting your surf fishing line out , no need casting?
Oh lord! Are you one of those people that supports laws banning things like this that will only serve to affect law abiding people like me that drone-fish? Just asking.
got a question for u. so i just bought p4p+. how often should i calibrate everything? imu gps n gimbal? i read somewhere in google that some ppl do it everytime they're about to fly. is that correct or not?
An IMU calibration before each flight would be a pain. Only do that when you notice your drone not flying properly. As for the gimbal, it wouldn't hurt. Maybe start the calibration and while it does its thing get some other stuff set up. It's not necessary but can help with some fine tuning if something seems off.
awesome thanks man. will watch the rest of p4p video tomorrow. thanks for the tip! would you do a video of color grading in premiere pro for drone? if possible... thanks.
Wow, actually lifted three pounds! Not going to try heavy drops like that! Too sketchy, the esc's could smoke-show on a guy, and down comes the phantom😩. Putting that many amps thru the battery would warm it up, real quick. Heat and electronics do NOT mix! Impressive illustration of the lifting capabilties, tho! I will be keeping all my drops under 400 grams. I made 4 emergency drops across a raging creek a couple days ago, and noticed a rapid discharge of the battery. Started with a full battery, and after 10 minutes of delivering the 4 packages, I landed at 52% battery left. The heaviest drop was 375 grams. Turned my " toy" into a practical tool, so I was pleased! I mounted my drop servo on a piece of light aluminum channel, that fits between the landing legs, when spread open. It sits below the camera, ahead of the downward facing sensors, center on the drone. All the motors and esc's share the same load this way. I thought this was safer and more stable. Seems to work good so far!
Billy Kyle Had an arthritis prescription, some mail, heritage seed order, and some large photos rolled up in a tube. Bagged ever drop with a plastic grocery bag, used the handles on the bags to thread thru the drop pin. Tying the bag seemed to help with the propwash.
Billy,After all the anticipation about the DJI Goggles I think it's somewhat funny that you haven't even mentioned them but instead are talking about stuff like this.lol
Too bad, the Phantom doesn't have an aux channel out. Otherwise one can just fabricate cargo carrier & a simple servo. Distance for this controller is too short for delivering water to stranded hiker etc.
Really wanted to see you put a camera to show your face, and release the 3 lb. weight. The reaction on your face as you try to compensate for the rapid weight loss as the drone flew to Saturn would have been classic. By the way, $250 is a f*ckin' ripoff.
No way!! I was thinking about it if it was 50 or 60 USD but $250? On the other hand, cool video. I would want to see more videos of you dropping fragile stuff from 400 feet, like a water ballon.
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Have you tested it in Sport Mode yet?
Billy Kyle hi
Now I can finally drop that rattlesnake in my neighbor's convertible. Thanks Billy!
😂😂😂😂😂
awesome. Prisons are going to love these.
Longer string gives more momentum to the suspended load which causes more instability than a shorter string.
Hanging the mechanism off the back of the legs puts the CG far aft and causes the rear motors to work far harder than the front which then becomes the limiting factor for lift capability. Centered under the drone will give more even distribution of the load to the motors and propellers thus maximizing lift capability.
Hey man, thanks for making these videos! It's great to know how far we can push our drones. :) - Cheers from Costa Rica. You're doing a great job.
Thanks Pablo!
Yes! This. I've been totally wanting to use my drone to deliver beer to my dad a few streets over ! Very awesome video awareness.
+The Chaos Rift 😂😂😂
Beer delivery
It could be great for fishing, drop the line and bait further than you can cast via the rod.
Added weight, lower flight time, more wear and tear on the motors, CG off. This machine was not designed to carry any other payload except for its onboard camera.
Agreed Hal, but it's fun to try.
I guess. 😊👍✨
The only way to improve and innovate is to push what is currently known and accepted. We wouldn't have quadcopters in the first place if it wasn't for people using technology past its original design.
if you can afford one of these i dont think you really care about wear and tear
Man this drop system would be great for drone surf-fishing
You should try lifting the objects with Sport Mode on and see how much better it does.
Great for dropping Molotov cocktails 🔥🍾
LOL
Cool vid! Question: are there larger propellers that could be put on the drone to make lifting easier? Just curious if you knew of any aftermarket for that.
The length of the propellers are designed specifically for the drone. If you were to use larger (longer) propellers they would collide with each other.
The independent radio remote is nice, but I have concerns about
the weight of the payload release system
the loose mounting system
the off-center loading
Billy you're awesome but you're killing me. Your concern was how loose the bracket is. I actually know something you don't. That's a compliment though. What I did was I took a heat gun, not a hair dryer because it's not hot enough. I took a pair of pliers and gently put them on the four hook ons of the bracket. Being careful I heated the clips until they started to get soft. The pliers keep my hands from getting burned. Gently I rounded the clips to make them tighter. It worked perfectly the bracket is plenty tight enough it does not move around even when a weight is added to the drop mechanism. You should try this then add it to your video because it completely solves the problem and you don't have to be hassled with zip ties once again you're awesome
Dope video!! Always wondered about this, anything for the mavic?? Keep up the good work!!
+Edgar Roacho Thanks Edgar! Not sure about the Mavic, have to do some looking
Billy Kyle www.dronefishing.com we have for all the Phantoms and the Mavic which by the way can lift over 700g
Congratulations excellent video! One question, what was the height above sea level in that place where you flew?
How about aerial seeding remote sites for reforestation? More useful than dropping beer or water?
Useful capabilities are definitely there, I just think the technology has to get a little bit better. That’s why wot now people are dropping beer and stuff
Billy,
I think if you was to put some O-rings or rubber bands on the bottom landing gear of the Phantom up against the bracket it would keep it from sliding when picking up objects. Just my thoughts.
Thanks, Jeremy
Good point Jeremy! Thank you
What is the range on that small remote? This looks like a good application to use on setting a fishing line way out past a sandbar from the beach.
im looking for a smal case/ box, first i thought when i saw your video is that the case is open like a smal box, wow. but...it was not...smh. my question, is there a company who sell this what you have but like a box to open for a sandwich or keys or some small to travel or delivering to neighboors...thanks - another question, is the whole box holding the electronic ?...
With the way your headed your probably going to be the best DJI channel out there
+Sky A. Cramer Thanks Sky! I'm tryin
first thing i thought of was sneaky waterballoon pranks but then i realized its probably illegal to drop on actual person but maybe a test to see it work.this is a great video Billy!!!people are really interested in mods and features so keep it up we look forward to your vids!!
Thanks Scott! The water ballon idea is genius! I might just have to drop one on myself lol
that we would like to see!!
How long can it fly with a payload? Will the motor even last an entire battery before burning out?
I have not done a full test, but the battery life will definitely be shorter
How far can it go from remote and still work?
Billy, u have this? I'm in a restaurant, so I really can't hear it too well, but what the heck would you do with this thing?
It seems like a lot of people want me to drop water balloons lol
Cool find for the phantom, I figured it was gunna be pricey but $250 kinda surprised even me. I agree with some of your other fans who left comments, I can see a whole lot of fun stuff being hauled up a dropped from this system. As a retired firefighter/paramedic I can see several uses for this system, even if it was to just drop off water to a patient or person during a rescue, wilderness, mountain. lots of great or mischief reasons to have something cool like this. Good review and video Billy, quit college dude and do this full time, your really doing a good job.
Don't tempt me, I already want to! Thanks for all of the support Doug!
When increasing payload to phantom, replacing plastic props with carbon fiber should reduce flexing while maintaining maximum thrust.
Any thoughts?
I think that is a great point. I have been looking into some carbon fiber props, still doing research to find out which ones are best.
I was wondering what kind of lift if any I don't own a Phantom 4 but my sights are set probably after a serious back surgery if recovery is good
I would say it stresses the motors, controllers,and battery. the mavic has prop enclosures that add more weight and cut flight time in half but there is a setting that lets the drone know that you are using them where as this may have the drone think there is an error because is not using power like it should. another vlogger tried and got a power overload error message.
Lift is easy, can you fly it out 500 yards and drop it, and have it come back?
Nice experiment. Greetings from NJ.
You're close to where I live! Thanks man
What camera do you have ? it's a great camera
+Gator Suarez Panasonic G7!
Billy Kyle nice! Idk if this is your thing but I'd like so see a video based on your camera, the resolution, fps, auto focus ect, if it's not your thing don't sweat it haha!
The back two motors are spinning madly to do all the lifting. The front two two motors are just keeping the P4 level. You could carry more load if you let all four motors lift evenly but then your ability to use your camera to see the ground would be compromised. As far as the louder noise while lifting......bomber pilots flying decoy missions during WWII used to set with their engines to different rpms to purposely make them sound louder. They wanted the enemy believe this is a real mission and not just a few planes trying to mislead the enemy fighter pilots in the wrong direction.
What range do you have on the release mechanism?
Finally, a solution for getting a leader line over the highest branch for raising a HAM radio longwire antenna.
Awsome video as usual, by the way, where is that beutiful country site?
In East Bradford Township. Are you familiar with the area?
Will the bracket fit a phantom 3 pro?
Nice video 👍
why did you not fly test the drone with the dubbell
+jackson 420R I flew up. Figured that would be enough
i thort if you flew it round for 5 min and compared battery life to a normal flight that would be good no probs anyway keep em comin
+jackson 420R Thanks Jackson! Next time I will try to be more thorough
Is it available in dji store...
please give me the link where you can buy it, greetings from Argentina
Since we're on the subject, who's got one of these in Mendocino, California that can help me recover my Mavic Mini off a small island? Just crashed today and I'm feeling hopeless cuz it's extremely inaccessible.
well the mounting bracket is made for the Phantom 3 series that is why it is loose
The edit at 1:39 was sick!
Great testing Billy. Great video
Thank you!
How do you get the box back though once it's dropped?
+WePilotDrones The box itself does not drop. A little bar moves out of the way which releases the string.
Okay thanks for clarifying. Do you think you could use it to deliver money? BTW, i watch a lot of your videos. Nothing fancy and straight to the point. Good job, Billy.
Thanks man! Definitely could deliver money, but may not be the safest option.
That's a heck of a range for a remote?
Good job Billy with all your videos and keeping all of us up to date with everything. I also disagree with one of the comments someone left about doing this video opposed to a video about the Goggles which I'm sure we all want but near impossible to get at the moment. The pre-orders sold out right away. You can't do a video on something you don't have. Right? I just hope they will be easier to get when summer comes. Anyway keep up the great work and see you on the next video.
Thanks Brian! I got lucky enough to get the goggles, hopefully they come soon
Hey Billy, Another great video, keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the comment John! Will do!
Your videos on the P4P really did help me alot before I hand the drone in my hands as a newbie 👍😉
That's the goal! Glad they helped
👍👍👍
As far as I was aware - Dropping things from Drones is illegal in the UK... when I say illegal I think it's against CAA regulations. As a few of the comments note there are already dropping systems being put to good use with lifebelts being deployed on beaches and public lakes. However, the potential for misuse is enormous and something to be aware of...
Patrick Mika man you should just stay in your home shivering in fear. If this scares you I could show you things that would likely make you crawl under your bed every night.
Well done.
Hey I'm James I'm delivering a 4lb object approximately 100 yards... Which payload release so you recommend....
Hello I'm from Uzbekistan
Bu dron qancha massali yuk ko'tara oladi
Other than dropping and carrying shit cuz its cool is there any real world use for this? I thought maybe dropping wasp killer on a roof or something but other than that I can't really think of any.
+Matthew Purcell The only thing I can think of is dropping things in emergency situations.
Pot delivery?
Matthew Purcell, use it to take you fishing line and bait further offshore.
RC Dude Someone needs to upload a vid to RUclips of them doing that
Do u know were I can get a good deone
Can i use this on phantom 3 4k bro?
How about lifting/delivering a life jacket?
I think it could work
can the drone lift 6lbs
None of the Phantom drones were designed or made to carry payloads. This puts a lot of unnecessary stress on the motors and could do major damage to the motors. This last week when I was at the show in Vegas I spoke to a DJI Rep about this subject and he backed this up 100%. DJI does make drones for lifting and carrying payloads, but not the Phantoms. I still enjoyed your video, Thumbs up!!
Thanks my friend! I believe that the Matrice drones would do better at carrying pay loads.
Can I attached a gopro on drone?
+JIRADET Ponari If you wanted, yeah.
Sick vid man ur my favorite person
Cool
+JetBlack 367 Thanks dude!
Too expensive for me but I could see it's use in a search and rescue type situation to drop a two way radio
Could be perfect for that!
من فضلك ، نريد تجربة حول المسافة ، عدد الكيلومترات التي يمكنك الطيران والتحكم بها بهذا الوزن ، والذي نرغب ان يقدر بنحو 100 أو 150 جرام
Please, we want an experiment about the distance, the number of kilometers you can fly and control with this weight, which we would like to estimate at 100 or 150 grams.
yes ...the bracket is loose ...if needed ....zip ties could be a decent fix
Good point. I thought about that when watching this video back
you mentioned the car noise, maybe look into audio compression. reduce any noise under 25-30 db or so. otherwise cool vid mate. I'd been wondering about this
Thanks for the tip👍🏼
Very nice video,keep them coming.
Good Day Billy!!! A great use for this would be for Running Wire Antennas for HAM Radio, Just what I am Looking for... BUT (Big But) Way too Expensive for the Purpose... As HAM are generally cheap and it would be cheaper to make Remote Release for ALOT less, So off to Planning... Thank You for your Videos...
Of course Dean!
would work well to drop a tag line to be able to pull up a wire antenna. I have NEVER thought about that but I will use that now..lol
this was very cool what would really impress me to the drone pick up an object on the ground like an egg
Where can I buy this at
Amazon link in the description
Oh man that's ballsy dude! I would hate to have my p4p be a Guinea pig for this product. Where in jersey are you from? I live up north in Ringwood
Im near Jersey. Just outside of Philadelphia.
My dude you have some serious eye brows
You got to try to flying around with the water bottle. Like transporting the water bottle.
Thank you! Keep up the good work!
It would be cool if you could offer some tests as to the actual range of the remote!
Pretty cool, but the mounting bracket seems poorly designed. Thanks for reviewing it Billy.
Sure thing. Agreed on the mounting bracket, definitely the weak point.
Now that's fun washing you act like the Loco Professor LOL....great job : )
Good use for this device is getting your surf fishing line out , no need casting?
Good idea! I'm sure you could hook it up some way
Wow, the things this can do is scary. And that dropping gadget is $150. We are entering a new world.
Oh lord! Are you one of those people that supports laws banning things like this that will only serve to affect law abiding people like me that drone-fish? Just asking.
love your channel sharing tips for 4 pro. thanks. just earned 1 sub. please keep it coming.
Thank you Kenny! You can count on me
got a question for u. so i just bought p4p+. how often should i calibrate everything? imu gps n gimbal? i read somewhere in google that some ppl do it everytime they're about to fly. is that correct or not?
An IMU calibration before each flight would be a pain. Only do that when you notice your drone not flying properly. As for the gimbal, it wouldn't hurt. Maybe start the calibration and while it does its thing get some other stuff set up. It's not necessary but can help with some fine tuning if something seems off.
awesome thanks man. will watch the rest of p4p video tomorrow. thanks for the tip! would you do a video of color grading in premiere pro for drone? if possible... thanks.
I am looking to get the Adobe suite of applications soon. Once I am able to work my way around I'll make some videos on it!
Would have been worth watching your review if you actually went and tested the range of the remote release!
So leaving out one small bit of information makes it not worth it? Sheesh
Exactly! You only demonstrated what the P4 could lift not the range of the remote. I think that is more important info to know!
Great, now I know I can ship at least 3Lbs of drugs with my drone :)
A couple small zip ties would do wonders to secure the bracket better
+Paul Morton Agreed Paul
Why didnt you get some hight?? Borrrrrring!!!!!
Love it. Next time go to 400' and drop a water balloon!
Genius!
Wow, actually lifted three pounds! Not going to try heavy drops like that! Too sketchy, the esc's could smoke-show on a guy, and down comes the phantom😩. Putting that many amps thru the battery would warm it up, real quick. Heat and electronics do NOT mix! Impressive illustration of the lifting capabilties, tho! I will be keeping all my drops under 400 grams. I made 4 emergency drops across a raging creek a couple days ago, and noticed a rapid discharge of the battery. Started with a full battery, and after 10 minutes of delivering the 4 packages, I landed at 52% battery left. The heaviest drop was 375 grams. Turned my " toy" into a practical tool, so I was pleased! I mounted my drop servo on a piece of light aluminum channel, that fits between the landing legs, when spread open. It sits below the camera, ahead of the downward facing sensors, center on the drone. All the motors and esc's share the same load this way. I thought this was safer and more stable. Seems to work good so far!
Awesome Jim! What were you dropping off with your drone? If you don't mind me asking
Billy Kyle Had an arthritis prescription, some mail, heritage seed order, and some large photos rolled up in a tube. Bagged ever drop with a plastic grocery bag, used the handles on the bags to thread thru the drop pin. Tying the bag seemed to help with the propwash.
+Jim Hofoss That's really awesome. Good work
Billy,After all the anticipation about the DJI Goggles I think it's somewhat funny that you haven't even mentioned them but instead are talking about stuff like this.lol
Hahah I'm sorry Randy!
Too bad, the Phantom doesn't have an aux channel out. Otherwise one can just fabricate cargo carrier & a simple servo.
Distance for this controller is too short for delivering water to stranded hiker etc.
Pretty cool! Pretty cashey though.
looking for this product ?
your blocking the VPS system
Mine was 89$
Really wanted to see you put a camera to show your face, and release the 3 lb. weight. The reaction on your face as you try to compensate for the rapid weight loss as the drone flew to Saturn would have been classic. By the way, $250 is a f*ckin' ripoff.
The price is definitely too high
AIRSOFT IN THE BACKGROUND LETS GO!
Those are some think ass eyebrows Bro !! LMAO
Inside the box.
now i can drop off coffee at my gf's work easier 🙂
+Next Level Living 😂😂
No way!! I was thinking about it if it was 50 or 60 USD but $250? On the other hand, cool video. I would want to see more videos of you dropping fragile stuff from 400 feet, like a water ballon.
Way.
This was designed for drug dealers dropping drugs and cellphones to their buddies behind bars
This is like a drug dealers dream.
Everyone is like "Oh I can't believe he spent all that money" BUT TIS FOR SCIENCE SO HE IS JUSTIFIED
Lol thank you Bailey! Someone understands hahaha
I will just lifting drugs into prison
Zip tie the bracket
Great idea
Nice! $119.99 on Amazon.
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