As of Hotfix 37.0.6, Melee Afflictions will not be triggered by Ragdoll on enemies in the Blood Altar state (or other immobilized states). Knockdown still works. Enemies with Overguard are now completely immune to Melee Afflictions.
@@burningshinato1473 idk about them, tested dual ichors only, but theoretically they should, weapon doesnt really matter as long as u can apply afflictions twice or more(but not for more than 5(?) i think, dmg goes so high that u start dealing 1 dmg per status, weird warframe math shenanigans
@@kraus1860 what did you put on your build ? i tried to use dual ichors with knockdown heavy attack and Kullervo's subsume to trigger afflictions but it didnt work consistently, does the enemy need to survive being struck, or what ?
I forgot to include the scene I had prepared about the damage overflow. The scene showed that the following actions using the Cascade build resulted in 0 spread damage and 1 DoT damage. Hystrix (Heat, Toxin) → Shroud of Dynar → Fangs of Raksh (Gas) → Blood Altar → two Heavy Attacks (Slash, Electricity, Gas) Be aware that this will happen frequently if you focus too much on high damage.
A fellow melee afflictions voruna enjoyer, good to see somebody recognizing the synergy. My favorite melees for it would probably be nikanas and heavy blades.
Since "blade and whip" weapons have lift on the first hit on the neutral attack you can use this with any helminth on voruna even roar, assuming FoR have procced a DoT This become easier as the enemies become more bulkier but you can just use lets say a Dorclave then use your 1, look for the marked enemy, use your 2 then spam your neutral meele attack. Doing this depending on the DoT applied of your FoR you will see good numbers or just a tileset wipe with enemies taking thousands or millions of damage
As a Voruna main big Thanks for the build bro you reach the dmg cap easily at least her new augment ain't that useless but if the thing gets patched rip her new augment [Prey of Dynar] will be useless again
@@xslite300 after testing the mod normally without blood altar yes the augment is good I just hope DE won't make it LoS people suggesting LoS didn't cleary play her before the augment
I don’t know am I too late for this. But let me get clear again. So, if your melee makes too high dmg (aka 1shot kill), it won’t spread and synergy won’t work right?
I just started using tenet exec today and was utterly confused on that was accruing. I tried to farm up slam mod and get a melee arcane adapter cause to damge seems unreal. If I don't one shot it paralysis everyone on the floor. Is this normal
We could achieve almost the same thing by using Trinity's Well of Life, but as the pinned comment says, Ragdoll no longer works on immobilized enemies. If the reason it doesn't work is a bug and it is fixed, you'll be able to use the ability.
@@jWFlabso, unless it is a bug as you say and it is supposed to work with ragdolls and gets added again, it should work with well of life and blood altar, and if it's not added again you are better off using something that can apply knockdown like the nikanas stance, right?
Currently only Knockdown works on Blood Altar, and none of the three works on Well of Life. If the bug is fixed, Ragdoll and Knockdown will work on Blood Altar, and only Ragdoll will work on Well of Life.
1)find a victim 2)press 2 on it 3)blood altar him 4)apply lifted/knockdowm by any way mentioned in the vid(i prefer dual ichor heavy) 5)put him off blood altar(press altar button on him again) 6)genocide achieved
As for the dash range, even the base value of 30m is sufficient, so Prey of Dynar can be used in place of Ability Range mods. However, I'm not sure if the spread range calculation is intended or not. (190% Ability Range) 7m * 1.9 * (1 + 1.5 * 1.9) = 51.205m
Had anyone else noticed that tonfas, dual swords, and dual daggers arent always knocking enemies down on heavy? It seems that there are some status effects that prevent the knockdown from happening. Likely a bug, but id love to use praedis for this, but for now it seems you cant
If you use Heavy Attacks, you can basically follow the Ether Dagger build. I determined the Elemental ratio taking into account the probability of inflicting both Electricity and Gas, so in the case of Ceti Lacera, ideally that part would need to be changed, but it wouldn't make a big difference. In the w/o Blood Altar build, the Mecha mods are probably the least needed, as the spread range is 101.92 meters. For the Cascade build, there are a number of ways to make changes. Not only Archon Shards but also Arcane Energize, Molt Efficiency, etc. can be used instead of the mods, since using the 2nd passive makes the arcane slots free. Survivability mods can also be cut depending on your skill. You can even replace some Ability Range mods if you think 100m is excessive.
I actually used it without blood altar on level cap cascade with ceti lacera had just copied ur mods and upgraded them and it worked fine the main highlight was the new prey of dynar augment it's so overpowered @@jWFlab
@@jWFlab I didn't use any archon mods and didn't need survivability mods either just arcane steadfast lycath hunt for energy prey of dynar proc it then neutral heavy with ceti lacera with melee afflictions and it was killing everything including thraxes I had condition overload on too but I think u might have a better build ifu. Could make a video or reply
Well. Time to spend some plat for Garuda I am not grinding her lol. Been grinding to get some plat to try this build out. Roar works cool but I would really like to try this instead
Disruption? No. Though I have confirmed that the Blood Altar setup can hit damage cap on Demolishers in Simulacrum, it's not well suited for the mission at this moment because Melee Afflictions doesn't work on them at all. Since there is a video on RUclips of Ragdoll being able to trigger the Arcane in the past, this seems to be the same issue as the pinned comment.
@@jWFlab Afflictions does work in demolishers, you just need to use stances with forced ragdolls, like Rending Crane. The issue using WoL or blood altar is that demolishers turn off the ability.
I didn't use those abilities against Demolishers, of course. When was the last time you checked that? I just tried it a few minutes ago with Gram Prime in Apollo and it didn't work.
@@jWFlab So i tested it again with forced ragdolls on hammers, like jat kitag, it didnt work, then i tried spinning needles with nepheri, also didnt work and i checked last hotfix, no info about this change.... ruclips.net/video/gQVBkuycWXo/видео.htmlsi=AnTPsxQKFYujbXx0 did a long run when it used to work.
As of Hotfix 37.0.6, Melee Afflictions will not be triggered by Ragdoll on enemies in the Blood Altar state (or other immobilized states). Knockdown still works.
Enemies with Overguard are now completely immune to Melee Afflictions.
Should be 70m on the thumbnail, new aug is bonkers
So the ether daggers do still work is that right?
@@burningshinato1473 idk about them, tested dual ichors only, but theoretically they should, weapon doesnt really matter as long as u can apply afflictions twice or more(but not for more than 5(?) i think, dmg goes so high that u start dealing 1 dmg per status, weird warframe math shenanigans
@@burningshinato1473 In terms of Blood Altar, yes, but it no longer works on Overguard enemies.
@@kraus1860 what did you put on your build ? i tried to use dual ichors with knockdown heavy attack and Kullervo's subsume to trigger afflictions but it didnt work consistently, does the enemy need to survive being struck, or what ?
I forgot to include the scene I had prepared about the damage overflow.
The scene showed that the following actions using the Cascade build resulted in 0 spread damage and 1 DoT damage.
Hystrix (Heat, Toxin) → Shroud of Dynar → Fangs of Raksh (Gas) → Blood Altar → two Heavy Attacks (Slash, Electricity, Gas)
Be aware that this will happen frequently if you focus too much on high damage.
A fellow melee afflictions voruna enjoyer, good to see somebody recognizing the synergy. My favorite melees for it would probably be nikanas and heavy blades.
this still work with the new update?
@@rogerdasilva1460 it's actually buffed now with the new augment. 50% dmg vulnerability on FoR target + 150% extra range.
@@dshearwfand augment scales with ability range, so u can go from 20m before, to 70-80m now at 280% ability range
Wow, the big brain channel is Rare, I like it 😃
Since "blade and whip" weapons have lift on the first hit on the neutral attack you can use this with any helminth on voruna even roar, assuming FoR have procced a DoT
This become easier as the enemies become more bulkier but you can just use lets say a Dorclave then use your 1, look for the marked enemy, use your 2 then spam your neutral meele attack.
Doing this depending on the DoT applied of your FoR you will see good numbers or just a tileset wipe with enemies taking thousands or millions of damage
As a Voruna main big Thanks for the build bro you reach the dmg cap easily at least her new augment ain't that useless but if the thing gets patched rip her new augment [Prey of Dynar] will be useless again
won’t be useless
@@xslite300 after testing the mod normally without blood altar yes the augment is good I just hope DE won't make it LoS people suggesting LoS didn't cleary play her before the augment
Earned a sub for this keep innovating
I don’t know am I too late for this.
But let me get clear again. So, if your melee makes too high dmg (aka 1shot kill), it won’t spread and synergy won’t work right?
that's right
I just started using tenet exec today and was utterly confused on that was accruing. I tried to farm up slam mod and get a melee arcane adapter cause to damge seems unreal. If I don't one shot it paralysis everyone on the floor. Is this normal
What other helminths do you think would work for this build? Dont have blood altar unlocked yet
We could achieve almost the same thing by using Trinity's Well of Life, but as the pinned comment says, Ragdoll no longer works on immobilized enemies.
If the reason it doesn't work is a bug and it is fixed, you'll be able to use the ability.
@@jWFlabso, unless it is a bug as you say and it is supposed to work with ragdolls and gets added again, it should work with well of life and blood altar, and if it's not added again you are better off using something that can apply knockdown like the nikanas stance, right?
Currently only Knockdown works on Blood Altar, and none of the three works on Well of Life.
If the bug is fixed, Ragdoll and Knockdown will work on Blood Altar, and only Ragdoll will work on Well of Life.
メレー アフリクション用敵状態表拝見しました 自分も以前に検証したのですがup37からオバガ相手に転倒攻撃をしかけても付与出来なくなりました それまでは毒chroma2番の敵最大HPの5%分をデュアルダガーやトンファーのヘビーで増やして遊んでいたので残念です ところでブログにコメントしようとすると何度試しても画像認証にエラーが出てしまいます 大文字小文字数字と見間違えるような指定文字でもないので不思議です
フォーラムでもバグ報告されているみたいですが、記載漏れなのかバグなのかまだわからないですね。修正されるにしても1999の時になるような気もします。
画像認証は全角が混ざっているとエラーになります。それ以外は試しても確認できなかったのでブラウザなどの環境かもしれません。
PREY OF DYNARが範囲modの影響を受け、100m内に2番アビリティをばら撒けますが
この動画の方法と何かしら結びつけて100m内にこうダメージを出せないですか？
just do the same on marked target and boom u get 82m nuke
最大49mになりましたが、マークされた敵を探して同じことをするだけでできます
Idk what I am missing. I am trying this with and without blood altar but the status with the high damage does not spread after I kill the enemy
1)find a victim
2)press 2 on it
3)blood altar him
4)apply lifted/knockdowm by any way mentioned in the vid(i prefer dual ichor heavy)
5)put him off blood altar(press altar button on him again)
6)genocide achieved
this was nerfed
@@s4mu04 just tested, still works perfectly fine
Do you think the new augment can replace overextended or is the dash range more important than the spread range
As for the dash range, even the base value of 30m is sufficient, so Prey of Dynar can be used in place of Ability Range mods.
However, I'm not sure if the spread range calculation is intended or not.
(190% Ability Range) 7m * 1.9 * (1 + 1.5 * 1.9) = 51.205m
I think it scales exponentially with ability range mods. So ditching range mods is ill-advised
Had anyone else noticed that tonfas, dual swords, and dual daggers arent always knocking enemies down on heavy? It seems that there are some status effects that prevent the knockdown from happening. Likely a bug, but id love to use praedis for this, but for now it seems you cant
6:46 7:54
Does this also function with Well of Life?
still no
Where is ur ceti lacera? And can u pls make an updated build with her new augment ur builds are the best
If you use Heavy Attacks, you can basically follow the Ether Dagger build.
I determined the Elemental ratio taking into account the probability of inflicting both Electricity and Gas, so in the case of Ceti Lacera, ideally that part would need to be changed, but it wouldn't make a big difference.
In the w/o Blood Altar build, the Mecha mods are probably the least needed, as the spread range is 101.92 meters.
For the Cascade build, there are a number of ways to make changes. Not only Archon Shards but also Arcane Energize, Molt Efficiency, etc. can be used instead of the mods, since using the 2nd passive makes the arcane slots free. Survivability mods can also be cut depending on your skill. You can even replace some Ability Range mods if you think 100m is excessive.
Currently, as the pinned comment, Heavy builds of Blade and Whips are not suitable for Blood Altar.
I actually used it without blood altar on level cap cascade with ceti lacera had just copied ur mods and upgraded them and it worked fine the main highlight was the new prey of dynar augment it's so overpowered @@jWFlab
@@jWFlab I didn't use any archon mods and didn't need survivability mods either just arcane steadfast lycath hunt for energy prey of dynar proc it then neutral heavy with ceti lacera with melee afflictions and it was killing everything including thraxes I had condition overload on too but I think u might have a better build ifu. Could make a video or reply
If there was nothing wrong with that run, I don't have a build that I can confidently say is superior.
Tbh i just use the mecha set her 2 and roar lol 😭😭 ive gotten 650k spread without the procs
Melee Afflictions no longer affects enemies if they have Overguard, can this build still work on levelcap Thrax enemies?
nvm I'm dumb just Blood Altar something else.
Since there won't always be other enemies around, it's better to have a gun strong enough to remove Overguard.
This guy definitely plays warframe in creative mod at this point
would this work on garuda if so how(nvm)xd
rewrite the code and subsume fangs of raksh to garuda or get a friend with voruna
Of course not lmao😂 your asking if an ability Garuda doesn’t have and isn’t a hemlith would work on Garuda
I don’t think you understood the video at all lmao
hey u here ?
Well. Time to spend some plat for Garuda I am not grinding her lol. Been grinding to get some plat to try this build out. Roar works cool but I would really like to try this instead
did you try in perturbation ?
Disruption? No.
Though I have confirmed that the Blood Altar setup can hit damage cap on Demolishers in Simulacrum, it's not well suited for the mission at this moment because Melee Afflictions doesn't work on them at all.
Since there is a video on RUclips of Ragdoll being able to trigger the Arcane in the past, this seems to be the same issue as the pinned comment.
@@jWFlab Afflictions does work in demolishers, you just need to use stances with forced ragdolls, like Rending Crane. The issue using WoL or blood altar is that demolishers turn off the ability.
I didn't use those abilities against Demolishers, of course.
When was the last time you checked that? I just tried it a few minutes ago with Gram Prime in Apollo and it didn't work.
@@jWFlab So i tested it again with forced ragdolls on hammers, like jat kitag, it didnt work, then i tried spinning needles with nepheri, also didnt work and i checked last hotfix, no info about this change.... ruclips.net/video/gQVBkuycWXo/видео.htmlsi=AnTPsxQKFYujbXx0 did a long run when it used to work.
Thank you for the information. This is probably an unintentional bug caused by some underlying code change.
wow.
now nurf wukong again
thats the funniest shit ive heard in a few days lol thank you
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It looks beautiful, but in fact it's completely nonsense.
why tho
News Flash NOBODY CARES!
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News flash a lot of people care tf? Are you dense?
News flash, you are a child and your opinion doesn't matter.