But Argentina lost the war and the Military goverment was very unpopular after that,do you think Venezuela would win such a war if yes, they are gonna get a lot of public support if not the goverment is gonna probably be more unpopular.
To be fair, the survival of the entire RN invasion force hinged on 1 dude forgetting to override arming timers on the A-4's dumb bombs, despite being specifically ordered too.
How is the British Empire relevant to this anymore? At some point, these former colonies need to stop blaming the British/their former colonial overlord for all the problems they make for themselves. Singapore is filthy rich. Guyana looks to be making headway. For real, South Korea was brutally colonized by Japan, divided, and then burned down in a war. And they have no oil or mineral resources to boot. Yet, they are a wealthy, developed country. What's Venezuela's excuse? 😒 @@j.g.d.s3142
Venezuelas government is struggling with with economic and political instability, it's a classic move for authoritarians to pick a fight when in that position
@@kris5885 true but sanctions were somewhat eased last month, which would usually make them heasitant because they dont want the slammed back on full again
A few minor points on the situation. Venezuela currently has 304 billion barrels of oil, (the largest in the world) Guyana has 11 billion barrels. Gas reserves are Venezuela 201 trillion cubic feet, Guyana 17 trillion. Oil/Gas reserves are not the reason. The real reason seems to be that the government of Maduro wants to test its support ahead of planned elections next year.
In some case, the more Important numbers is the price of extration Per Barrel! all that 300 Billion of reserves means nothing if you can't get a profit out of it, or if Oil prices aren't incredibly high for a long time frame. just check Venezuela situiation now.
@@MrUrze Um Venezuela used to be the 4th largest exporter of oil to the US BEFORE sanctions by that same US caused the number to tumble. They extracted a profit just fine for about a century BEFORE the US embargo. Unfortunately, that same embargo would also extend to any Guyana oil that they wish to sell after annexation. Lift the American embargo and they don't need Guyana. With the embargo Guyana won't change the equation. Guyana has nothing to do with the US embargo of Venezuela.
Not really. Especially since things have been bad there for a long time now, and if they deploy troops to fight some annexation war, it leaves less troops to keep the populace in line in case rebel groups form up and try and overthrow the government. The army in situations like those countries, mostly exist to keep the population in check, not necessarily to fight actual wars.
I'd disagree, stuff will just become worse for the people of Venezuela, their discontent with their situation will probably grow due to war fatalities, growing insecurity due to the army being somewhere else, resources going to the army, etc. Society has changed to some extent (or a lot) since a recent similar war in the region, Malvinas/Falklands. I'd agree if, idk, most Venezuelans are 100% Maduro fanatics that are willing to sacrifice themselves for whatever the guy says, which I personally doubt. Just my opinion.
I’m seeing an extortionate money grab. They will either threaten to grab the land, or just take it, then claim the adjacent off shore rights. Then, they will demand money from the oil companies and Guyana under threat of further action including taking all of Guyana if not paid. This is all part of the Axis of A$$holes plan to stretch the US beyond its military capabilities.
As a Venezuelan I can say: in my 40 years I was always in school, long before this government, the esequivo was called the "zone under claim" the inhabitants of that area were given attention only on the Guyana side, Venezuela never built nor cared about that territory. The people of that area do not feel Venezuelan (not even when Venezuela was at the head of Latin America) with the reserves and territory that Venezuela has, there is no need to fight for another piece of land. when more than 90% of Venezuela's fertile territory is not being exploited due to absurd laws and expropriations. The problem is not a piece of land. Leave those people alone and let's grow as neighboring countries
Given the chummy relationship between Venezuela and Russia, it would be no surprise to learn the latter is supporting the former. Russia would love to see the US being forced to intervene, drawing all the media away from Ukraine and into the new thing.
Against Venezuela it will be a matter of week and Russia doesn't want to loose its only foothold in south America so they won't allow Venezuela to do it
Well it looks like Russia already supported Hamas and Iran, and it worked. The whole world took its eyes off Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if they were encouraging Venezuela as well.
@@crocodileguy4319 Venezuela relies completely on Russia and China since they are under sanctions They can't survive without them and that's Russia ability to keep Venezuela in line
I wouldnt listen to the west though, when it comes to which elections are free and which are not. Especially the US. They decide that based on which leader they want to see leading the country in question. It must be an US friendly leader of course.
@@billcarson818 [Perfectly valid statement from somebody who might not even be western] "Yes, but have you considered that ALL VAGUELY WESTERN THINGS ARE INHERENTLY SATANIC" Average internet conversation
As a fellow neighbor of that country, they always try to bully their neighboring countries until they realize they are starving to death. They sent a shit ton of tanks to the Colombian border and didn't do shit
Or not. Imagine maduro did a referendum to forge an absolute no, it will legitimizes him against the pro-invasion internal criticism and give him authority to crack down on the military that might be using this conflict to get more internal power. Sometimes what appears isn't what is. We will know what maduro actually wants with the referendum resolt cause he will fudge it to legitimizes his decision of yes or no.
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our. Just cause our goberment is a punch of narcodictadors doesn't mean other countries can come and take our national goods.
A move into Guyana could bring down the Venezuelan regime. Venezuelan soldiers love good salaries and perks out of corruption in procurement etc., and maybe some expected spoils from the conquered Guyanese territory. But actually dying or getting hurt for the fatherland is not their business. A small army of well-determined defenders could drive them back and result in an humiliating defeat for Venezuela that could bring down the Maduro regime.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Venezuela’s GDP per capita fell from over 12000 to less than 2000 with many Venezuelans forced to migrate to keep living. Now, after such a catastrophic fall, if GDP recovers a bit for example to 3000, it’s still a country in poverty for the majority.
As a resident of the Guyanese Essequibo, I can say with all certainity that 99.9% of the Essequibians do not identify as Venezuelans and would never voluntarily accept Venezuelan id cards as their referendum would like people to choose.
Friend, I will be honest with you, you may be upset but I think that the essequibo is from Venezuela, but Venezuela is not ready for a conflict, I understand your sense of belonging and I respect it, but the English pirates were the ones who stole the essequibo from Venezuela
It is not ready either politically, economically or diplomatically for a conflict. As a Venezuelan, I do not support the referendum or the upcoming war, but the only thing I can tell you is that in the event of a war, I want you to know that not all Venezuelans want to go to war with you
Casi nadie vive en el esequibo actualmente, aparte que los guyaneses no son nativos sino africanos, mientras que los venezolanos sí al ser mestizos en gra parte.
@@PepeCoinMania there was an accord between British Empire and Venezuela that determined the country border (except for the islands on the river that the border follows)
It’s actually remarkable just how stable and war-free South America’s borders have been in modern times That’s not to say there isn’t trouble WITHIN those borders, but you don’t have a lot of countries torn by Civil War like in Africa, nor are there any real cross-border tensions between neighboring countries to speak of like in Asia The biggest crisis at the moment, Venezuela’s claims over much of Guyana, probably won’t amount to anything
They have different kinds of conflict that we don’t consider war but is just as bad. It’s actually pretty interesting to know all the different factions that fight and who is allied with who
I wonder what this invasion would even look like, because this region of Guyana is very underdeveloped. Which will mean that as soon as the Venezuelan army leaves its borders, it will end up in a vacuum (or rather a dense jungle with no roads but with tropical diseases, swamps, rivers, dense forests and other types of terrible terrain).
Oil: *is discovered* Neighboring countries: "So, we've had a claim on that region for like 50 Million years, so that's ours, please give that back now"
@@allenk6373 And the USA is also somewhere in the top ten. Has that stopped them from invading and antagonizing oil-rich nations in the middle east? Nope
Perhaps? by convincing its military financiers that it will eventually repay military debts by capturing and harnessing Guyana's incredibly valuable oil assets?
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
The west side of Guyana's territory is mostly undeveloped rainforest. Nothing one could easily invade, they'd have to build roads and infrastructure to even attempt.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
My mother has had a refrigerator magnet of Venezuela for decades now, I think. It always seemed a little odd to me since it had another dangling territory on the east of it. So I guess official policy has been to recognize it as their own territory for a while already. And now I know what the Essequibo crisis is about.
I grew up in venezuela every stupid map i ever saw had the esequibo included with a label that said "zona en reclamacion" which roughly translates to "disputed zone" They never let that go
@@houseplant1016 man, i hate venezuela so much, that country is a goddamn joke, i left it years ago and its always embarassing to be associated with it
Imagine living in a country where it’s currency is useless, where the food is scarce while the government has the audacity to ask you by referendum whether they should go annex your neighbour or not rather than sorting out societies main issues. That’s outrageous.
I don't know what country you're talking about because since 2019 or so there isn't scarcity of food in Venezuela. Let me be clear that there indeed was food scarcity in Venezuela from 2016-2019 (I don't want to wash off the acts of our terrible government), but if you're going to talk about a country first get your facts up to date. Also we now use the US Dollar.
The United States already has two war fronts to support in Ukraine and Israel, in addition to closely monitoring China's movements with Taiwan. It would be stupid for it to get involved in a jungle conflict with Venezuela... Nobody will support Guyana if Venezuela invades
As a venezuelan, I can tell you that most of us do hate the government, but at the same time we're very patriotic and wouldn't mind to invade Guyana to take what we see as ours
a Venezuelan navy ship lost a a battle to a German cruise ship It fired upon the German cruise liner, and decided to go for a ramming maneuver when the German ship didn't surrender. The cruise liner was designed for Antarctic exploration, thus having a reinforced hull, and consequently the Venezuelan ship sank while the German ship suffered only minor damage
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500ur correct, ukr natural gas is more than enough to power the whole of europe for 20 years. Venez oil is the bad quality tipe. Guianas I have no idea but if it's the top notch quality that explains the eagerness of the involved. Russia foreign policy is agressive atempt to monopolize gas market price and not gas itself. That's why it surrounded europe in conflicts to block other competitors to sell via pipeline.
Venezuela: We need that oil! Everyone: Why? Venezuela: To make Venezuela Great Again! Everyone: But you have plenty of oil and have done a terrible job with it Venezuela: But that oil is the solution! Everyone *visibly confused*: "What?"
Think that a band of old legal foxes are taking territory from your country, when by right it belongs to you, the fact that Venezuela has reduced prestige does not mean taking away what belongs to it
Guyana- "We are the fasteat growing economy" also Guyana- #1 In Suicide Rates in Latin America #1 In water and electricity problems for a Country of "many waters" #1 Poor wages #1 In domestic Violence fatalities #1 in Rapes of Indigenous Women #1 Corruption in the Caribbean Etc….
My mom and dad are from Guyana. My mom grew up on a farm in Essequibo. If this were to happen, I would feel inclined to help out whether it is with aid or training in the UK, then joining the military in Guyana. I would have never thought in my life that this would happen.
That seems very low from Venezuela. Utterly absurd. Don't worry pal, I don't think anyone will support Venezuela if they try to do something ugly. Be well, greetings from Greece ❤
@@Ldkdh always been it's territory, while non e of the inhabitants speak Spanish as their native language, or feel Venezuelan, let alone latin American, sure🤣 let them fix their hyperinflation, their corruption , and their economic system as a whole first.
@@rajabouzeid8801 I agee with you about focusing on fixing current problems, thats why i think Venezuela should aboid War, but my point still remains, guyana was stolen by UK and they have been mocking Venezuela about the territory for so long and Venezuela has always been very patient about the topic.
As a Guyanese American this is scary. There’s finally a boom in the economy for Guyana and I want them to grow. They don’t need war. It seems colonialism is back
Hi, born and raised in Guyana here with a lot of Guyanese and Venezuelan friends. Some information to add on. 1) The British guy hired to make the border for British Guiana incorporated FAR MORE LAND than what was illustrated on that map. When the official border was settled in the original arbitrary court, Venezuela wholeheartedly accepted it and was satisfied I would assume because they got back a great deal of land with the current border. Edit: "Wholeheartedly" I was wrong to use this vocabulary as pointed out by people below; Venezuela was disappointed about the results but still accepted it. 2) Venezuela' gov't was satisfied with this ruling for decades and even resurrected a physical monument on roraima with Brazil and Guyana to mark the 3 way point where all 3 country's borders meet. This is definitive proof that there was no border dispute after and they themselves fully acknowledged Guyanese borders in their law. 3) The new grievances of the borders in the 1960s arose because one of the representatives of Venezuela in the 1st Arbitrary court case, died and left a piece of writing where he claimed that there was a conspiracy in which the Brits made a deal with the judge that was Rusian. Yes, >:edit: *modern day*:< communist Russia Britain and the U.S were enemies with. This was literally just one guy writing something on paper with NO EVIDENCE WHAT SO EVER TO BACK IT UP. He himself couldn't even support it as...he was dead. We don't even know if it was even him as it was submitted a year after his death. Venezuela has been given MANY opportunities to provide a single shred of evidence to support these claims and has fallen short in terms of convincing a court every single time. added: Guyana's stance is that 1899 rulings still stands; Venezuela's is that 1899 is null. Neither party concedes their claims so there needs to be arbitration and Venezuela needs to present evidence to the world court to back this up. 4) During the 1960s, the Venezuelan govt rewrote their text books to include the esequibo (Guyana's disputed) territory into their textbooks and teach that its their land to be reclaimed in the future. That's two entire generations indoctrinated to believe this baseless claim and so now, you can only imagine how that referendum will go and even how a lot of Venezuelans will feel about this dispute. My opinions: Considering the horrible state of that country, this can absolutely be used as a way to take the focus off that corrupt government and present a form of "unity" for the nation as people will have something to come together for. We've seen how war time has worked well for the u.s in the past during the great depression when Franklin D. Roosevelt was in office. With decades and decades of indoctrination, the people most likely feel as though Guyana's new oil reserves are theirs and those resources in times of hyperinflation and massive poverty seem like good enough motivation and justification for them to support an unjustified and illegal invasion of Guyana in my opinion. Getting even more oil will not magically dig them out of the hole the greedy politicians put them in and those same rulers won't stop dipping their hands in the cookie jar. Also, Unlike the Donbass, not a single person from Esequibo identifies themselves as Venezuelan. Everyone there is Guyanese, I have family from there and none of them will come out saying they're Venezuelans. So if anyone comes out with such confusion, that's misinformation. update: I found out there are 24,000 Venezuelans atleast, in Guyana that fled hardships and violence from Venezuela. Some even claim there are as much as 80,000. The Guyanese attitude is that we have been welcoming them in with open arms. I see this as an issue because I have seen the social media of Venezuelan migrants claiming Esequibo as Venezuela's. If Maduro wants to take out of Russia's play book, it seems possible now. They can either fake an "attack" and claim Venezuelans in Guyana are in trouble, try to claim there are a lot of Venezuelans in Esequibo and that's justification for taking it without a fair trial or some of those migrants already here could be insurgents or just straight up turn on the hand that took them in. This is a sticky situation because to us, they are basically just people trying to live. There's no way we can predict what could happen. Best thing I think can happen is a revision of immigration processes to include thorough background checks and limit the amount of people coming until tensions go down. You can search up: "Guyana Uncut, Venezuela vs Guyana border dispute" on RUclips. That guy has wayyy more details on all this. He has a 2 part series encircling a lot of important facts on this matter in the form of two videos. ruclips.net/video/0kktSNOzbMA/видео.html => Here's a layout of the timeline of events that have occured to the date of the video by the ICJ: video title: "World Court throws out Venezuela’s preliminary objection in Guyana border dispute settlement case" ruclips.net/video/5qUWqxpKueg/видео.html www.ejiltalk.org/the-dispute-between-guyana-and-venezuela-over-the-essequibo-region/ mapsonstampsdb.com/issuing/Venezuela Look at the dates and the stamps and pay most attention to the maps from the 1930s. From 1965 onwards, you'll notice it starts to include the disputed teritory (Esequibo) with text saying "Reclamacion de su Guyana (rough translation of Reclaiming your Guyana)". + I never would have imagined something like this would ever be a topic for my birth country. When I grew up there, we were a 3rd world country and a majority of us lived with little. It took several terms to oust corrupt politicians and finally get a just government in office that cared about the people. Just when we finally got a break and hit the jackpot...boom, threat of invasion. I can't stand for this and I pray to GOD this can get settled once and for all in the ICJ without any bloodshed. I will fully support any ruling in Venezuela's favor by the ICJ in a fair, transparent trial. Anything that would prevent my family from being in harm's way and innocent people on both sides too. My biggest dread is that they get caught up in an invasion. The modern Venezuelan army already has a bad reputation for murdering unarmed civilians as seen in the Kumarakapay massacre. Edit: Remember to keep your discussions as civil as possible below brothers and sisters.
Thanku for ur personal input. Just an add on: my aunt is russian from st petersburg with familly in dombas and their claim is pro-russian in dombass are new commers from russia and not original dombass people who were very fine with being ukrainian territory. They also claimed it's all about the natural gas found that dombas people were excited about selling to eu cause it pays good.
@@puraLusa I appreciate your input. I didn't knkw about the natural gas, but I personally have heard from Ukranians from the Donbass that Russian military personel went into that region before the Seperatists started claiming it as independent from Ukraine. Your aunt's family's claims fits perfectly with what I heard.
The territory of the Captaincy General of Venezuela when Venezuela was part of Spain extended until the Esequibo River. When Venezuela got its independence it maintained the territory of the Captaincy General of Venezuela except fot Trinidad and the dutch islands. Then came the british and got the Guyana territory from the dutch, which does not include west of Esequibo since that was venezuelan, but they go and say "actually all this land is ours", yeah the territory they claimed extended even more into venezuelan territory as you said but it isn't an excuse so that you can later say "well they got some back", when the reality is that the whole territory was venezuelan and was ilegally robbed from us.
I hope people can investigate more about this matter and not form an opinion based only on this video, since this problem has a lot of details that this video didn't mention. It's not as simple as this is making it to be.
This video is highly anglo saxon biased. The 1899 arbitration is the most corrupt one I ever known about. The UK didn't allow a venezuelan representative, they considered Venezuela too inferior for them to be seated like equals in the same table, so the US represented Venezuela, and a russian arbitrator was the neutral third party. But he was a university teacher in various british universities. The arbitration process had 3 months to work, but only did so during 6 days. The process screams british victorian imperialism everywhere and very loudly. From then on, Venezuela has expressed its insatisfaction with it, and I couldn't agree more.
This is so biased, dont even show the histórica maps that clearly stablish Guayana Ezequiba as venezuelan territory. 1.- Maduro goberment is ilegitime and corrup, 2.- Guayana Ezequiba is venezuelan land
Here is how Venezuela will keep its promise not to invade. Venezuela has stated that it would not invade Guyana. Venezuela annexes the territory east of the river by means of a referendum. Venezuela sends in troops to ‘its own territory’ to ‘reestablish order’ due to ‘separatists’.
Then US fighter jets declare skies about Venezuela as their property and rein hell on that silly dictatorship:/ Don't mess with US oil interests, it's the last thing you'll ever do.
A Venezuelan warship once sunk itself after deliberately ramming a Cruise ship. The military is such a piece of shit and they have to keep them in Venezuela to prevent a coup, protests, etc. However, the Dictator used to be a bus driver so hes really not the brightest so ig theres still a chance
@@unfrugal4603 I'm definitely not a fan of the Venezuelan government, but I must point out that 1) Maduro went into the world of politics way before becoming the President, so he's not just a bus driver who wake up one day in the presidential office. 2) The Venezuelan army has a lot of troops and equipment available, in some respects even more than my country, Brazil, which has a huge territory compared to Venezuela, so we can't discard the possibility of the Venezulan army being successful in a military operation like the one being discussed.
@@User-jr7vf That's true, I'm strongly against Venezuela's dictatorship but things to be recognized is that Venezuela has a good arsenal and it's intelligence web is strong too, I feel they play the fool to be subestimated on purpose.
I'm sorry but I knew this one Guyanese dude who was in my science class and soley because of him being such an asshole I hope Venezuela invades your entire country 🇻🇪
So many Venezuelans are running away from their country to Guyana and other neighboring countries. Their government is a complete disaster the Venezuelan government should focus their energy on bettering their current land rather than fighting for more that doesn't belong to them. One Love to Guyana.
Venezuela will fnish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates. All this despite US sanctions. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela stands against the USA and Israel and their war crimes! The USA is using Guayana as their pawn! they will fail!
@@letr4011 Venezuela is a failing economy with a failing dictator and there is no evidence that essiquibo is Venezuela's. Venezuela wants oil not land, get that straight. When Venezuela decides to attack, they will be met with American troops, Brazilian, and more for the Caribbean to protect us.
@@letr4011 that is pretty much what happened, and what somehow on most videos doesnt appear that info either, so it looks like "Ohh Venezuela is going to invade" and without the full contest. Doesnt mean that I agree with the dictatorship, but if you put that aside and go to the historical context it goes to Venezuela
I think I remember hearing that Brazil has started mobilizing their troops to defend Guyana, so I have high hopes that Venezuela will not be successful even if they do invade
Brazil is governed by a Maduro wannabe, they are mobbing... but to help Venezuela, specially when a small piece of Esequibo used to be Brazil after their disputes with The UK.
Same old story. "When you are a dictator in south America and your consense is dwindling, blame someone else and invade some place to raise the national spirit and distract the population from real problem, that in most of the cases is you"
Just like the corporatocracies of United States and other Western countries. Ignoring all the festering internal problems. Interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, instead of solving their own problems. Invading under the auspices of liberty and freedom; killing and pillaging than dare lecture others on morality at the United Nations.
Yeah. This will be another Falklands war. Considering that Guyana has pretty strong ties to the US and the UK, they would have bombs on Caracas by the end of the night.
God deals very well with greedy and corrupted, Governments.....You are living in the dark old ages where you believe Maduro's stance on Guyana's terrioritires can improve his country....How would you feel if someone invade your home and claiming it wrongfully ? Do you think that person or persons will prosper?????
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270yeah, it's very easy to appear to be growing when your economy is shit and you could add a few million dollars to your GDP. The same goes for your stupid inflation rates. It must feel quite an accomplishment to go from 1500% to 900%.
It was not in 1814 where frontiers where defined. Spain did in 1776 if you look for our territory in 1776 you can observe our map and our east frontier. Basically, British Guyana was just a little piece of land. British Kingdom established that frontier in 1840 because it was discovered gold and diamonds in the Esequibe river and it is surrounding parts. So they decided where the frontier was going to be.
Seeing how Venezuela manages its massive oil reserves…. If Guyana is annexed I’m pretty sure they will mess that up to… Venezuela should just focus internally instead of outward 😅
ding ding ding! as a venezuelan myself, i dont want to see Guyana ruined by an inpet dictatorship. Also, they'll destroy all nature in Guyana as well - illegal mining with mercury in rivers is rampant in vzla right now, among with many other kinds of environmental destruction.
@@alejandrosalazar7849 yeah yeah take all your wild fantasies to your bed when you are ready to sleep, just try to put a soldier on guyanas soil and you would see UK military power against your outdated russian shit, so good luck with that.
Guyana is a heavily patriotic country, they wouldnt sit back and let Venezuela do this . Guyana is prob the fastest growing and developing nation in the Caribbean and South America so it would be a terrible look on the international community if they sat back and let this happened. I live in a neighbouring country and have met a lot of both guyanese and venezuelian , they're really nice and hard working people, would be sad to see them go to war
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Im not sure about that bro, theres been a sharp increase in immigrants from Venezeula into my country.. most entering illegally . A lot of them coming here to get any kind of work they can to send money back to their families back home.
"Guyana is prob the fastest growing and developing nation in the Caribbean and South America" Yes... thanks to the resources that are IN our piece of the territory...
Hmm forgot to mention that when Venezuela declared its independency from the Great Colombia, it marked its border at the Essequibo River (in accordance with the territory of the previous Venezuela as a spanish Colony) and the UK was okay with that, however, few years later when they were with their inner strugglings, Gold was found west from the River and the UK sent people over there and later the UK set unilaterally the Schomburg line; moreover, UK plotted with the USA (as it was the intermediary) against Venezuela in the International Tribune for the case (along with a russian jury) and that's how the UK got favored, funny thing is this plot was discovered and confimed in the 60's and that's the reason why Venezuela Rejects the 1899's arbitration
You really missed the part of it being a Dutch territory before being a uk one and the Dutch didn't hold the same view. Maybe we could look into the historical explorations and settlements of the Spanish in essequibo that never existed
The precedents of Ukraine, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and of Gaza worryingly make a Venezuelan invasion of Guyana more realistic. Guyana would have no security guarantees from other countries, Venezuela would have an incentive to invade and other major world powers would probably be too occupied to focus on this situation.
Yeah, but Guyana is fortified by Amazon jungle, it would be a logistical nightmare for Venezuela to launch such operation penetrating the jungle, especially with their near-death economic situation
It's a potential war over oil, being fought on the other side of a US lake, where no other country is in any position whatsoever to provide Venezuela with any help. Maduro knows an invasion would provoke a US attack. This is all bluster. War as a continuation of (domestic) politics.
Venezuela has made these claims for a long time. When I was there in 2008, I remember seeing many images of the Venezuelan map including this huge chunk of Guyana. Only recently have large oil reserves off of Guyana's coast been discovered and started to be exploited, mostly with the help of Exxon-Mobil. No wonder Venezuela wants it now more than ever, and it's a great distraction for their myriad economic problems. If Guyana starts exporting tons of oil (which will probably be the case given their small population of only around 800,000) I certainly hope that they will learn lessons from their neighbor about what NOT to do with oil wealth. Time will only tell.
That territory belong to us but the war is not the way. Also we are under a dictatorship, basically the worst moment to discuss this matter. The dictatorship is using this as excuse to stay in power
I tend to think they won’t actually invade simply because the geography of that region makes it pretty much impossible. I think this is just another thing the Venezuelan government is using to bolster its own internal propaganda and narrative and to increase the extreme nationalism they’ve been promoting, they have a narrative that “the world is against Venezuela and has been since their inception” which, there’s some amount of truth to that actually (not the world, but the West) which is why this propaganda has been effective for the last 30ish years, but it’s misleading and deceptive too plenty of the time, especially when it comes to this particular issue. Venezuela got a lot more out of the original border dispute because they had America’s help, if it weren’t for us the Brit’s probably would’ve tried taking the whole claim they had. If Venezuela does go through with an invasion, it will be a giant failure and probably lead to the military turning against the government.
@@herluisalvarado8366 I don't occupy any land. I live in the Netherlands, which I am native to. Ironically, part of that land was once ours too. But it doesn't now. Just like it doesn't belong to you now. The people who live there are Guyanese. Whatever claim Venezuela creates for itself, it doesn't justify conquest or annexation. Guyana is a recognized UN member and its borders are exactly where they should be. So I don't know what "historical documents" you're talking about. But the video is quite clear on how international law ruled on the matter, decades ago. A ruling which Venezuela accepted at the time. An invasion of Guyana simply puts Venezuela more on the side of authoritarian Russia., Of course, Venezuela will suffer consequences for it if they do so.
As a brazilian I think Venezuela cannot go for the Esequibo territory without also ending up in conflict with Brazil. Because part of the contested territory that Venezuela claims, also has an area that overlaps with an Old Brazilian territorial dispute that dates back to when Guyana was a British Colony, this dispute was put to a international arbitration led by the then King of Italy who decided for a British win over the dispute and thus Brazil abided to the decision and let go of over 19km². This was the only territorial dispute that Brazil has ever lost, and funny thing is, it was later found out that the Italian King favoured the British in his verdict because he didn't like the brazilians 😂 that piece of S*. Anyway this dispute was known as the "Questão do Pirara" or the "Pirara Question". So if Venezuela annex the Esequibo which has parts of our former territory it will lose its legal validity because we handed over the territory diplomatically to Britain in which Guyana inherited with its independence. If Guyana no longer possess the territory then the dispute is open again and Venezuela will have to let go of it or go to war with Brazil.
-- you cannot say that "venezuela CANNOT go for the essequibo"....because of a small plot that Brazil has an issue with. They can go for the essequibo, and set aside that small piece. In fact, what if they/venezuela promise Brazil to give Brazil that piece, IF brazil cooperate in Venezuela's annexation of the essequibo ??.
O Brasil não vai intervir. O Maduro está falando de invadir agora pois ele sabe que o Lula não vai fazer absolutamente porra nenhuma para impedir ele. A única coisa que faria o Brasil parar a Venezuela seria pressão internacional, ou se o Lula perceber que isso deixaria ele internamente extremamente impopular, algo que dificilmente vai acontecer. E sonho seu achar que o Lula, o homem que viu a refinaria da Petrobrás sendo invadida e que defende a decisão até hoje, irá defender interesses brasileiros em território alheio, ainda mais interesses de questões de 100 anos atrás, é mais fácil ele enviar tropas brasileiras para ajudar o a Venezuela.
I wanted to say that Czechia is playing on easy mode given our location deep inside the EU, but then I remembered that during covid, we had some Polish border police accidentally "annexing" a chapel close to the border for a few hours. 😂
hmmm... i like your very telling title. lets see, guatemala has its eye on belize, communist china is clawing at taiwan, venezuela 's empty stomach wants to sate itself with guyana, and im surprised that iraq has said nothing about annexing its 19th province. the bottom line is that the general population of the aforementioned "invadeable" countries (yes i said countries) just want to live in peace, make a living, and provide for their families. meanwhile the countries that have "been wronged by history" want to bring annexation, invasion, or bloodshed to innocent people. whether its right or wrong how the boundaries were settled by the colonial masters, it does not justify the claims to threaten, annex or take military action in any of these 4 cases. its probably true that many countries wont send troops into guyana. american and british troops have commitments else where in the world. i dont see them or caricom in guyana. and its probably true that venezuela will send forces into the small cities and villages of the essequibo by air and sea and have the logistical capabilities of sustaining a force. however like everything else mismanaged in venezuela, the collapse of a long term presence in the essequibo would be inevitable. it would not be because of guyanese resistance. and if the invasion were to humiliatingly fail, then odds are the caracas government, that sent its young men there, would also be subject to change itself. galtieri did not last long after his foray into the malvinas/falklands. and after that day of failure comes , venezuela may have to contend with british or american bases in the essequibo or elsewhere in guyana. and thats why it should be impractical and farsighted to occupy the essequibo. the last thing venezuela needs is more sanctions and us or british forces near their border or seas. once again the new colonial powers would win in south america. its only the innocent people of guyana and venezuela that would suffer. there is no need for american or british forces to be on the continental south american soil. a venezuelan incursion into the essequibo would only invite more meddling by outside forces. instead of worrying about the territorial injustices of the past, venezuela should stay out of the essequibo for the sake of itself, the entire continent, and the future. and lets not forget that there are already venezuelans in essequibo who are fleeing venezuela for a better life (much like the guyanese who fled to venezuela many years ago). i dont see those people wanting the long arm of venezuela in the essequibo either. ditto for guatemala eyeing belize. there are so many innocent people who just want peace, to be left alone, and to live without fear of other governments starting chaos and bloodshed over past territorial grievances.
I recommend that you carry out a better historical investigation of what really happened during the 19th century with the Essequibo issue. Essequibo was Spanish territory during the colony
As a Caribbean person who's been to Guyana, and learned about regional geography in school, I've only heard Essequibo pronounced "eh see kwee boe", and Starbroek, "Star-broke". It's crazy that I live so close and I only found out about Venezuela's referendum today. Also it's crazy that the Essequibo is spoken about in the context of being Spanish/British/Venezuelan/Guyanese, when Amerindian people lived there first and still continue to live there today
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270Venezuela sent Humanitarian aid to Palestine but that could be optics. Venezuela is affiliated with Iran who backs Hamas amongst other Militants in the region. Iran has used Venezuela as a proxy to target their own foreign nationals or former nationals. There were plots to kidnap an Irani woman who criticized the Hijab and send her to Venezuela to then be sent to Iran to face their courts. Venezuela ain't a good country and is affiliated with bad people and bad people only.
As a Venezuelan, I know that the historical context dictates that the Essequibo is rightfully part of our territory, however, Guyana has been an independent nation for decades. Even though this territory was taken from us by the British and whatnot, it's ludicrous to believe we can actually just ignore the fact that Guayana is a country with its own currency, language, culture and everything else. There's an absolute 0 chance annexation is going to happen. Besides, we in Venezuela have a thousand more problems we should be dealing with besides petty territorial disputes.
As a Venezuelan I am also very aware that all this circus is to divert attention from our current situation and from future elections. But I’m extremely concerned that this is actually working because most people don’t seem to realise this and seem to be developing these nationalist sentiments
@@nelsondhg Chavistas are and always will be idiots. And I agree, this whole Essequibo business is stirring up a lot of nationalism (though probably forced by public institutions) that seemed to come out of nowhere. Let's hope there's enough of us who are actually lucid enough to see through the ruse and for this not to influence next year's elections too much (not that I have a lot of confidence the elections will change something, but still).
Can you please express some of your insights as a citizen of Guyana? When I was learning about the countries I remembered Gyuana as the one I knew nothing about at all.
@@christopherstein2024I can offer you my opinion as a Hispanic, I am Peruvian, many Venezuelans live in my country. Guyana has recently discovered oil, and it was speculated that it would be the country with the highest economic growth in the world. Venezuela has always been claiming the Eseqibo. and with this new news they are preparing to intervene. The majority of Venezuelans are not in favor of their government, however the Essequibo claim comes even before the communist dictatorship. Possible reaction from other Hispanic countries. only vague rumors: Mexico, its president already said that they would support Cuba and Venezuela with everything. Brazil: Rumors of possible intervention because they want to take French Guiana. Other more pro-Western countries such as Argentina, Peru, Panama, Chile and Uruguay will surely position themselves against Venezuela, but these countries do not have the military capacity of Venezuela, Mexico or Brazil.
@@DavidCelestialKnight como Brasileiro poso te garantir que NÃO queremos nos envolver nesse tipo de conflito, sobre Guiana Francesa, nada contra eles se fossem um país e não um estado da França, europeu não tem que se meter aqui na América do Sul, mas não temos intenção de invadir ninguém. Se o Lula presidente atual do Brasil apoiar a Venezuela ele estaria dando um tiro no pé, pois estaria dando munição para a oposição, a eleição aqui foi 56% a 44% então acredito que ele não faria isso, nem a base aliada o apoiaria, caso favorecesse a Venezuela e eu sou de esquerda e apoio a causa Guianense. A mentalidade do Brasileiro é " o que não for Brasil, na América do Sul e Central .... deixa pra lá ...."
@DavidCelestialKnight os 3 únicos países que temos uma preocupação maior, em garantir uma estabilidade e ajudar no crescimento deles é Argentina, Uruguai e Paraguai. Os outros estão muito longe dos centros urbanos do Brasil ... não chega muita coisa aqui ... então não nos importamos muito com eles. É lamentável do meu ponto de vista, mas é o consenso nacional....
@@mormacilThere's no need to be so condescending in your comment, Not everyone is in the loop on some geopolitical happenings or geography at that. 🤦🏾♂️
Sounds like the Russian situation. This situation is known to people familiar with the region. They can’t govern their own country with their citizens fleeing by the hundreds of thousands but want to annex territories of another country.
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our.
Fallacy - India was supposed to be selfgovern by indias and Venezuela should be govern by Venezuela, under what you are saying Spain should go back to own all Latin-American. Just cause while we were gaining independent the british came and toke advantage of the situation doesn't meant to say the land isn't our. But is pretty easy to talk about a country that' has nothing to do with you. @@LuKiSCraft
@@carloshidalgo92Borders change. The population if that region is basically zero, so Venezuela does barely have a historic or ethnic claim to this region. The UN deemed it part of Guyana. Venezuela even accepted it for a while. What used to be in the past does not matter, otherwise there would be endless wars.
The US would never allow a war of conquest so close to home. They’d have to be mad to try. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if Brazil also were to intervene.
I doubt it, the president is Lula, literally one of the politicians who took the most advantage of Chavismo's petrodollars in the oil boom. His modern connection to Chavismo is not as strong as it was to Chavez, but...
Well USA is actually one of the biggest terrorist country on the world, if they are capable of destroying a small country like Haiti that didnt deserve that, they can do anything. And you know it
I hope Venezuela does not do this. The best thing is the overthrow of the Venezuelan regime by the people and the establishing a democratic government After reforming Venezuela's government, Venezuela can become so incredibly rich that Guyana itself would aspire to become part of Venezuela !! Best Wishes to Venezuela and Guyana From Iran 🇮🇷❤️🇻🇪🇬🇾
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative.
At least in the Crimean one, Crimeans actually voted (The results were tampered with, but it does seem likely that the pro-Russian position would have won regardless) but they actually were asking the population in question This is even more insane (Not that the Russian invasions weren't)
This is somehow even more idiotic than the Crimean referendum! Back in 2014, the referendum was held within Crimea. What is about to happen concerning Guyana, would be like if in 2014, the Crimean referendum was held within Russia with Russians voting on whether they should annex Crimea or not. The December 2nd referendum is going to be held within Venezuela with Venezuelans voting on whether or not they should annex Guyana, with no one in Guyana getting to vote! So, yes, this is a sham referendum for sure!
It's not even that... a referendum in Crimea could have been legit if not done under occupation and all the other stuff.. but asking the venezuelans about the sovereignty of other people is absurd.
@@Me-ui1zy Indeed, this is asking Russians if they would like to annex the Balkan states. And if they don't say yes already out of their brainwashed 'free will' you just make sure the final result says so anyway and you go ahead and annex it in the name of the 'people'. To be fair: most wars aren't started by first asking the citizens if they would like to start a war. Usually, the ruling class decides to start a war and doesn't ask anything to the people having to fight the war. So maybe we can celebrate the progress here :P
1. Have shitloads of oil 2. Manage to ruin your economy despite of that plus sky high prices 3. Try to annex neighbouring country to get more oil JINEEOOZ!!!
@@jonathanbowers8964Deja vu from the gulf war is strong with this one, two oil state one that is much bigger than the other want to go to war with their smaller neighbor due to territorial dispute and for oil. The only thing that is missing here is a huge coalition that will stop them.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Oh come on! Don't you see you've just made a Gulf War comparison even stronger? Learn some history, mate! 300% inflation in 2023, prognosed 200% in 2024. Sure it's down from 65k, but it's like: when you reach the rock bottom, the only way is up. I tell you what: in 90s russia we've considered those 'falling' numbers a catastrophe. Sending aid to Palestine?! In light of what's said before it's clearly a PR stunt, but mate! Palestinian leader is worth $5B. Just he alone, not counting his closest minions. It's trice as much as the yearly UN aid to Palestine: $1.6B. Which is a half (!!!) of the whole UN budget of $3.1B. Venezuela sends aid to Palestine... yeah, you can readily see the spiritual connection. Why don't you send help to poor struggling russia, like such advanced countries as Iran and North Korea did? Speaking of russia - the way you speak is what I've heard all around me right before russia started its occupation wars. And while the end of the war is yet open, it sure didn't go as expected for the aggressor.
Why is Venezuela important to Russia? Russian oil companies are involved in major exploration projects for oil and mineral resources in Venezuela, including valuable rare earths. This Latin American country has become one of the main buyers of Russian weapons and weapons systems.May 6, 2023
They are a failed state and dictatorship, Dicktatorships keep their power by using another interest group and or country as a scapegoat to blame or use for popularity if thing go sour. Dicktatorships keep their power not only by force but also by propaganda.
It's the 4th question on the referendum that makes things clear by telling citizens of Venezuela that Guyana has acted illegally and violated international law. After that it's obvious what answer voters are expected to give regarding invading Guyana and what answer will displease the Venezuelan government. It's like a referendum in which one question includes saying that Mr Smith has acted illegally and has stolen bsnk funds and the next question asks if Mr Smith should be imprisoned.
It's like when I once voted on a referendum about abolishing monarchy and it was written something like "the kings are robbers keeping all our money for their luxury, illegitimate since nobody voted them, an useless obsolete feudal error from the dark ages, this and that... So, knowing all this, do you think we still should maintain them as heads of state? -YES -NO" I really couldn't believe it how all that was literally written in the paper and it wasn't neutral at all
They're asking their own citizens vs the citizens of the people in the region... I don't think the Venezuelan government knows what the definition of a referendum actually means.
Even some venezuelans living here are not aware of what is going on. Some have no phones and are not on internet to know what's going on. Sorry for some who don't know. I forgive them
I'm Venezuelan, and honestly I'm horribly scared for this war, the government is clearly only doing it to stay in power since they have the pressure of the UN and EU on them to have actual fair elections instead of stealing them like they always do, and this is a very nationalist and retrograde country, people are starting to support the dictatorship just because "hey that territory is ours.", my say in all of this? It isn't, it never was, Venezuela never controlled that territory, Britain just basically gave it away before Guyana became independent and Venezuela has been claiming it since, I feel like we ought to be understanding and human in all of this, Guyana is a country already plagued with geopolitical issues to the east and south of it, they have managed the territory for longer than we ever have, they are a former colony of Britain so even then they deserve it more, and it's not worth going to war for it. Hoping here the government won't do forced recruitment like they used to a couple years ago, if they do I'm getting dragged to war to die all to keep some tyrant in power.
The PSUV is the largest party in Venezuela. the Chavistas are the biggest group in Venezuela. The pitiyanquis like Capriles, MCM and Guaido are TRAITORS!
@@filipesmits2157A part of Essequibo was Brazilian territory around the Leathem side of Guyana. British Guiana gained that territory diplomatically in 1904 , so the whole of Essequibo was never Venezuelas especially at Leathem
This territory was always Venezuelan and this problem was settle with the dutch by making the Esequibo river as the natural frontier of our territories. The problem is that British came here and claimed as theirs, even dare to occupy other states like Bolívar and Monagas. What is your answer? That they should also have annexed those states too? Basically giving away national territory. Try to take land from the British and see what happens. But we? We then should just sit and see how we are stolen right?
Japan attacked China (yet another time) 2 years prior to WW2. I wonder if that (yet another) Russian attack on Ukraine is gonna be remembered as a similiar "prelude" to WW3.
We have certainly seen a Pandora's box of frozen conflicts starting up again. Nagorno-karabakh, Gaza, Ethiopia, Sudan and all the military coups in Francophone west African countries.
@@Dorgpoopand before russia myanmar coup. Ya, seems like a prelude to something bigger. Thing is, albeit regional guiana is actually uk and usa interests so - that makes it way more of a sign than anything else.
we're so screwed if all of this has a chance to go nuclear, even a limited exchange would be bad, also the global temp at one point temporarily reached the 2 degrees celsius, wonder how much the bloodshed is going to contribute to further planetary ecological destruction@@puraLusa
We in the US will certainly help y'all out. We have long hated Venezuela and even our most isolationist elements have political incentives to support y'all should it come to that.
As long as Guyana is serving US- companies to explore and mine the crude oil, they have nothing to worry as long as the oil reserves lasts. However, they need to make sure that the money earned from this oil boom is invested in other more sustainable industries particularly in the 'disputed' area. This is the challenge for Guyana not to fall into the "Dutch Disease'.
It is the Marxist disease that Guyana needs to fear. Her past in the 1960s when they destroyed everything from the buildings to the railways that represented England, their refusal to pay their soverign debts to the international community, resulted in an 80% black marist racist takeover that treated the people who came from India as less than equal. The Indian's then had a slogan put into practice about One-Generation where every Indian descent family would have at least 10 children. By the Mid-80's the India population had outgrown the Black population and then the racism reversed by the Indian's in charge. Today, there is a void between Blacks, Indian's and the Moluto mixed race people, with the mixed race being treated the worst. The Indian's run the National Government, but installed a Black to run Georgetown. This is the most dangerous and corrupt place on earth. I loved living in Guyana but we were attacked twice in 2009 within two blocks of the US Embassy. Even in the 80-90s foreign investment failed when companies came to Guyana. People who got jobs ended up being robbed by their neighbors. It is the rule of the Jungle in Georgetown, where people or a family lives on as little as one USD per person. Imagine getting a job at a factory and coming home to get robbed of the little you earned. With a situation like this, VN will never aspire to take over Georgetown.
What ? Since i hear US im afraid lol, USA is literally the only big terrorist on this planet look who rules this country and what they do to poor countries
As a decedent of immigrants from Guyana, I think you should do a video on the past racial violence in Guyana between Indo and Afro Guyanese people. It’s a hardly talked about topic, and information on it is sparse. It may also tie into this news.
As a Venezuelan, I'm aware that this issue might be a distraction, we all know that. The sentiment here is complex, as there have been instances where our government, under Chavez with Maduro as Chancellor, seemingly conceded this territory multiple times between 2004 and 2011. Legally, we recognize that the land is Venezuelan, but also we know that people lives there and the economics are different, we don't have a war since 1903, we had several conflicts between 2001 and 2018 (specially from 2014 - 2017 and thats when massive migration started). Many of us see the current situation as potentially disastrous and prefer not to engage in consultations or processes that we feel are strictly governmental decisions, but the december 03 will be a massive day for propaganda from our govermment.
yes Brazil would intervene and Brazil is a very strong country with alliance with South American nations, USA, italy, swdeden, russia, india, china and they have the 12th strongest millitary Venezuela is like in top 40 but Guyana is weak they have a police force to keep law and order but the army is only like 10 thousand soldiers with no tanks, planes, or artillery
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
This video fails to mention that the territories claimed by Venezuela were part of the Spanish colonies until they were expelled. England saw the opportunity and took those lands for themselves as there was now a power vacuum.
I didn’t hear once why Venezuela claims the Essequibo as it’s territory, making it sound like it’s an unfounded claim when it also has its own origin from when the whole territory, including the Essequibo, was claimed by the Spanish empire before the British one did 🤷🏾♂️
We Venezuelans disagree that the ICJ only takes as valid the Paris Arbitration Award of 1899 (where Venezuela was not present and additionally it was a robbery of England, which always does it at an international level due to its influence at that time and Venezuela was not, that is called Injustice). On the other hand, the Geneva Agreement, signed between Venezuela, the United Kingdom and British Guiana (today Guyana) in 1966, established a mechanism to resolve the territorial dispute. because they knew that the Paris Arbitration Award was a FRAUD
I don't think Venezuela can afford a war right now. Guyana would probably struggle to handle an 150.000 strong Venezuela attack (which I think is the most they can handle) while Guyana at the very most can rise 50.000. However it wouldn't be a walk in the park. The terrain is horrible and the US would likely help Guyana with some nice equipment.
If they had built tunnels along their forest there was a chance by making venezuela have the vietcong experience. But this oil money is recent. They have been mostly extra poor and depressed (yup with high suicide rates). So, yeah they are a fragile country. Heartbreaking cause they have changed to a better less corrupt governance and have been trying to coppy cat the norwegian model putting oil profits in a sovereign fund.
@@puraLusa venesuela will have an hard time , Guyana isn't counting on us support they're counting on support from Brazil who's willing to help defend Guyana
mr redsjack, it will be a jungle war not a war on a big plain, all the venezulian tanks,and armoured personnel carriers would be useless and our small army is trained and know the terrain there so would fight in small groups , but we need to to buy the latest Guns with a 300 km range and get many drones to pinpoint their large army and supply lines from venezuela, also we will have an endless ammo supply ,venezuela will not have it as Iran and russia cannot supply them now, so sooner they will run out of Ammo, we really dont need to have more manpower, but if we do we can afford it,,Venezuela is broke, ruclips.net/video/Or5lWVhSJqo/видео.htmlsi=ZLEyIfpqpm8Q1ZzU
@@jeremiahhutson4075 The current President of Brazil was literally a "friend" of Chavez and enjoyed petrodollars at the turn of the millennium. He's not going to do anything for Guyana, just give speeches and make appeals.
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our.
We Venezuelan have being trying to go throught internatinal laws since ever. We have being since 1998 under the power of a lefty line of pigs who don't care about our country. I went to jail in 2014 for speaking up. Does the actual state of my country give the right to the rest of the world to play with the lines of our maps? I just don't think so, as I don;t think the line of my map draw by two europeans powers many years ago isn't legit, more when we were not in the table. But I mean... how could this even affect you? it doesn't your don't really care, it isn't your land. nor your country, and it's easy to talk about others lands. @@ArvindPersaud
Native Guyanese here and I always wished that Venezuela and our governments would find a way to settle this issue decades ago. For one, I do agree that Venezuela was shafted by America during the arbitration of 1899 when the US government sided with the UK. However, I never understood why they stood so heavy on wanting the entire Essequibo region. The Spanish/Gran Colombian governments had very few or little settlements/outposts of any kind in the disputed area. The ones they did have were situated on the coasts and near the Orinoco basin. Granted the British nor the Dutch had any outposts/settlements neither save for Fort-Kyk-Over-Al, but at least they had a presence of some kind in the region. Gran Colombia, their former overlord Spain, nor Venezuela had any significant presence in the disputed Essequibo region besides Spain's claims. The ideal situation would be to split the region in half and go according to the original agreement between Spain and the UK but tbf the areas near the Brazilian and Venezuela borders are largely uninhabitable with large indigenous pops. Don't think Venezuela wants just that lol. Won't make sense to give them the rest tho since all of the towns along the major rivers and the "habitable" areas all have diverse English speaking peoples. And from what I understand, the border state of Guayana in Venezuela is about as underdeveloped as the rest of Guyana. So not really sure what the endgame here is. Yeah there's the oil ofc, but that only accounts for literally one border district. What they're claiming "rightful ownership" over is six entirely different districts. TLDR: I play alot of paradox games (mostly EU4 and CK3) and this is basically just a newly formed Venezuela getting claims on its neighbors thru it's mission tree to reform Gran Colombia or something😂.
I'm Venezuelan, and while I do think our claim is historically legitimate, I also think starting a war to take it is just straight up stupid lol Like c'mon, what are we gonna get from Esequibo? Natural resources? We already have them, we just gotta get rid of the issue of illegal mining. Oil? We don't even need it, we already have the biggest reserves of oil in the world, just start using them bruh. Prestige? Yes, that's why the gov wants a war. To boost their popularity in a time where they're facing a lot of disapproval. Venezuela does have a capable army, that's why the government is still there, so I don't think Guyana has a nice chance against them unless the US intervenes (they most likely will). If this whole mess escalates, please try to stay safe in case the odds don't go in Guyana's favor.
Well, even if there was nothing there, not even oil or anything at all, I believe true Venezuelan nationalists would fight for this territory, since it is unfair what Great Britain did to Venezuela just because the country was in a vulnerable position, a true nationalist would defend every single inch of the country even if it's not worth it. Although obviously this government is not even a bit nationalist and all what they do is for their individual interests, but I still think it's not fair that Guyana is taking advantage of the Venezuelan crisis to exploit the resources of the area under claim, and then making themselves look as victims just because Venezuela is under a socialist dictatorship
@@j.g.d.s3142 i normally would agree with the nationalist claim but again it's not like there was any Spanish/Venezuelan presence in the disputed area. There were no Venezuelan/Spanish conquistadors that charted the region except for Alonso de Oleja who explored the mouth of the Essequibo in 1499. The British and the Dutch both had a much larger presence on the ground in Essequibo for about 2 centuries before the treaty of 1814 ceded the Spanish claims to the UK. Besides a few Catholic missions here and there along the coast, there was no Spanish presence in the area. The subsequent explorations commissioned by the Britsh government pushed the boundaries west based on both natural geographic barriers as well as the location of Spainish settlements/forts. And to your point that Guyana is playing the victim card while simultaneously exploiting the disputed area is nonsensical. The region is indeed being exploited by greedy Guyanese and foreigners who use Venezuela's bs claims that the region is in fact "disputed territory” to conduct unauthorized mining and logging operations. This was a major problem in the 80s and 90s when Brazil made dredge mining illegal in their country and then a lot of Brazilians crossed over into Guyana looking to make quick profits doing dredge work. The government and people of Guyana however have DEFINITELY not exploited the Essequibo as much as we should’ve. Most of the regions are largely uninhabited. At best there’s like 1 major road that goes thru the major towns, some private owned ferry companies, and lots of Amerindian communities. Venezuela has permanent claims to the region because their former colonial overlord had claims to the region. Spain only had said territorial claims because of the explorations they commissioned in 1499. Spain lost those claims in 1814, which they had for about 300 years, that they never capitalized or built on. There are very little ethnically or culturally distinct Venezuelans/Spaniards living in the Essequibo region today, nor were there any during the colonial and post colonial periods. So again, this isn’t a nationalistic issue.
@@lordr1c325 you have to remember that venezuela had not time to settle it's presence on the essequibo, as soon as they gained independence, the British tried to snack the Essequibo, and of course, competing against the world's greatest empire as a recently born nation in settlement is a lost cause
@@elyisusking3603 lol I completely agree that the UK definitely snacked up a larger portion than was originally intended. However even before newly formed Venezuela gained independence when the region was under Spaniard control, they didn’t create any settlements/forts of any sort. Not even a trading outpost. The explorers who later surveyed the region used the Cayuni river as the basis for the boundary since it was very obvious where Spanish/Venezuelan control was located.
As a Venezuelan citizen, I strongly oppose the proposed referendum on the Essequibo region. Instead of resorting to such a divisive measure, both parties should engage in direct consultation with the people of Essequibo to determine their genuine aspirations and preferences. This democratic process should allow the residents of Essequibo to freely express their choice, whether they wish to remain Guyanese citizens or exercise their right to self-determination under Venezuelan sovereignty.
Its like mexico claiming its old territory thats currently the usa. Venezuela just want rights to the oil, i hope this gets stopped, worried for the ppl of guyana
As a Venezuelan I must said, the referendums is just for show to keep the veil of"democracy". Most people here know voting doesnt work and is just so the government can say that this is still a democracy. Also neaither I or many people I know considers Guyana (Esequibo) as part of our nation, simply as a terreitroy in reeclamation. I'm really concerned since the last thing I want is a war just next door because our government wants
Guyana is not a territory in reclamation, Venezuela recognizes Guyana as a sovereign country, however it does not recognizes it's current borders, the essequibo is the zone in reclamation, it's different...
Venezuela no reclama Guyana, reclama el Esequibo que por derecho histórico ke pertenece, no inventes, tu ni eres venezolano porque los venezolanos sabemos que es lo que reclamos, porque es nuestro territorio
I would argue this would be next to impossible for Venezuela to pull of, as it should be. When there is a significant interest by American oil companies in the area and the Venezuelan economy in shambles I do not expect this to get far. The US would do as much as they can to stop it, and last time a south american country went to war to distract the population from looking into a ruined economic system, Argentina defaulted on it's debt and lost the Falkland war.. I don't see the Venezuelans making the same mistake.
indeed. Theyre just trying to get support from their local populace, since the argument for the "economic war" is no longer sustainable. On the other hand, one would've thought that nobody would repeat the mistakes of a centrally planned socialist/communist economy. And yet here we are...
@@simplyballing1592 Literally none of the modern day South American countries would exist today without European colonialism, expansionism and/or imperialism.
Speaking as somebody living in Venezuela, we've pretty much long since lived ignoring the "government" and whatever they do. Working class Venezuelans around my age just simply do not care about their charades anymore - Ever since they removed the price distortion between dollars and bolivares, the country has effectively started running itself, with a multitude of private businesses beginning to operate in the country at an alarming rate while the government effectively does nothing to regulate them in any significant capacity or even less provide them any kind of support. So, you should expect the results to be exactly what the government wants it to be, because the only people that still vote are the few psychotic fanatics, who are still delusional enough to think we live in a functional democracy, or people who work for government-sponsored jobs and get threatened to be fired if they don't go. And both of those groups already decided what they're going to vote for before they've even read the questions in the polls. Everyone else isn't going to bother - I've already even met several people in my age group that didn't even know this referendum was happening until mere days ago, and the response to that information was a loud and overwhelming sense of apathy. So where are things going to go from there? No idea - The government's approval rating hasn't reached 30% in well over half a decade (has completely plateaud between 20 and 26% as of the last 2-3 years). So if they're planning on starting some kind of war, good luck to them because the average Venezuelan will genuinely join a drug cartel before they even think of fighting for this piece of shit government and its farcical disputes.
The republic Suriname claims the part/ area between Acarai Mountains, Corantinriver and Coeroeniriver as part of their territory. New river doesn't exist. The name of New river was always Corantijnriver. How can a river that was named Corantijnriver years later after that called New River by Guyana?
Venezuela already has the largest petroleum reserves in the world and can’t effectively exploit them. They may want to invade to nationalize the up-to-date Exxon infrastructure and produce a lot oil as fast as possible until they destroy the reserve through over extraction and until they let the infrastructure deteriorate completely.
Starting a war to distract from a failing economy has worked well for Argentina, I'm sure it'll work well for Venezuela too
But Argentina lost the war and the Military goverment was very unpopular after that,do you think Venezuela would win such a war if yes, they are gonna get a lot of public support if not the goverment is gonna probably be more unpopular.
@@kremlkritiker2158 I think that was sarcasm :)
@@kremlkritiker2158 they were being sarcastic :)
To be fair, the survival of the entire RN invasion force hinged on 1 dude forgetting to override arming timers on the A-4's dumb bombs, despite being specifically ordered too.
sounds a lot like the u.s. 😂
“We will not invade Guyana” also “We don’t consider this region as part of Guyana” I see what they’re doing here..
Can't "invade" territory you already believe is yours.
@@troybaxterWell, the British Empire didn't understand that in the first place
How is the British Empire relevant to this anymore? At some point, these former colonies need to stop blaming the British/their former colonial overlord for all the problems they make for themselves. Singapore is filthy rich. Guyana looks to be making headway.
For real, South Korea was brutally colonized by Japan, divided, and then burned down in a war. And they have no oil or mineral resources to boot. Yet, they are a wealthy, developed country. What's Venezuela's excuse? 😒 @@j.g.d.s3142
Shades of Putin and Ukraine.....
As a person that is a Guyanese, I would like to see them try and invade us.
Venezuelas government is struggling with with economic and political instability, it's a classic move for authoritarians to pick a fight when in that position
Is that also why Putin invaded Ukraine?
you left out the heavy sanction part
@@kris5885 true but sanctions were somewhat eased last month, which would usually make them heasitant because they dont want the slammed back on full again
@@TheMotlias I just thought it would be at least fair to mention the sanctions when discussing their economic status
Mali, Ukraine, Israel/Hamas, Burma, And now VENEZUELA
A few minor points on the situation. Venezuela currently has 304 billion barrels of oil, (the largest in the world) Guyana has 11 billion barrels. Gas reserves are Venezuela 201 trillion cubic feet, Guyana 17 trillion. Oil/Gas reserves are not the reason. The real reason seems to be that the government of Maduro wants to test its support ahead of planned elections next year.
This needs more likes
In some case, the more Important numbers is the price of extration Per Barrel! all that 300 Billion of reserves means nothing if you can't get a profit out of it, or if Oil prices aren't incredibly high for a long time frame.
just check Venezuela situiation now.
@@MrUrze Um Venezuela used to be the 4th largest exporter of oil to the US BEFORE sanctions by that same US caused the number to tumble. They extracted a profit just fine for about a century BEFORE the US embargo. Unfortunately, that same embargo would also extend to any Guyana oil that they wish to sell after annexation. Lift the American embargo and they don't need Guyana. With the embargo Guyana won't change the equation. Guyana has nothing to do with the US embargo of Venezuela.
Yes
@@Samborondon11
Or maybe because this land belongs to Venezuela..
I feel like annexations are really on the rise recently...
world tension is rising
@@complexemotions338 hoi4 reference?
Don't you love greedy people needlessly causing W*rld W**s for their own gain 😊
@@infernalstan886is that a heckin hoi4 Vicky 2.5 reference 😮😮😮
@@complexemotions338 not 25% yet so the democracies cant guarantee independence
Ah yes
Venezuela asking its own population if they should invade Guyana
This reminds me of the "are you forgetting somebody's consent" meme.
I hate that I now associate international events with weird jokes
@@osheridan
Truly a world we live in if we can meme serious international affairs that result in the deaths of hundreds or even thousands of people
@@wilianrodrigues5280 in my defense, I'm only saying this because i don't think it will actually happen at all. If it does... yeah screw me
@@osheridan Oil is involved, so it will probably happen (unless the US reacts quickly).
Given the terrible economic situation in Venezuela, this seems like a play to distract to population from how terrible things are.
Venezuela is a failed state.
Not really. Especially since things have been bad there for a long time now, and if they deploy troops to fight some annexation war, it leaves less troops to keep the populace in line in case rebel groups form up and try and overthrow the government. The army in situations like those countries, mostly exist to keep the population in check, not necessarily to fight actual wars.
wars are only useful distractions for economically but socially unstable countries. Wars are expensive and dangerous for economically unstable ones.
I'd disagree, stuff will just become worse for the people of Venezuela, their discontent with their situation will probably grow due to war fatalities, growing insecurity due to the army being somewhere else, resources going to the army, etc. Society has changed to some extent (or a lot) since a recent similar war in the region, Malvinas/Falklands.
I'd agree if, idk, most Venezuelans are 100% Maduro fanatics that are willing to sacrifice themselves for whatever the guy says, which I personally doubt.
Just my opinion.
I’m seeing an extortionate money grab. They will either threaten to grab the land, or just take it, then claim the adjacent off shore rights. Then, they will demand money from the oil companies and Guyana under threat of further action including taking all of Guyana if not paid.
This is all part of the Axis of A$$holes plan to stretch the US beyond its military capabilities.
As a Venezuelan I can say: in my 40 years I was always in school, long before this government, the esequivo was called the "zone under claim" the inhabitants of that area were given attention only on the Guyana side, Venezuela never built nor cared about that territory. The people of that area do not feel Venezuelan (not even when Venezuela was at the head of Latin America) with the reserves and territory that Venezuela has, there is no need to fight for another piece of land. when more than 90% of Venezuela's fertile territory is not being exploited due to absurd laws and expropriations. The problem is not a piece of land. Leave those people alone and let's grow as neighboring countries
yeah but the regime needs a good ole crisis to distract his people, so there ya go
pero gringos robaron ese territorio como todo en su historia larga lol
@user-otzlixr then I guess you're laughing load now?
@@Kynnno
you are a joke lol@user-otzlixr
Oh boy, this move will surely help the already booming, great and powerful economy of Venezuela.
😂😂😂😂😂
Venezuelans are making trillions of bolivars, their economy must be so great!
Lol
Thing is that venezuela military is the only thing that didn’t decline, and only reason why the country isn’t in a civil war state
@@helast3916
Please, dictatorial militaries are corrupt and incompetent, only strong against small and poor nations. Or unarmed civilians.
Given the chummy relationship between Venezuela and Russia, it would be no surprise to learn the latter is supporting the former. Russia would love to see the US being forced to intervene, drawing all the media away from Ukraine and into the new thing.
Against Venezuela it will be a matter of week and Russia doesn't want to loose its only foothold in south America so they won't allow Venezuela to do it
@@baha3alshamari152as if russia can stop anyone from doing anything anymore, le lmao
Well it looks like Russia already supported Hamas and Iran, and it worked. The whole world took its eyes off Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if they were encouraging Venezuela as well.
@@crocodileguy4319
Venezuela relies completely on Russia and China since they are under sanctions
They can't survive without them and that's Russia ability to keep Venezuela in line
Well, Iran isn't doing so well having egged Hamas to attack Israel. Khameini is backpedalling and blaming Hamas now. It's a dangerous gambit.
I’m sure this referendum will be just as free and fair as every other Venezuelan “election”.
I wouldnt listen to the west though, when it comes to which elections are free and which are not. Especially the US. They decide that based on which leader they want to see leading the country in question. It must be an US friendly leader of course.
@@billcarson818 Hi Ivan.
@@billcarson818
[Perfectly valid statement from somebody who might not even be western]
"Yes, but have you considered that ALL VAGUELY WESTERN THINGS ARE INHERENTLY SATANIC"
Average internet conversation
There's an allegation of fraud election even in Wester countries. Everybody is cheating until they're not caught.
@@wamingo Hi bot. ;-)
As a fellow neighbor of that country, they always try to bully their neighboring countries until they realize they are starving to death. They sent a shit ton of tanks to the Colombian border and didn't do shit
Imagine being a Venezuelan who got away from their incompetent government to Guyana, only to have the government follow them there.
Broooo 😂😂😂😂😂
And is economic situation in Venezuela wasn’t bad enough…
Imagine being a Venezuelan who got away from their incompetent government to Guyana, only to have the government follow them there.
@@The-Aviating-Gamertheir inflation reach 234% last year 😂
@@The-Aviating-Gamer not bad enough? bruh we rank top inflation for yearssss.. 💀
Maduro seems determined to keep Venezuela on the path of failed statehood.
Or not. Imagine maduro did a referendum to forge an absolute no, it will legitimizes him against the pro-invasion internal criticism and give him authority to crack down on the military that might be using this conflict to get more internal power.
Sometimes what appears isn't what is. We will know what maduro actually wants with the referendum resolt cause he will fudge it to legitimizes his decision of yes or no.
Just like socialism intended
It's a failed state. Millions of Venezuelans have already fled the country. PDVA is ruled by the military.
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our.
Just cause our goberment is a punch of narcodictadors doesn't mean other countries can come and take our national goods.
@@carloshidalgo92who cares, you have enough oil and haven't done shit and it's de-facto been Guyana for 100 years, no Venezuelans live there
A move into Guyana could bring down the Venezuelan regime. Venezuelan soldiers love good salaries and perks out of corruption in procurement etc., and maybe some expected spoils from the conquered Guyanese territory. But actually dying or getting hurt for the fatherland is not their business. A small army of well-determined defenders could drive them back and result in an humiliating defeat for Venezuela that could bring down the Maduro regime.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Venezuela’s GDP per capita fell from over 12000 to less than 2000 with many Venezuelans forced to migrate to keep living. Now, after such a catastrophic fall, if GDP recovers a bit for example to 3000, it’s still a country in poverty for the majority.
olifrank6255 thats exactly what will happen
stop being goofy, we are still doing terrible@@raphaellall6270
@@raphaellall6270delusional
As a resident of the Guyanese Essequibo, I can say with all certainity that 99.9% of the Essequibians do not identify as Venezuelans and would never voluntarily accept Venezuelan id cards as their referendum would like people to choose.
Friend, I will be honest with you, you may be upset but I think that the essequibo is from Venezuela, but Venezuela is not ready for a conflict, I understand your sense of belonging and I respect it, but the English pirates were the ones who stole the essequibo from Venezuela
It is not ready either politically, economically or diplomatically for a conflict. As a Venezuelan, I do not support the referendum or the upcoming war, but the only thing I can tell you is that in the event of a war, I want you to know that not all Venezuelans want to go to war with you
Casi nadie vive en el esequibo actualmente, aparte que los guyaneses no son nativos sino africanos, mientras que los venezolanos sí al ser mestizos en gra parte.
Then you gonna have to get a VISA o leave the palce!
Venezuela saying it would not invade Guyana is like Putin saying he would not invade Ukraine
So it was not Déjà-vu!
You liberate obviously, not invade
this is not the same situation, Minsk accords had been broken
@@PepeCoinMania there was an accord between British Empire and Venezuela that determined the country border (except for the islands on the river that the border follows)
with what army?
It’s actually remarkable just how stable and war-free South America’s borders have been in modern times
That’s not to say there isn’t trouble WITHIN those borders, but you don’t have a lot of countries torn by Civil War like in Africa, nor are there any real cross-border tensions between neighboring countries to speak of like in Asia
The biggest crisis at the moment, Venezuela’s claims over much of Guyana, probably won’t amount to anything
Its because the last war. Brazil killed 90% of male population of Paraguay.
Don’t jinx it lol
They have different kinds of conflict that we don’t consider war but is just as bad. It’s actually pretty interesting to know all the different factions that fight and who is allied with who
the only reason we dont havee many wars is because the south american terrain have a lot geographycal blocks, its dificult to move
Say what?
I wonder what this invasion would even look like, because this region of Guyana is very underdeveloped. Which will mean that as soon as the Venezuelan army leaves its borders, it will end up in a vacuum (or rather a dense jungle with no roads but with tropical diseases, swamps, rivers, dense forests and other types of terrible terrain).
"...I wonder what this invasion would even look like..."
Not sure what it will look like, but the US will be blamed.
Vietnam part 2 eletric boogaloo :D
Anyone looking at map sees that it can be done either by sea or crossing brazilian territory. And to venezuela I say good luck with that 😂
theyre just spitting hot air. They're too dumb to invade anything.
Airdrop military into government centers. Only when you can't reach those centers directly, would a country try to approach them by land.
Oil: *is discovered*
Neighboring countries: "So, we've had a claim on that region for like 50 Million years, so that's ours, please give that back now"
LMAO
Aren’t Venezuela has largest oil reserves in the world ?
More than Saudi Arabia
@@allenk6373 And the USA is also somewhere in the top ten. Has that stopped them from invading and antagonizing oil-rich nations in the middle east? Nope
@@kaiserhhaie841 That's silly, the US never relied on freaking Iraq for oil
Venezuela is not even a functioning country how are they going to finance this whole thing
they wont lmao
Print dat money baby
Maybe they are just talking aggressively and they are not gonna do anything in the end.
Perhaps? by convincing its military financiers that it will eventually repay military debts by capturing and harnessing Guyana's incredibly valuable oil assets?
@@2drealms196but Venezuelan already has the largest oil reserves in the world…
Annexing territory as a distraction to domestic problems? We've heard this story in South America before.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
Great, commie bots!
@@raphaellall6270😂 cope
@@raphaellall6270 bro coping harddddddd
The west side of Guyana's territory is mostly undeveloped rainforest. Nothing one could easily invade, they'd have to build roads and infrastructure to even attempt.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270Uh that’s not true bud. Like not at all.
@@raphaellall6270please pass the pipe, I want a hit of whatever you're smoking
@@quietus13are u gayanese this stupid? Yall even got 10 war tanks
@@quietus13
Are you sure? Hallucinations might be too much.
Any time you learn the back-story of historical border conflict, you know it's only a matter of time before Britain enters the story.
Venezuela, you better focus on your economy these days.
what economy? 😂😂😥😥
Nothing to focus on
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270wtf are you talking about venezuela is a social democracy at best these are youtube comments
@@raphaellall6270 lol no its not
My mother has had a refrigerator magnet of Venezuela for decades now, I think. It always seemed a little odd to me since it had another dangling territory on the east of it. So I guess official policy has been to recognize it as their own territory for a while already. And now I know what the Essequibo crisis is about.
@@iNTERS22 the Haiti-Dominican Republic dispute ig
I grew up in venezuela every stupid map i ever saw had the esequibo included with a label that said "zona en reclamacion" which roughly translates to "disputed zone"
They never let that go
@@joseaca1010Bro don't be shy go get that Guyanian oil
@@houseplant1016 man, i hate venezuela so much, that country is a goddamn joke, i left it years ago and its always embarassing to be associated with it
@@joseaca1010 Yea I remember a funny sketch done by "zondag met Lubach Venezuela" years ago, sad to see the country of capybaras go so low
Imagine living in a country where it’s currency is useless, where the food is scarce while the government has the audacity to ask you by referendum whether they should go annex your neighbour or not rather than sorting out societies main issues. That’s outrageous.
I don't know what country you're talking about because since 2019 or so there isn't scarcity of food in Venezuela. Let me be clear that there indeed was food scarcity in Venezuela from 2016-2019 (I don't want to wash off the acts of our terrible government), but if you're going to talk about a country first get your facts up to date. Also we now use the US Dollar.
The people would agree because they need help and think this action will benefit them
The United States already has two war fronts to support in Ukraine and Israel, in addition to closely monitoring China's movements with Taiwan. It would be stupid for it to get involved in a jungle conflict with Venezuela... Nobody will support Guyana if Venezuela invades
As a venezuelan, I can tell you that most of us do hate the government, but at the same time we're very patriotic and wouldn't mind to invade Guyana to take what we see as ours
😂 I agree lololol
I’m shocked that it took so long for someone to threaten the sovereignty of Guyana or Suriname based on their offshore oil reserves.
Or based in documented history, maybe?
@@luchofelo ?
For your information, this claim is historical and has never stopped being claimed.
@@timmacsweet131 no one is threatening Guyana because of oil. This is a historical conflict and Venezuela has never given up on this in decades.
@@luchofelo whatever you say.
a Venezuelan navy ship lost a a battle to a German cruise ship
It fired upon the German cruise liner, and decided to go for a ramming maneuver when the German ship didn't surrender.
The cruise liner was designed for Antarctic exploration, thus having a reinforced hull, and consequently the Venezuelan ship sank while the German ship suffered only minor damage
That... is precious 😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭 The nazis that left Germany lost to the homeboy nazis in Germany lol
"Huh, never heard about this one, I wonder what is up"
"They found oil"
"Well of course........"
Keep in mind, Ukraine actually found tons of fossil fuel deposits in the Donbass and the Black Sea (around Crimea) just before 2014
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500ur correct, ukr natural gas is more than enough to power the whole of europe for 20 years. Venez oil is the bad quality tipe. Guianas I have no idea but if it's the top notch quality that explains the eagerness of the involved.
Russia foreign policy is agressive atempt to monopolize gas market price and not gas itself. That's why it surrounded europe in conflicts to block other competitors to sell via pipeline.
@@puraLusa tbh 20 years is enough for everyone including ukraine to abandon oil
Venezuela: We need that oil!
Everyone: Why?
Venezuela: To make Venezuela Great Again!
Everyone: But you have plenty of oil and have done a terrible job with it
Venezuela: But that oil is the solution!
Everyone *visibly confused*: "What?"
😂😂😂
Lol
Think that a band of old legal foxes are taking territory from your country, when by right it belongs to you, the fact that Venezuela has reduced prestige does not mean taking away what belongs to it
Guyana- "We are the fasteat growing economy" also Guyana-
#1 In Suicide Rates in Latin America
#1 In water and electricity problems for a Country of "many waters"
#1 Poor wages
#1 In domestic Violence fatalities
#1 in Rapes of Indigenous Women
#1 Corruption in the Caribbean
Etc….
@@DarlyaFaroesteThey aren’t part of Latin America, They shouldn’t be there anyways, the same with Haiti
@@DarlyaFaroeste and thst justifies war?
My mom and dad are from Guyana. My mom grew up on a farm in Essequibo. If this were to happen, I would feel inclined to help out whether it is with aid or training in the UK, then joining the military in Guyana. I would have never thought in my life that this would happen.
That seems very low from Venezuela. Utterly absurd. Don't worry pal, I don't think anyone will support Venezuela if they try to do something ugly.
Be well, greetings from Greece ❤
@@vanmars5718WTF mate, Venezuela has been so patient about the topic for decades, it has always been its territory
@@Ldkdh always been it's territory, while non e of the inhabitants speak Spanish as their native language, or feel Venezuelan, let alone latin American, sure🤣 let them fix their hyperinflation, their corruption , and their economic system as a whole first.
@@rajabouzeid8801 I agee with you about focusing on fixing current problems, thats why i think Venezuela should aboid War, but my point still remains, guyana was stolen by UK and they have been mocking Venezuela about the territory for so long and Venezuela has always been very patient about the topic.
@@rajabouzeid8801 I also don't desire the loss of more human lives due to this, but we shouldn't hide the truth
As a Guyanese American this is scary. There’s finally a boom in the economy for Guyana and I want them to grow. They don’t need war. It seems colonialism is back
I'm British Guyanese, I feel ya
Yep, the only difference is that the new colonizers like to claim they're anti-colonialist.
Venezuela doesn’t care about that fake country, they clearly want their stolen land (Esequibo)
Y are y not living in Guyana if its booming?
Venezuela is the "land of Bolívar" so dont be surprised if the goverment do such things
Hi, born and raised in Guyana here with a lot of Guyanese and Venezuelan friends.
Some information to add on.
1) The British guy hired to make the border for British Guiana incorporated FAR MORE LAND than what was illustrated on that map. When the official border was settled in the original arbitrary court, Venezuela wholeheartedly accepted it and was satisfied I would assume because they got back a great deal of land with the current border.
Edit: "Wholeheartedly" I was wrong to use this vocabulary as pointed out by people below; Venezuela was disappointed about the results but still accepted it.
2) Venezuela' gov't was satisfied with this ruling for decades and even resurrected a physical monument on roraima with Brazil and Guyana to mark the 3 way point where all 3 country's borders meet. This is definitive proof that there was no border dispute after and they themselves fully acknowledged Guyanese borders in their law.
3) The new grievances of the borders in the 1960s arose because one of the representatives of Venezuela in the 1st Arbitrary court case, died and left a piece of writing where he claimed that there was a conspiracy in which the Brits made a deal with the judge that was Rusian. Yes, >:edit: *modern day*:< communist Russia Britain and the U.S were enemies with. This was literally just one guy writing something on paper with NO EVIDENCE WHAT SO EVER TO BACK IT UP. He himself couldn't even support it as...he was dead. We don't even know if it was even him as it was submitted a year after his death. Venezuela has been given MANY opportunities to provide a single shred of evidence to support these claims and has fallen short in terms of convincing a court every single time. added: Guyana's stance is that 1899 rulings still stands; Venezuela's is that 1899 is null. Neither party concedes their claims so there needs to be arbitration and Venezuela needs to present evidence to the world court to back this up.
4) During the 1960s, the Venezuelan govt rewrote their text books to include the esequibo (Guyana's disputed) territory into their textbooks and teach that its their land to be reclaimed in the future. That's two entire generations indoctrinated to believe this baseless claim and so now, you can only imagine how that referendum will go and even how a lot of Venezuelans will feel about this dispute.
My opinions: Considering the horrible state of that country, this can absolutely be used as a way to take the focus off that corrupt government and present a form of "unity" for the nation as people will have something to come together for. We've seen how war time has worked well for the u.s in the past during the great depression when Franklin D. Roosevelt was in office. With decades and decades of indoctrination, the people most likely feel as though Guyana's new oil reserves are theirs and those resources in times of hyperinflation and massive poverty seem like good enough motivation and justification for them to support an unjustified and illegal invasion of Guyana in my opinion. Getting even more oil will not magically dig them out of the hole the greedy politicians put them in and those same rulers won't stop dipping their hands in the cookie jar.
Also, Unlike the Donbass, not a single person from Esequibo identifies themselves as Venezuelan. Everyone there is Guyanese, I have family from there and none of them will come out saying they're Venezuelans.
So if anyone comes out with such confusion, that's misinformation. update: I found out there are 24,000 Venezuelans atleast, in Guyana that fled hardships and violence from Venezuela. Some even claim there are as much as 80,000. The Guyanese attitude is that we have been welcoming them in with open arms. I see this as an issue because I have seen the social media of Venezuelan migrants claiming Esequibo as Venezuela's. If Maduro wants to take out of Russia's play book, it seems possible now. They can either fake an "attack" and claim Venezuelans in Guyana are in trouble, try to claim there are a lot of Venezuelans in Esequibo and that's justification for taking it without a fair trial or some of those migrants already here could be insurgents or just straight up turn on the hand that took them in. This is a sticky situation because to us, they are basically just people trying to live. There's no way we can predict what could happen. Best thing I think can happen is a revision of immigration processes to include thorough background checks and limit the amount of people coming until tensions go down.
You can search up:
"Guyana Uncut, Venezuela vs Guyana border dispute" on RUclips. That guy has wayyy more details on all this. He has a 2 part series encircling a lot of important facts on this matter in the form of two videos.
ruclips.net/video/0kktSNOzbMA/видео.html
=> Here's a layout of the timeline of events that have occured to the date of the video by the ICJ:
video title: "World Court throws out Venezuela’s preliminary objection in Guyana border dispute settlement case"
ruclips.net/video/5qUWqxpKueg/видео.html
www.ejiltalk.org/the-dispute-between-guyana-and-venezuela-over-the-essequibo-region/
mapsonstampsdb.com/issuing/Venezuela
Look at the dates and the stamps and pay most attention to the maps from the 1930s. From 1965 onwards, you'll notice it starts to include the disputed teritory (Esequibo) with text saying "Reclamacion de su Guyana (rough translation of Reclaiming your Guyana)".
+ I never would have imagined something like this would ever be a topic for my birth country. When I grew up there, we were a 3rd world country and a majority of us lived with little. It took several terms to oust corrupt politicians and finally get a just government in office that cared about the people. Just when we finally got a break and hit the jackpot...boom, threat of invasion. I can't stand for this and I pray to GOD this can get settled once and for all in the ICJ without any bloodshed. I will fully support any ruling in Venezuela's favor by the ICJ in a fair, transparent trial. Anything that would prevent my family from being in harm's way and innocent people on both sides too. My biggest dread is that they get caught up in an invasion. The modern Venezuelan army already has a bad reputation for murdering unarmed civilians as seen in the Kumarakapay massacre.
Edit: Remember to keep your discussions as civil as possible below brothers and sisters.
Thanku for ur personal input.
Just an add on: my aunt is russian from st petersburg with familly in dombas and their claim is pro-russian in dombass are new commers from russia and not original dombass people who were very fine with being ukrainian territory. They also claimed it's all about the natural gas found that dombas people were excited about selling to eu cause it pays good.
@@puraLusa I appreciate your input. I didn't knkw about the natural gas, but I personally have heard from Ukranians from the Donbass that Russian military personel went into that region before the Seperatists started claiming it as independent from Ukraine. Your aunt's family's claims fits perfectly with what I heard.
The territory of the Captaincy General of Venezuela when Venezuela was part of Spain extended until the Esequibo River. When Venezuela got its independence it maintained the territory of the Captaincy General of Venezuela except fot Trinidad and the dutch islands. Then came the british and got the Guyana territory from the dutch, which does not include west of Esequibo since that was venezuelan, but they go and say "actually all this land is ours", yeah the territory they claimed extended even more into venezuelan territory as you said but it isn't an excuse so that you can later say "well they got some back", when the reality is that the whole territory was venezuelan and was ilegally robbed from us.
thanks for the information .... the world will stand with Guyana if Venezuela invades next year
@@metarus208 the world not so much, informed people who see thru rulers greed - yes very much.
I hope people can investigate more about this matter and not form an opinion based only on this video, since this problem has a lot of details that this video didn't mention. It's not as simple as this is making it to be.
This video is highly anglo saxon biased. The 1899 arbitration is the most corrupt one I ever known about. The UK didn't allow a venezuelan representative, they considered Venezuela too inferior for them to be seated like equals in the same table, so the US represented Venezuela, and a russian arbitrator was the neutral third party. But he was a university teacher in various british universities. The arbitration process had 3 months to work, but only did so during 6 days. The process screams british victorian imperialism everywhere and very loudly. From then on, Venezuela has expressed its insatisfaction with it, and I couldn't agree more.
This is so biased, dont even show the histórica maps that clearly stablish Guayana Ezequiba as venezuelan territory. 1.- Maduro goberment is ilegitime and corrup, 2.- Guayana Ezequiba is venezuelan land
A video made by british people is anglo?!? Stop the presses
Thats why its TLDR - Too Long Didnt Read. Its meant to be a flash summary
Here is how Venezuela will keep its promise not to invade. Venezuela has stated that it would not invade Guyana. Venezuela annexes the territory east of the river by means of a referendum. Venezuela sends in troops to ‘its own territory’ to ‘reestablish order’ due to ‘separatists’.
Then US fighter jets declare skies about Venezuela as their property and rein hell on that silly dictatorship:/ Don't mess with US oil interests, it's the last thing you'll ever do.
A Venezuelan warship once sunk itself after deliberately ramming a Cruise ship. The military is such a piece of shit and they have to keep them in Venezuela to prevent a coup, protests, etc. However, the Dictator used to be a bus driver so hes really not the brightest so ig theres still a chance
@@unfrugal4603 I'm definitely not a fan of the Venezuelan government, but I must point out that 1) Maduro went into the world of politics way before becoming the President, so he's not just a bus driver who wake up one day in the presidential office. 2) The Venezuelan army has a lot of troops and equipment available, in some respects even more than my country, Brazil, which has a huge territory compared to Venezuela, so we can't discard the possibility of the Venezulan army being successful in a military operation like the one being discussed.
@@User-jr7vf That's true, I'm strongly against Venezuela's dictatorship but things to be recognized is that Venezuela has a good arsenal and it's intelligence web is strong too, I feel they play the fool to be subestimated on purpose.
So Venezuela wants to fight every free country in the western hemisphere. Don't think that will work out very well .
As a Guyanese I thank you for bringing attention to this current issue.
Hope everything goes well for ur country.
That is a rightful Venezuelan territory we all know that in South America they have full support from most countries in the region.
I'm sorry but I knew this one Guyanese dude who was in my science class and soley because of him being such an asshole I hope Venezuela invades your entire country 🇻🇪
@@ricardoxorge5157There’s no Venezuelans in that land, they have zero claim to the land
@@ricardoxorge5157 not sure if support, but at least South Americans know that Venezuela exists...
So many Venezuelans are running away from their country to Guyana and other neighboring countries.
Their government is a complete disaster the Venezuelan government should focus their energy on bettering their current land rather than fighting for more that doesn't belong to them.
One Love to Guyana.
Venezuela will fnish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates. All this despite US sanctions. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela stands against the USA and Israel and their war crimes! The USA is using Guayana as their pawn! they will fail!
@@letr4011 Venezuela is a failing economy with a failing dictator and there is no evidence that essiquibo is Venezuela's. Venezuela wants oil not land, get that straight. When Venezuela decides to attack, they will be met with American troops, Brazilian, and more for the Caribbean to protect us.
@@letr4011 that is pretty much what happened, and what somehow on most videos doesnt appear that info either, so it looks like "Ohh Venezuela is going to invade" and without the full contest. Doesnt mean that I agree with the dictatorship, but if you put that aside and go to the historical context it goes to Venezuela
That land belongs to Venezuela. Just because English rulers said otherwise doesn’t make it true when the UK obviously has the popular vote.
USA destroyed this country
I think I remember hearing that Brazil has started mobilizing their troops to defend Guyana, so I have high hopes that Venezuela will not be successful even if they do invade
Brasil es aliado de maduro.
Brazil is governed by a Maduro wannabe, they are mobbing... but to help Venezuela, specially when a small piece of Esequibo used to be Brazil after their disputes with The UK.
Brazil is with Venezuela
For now they are 'neighbors' but the Brasil main party line is not in agreement with Maduro's plan@@saredodevil
@@ErikPT
Son más neutrales no van ayudar a Guyana Británica.
Same old story.
"When you are a dictator in south America and your consense is dwindling, blame someone else and invade some place to raise the national spirit and distract the population from real problem, that in most of the cases is you"
Just like the corporatocracies of United States and other Western countries. Ignoring all the festering internal problems. Interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, instead of solving their own problems. Invading under the auspices of liberty and freedom; killing and pillaging than dare lecture others on morality at the United Nations.
Sorry to bust your masturbatory bubble, but Maduro is not a dictator.
It's amazing how people like you are unaware of history, yet talk so much about how they know about things they have never read about.
@@silvio2603Then maybe people "like you" could elaborate on the topic.
Yeah. This will be another Falklands war. Considering that Guyana has pretty strong ties to the US and the UK, they would have bombs on Caracas by the end of the night.
taking over your neighbour is SO IN this decade, so quirky!
i can't believe i laugh at that joke!!!
This is tragic!
😂
Wow I am certain this will bolster the prosperous economy and social stability of the glorious nation of Venezuela
God deals very well with greedy and corrupted, Governments.....You are living in the dark old ages where you believe Maduro's stance on Guyana's terrioritires can improve his country....How would you feel if someone invade your home and claiming it wrongfully ? Do you think that person or persons will prosper?????
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@raphaellall6270 pasting this on every comment doesn't make this nonsense true.
@@raphaellall6270 Enjoy the rat and dog meat you're eating.
@@raphaellall6270yeah, it's very easy to appear to be growing when your economy is shit and you could add a few million dollars to your GDP.
The same goes for your stupid inflation rates. It must feel quite an accomplishment to go from 1500% to 900%.
It was not in 1814 where frontiers where defined. Spain did in 1776 if you look for our territory in 1776 you can observe our map and our east frontier. Basically, British Guyana was just a little piece of land. British Kingdom established that frontier in 1840 because it was discovered gold and diamonds in the Esequibe river and it is surrounding parts. So they decided where the frontier was going to be.
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By 1814 I'm pretty sure it was still a Dutch territory and the Dutch were all the wayy in Orinoco .
Not Venezuela trying to grow their failed state empire 😭
"Let's all be losers together!!!"
@user-he3by8ut3mthey're not mutually exclusive
@user-he3by8ut3m Lmao
@user-he3by8ut3mit's both
it's been a shithole even before sanctions. I actually lived there, you shill@user-he3by8ut3m
Seeing how Venezuela manages its massive oil reserves…. If Guyana is annexed I’m pretty sure they will mess that up to… Venezuela should just focus internally instead of outward 😅
*internally but agreed
@@osheridan thx 🙏
ding ding ding! as a venezuelan myself, i dont want to see Guyana ruined by an inpet dictatorship. Also, they'll destroy all nature in Guyana as well - illegal mining with mercury in rivers is rampant in vzla right now, among with many other kinds of environmental destruction.
Guyana won't be annexed, as Guayana is only the terrirory east of the Esequibo.
@@alejandrosalazar7849 yeah yeah take all your wild fantasies to your bed when you are ready to sleep, just try to put a soldier on guyanas soil and you would see UK military power against your outdated russian shit, so good luck with that.
Guyana is a heavily patriotic country, they wouldnt sit back and let Venezuela do this . Guyana is prob the fastest growing and developing nation in the Caribbean and South America so it would be a terrible look on the international community if they sat back and let this happened. I live in a neighbouring country and have met a lot of both guyanese and venezuelian , they're really nice and hard working people, would be sad to see them go to war
Same but the issue it's geopolitical. Do You think of what happening it's Israel and palestine it's just a religion war?
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Im not sure about that bro, theres been a sharp increase in immigrants from Venezeula into my country.. most entering illegally . A lot of them coming here to get any kind of work they can to send money back to their families back home.
"Guyana is prob the fastest growing and developing nation in the Caribbean and South America" Yes... thanks to the resources that are IN our piece of the territory...
Guyana would get worldwide support! Not Venezuela.
Hmm forgot to mention that when Venezuela declared its independency from the Great Colombia, it marked its border at the Essequibo River (in accordance with the territory of the previous Venezuela as a spanish Colony) and the UK was okay with that, however, few years later when they were with their inner strugglings, Gold was found west from the River and the UK sent people over there and later the UK set unilaterally the Schomburg line; moreover, UK plotted with the USA (as it was the intermediary) against Venezuela in the International Tribune for the case (along with a russian jury) and that's how the UK got favored, funny thing is this plot was discovered and confimed in the 60's and that's the reason why Venezuela Rejects the 1899's arbitration
He reeeeally missed that particular fact! 😅
Well said
This true fact, Esequibo was stolen from Venezuela by British over 100 years ago
You really missed the part of it being a Dutch territory before being a uk one and the Dutch didn't hold the same view.
Maybe we could look into the historical explorations and settlements of the Spanish in essequibo that never existed
@@007mooo6
Si existieron, que los holandeses no lo hayan respetado las fronteras con el rio esequibo es otra cosa.
The precedents of Ukraine, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and of Gaza worryingly make a Venezuelan invasion of Guyana more realistic. Guyana would have no security guarantees from other countries, Venezuela would have an incentive to invade and other major world powers would probably be too occupied to focus on this situation.
Yeah, but Guyana is fortified by Amazon jungle, it would be a logistical nightmare for Venezuela to launch such operation penetrating the jungle, especially with their near-death economic situation
It's a potential war over oil, being fought on the other side of a US lake, where no other country is in any position whatsoever to provide Venezuela with any help. Maduro knows an invasion would provoke a US attack. This is all bluster. War as a continuation of (domestic) politics.
Uk, Usa and brazilians companies - u think they don't have a strong lobby for big boys military to intervene?
@@DevSarman Venezuelans and Brazilians we use to live on such jungle conditions!
What makes you think the US doesn't have a lot of military to intervene?
Venezuela has made these claims for a long time. When I was there in 2008, I remember seeing many images of the Venezuelan map including this huge chunk of Guyana. Only recently have large oil reserves off of Guyana's coast been discovered and started to be exploited, mostly with the help of Exxon-Mobil. No wonder Venezuela wants it now more than ever, and it's a great distraction for their myriad economic problems. If Guyana starts exporting tons of oil (which will probably be the case given their small population of only around 800,000) I certainly hope that they will learn lessons from their neighbor about what NOT to do with oil wealth. Time will only tell.
over a century we have that claim, not recently.
Guyana will become the next megarich petrostate
yeah, read my first sentence. I said that Venezuela has made these claims for a long time.
That territory belong to us but the war is not the way. Also we are under a dictatorship, basically the worst moment to discuss this matter.
The dictatorship is using this as excuse to stay in power
I tend to think they won’t actually invade simply because the geography of that region makes it pretty much impossible. I think this is just another thing the Venezuelan government is using to bolster its own internal propaganda and narrative and to increase the extreme nationalism they’ve been promoting, they have a narrative that “the world is against Venezuela and has been since their inception” which, there’s some amount of truth to that actually (not the world, but the West) which is why this propaganda has been effective for the last 30ish years, but it’s misleading and deceptive too plenty of the time, especially when it comes to this particular issue. Venezuela got a lot more out of the original border dispute because they had America’s help, if it weren’t for us the Brit’s probably would’ve tried taking the whole claim they had. If Venezuela does go through with an invasion, it will be a giant failure and probably lead to the military turning against the government.
As a Guyanese i honestly saw this coming. Im actually disappointed
Hope my country (Brazil) helps yours! 🇧🇷🤝🇬🇾
Give back Venezuela it's land and Suriname it's land. As a Trinidadian I support Venezuela and Suriname. 🇻🇪🤝🏼🇸🇷
Venezuelan here. Finally we will recover our territory stolen form the British
@@JuanGarnicaVerablood will be shed over land. Yall are stupid and only adding fuel to a growing WW3
@@triniscoutyuh chat too bloodclaat much. Mind your own business and also understand we do not need war in our region or more fuel to a growing WW3
What's crazy is Guyana only has a population of just over 800,000. That's really scary for them.
Tbh there are probably more Venezuelans who would rather be apart of or annexed by Guyana than the other way around.
Nah, nobody here wants to be part of Guyana.
@@TheFi0r3 i think it was a metaphor...
@@TheFi0r3 And nobody in Guyana wants to be part of Venezuela. What's your point?
@@NLTops But you occupy a land that legally belongs to us according with historical documents
@@herluisalvarado8366 I don't occupy any land. I live in the Netherlands, which I am native to. Ironically, part of that land was once ours too. But it doesn't now. Just like it doesn't belong to you now. The people who live there are Guyanese.
Whatever claim Venezuela creates for itself, it doesn't justify conquest or annexation. Guyana is a recognized UN member and its borders are exactly where they should be.
So I don't know what "historical documents" you're talking about. But the video is quite clear on how international law ruled on the matter, decades ago. A ruling which Venezuela accepted at the time.
An invasion of Guyana simply puts Venezuela more on the side of authoritarian Russia., Of course, Venezuela will suffer consequences for it if they do so.
As a brazilian I think Venezuela cannot go for the Esequibo territory without also ending up in conflict with Brazil. Because part of the contested territory that Venezuela claims, also has an area that overlaps with an Old Brazilian territorial dispute that dates back to when Guyana was a British Colony, this dispute was put to a international arbitration led by the then King of Italy who decided for a British win over the dispute and thus Brazil abided to the decision and let go of over 19km². This was the only territorial dispute that Brazil has ever lost, and funny thing is, it was later found out that the Italian King favoured the British in his verdict because he didn't like the brazilians 😂 that piece of S*. Anyway this dispute was known as the "Questão do Pirara" or the "Pirara Question".
So if Venezuela annex the Esequibo which has parts of our former territory it will lose its legal validity because we handed over the territory diplomatically to Britain in which Guyana inherited with its independence. If Guyana no longer possess the territory then the dispute is open again and Venezuela will have to let go of it or go to war with Brazil.
In this case, I think that the best thing would be that Brasil and Venezuela could reach an agreement for this case.
-- you cannot say that "venezuela CANNOT go for the essequibo"....because of a small plot that Brazil has an issue with. They can go for the essequibo, and set aside that small piece. In fact, what if they/venezuela promise Brazil to give Brazil that piece, IF brazil cooperate in Venezuela's annexation of the essequibo ??.
They also have a dispute with my country suriname in the south east tigri region.we must not help guyana they are traitors.
O Brasil não vai intervir. O Maduro está falando de invadir agora pois ele sabe que o Lula não vai fazer absolutamente porra nenhuma para impedir ele.
A única coisa que faria o Brasil parar a Venezuela seria pressão internacional, ou se o Lula perceber que isso deixaria ele internamente extremamente impopular, algo que dificilmente vai acontecer.
E sonho seu achar que o Lula, o homem que viu a refinaria da Petrobrás sendo invadida e que defende a decisão até hoje, irá defender interesses brasileiros em território alheio, ainda mais interesses de questões de 100 anos atrás, é mais fácil ele enviar tropas brasileiras para ajudar o a Venezuela.
Tu realmente acha que o bostil vai fazer alguma coisa se os hermanos invadirem a Guiana?
This decade is truly a “Try Not To Invade a Neighboring Country Challenge (Impossible Edition)”
I wanted to say that Czechia is playing on easy mode given our location deep inside the EU, but then I remembered that during covid, we had some Polish border police accidentally "annexing" a chapel close to the border for a few hours. 😂
hmmm... i like your very telling title. lets see, guatemala has its eye on belize, communist china is clawing at taiwan, venezuela 's empty stomach wants to sate itself with guyana, and im surprised that iraq has said nothing about annexing its 19th province. the bottom line is that the general population of the aforementioned "invadeable" countries (yes i said countries) just want to live in peace, make a living, and provide for their families. meanwhile the countries that have "been wronged by history" want to bring annexation, invasion, or bloodshed to innocent people. whether its right or wrong how the boundaries were settled by the colonial masters, it does not justify the claims to threaten, annex or take military action in any of these 4 cases.
its probably true that many countries wont send troops into guyana. american and british troops have commitments else where in the world. i dont see them or caricom in guyana. and its probably true that venezuela will send forces into the small cities and villages of the essequibo by air and sea and have the logistical capabilities of sustaining a force. however like everything else mismanaged in venezuela, the collapse of a long term presence in the essequibo would be inevitable. it would not be because of guyanese resistance. and if the invasion were to humiliatingly fail, then odds are the caracas government, that sent its young men there, would also be subject to change itself. galtieri did not last long after his foray into the malvinas/falklands.
and after that day of failure comes , venezuela may have to contend with british or american bases in the essequibo or elsewhere in guyana. and thats why it should be impractical and farsighted to occupy the essequibo. the last thing venezuela needs is more sanctions and us or british forces near their border or seas. once again the new colonial powers would win in south america. its only the innocent people of guyana and venezuela that would suffer. there is no need for american or british forces to be on the continental south american soil. a venezuelan incursion into the essequibo would only invite more meddling by outside forces. instead of worrying about the territorial injustices of the past, venezuela should stay out of the essequibo for the sake of itself, the entire continent, and the future. and lets not forget that there are already venezuelans in essequibo who are fleeing venezuela for a better life (much like the guyanese who fled to venezuela many years ago). i dont see those people wanting the long arm of venezuela in the essequibo either.
ditto for guatemala eyeing belize. there are so many innocent people who just want peace, to be left alone, and to live without fear of other governments starting chaos and bloodshed over past territorial grievances.
I swear this is so true, cough Hungarian irrenditism cough
lol true
Tommorow im going to have a test about South America. Did not expected Venezuela attacking Guyana today 😭
I recommend that you carry out a better historical investigation of what really happened during the 19th century with the Essequibo issue. Essequibo was Spanish territory during the colony
Is it coincidental that since America pulled out of Afghanistan half the world is getting Annexed...
Yes, definitely
Some anexing was done while usa was in afghanistan.
annexation is a constant throughout history
The US is falling by the way side, so the sharks are circling their victims
@@chaosXP3RT You are insane and delusional if you believe that, lol.
As a Caribbean person who's been to Guyana, and learned about regional geography in school, I've only heard Essequibo pronounced "eh see kwee boe", and Starbroek, "Star-broke".
It's crazy that I live so close and I only found out about Venezuela's referendum today.
Also it's crazy that the Essequibo is spoken about in the context of being Spanish/British/Venezuelan/Guyanese, when Amerindian people lived there first and still continue to live there today
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 🤣🤣🤣
@@raphaellall6270 You're joking, right ?
@@raphaellall6270Venezuela sent Humanitarian aid to Palestine but that could be optics. Venezuela is affiliated with Iran who backs Hamas amongst other Militants in the region.
Iran has used Venezuela as a proxy to target their own foreign nationals or former nationals. There were plots to kidnap an Irani woman who criticized the Hijab and send her to Venezuela to then be sent to Iran to face their courts.
Venezuela ain't a good country and is affiliated with bad people and bad people only.
@@raphaellall6270 i usually dont comment on youtube, but, as a Venezuelan, wtf?
As a Venezuelan, I know that the historical context dictates that the Essequibo is rightfully part of our territory, however, Guyana has been an independent nation for decades. Even though this territory was taken from us by the British and whatnot, it's ludicrous to believe we can actually just ignore the fact that Guayana is a country with its own currency, language, culture and everything else. There's an absolute 0 chance annexation is going to happen.
Besides, we in Venezuela have a thousand more problems we should be dealing with besides petty territorial disputes.
As a Venezuelan I am also very aware that all this circus is to divert attention from our current situation and from future elections. But I’m extremely concerned that this is actually working because most people don’t seem to realise this and seem to be developing these nationalist sentiments
@@nelsondhg Chavistas are and always will be idiots. And I agree, this whole Essequibo business is stirring up a lot of nationalism (though probably forced by public institutions) that seemed to come out of nowhere. Let's hope there's enough of us who are actually lucid enough to see through the ruse and for this not to influence next year's elections too much (not that I have a lot of confidence the elections will change something, but still).
Thank you for being a rational person.
Very wise
Ummm oil. Money talks and they have there eyes on it. Wars have started for less.
As a Guyanese living in Guyana thank you for bringing attention to this issue
Can you please express some of your insights as a citizen of Guyana? When I was learning about the countries I remembered Gyuana as the one I knew nothing about at all.
Esequibo belongs to Venezuela, and I don’t support the government
@@christopherstein2024I can offer you my opinion as a Hispanic, I am Peruvian, many Venezuelans live in my country. Guyana has recently discovered oil, and it was speculated that it would be the country with the highest economic growth in the world. Venezuela has always been claiming the Eseqibo. and with this new news they are preparing to intervene. The majority of Venezuelans are not in favor of their government, however the Essequibo claim comes even before the communist dictatorship. Possible reaction from other Hispanic countries. only vague rumors: Mexico, its president already said that they would support Cuba and Venezuela with everything. Brazil: Rumors of possible intervention because they want to take French Guiana. Other more pro-Western countries such as Argentina, Peru, Panama, Chile and Uruguay will surely position themselves against Venezuela, but these countries do not have the military capacity of Venezuela, Mexico or Brazil.
@@DavidCelestialKnight como Brasileiro poso te garantir que NÃO queremos nos envolver nesse tipo de conflito, sobre Guiana Francesa, nada contra eles se fossem um país e não um estado da França, europeu não tem que se meter aqui na América do Sul, mas não temos intenção de invadir ninguém. Se o Lula presidente atual do Brasil apoiar a Venezuela ele estaria dando um tiro no pé, pois estaria dando munição para a oposição, a eleição aqui foi 56% a 44% então acredito que ele não faria isso, nem a base aliada o apoiaria, caso favorecesse a Venezuela e eu sou de esquerda e apoio a causa Guianense. A mentalidade do Brasileiro é " o que não for Brasil, na América do Sul e Central .... deixa pra lá ...."
@DavidCelestialKnight os 3 únicos países que temos uma preocupação maior, em garantir uma estabilidade e ajudar no crescimento deles é Argentina, Uruguai e Paraguai. Os outros estão muito longe dos centros urbanos do Brasil ... não chega muita coisa aqui ... então não nos importamos muito com eles. É lamentável do meu ponto de vista, mas é o consenso nacional....
I truly missed something in the news.... Venezuela is gonna annex WHAT?
Guyana, a neighboring country? Geography not a strong suit?
Seriously wouldn't this be Big news
Guyana, a rapidly developing former British colony in South America 🇬🇾
@@ClappertonKaongaAP and Reuters reported on it last week?
@@mormacilThere's no need to be so condescending in your comment, Not everyone is in the loop on some geopolitical happenings or geography at that. 🤦🏾♂️
Sounds like the Russian situation. This situation is known to people familiar with the region. They can’t govern their own country with their citizens fleeing by the hundreds of thousands but want to annex territories of another country.
ruclips.net/video/D1ArmHK20ic/видео.htmlsi=dFU5wwwi9Y5tG1bS
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our.
@@carloshidalgo92 Ah yes, 200 years ago the situation was X therefore it is yours. I suppose the UK should also invade India?
Fallacy - India was supposed to be selfgovern by indias and Venezuela should be govern by Venezuela, under what you are saying Spain should go back to own all Latin-American. Just cause while we were gaining independent the british came and toke advantage of the situation doesn't meant to say the land isn't our. But is pretty easy to talk about a country that' has nothing to do with you. @@LuKiSCraft
@@carloshidalgo92Borders change. The population if that region is basically zero, so Venezuela does barely have a historic or ethnic claim to this region. The UN deemed it part of Guyana. Venezuela even accepted it for a while. What used to be in the past does not matter, otherwise there would be endless wars.
The US would never allow a war of conquest so close to home. They’d have to be mad to try. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if Brazil also were to intervene.
I doubt it, the president is Lula, literally one of the politicians who took the most advantage of Chavismo's petrodollars in the oil boom. His modern connection to Chavismo is not as strong as it was to Chavez, but...
Well USA is actually one of the biggest terrorist country on the world, if they are capable of destroying a small country like Haiti that didnt deserve that, they can do anything. And you know it
I hope Venezuela does not do this. The best thing is the overthrow of the Venezuelan regime by the people and the establishing a democratic government After reforming Venezuela's government, Venezuela can become so incredibly rich that Guyana itself would aspire to become part of Venezuela !!
Best Wishes to Venezuela and Guyana From Iran
🇮🇷❤️🇻🇪🇬🇾
Non regime iranians rock!
U are the coolest 😁
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative.
Maybe Guyana can take some of Venezuelan territory
@@carloshidalgo92 no he doesn't show it here cause colonialism isn't an authority.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Colombia ther you have @@puraLusa
In other words, a shame referendum close to the Crimean 2014 one.
Oh boy, I can already hear the UN from here.
At least in the Crimean one, Crimeans actually voted (The results were tampered with, but it does seem likely that the pro-Russian position would have won regardless) but they actually were asking the population in question
This is even more insane (Not that the Russian invasions weren't)
This is somehow even more idiotic than the Crimean referendum! Back in 2014, the referendum was held within Crimea. What is about to happen concerning Guyana, would be like if in 2014, the Crimean referendum was held within Russia with Russians voting on whether they should annex Crimea or not. The December 2nd referendum is going to be held within Venezuela with Venezuelans voting on whether or not they should annex Guyana, with no one in Guyana getting to vote! So, yes, this is a sham referendum for sure!
It's not even that... a referendum in Crimea could have been legit if not done under occupation and all the other stuff.. but asking the venezuelans about the sovereignty of other people is absurd.
@@Me-ui1zy Indeed, this is asking Russians if they would like to annex the Balkan states. And if they don't say yes already out of their brainwashed 'free will' you just make sure the final result says so anyway and you go ahead and annex it in the name of the 'people'.
To be fair: most wars aren't started by first asking the citizens if they would like to start a war. Usually, the ruling class decides to start a war and doesn't ask anything to the people having to fight the war. So maybe we can celebrate the progress here :P
@@Me-ui1zyOf course they did, after the ones who did not agree with putin got erased
1. Have shitloads of oil
2. Manage to ruin your economy despite of that plus sky high prices
3. Try to annex neighbouring country to get more oil
JINEEOOZ!!!
Oh I have seen this episode before. It didn't go well for the aggressors last time.
@@jonathanbowers8964Deja vu from the gulf war is strong with this one, two oil state one that is much bigger than the other want to go to war with their smaller neighbor due to territorial dispute and for oil. The only thing that is missing here is a huge coalition that will stop them.
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@raphaellall6270 Oh come on! Don't you see you've just made a Gulf War comparison even stronger? Learn some history, mate!
300% inflation in 2023, prognosed 200% in 2024. Sure it's down from 65k, but it's like: when you reach the rock bottom, the only way is up. I tell you what: in 90s russia we've considered those 'falling' numbers a catastrophe.
Sending aid to Palestine?! In light of what's said before it's clearly a PR stunt, but mate! Palestinian leader is worth $5B. Just he alone, not counting his closest minions. It's trice as much as the yearly UN aid to Palestine: $1.6B. Which is a half (!!!) of the whole UN budget of $3.1B. Venezuela sends aid to Palestine... yeah, you can readily see the spiritual connection. Why don't you send help to poor struggling russia, like such advanced countries as Iran and North Korea did?
Speaking of russia - the way you speak is what I've heard all around me right before russia started its occupation wars. And while the end of the war is yet open, it sure didn't go as expected for the aggressor.
Why is Venezuela important to Russia?
Russian oil companies are involved in major exploration projects for oil and mineral resources in Venezuela, including valuable rare earths. This Latin American country has become one of the main buyers of Russian weapons and weapons systems.May 6, 2023
God please don’t let another autocrat invade another democracy.
The biggest dangers always come from democracies
@@xAnonymousComediatrue it’s scary how many countries the evelious Sweden invaded in the past 80 years😱😱😈
@xAnonymousComedia ah yeah all those world wars started by democracys
To be fair Guyana is a fail Democracy and Venezuela isna dictatorship, but also, Esequibo is a territory in dispute, and has being for decades.
@@xAnonymousComediame when i like war and dictators
Guyanese Essequibian (writing this comment from beautiful Essequibo) here. AMA.
Also how is Venezuela even in a position to do anything
They are a failed state and dictatorship, Dicktatorships keep their power by using another interest group and or country as a scapegoat to blame or use for popularity if thing go sour. Dicktatorships keep their power not only by force but also by propaganda.
Weak sanctions
Much bigger population and soldiers than Guyana
@@aoidev3809 Tbf tho we need the oil so weak sanctions are good
@@aoidev3809have you heard nothing about the economy?
It's the 4th question on the referendum that makes things clear by telling citizens of Venezuela that Guyana has acted illegally and violated international law.
After that it's obvious what answer voters are expected to give regarding invading Guyana
and what answer will displease the Venezuelan government.
It's like a referendum in which one question includes saying that
Mr Smith has acted illegally and has stolen bsnk funds
and the next question asks if
Mr Smith should be imprisoned.
It's like when I once voted on a referendum about abolishing monarchy and it was written something like "the kings are robbers keeping all our money for their luxury, illegitimate since nobody voted them, an useless obsolete feudal error from the dark ages, this and that... So, knowing all this, do you think we still should maintain them as heads of state? -YES -NO" I really couldn't believe it how all that was literally written in the paper and it wasn't neutral at all
Britain and the US would back Guyana 100%. Plus, Brazil and the Caribbean community will stand with Guyana. Venezuela will become even more alienated.
They're asking their own citizens vs the citizens of the people in the region... I don't think the Venezuelan government knows what the definition of a referendum actually means.
Even some venezuelans living here are not aware of what is going on. Some have no phones and are not on internet to know what's going on. Sorry for some who don't know. I forgive them
I'm Venezuelan, and honestly I'm horribly scared for this war, the government is clearly only doing it to stay in power since they have the pressure of the UN and EU on them to have actual fair elections instead of stealing them like they always do, and this is a very nationalist and retrograde country, people are starting to support the dictatorship just because "hey that territory is ours.", my say in all of this? It isn't, it never was, Venezuela never controlled that territory, Britain just basically gave it away before Guyana became independent and Venezuela has been claiming it since, I feel like we ought to be understanding and human in all of this, Guyana is a country already plagued with geopolitical issues to the east and south of it, they have managed the territory for longer than we ever have, they are a former colony of Britain so even then they deserve it more, and it's not worth going to war for it.
Hoping here the government won't do forced recruitment like they used to a couple years ago, if they do I'm getting dragged to war to die all to keep some tyrant in power.
What are you talking about, I'm Venezuelan too, if the British steal Venezuelas land what can Venezuela do? Nothing.
The Essequibo is Venezuelan period.
The PSUV is the largest party in Venezuela. the Chavistas are the biggest group in Venezuela. The pitiyanquis like Capriles, MCM and Guaido are TRAITORS!
@@filipesmits2157A part of Essequibo was Brazilian territory around the Leathem side of Guyana. British Guiana gained that territory diplomatically in 1904 , so the whole of Essequibo was never Venezuelas especially at Leathem
This territory was always Venezuelan and this problem was settle with the dutch by making the Esequibo river as the natural frontier of our territories.
The problem is that British came here and claimed as theirs, even dare to occupy other states like Bolívar and Monagas. What is your answer? That they should also have annexed those states too? Basically giving away national territory.
Try to take land from the British and see what happens. But we? We then should just sit and see how we are stolen right?
Japan attacked China (yet another time) 2 years prior to WW2. I wonder if that (yet another) Russian attack on Ukraine is gonna be remembered as a similiar "prelude" to WW3.
We have certainly seen a Pandora's box of frozen conflicts starting up again. Nagorno-karabakh, Gaza, Ethiopia, Sudan and all the military coups in Francophone west African countries.
@@Dorgpoopand before russia myanmar coup. Ya, seems like a prelude to something bigger. Thing is, albeit regional guiana is actually uk and usa interests so - that makes it way more of a sign than anything else.
we're so screwed if all of this has a chance to go nuclear, even a limited exchange would be bad, also the global temp at one point temporarily reached the 2 degrees celsius, wonder how much the bloodshed is going to contribute to further planetary ecological destruction@@puraLusa
@@Dorgpoop
All the RUSSIAN WAGNER military groups in Africa, you mean.
New Axis of evil is behind these conflicts: China, Russia, North Korea, Iran.
As a guyanese 🇬🇾 we will fight for our land.
I’m rooting for Guyana 🇬🇾 fuck Venezuela
and lost
as venezuelan, we will too.
We in the US will certainly help y'all out. We have long hated Venezuela and even our most isolationist elements have political incentives to support y'all should it come to that.
@@HistoryNerd808usa attacks venezuela and all of south america will turn against the usa
As long as Guyana is serving US- companies to explore and mine the crude oil, they have nothing to worry as long as the oil reserves lasts. However, they need to make sure that the money earned from this oil boom is invested in other more sustainable industries particularly in the 'disputed' area. This is the challenge for Guyana not to fall into the "Dutch Disease'.
It is the Marxist disease that Guyana needs to fear. Her past in the 1960s when they destroyed everything from the buildings to the railways that represented England, their refusal to pay their soverign debts to the international community, resulted in an 80% black marist racist takeover that treated the people who came from India as less than equal. The Indian's then had a slogan put into practice about One-Generation where every Indian descent family would have at least 10 children. By the Mid-80's the India population had outgrown the Black population and then the racism reversed by the Indian's in charge. Today, there is a void between Blacks, Indian's and the Moluto mixed race people, with the mixed race being treated the worst. The Indian's run the National Government, but installed a Black to run Georgetown. This is the most dangerous and corrupt place on earth. I loved living in Guyana but we were attacked twice in 2009 within two blocks of the US Embassy.
Even in the 80-90s foreign investment failed when companies came to Guyana. People who got jobs ended up being robbed by their neighbors. It is the rule of the Jungle in Georgetown, where people or a family lives on as little as one USD per person. Imagine getting a job at a factory and coming home to get robbed of the little you earned. With a situation like this, VN will never aspire to take over Georgetown.
What ? Since i hear US im afraid lol, USA is literally the only big terrorist on this planet look who rules this country and what they do to poor countries
Stand strong Guyana 🇬🇾 ❤
Nah papa Maduro deserves that black gold
Guyana will likely fall in the event of an invasion
@@galatheumbreon6862 kiev in 2 weeks...
@@dillamadukes21 Ukarine is the second largest country in Europe, guyana is really small
As a decedent of immigrants from Guyana, I think you should do a video on the past racial violence in Guyana between Indo and Afro Guyanese people. It’s a hardly talked about topic, and information on it is sparse. It may also tie into this news.
As a Venezuelan, I'm aware that this issue might be a distraction, we all know that. The sentiment here is complex, as there have been instances where our government, under Chavez with Maduro as Chancellor, seemingly conceded this territory multiple times between 2004 and 2011. Legally, we recognize that the land is Venezuelan, but also we know that people lives there and the economics are different, we don't have a war since 1903, we had several conflicts between 2001 and 2018 (specially from 2014 - 2017 and thats when massive migration started). Many of us see the current situation as potentially disastrous and prefer not to engage in consultations or processes that we feel are strictly governmental decisions, but the december 03 will be a massive day for propaganda from our govermment.
Venezuela shouldn't dare do that. They just want to distract themselves from the problems they are currently facing.
yes Brazil would intervene and Brazil is a very strong country with alliance with South American nations, USA, italy, swdeden, russia, india, china and they have the 12th strongest millitary Venezuela is like in top 40 but Guyana is weak they have a police force to keep law and order but the army is only like 10 thousand soldiers with no tanks, planes, or artillery
+ Guyana has the entire might of practically ever Caribbean military, Cuba to be decided.
bro they have a few armored vehicles 4600 active and 300 reserves Venezuela has 1,5 million tropps and fighters, tanks @@summaz_
Venezuela will finish 2023 with one of the highest economic growth rates in Latin America. Inflation is falling. Food production is up. Venezuela just sent humanitarian aid to Palestine. Venezuela just finished in the top 10 in the Pan American Games in Chile. THE VENEZUELAN REVOLUTION MARCHES ON!
@@chadgaming8071 If you think this would be a 1 on 1 between Venezuela and Guyana, I've got really, really bad news for you.
This video fails to mention that the territories claimed by Venezuela were part of the Spanish colonies until they were expelled. England saw the opportunity and took those lands for themselves as there was now a power vacuum.
It’s was never Spanish, if you visit the area you’ll see Dutch monuments, they speak English.
I didn’t hear once why Venezuela claims the Essequibo as it’s territory, making it sound like it’s an unfounded claim when it also has its own origin from when the whole territory, including the Essequibo, was claimed by the Spanish empire before the British one did 🤷🏾♂️
We Venezuelans disagree that the ICJ only takes as valid the Paris Arbitration Award of 1899 (where Venezuela was not present and additionally it was a robbery of England, which always does it at an international level due to its influence at that time and Venezuela was not, that is called Injustice). On the other hand, the Geneva Agreement, signed between Venezuela, the United Kingdom and British Guiana (today Guyana) in 1966, established a mechanism to resolve the territorial dispute. because they knew that the Paris Arbitration Award was a FRAUD
I don't think Venezuela can afford a war right now.
Guyana would probably struggle to handle an 150.000 strong Venezuela attack (which I think is the most they can handle) while Guyana at the very most can rise 50.000.
However it wouldn't be a walk in the park. The terrain is horrible and the US would likely help Guyana with some nice equipment.
If they had built tunnels along their forest there was a chance by making venezuela have the vietcong experience.
But this oil money is recent. They have been mostly extra poor and depressed (yup with high suicide rates).
So, yeah they are a fragile country. Heartbreaking cause they have changed to a better less corrupt governance and have been trying to coppy cat the norwegian model putting oil profits in a sovereign fund.
@@puraLusa venesuela will have an hard time , Guyana isn't counting on us support they're counting on support from Brazil who's willing to help defend Guyana
mr redsjack, it will be a jungle war not a war on a big plain, all the venezulian tanks,and armoured personnel carriers would be useless and our small army is trained and know the terrain there so would fight in small groups , but we need to to buy the latest Guns with a 300 km range and get many drones to pinpoint their large army and supply lines from venezuela, also we will have an endless ammo supply ,venezuela will not have it as Iran and russia cannot supply them now, so sooner they will run out of Ammo, we really dont need to have more manpower, but if we do we can afford it,,Venezuela is broke, ruclips.net/video/Or5lWVhSJqo/видео.htmlsi=ZLEyIfpqpm8Q1ZzU
@@jeremiahhutson4075 The current President of Brazil was literally a "friend" of Chavez and enjoyed petrodollars at the turn of the millennium. He's not going to do anything for Guyana, just give speeches and make appeals.
if the US helps guyana then Russia gets involved and helps Venezuela, pls guyabna is weak venezuela will defeat them in seconds
Hopefully if anything happens, Guyana will prevail.
Damned straight.
El esseguivo is Venezuelan, Look up old colonial maps of Spain y la capitania general de venezuela. Territorios de ultramar. He just doesn't show it here cause he has a narrative. Not invasion, we are claiming what's our.
Of course it will prevail ie the Coastal more populated regions who knows with that small territory their government can manage their country better.
We Venezuelan have being trying to go throught internatinal laws since ever. We have being since 1998 under the power of a lefty line of pigs who don't care about our country. I went to jail in 2014 for speaking up. Does the actual state of my country give the right to the rest of the world to play with the lines of our maps? I just don't think so, as I don;t think the line of my map draw by two europeans powers many years ago isn't legit, more when we were not in the table. But I mean... how could this even affect you? it doesn't your don't really care, it isn't your land. nor your country, and it's easy to talk about others lands.
@@ArvindPersaud
Native Guyanese here and I always wished that Venezuela and our governments would find a way to settle this issue decades ago. For one, I do agree that Venezuela was shafted by America during the arbitration of 1899 when the US government sided with the UK. However, I never understood why they stood so heavy on wanting the entire Essequibo region. The Spanish/Gran Colombian governments had very few or little settlements/outposts of any kind in the disputed area. The ones they did have were situated on the coasts and near the Orinoco basin. Granted the British nor the Dutch had any outposts/settlements neither save for Fort-Kyk-Over-Al, but at least they had a presence of some kind in the region.
Gran Colombia, their former overlord Spain, nor Venezuela had any significant presence in the disputed Essequibo region besides Spain's claims. The ideal situation would be to split the region in half and go according to the original agreement between Spain and the UK but tbf the areas near the Brazilian and Venezuela borders are largely uninhabitable with large indigenous pops. Don't think Venezuela wants just that lol. Won't make sense to give them the rest tho since all of the towns along the major rivers and the "habitable" areas all have diverse English speaking peoples. And from what I understand, the border state of Guayana in Venezuela is about as underdeveloped as the rest of Guyana. So not really sure what the endgame here is. Yeah there's the oil ofc, but that only accounts for literally one border district. What they're claiming "rightful ownership" over is six entirely different districts.
TLDR: I play alot of paradox games (mostly EU4 and CK3) and this is basically just a newly formed Venezuela getting claims on its neighbors thru it's mission tree to reform Gran Colombia or something😂.
I'm Venezuelan, and while I do think our claim is historically legitimate, I also think starting a war to take it is just straight up stupid lol
Like c'mon, what are we gonna get from Esequibo? Natural resources? We already have them, we just gotta get rid of the issue of illegal mining. Oil? We don't even need it, we already have the biggest reserves of oil in the world, just start using them bruh. Prestige? Yes, that's why the gov wants a war. To boost their popularity in a time where they're facing a lot of disapproval.
Venezuela does have a capable army, that's why the government is still there, so I don't think Guyana has a nice chance against them unless the US intervenes (they most likely will). If this whole mess escalates, please try to stay safe in case the odds don't go in Guyana's favor.
Well, even if there was nothing there, not even oil or anything at all, I believe true Venezuelan nationalists would fight for this territory, since it is unfair what Great Britain did to Venezuela just because the country was in a vulnerable position, a true nationalist would defend every single inch of the country even if it's not worth it. Although obviously this government is not even a bit nationalist and all what they do is for their individual interests, but I still think it's not fair that Guyana is taking advantage of the Venezuelan crisis to exploit the resources of the area under claim, and then making themselves look as victims just because Venezuela is under a socialist dictatorship
@@j.g.d.s3142 i normally would agree with the nationalist claim but again it's not like there was any Spanish/Venezuelan presence in the disputed area. There were no Venezuelan/Spanish conquistadors that charted the region except for Alonso de Oleja who explored the mouth of the Essequibo in 1499. The British and the Dutch both had a much larger presence on the ground in Essequibo for about 2 centuries before the treaty of 1814 ceded the Spanish claims to the UK. Besides a few Catholic missions here and there along the coast, there was no Spanish presence in the area. The subsequent explorations commissioned by the Britsh government pushed the boundaries west based on both natural geographic barriers as well as the location of Spainish settlements/forts.
And to your point that Guyana is playing the victim card while simultaneously exploiting the disputed area is nonsensical. The region is indeed being exploited by greedy Guyanese and foreigners who use Venezuela's bs claims that the region is in fact "disputed territory” to conduct unauthorized mining and logging operations. This was a major problem in the 80s and 90s when Brazil made dredge mining illegal in their country and then a lot of Brazilians crossed over into Guyana looking to make quick profits doing dredge work.
The government and people of Guyana however have DEFINITELY not exploited the Essequibo as much as we should’ve. Most of the regions are largely uninhabited. At best there’s like 1 major road that goes thru the major towns, some private owned ferry companies, and lots of Amerindian communities.
Venezuela has permanent claims to the region because their former colonial overlord had claims to the region. Spain only had said territorial claims because of the explorations they commissioned in 1499. Spain lost those claims in 1814, which they had for about 300 years, that they never capitalized or built on. There are very little ethnically or culturally distinct Venezuelans/Spaniards living in the Essequibo region today, nor were there any during the colonial and post colonial periods. So again, this isn’t a nationalistic issue.
@@lordr1c325 you have to remember that venezuela had not time to settle it's presence on the essequibo, as soon as they gained independence, the British tried to snack the Essequibo, and of course, competing against the world's greatest empire as a recently born nation in settlement is a lost cause
@@elyisusking3603 lol I completely agree that the UK definitely snacked up a larger portion than was originally intended. However even before newly formed Venezuela gained independence when the region was under Spaniard control, they didn’t create any settlements/forts of any sort. Not even a trading outpost. The explorers who later surveyed the region used the Cayuni river as the basis for the boundary since it was very obvious where Spanish/Venezuelan control was located.
As a Venezuelan citizen, I strongly oppose the proposed referendum on the Essequibo region. Instead of resorting to such a divisive measure, both parties should engage in direct consultation with the people of Essequibo to determine their genuine aspirations and preferences. This democratic process should allow the residents of Essequibo to freely express their choice, whether they wish to remain Guyanese citizens or exercise their right to self-determination under Venezuelan sovereignty.
Its like mexico claiming its old territory thats currently the usa. Venezuela just want rights to the oil, i hope this gets stopped, worried for the ppl of guyana
🇯🇲 stands with 🇬🇾
As a Venezuelan I must said, the referendums is just for show to keep the veil of"democracy". Most people here know voting doesnt work and is just so the government can say that this is still a democracy. Also neaither I or many people I know considers Guyana (Esequibo) as part of our nation, simply as a terreitroy in reeclamation. I'm really concerned since the last thing I want is a war just next door because our government wants
Gracias. Yo soy Guyanese. Orando por la paz. Dios te bendiga.
Guyana is not a territory in reclamation, Venezuela recognizes Guyana as a sovereign country, however it does not recognizes it's current borders, the essequibo is the zone in reclamation, it's different...
Ni venezolano serás, para andar diciendo semejante barbaridad.
@@xxseyroxx3970 yes I was referring to the Esequibo
Venezuela no reclama Guyana, reclama el Esequibo que por derecho histórico ke pertenece, no inventes, tu ni eres venezolano porque los venezolanos sabemos que es lo que reclamos, porque es nuestro territorio
Very impressed with the quality of this report. Well done.
As a Guyanese(Berbician) I apprecilove you bringing this to the world!!!!
I’m a Guyanese as well
But why you had to put berbice 😂😂
@@TheAntagonistx because I’m from Berbice😂😂😂😂😂😂Ithaca to be exact
@@TheAntagonistx 😂😂😂😂😂Chubble ya look😂😂😂😂
My gf's parents are from Berbice! I love the food!
🇻🇪: We must reclaim our former territory!
Britain and Mongolia: 😏
It's not really former it's more or less disputed and has been claimed by Venezuelan government since their independence
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Alexander of Macedonia wants a word too.
No
Germany: 🌚
I would argue this would be next to impossible for Venezuela to pull of, as it should be. When there is a significant interest by American oil companies in the area and the Venezuelan economy in shambles I do not expect this to get far. The US would do as much as they can to stop it, and last time a south american country went to war to distract the population from looking into a ruined economic system, Argentina defaulted on it's debt and lost the Falkland war.. I don't see the Venezuelans making the same mistake.
Surely the Falklands islands belong to Argentina. Or is that another case of European colonialism?
indeed. Theyre just trying to get support from their local populace, since the argument for the "economic war" is no longer sustainable.
On the other hand, one would've thought that nobody would repeat the mistakes of a centrally planned socialist/communist economy. And yet here we are...
ruclips.net/video/D1ArmHK20ic/видео.htmlsi=dFU5wwwi9Y5tG1bS
@@simplyballing1592 Literally none of the modern day South American countries would exist today without European colonialism, expansionism and/or imperialism.
second that
Speaking as somebody living in Venezuela, we've pretty much long since lived ignoring the "government" and whatever they do. Working class Venezuelans around my age just simply do not care about their charades anymore - Ever since they removed the price distortion between dollars and bolivares, the country has effectively started running itself, with a multitude of private businesses beginning to operate in the country at an alarming rate while the government effectively does nothing to regulate them in any significant capacity or even less provide them any kind of support. So, you should expect the results to be exactly what the government wants it to be, because the only people that still vote are the few psychotic fanatics, who are still delusional enough to think we live in a functional democracy, or people who work for government-sponsored jobs and get threatened to be fired if they don't go. And both of those groups already decided what they're going to vote for before they've even read the questions in the polls. Everyone else isn't going to bother - I've already even met several people in my age group that didn't even know this referendum was happening until mere days ago, and the response to that information was a loud and overwhelming sense of apathy.
So where are things going to go from there? No idea - The government's approval rating hasn't reached 30% in well over half a decade (has completely plateaud between 20 and 26% as of the last 2-3 years). So if they're planning on starting some kind of war, good luck to them because the average Venezuelan will genuinely join a drug cartel before they even think of fighting for this piece of shit government and its farcical disputes.
As a Guyanese, Venezuela can’t even run their own affairs . Guyana is oil rich ; we will resist .
Devolva o pirara ao Brasil
Oil don't fight wars, your military is less than 10k people
Id be upset if someon tried to make me a Venezuelan
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As a Venezuelan, I’m already pretty upset about being from that country
The republic Suriname claims the part/ area between Acarai Mountains, Corantinriver and Coeroeniriver as part of their territory. New river doesn't exist. The name of New river was always Corantijnriver. How can a river that was named Corantijnriver years later after that called New River by Guyana?
Venezuela already has the largest petroleum reserves in the world and can’t effectively exploit them. They may want to invade to nationalize the up-to-date Exxon infrastructure and produce a lot oil as fast as possible until they destroy the reserve through over extraction and until they let the infrastructure deteriorate completely.