seeing how racism is huge in revachol and measurehead implies the racism also extends to homophobia because the bad races are seen as gay, and knowing how weird the place is, i wouldnt doubt theyd find liking piss less weird than being gay tbh
Eh, Kim doesn't dig his heels into the ground about things that don't matter. If the lieutenant-yefreitor wants him to wear the pissf***t jacket, it's whatever
Kim actually has a lot of personnality, it's just that he's extremely profesionnal and restreined about it. -the guy is a big car enthusiast, listen to punk-radios on his free-time, has a LOT of respect for his profession and what his job, -he also definitely has somes strong feelings on somes peoples, communities, and figures -and while he dosn't show it, he has a lot of respect for himself as well (in a good way i mean, not saying he's a narcissist) It's just that he keep this shit to himself, but if you're playing a smart/sensible Harry, you can actually get him to admit/play a lot of stuff. it's just a matter of getting him to drop his cool and pro attitude. him accepting to wear the the pissfagg*t jacket is very much in-line with his personnality, it simply that it overlap with his fucking work. my bet is he probably liked the jackets the moment he saw them, that's why he immediately answered non-ironically "pissfagg*t" would be a good choice for himself, and "Fuck the World" a good choice for Harry. my boy saw the jackets, and probably thought the same as everyone else: "theses jackets looks cool... it'd be ridiculous and wildly innapropriate, but cool." only someone as fucking UNHINGED as Harry would *ACTUALLY* go through it
losing my mind over how the game's sound editing hiccups with not censoring the jacket's full name when Kim concedes and wears it. It happens a few times but it's always just hilarious whiplash, especially with by-the-book Kim of all people saying it
It is a bit inconsistent tho because sometimes it is flaubert. I don't know if it's intentional or if it is just too much work to fix all of them tho. Probably the latter.
"we are all pissf****ts and the world is inherently meaningless" is a great quote that shit sounds like something i'd say. i'd consider getting a tattoo of it but i have 0 pain tolerance
Disco Elysium has SO many tattoo-able quotes it's not even funny. my personal favorite is "In dark times, should the stars also go out?" which you get from Steban the student communist. Your comment also reminded me of a DE-inspired tattoo I stumbled upon recently (spoilers) twitter.com/matttfoggy/status/1652719333598982145
What if... you take it off while Kim's in bed and you put it back on before you go to bed yourself? Does Kim have jacket senses? Or will he be still in the jacket in the morning, as long as he doesn't know you took it off while he was sleeping?
I got this to happen and was so happy, just to very shortly later lose Kim do to some awful awful rolls. I kept the jacket on anyway through the remainder of the game in hopes he’d be still wearing it when I saw him again. Never saw him again. 😢
@@32Tumbles SPOILER ALERT If you fail the authority check to warn Kim during the tribunal that someone’s behind him he will get shot and you won’t see him again for the rest of the game
@@faresalsayed9005 thats so fucking sad, shit. i didnt think it was even actually possible to fail that check cus it was always high chance during my play-throughs despite my low authority.
@@AgentMulder120 yup and then you can have cuno as your partner and he rides on your shoulders. but it's kinda cute because you can ask the rcm to recruit him
@@kira33533 uuurrgghhh clenches my fist. I love cuno he's a little shit but he's my little shit but I also love Kim too much to let him get killed. In a perfect world we could recruit Cuno without killing Kim.. in a perfect world Kim and Harry could be his dads..
What’s interesting is that while they obviously recorded the lines with the actual f-slur being said, oddly enough in-universe the word is something else. The word, which in-universe holds the same connotations as the irl f-slur, is actually the french name “flaubert”.
some paths in the game lead to it being uncensored. i imagine logistically it'd be easier to record them all uncensored than try to decide what lines need uncensored versions before recording
@@tomkipling9120 Prior to the update that added a lot more voicing the game was actually uncensored - the censoring was added in the update. I'm quite thankful for the change, talking to Cuno was a nightmare beyond what it is now lol
i always guessed they would mostly have been the actor just saying "fah" and maybe a lone "it" so they can cover it up with the censor tbh didnt expect the full word to be said
@@h.w.4482 ehh as someone who's actually be sworn at with the f*g language etc it prob hit me more than it would others. That's why I'm thankful they changed it tho
@@KyuschiI became a member of the homosexual underground irl just to try it out and can confirm: homophobic slurs suddenly became MUCH more intelligible.
This game is so cool. I got the jackets off those two but I never would’ve known you could make Kim wear it. There must be hundreds of those alternate scenarios I have no idea about
Thats what he meant with the "piss jacket". He never wore the jacket in my playthrough still after the shootout i got the dialog option: 'You took of the "Piss" jacket?'
Yeh, sometimes you encounter dialogues that don't fit with your playthrough. Like the game or devs assumed you'd have already done certain things before. Little bugs or oversights; no surprise in a game of this complexity
I got the same! I took the jackets off the two guys but never figured out how to get Kim to wear it, but when Harry wakes up on day 7 he can ask Kim why he isn't wearing it The rest of the game is really good with sequencing but idm
I haven’t played this because my computer is extremely bad so I knew of these jackets. I’d never heard the people you get them from explain them before. Wasn’t expecting that. I just laughed so hard I almost gave myself an asthma attack oh my god
I would be sincerely surprised if your computer couldn’t run Disco Elysium, especially after the Mariana Trench update. And besides, DE is mostly just reading text, so a choppy fps wouldn’t matter much anyway.
I played on a shitty little laptop and the fps was kinda low and it sometimes crashed on startup but I still had a great experience! dont let it stop ya
i had the same thing! my suggestion’s at 8 and it still doesn’t work, even though the Authority check (which also requires 8, iykyk) did my only assumption is that it’s not working for me because a point of my suggestion is thanks to the finger-guns
anyone else get the bug where kim talks about taking off the piss jacket after the tribunal when he never had it on in the first place? Just saw this in my recommended and realized what piss jacket he was talking about
4:56 - I can't seem pass that suggestion check at all, some guides I've looked through tell me an 8 in Suggestion is enough, but it's just not showing up for me. Do I really need to boost it up to 9? My Suggestion skill is capped and I don't have any thoughts at the moment to boost it up (I have 1+ on "Finger Pistols" and that's it)
i can never get kim to wear it :( i don't want to watch the video before getting it so could you let me know any requirements to get kim to wear the jacket
Of course :) In order to get Kim to wear it, you need to: Talk to the boys, ask about the jackets (ask Kim which one he would hypothetically wear, tell him that you feel more like a "Fuck the World" kind of guy) Then pass a legendary 14 Half Light check to ask for the jackets. After the boys give you their jackets, say: "It's good to know we have a pair. In case the need arises." Kim will say "the need will not arise." After this, you must pass a PASSIVE Legendary 14 Suggestion check which I think is where most players fail. So make sure your suggestion is at least 8 or higher. Exit the dialogue, put on the Fuck the World jacket, and then there should be a thought bubble where you can convince Kim to wear the other jacket. Remember that once you've gotten Kim to wear the Pissf****t jacket, removing your jacket will also make him take his jacket off, and he won't put it back on after that. Plan your build accordingly
@@telidro hi, when the suggestion thing pops up, there is no option for kim to wear the jacket. i did exactly what you said but there is no choice, how do i do it? i have been trying for an hour now lol
@@xamotii7988 No, that's a different thing. When you finish hardcore mode and enter a new hardcore game afterwards, Kim's bomber jacket in his actual character portrait on the bottom left changes from orange to black. I was able to do what you see in this video without ever touching hardcore mode
Question: do you need to have internalised homosexual underground and asked Kim about his sexuality for him to say the name of the jacket uncensored? Maybe I chose the wrong dialogue options but I only heard him say it with the censor crackle in my playthrough. Kim has the pass
@@pootsiii8178 From what i heard somewhere, censorship is something Harry's mind does on it's own. It's like his own mind is censoring certain things, but that seems to only work from his perspective. When other characters do it, it's bit different.
Jean asks if you became a nihilist, Kim takes off the jacket after the tribunal because he doesn't feel it's appropriate now that a couple people died. If you wear the other jacket Jean freaks out and says there better not be a photo of you wearing that jacket floating out there or the liberals are going to f*** you all to death.
@@Igor-zj1lc ooh, that's what i had guessed. that's too bad, i would have LOVED to hear Vicquemare's reactions to seeing both Harry and Kim with their jackets x)
@@Igor-zj1lc weirdly enough, even though i never got the jackets, I still got the dialogue option of Harry wondering where Kim's went after the tribunal. Must be a bug
They didn't. Kim is gay and he gets a pass for it. If Harry internalizes the homosexual underground thought and comes out as gay too, the censorship banishes and he can say it too. The game is very deliberate about these things.
@@ZirkalaritzKim says it other times and it's still censored, and in older releases of the game it was completely uncensored. I think they just missed some.
@@books2438 what do you mean by that? It is downright patronizing to their audience if they're not just doing it to appease whatever organization allows them to release the game
@@Bee_Tea_Sea People have theories about it, like the censors being in Harry’s mind. And it’s not patronizing. Whether they did it because they wanted to spare people hearing it or for a lore reason, it’s not patronizing.
@@books2438 "because they wanted to spare someone hearing it" Totally not patronizing to the viewer at all So much so that you needed to afirm it by saying "its not patronizing" twice in the same reply to convince me of how not patronizing it is to censor dialog in a story that deals with r4p3 and murd3r throughout And if it were a lore thing I would love to see where they speak about the censorship in game having to do with the lore, genuinely I would like to get a real answer as to why they did this to their story
funny to think kim has enough authority to bypass the censor
He has the "homosexual underground" thought internalized. It gives him the f word pass.
The censored words are actually "flaubert" if I recall correctly. Him saying the actual word is probably what makes him bypass the censor.
kim is gay, so he can say it
@@Svoorhout85Kim *is* the Homosexual Underground
Wtf i was just gonna listen to ur music what the hell, i shat myself
KIM CAN SAY IT CUZ HE'S GAY 💀
HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED IT
He's got the F-word pass!
Mans can reclaim
he can reclaim 🙏
Bisexual here, I can confirm we can say it but only get about half the word in before we get censored the rest of the way.
Kim's gay swag allows him to say whatever he wants
I like to think that the censorship noise is something that literally exists in-world caused by a supernatural force that only lets gay people say it
That perfectly fits the universe of this game
omg it's germ
considering reality itself bends around rich individuals, you're probally right
The Pale may be unreality manifest but it still won’t stand for homophobia and has to do some silly little interference
"The moment your jacket comes off, so does his" I can't be the only one who interpreted this phrase the way it was intended, can I
The fact that homie thinks liking piss is better than being assumed as gay is just *chefs kiss*
seeing how racism is huge in revachol and measurehead implies the racism also extends to homophobia because the bad races are seen as gay, and knowing how weird the place is, i wouldnt doubt theyd find liking piss less weird than being gay tbh
Knowing Kim's character not in my wildest dreams did I thought it would be possible to get him to wear it
Same, I didn't think he'd even entertain the idea so I never tried
Kim likes himself a nice jacket.
Eh, Kim doesn't dig his heels into the ground about things that don't matter. If the lieutenant-yefreitor wants him to wear the pissf***t jacket, it's whatever
Kim actually has a lot of personnality, it's just that he's extremely profesionnal and restreined about it.
-the guy is a big car enthusiast, listen to punk-radios on his free-time, has a LOT of respect for his profession and what his job,
-he also definitely has somes strong feelings on somes peoples, communities, and figures
-and while he dosn't show it, he has a lot of respect for himself as well (in a good way i mean, not saying he's a narcissist)
It's just that he keep this shit to himself, but if you're playing a smart/sensible Harry, you can actually get him to admit/play a lot of stuff.
it's just a matter of getting him to drop his cool and pro attitude.
him accepting to wear the the pissfagg*t jacket is very much in-line with his personnality, it simply that it overlap with his fucking work.
my bet is he probably liked the jackets the moment he saw them, that's why he immediately answered non-ironically "pissfagg*t" would be a good choice for himself, and "Fuck the World" a good choice for Harry.
my boy saw the jackets, and probably thought the same as everyone else: "theses jackets looks cool... it'd be ridiculous and wildly innapropriate, but cool."
only someone as fucking UNHINGED as Harry would *ACTUALLY* go through it
@@Rise65487 Kim does comment on it being unfortunate about how cool they are together wearing them
7:48 the absolute force Kim says this line with caught me so off guard LOL
pretty much either "fuck it let's get this over with" or "welp shit I guess I'm a part of this now" kind of tone
Kim says 'fuck' so rarely, but when he does, he fucking means it
I think he's addressing you as "Fuck", short for "Fuck The World"
losing my mind over how the game's sound editing hiccups with not censoring the jacket's full name when Kim concedes and wears it. It happens a few times but it's always just hilarious whiplash, especially with by-the-book Kim of all people saying it
oh 100%. Literally did a double take the first time I heard Kim say it uncensored lol. although to be fair... he does technically get a pass 👀
he’s reclaiming the slur
Well, he's gay, so he can say it lol
it gets uncensored when a gay person says it- or, if you become gay, I believe it uncensors it completely too.
It is a bit inconsistent tho because sometimes it is flaubert. I don't know if it's intentional or if it is just too much work to fix all of them tho. Probably the latter.
6:48 its ok, he can reclaim
The LGBTQ Community Has Forgiven Kim Kitsuragi
(ik hes gay tis a joke)
I love that you cant remove the jacket once its on or kim takes his off too. Hope you didnt need the stats from other jackets
The world just needs to adjust to the stats of your jacket. You have to fuck it untill it does!
If somebody hasn't done a fuck and piss% speedrun of this game yet, they should.
"we are all pissf****ts and the world is inherently meaningless" is a great quote that shit sounds like something i'd say. i'd consider getting a tattoo of it but i have 0 pain tolerance
actually i change my mind a tattoo of that would be a stupid idea there are better quotes out there
Disco Elysium has SO many tattoo-able quotes it's not even funny. my personal favorite is "In dark times, should the stars also go out?" which you get from Steban the student communist. Your comment also reminded me of a DE-inspired tattoo I stumbled upon recently (spoilers) twitter.com/matttfoggy/status/1652719333598982145
you gotta level up your pain threshold
@@no-ev1om he discarded the thought
@@no-ev1om I'll get the tattoo for you. I'm already covered so why not, shit's hilarious and I love this game.
As great as it is it kinda makes me sad when they lose their jackets
fuck the police
better than them living a life of crime
Him calling you Fuck just does it for me.😂
What if... you take it off while Kim's in bed and you put it back on before you go to bed yourself? Does Kim have jacket senses? Or will he be still in the jacket in the morning, as long as he doesn't know you took it off while he was sleeping?
Kim is reclaiming the word
I got this to happen and was so happy, just to very shortly later lose Kim do to some awful awful rolls. I kept the jacket on anyway through the remainder of the game in hopes he’d be still wearing it when I saw him again. Never saw him again. 😢
Wait how did you lose him?
@@32Tumbles SPOILER ALERT
If you fail the authority check to warn Kim during the tribunal that someone’s behind him he will get shot and you won’t see him again for the rest of the game
@@faresalsayed9005 thats so fucking sad, shit. i didnt think it was even actually possible to fail that check cus it was always high chance during my play-throughs despite my low authority.
@@AgentMulder120 yup and then you can have cuno as your partner and he rides on your shoulders. but it's kinda cute because you can ask the rcm to recruit him
@@kira33533 uuurrgghhh clenches my fist. I love cuno he's a little shit but he's my little shit but I also love Kim too much to let him get killed. In a perfect world we could recruit Cuno without killing Kim.. in a perfect world Kim and Harry could be his dads..
its not about a funny haha hes wearing a jacket that says pissf****t, its about trust
What’s interesting is that while they obviously recorded the lines with the actual f-slur being said, oddly enough in-universe the word is something else. The word, which in-universe holds the same connotations as the irl f-slur, is actually the french name “flaubert”.
some paths in the game lead to it being uncensored. i imagine logistically it'd be easier to record them all uncensored than try to decide what lines need uncensored versions before recording
@@tomkipling9120 Prior to the update that added a lot more voicing the game was actually uncensored - the censoring was added in the update. I'm quite thankful for the change, talking to Cuno was a nightmare beyond what it is now lol
i always guessed they would mostly have been the actor just saying "fah" and maybe a lone "it" so they can cover it up with the censor tbh didnt expect the full word to be said
@@cadewynnttv1627lmao it wasn't that bad bffr
@@h.w.4482 ehh as someone who's actually be sworn at with the f*g language etc it prob hit me more than it would others. That's why I'm thankful they changed it tho
I wish you could change the game settings to uncensor it
edit: WAIT I JUST REALIZED KIM SAYS IT @ 6:45
he can say it
apparently it gets uncensored if you become gay
@@KyuschiI became a member of the homosexual underground irl just to try it out and can confirm: homophobic slurs suddenly became MUCH more intelligible.
im crying this is beautiful
legendary passive suggestion check? no fucking wonder, this is literally a miracle
This game is so cool. I got the jackets off those two but I never would’ve known you could make Kim wear it. There must be hundreds of those alternate scenarios I have no idea about
NOOOO HE REFUSED TO WEAR IT IN MY GAME ..... IM CRYING.
Thats what he meant with the "piss jacket". He never wore the jacket in my playthrough still after the shootout i got the dialog option: 'You took of the "Piss" jacket?'
Yeh, sometimes you encounter dialogues that don't fit with your playthrough. Like the game or devs assumed you'd have already done certain things before. Little bugs or oversights; no surprise in a game of this complexity
I got the same! I took the jackets off the two guys but never figured out how to get Kim to wear it, but when Harry wakes up on day 7 he can ask Kim why he isn't wearing it
The rest of the game is really good with sequencing but idm
this is my new favorite video ever
I haven’t played this because my computer is extremely bad so I knew of these jackets. I’d never heard the people you get them from explain them before. Wasn’t expecting that. I just laughed so hard I almost gave myself an asthma attack oh my god
I would be sincerely surprised if your computer couldn’t run Disco Elysium, especially after the Mariana Trench update. And besides, DE is mostly just reading text, so a choppy fps wouldn’t matter much anyway.
I played on a shitty little laptop and the fps was kinda low and it sometimes crashed on startup but I still had a great experience! dont let it stop ya
I have a new goal in life
after wearing the jacket i cant get the thought of making him wear the other 😭
you have to have suggestion at 8 or higher for him to wear it
I have a save file of this exact moment, just because i love this interaction so much, me and my best friend Kim Kitsuragi having matching jackets
I love you, wizard of gay sex
sztywnieje mi siurek gdy widzę nowy film JEEEEEEEEEDZIEMYYYY!!!!
Alright FUCK
Love this game
3:38 YES
Man, I don’t think my “Suggestion” is high enough. It doesn’t work for me!
i had the same thing! my suggestion’s at 8 and it still doesn’t work, even though the Authority check (which also requires 8, iykyk) did
my only assumption is that it’s not working for me because a point of my suggestion is thanks to the finger-guns
anyone else get the bug where kim talks about taking off the piss jacket after the tribunal when he never had it on in the first place? Just saw this in my recommended and realized what piss jacket he was talking about
am sad man i couldnt get kim to wear the jacket
I love him alot i wish he was real bruv
fletcher and wyatt
4:56 - I can't seem pass that suggestion check at all, some guides I've looked through tell me an 8 in Suggestion is enough, but it's just not showing up for me. Do I really need to boost it up to 9? My Suggestion skill is capped and I don't have any thoughts at the moment to boost it up (I have 1+ on "Finger Pistols" and that's it)
Kim :-D
i can never get kim to wear it :(
i don't want to watch the video before getting it so could you let me know any requirements to get kim to wear the jacket
Of course :) In order to get Kim to wear it, you need to:
Talk to the boys, ask about the jackets (ask Kim which one he would hypothetically wear, tell him that you feel more like a "Fuck the World" kind of guy)
Then pass a legendary 14 Half Light check to ask for the jackets. After the boys give you their jackets, say: "It's good to know we have a pair. In case the need arises." Kim will say "the need will not arise." After this, you must pass a PASSIVE Legendary 14 Suggestion check which I think is where most players fail. So make sure your suggestion is at least 8 or higher.
Exit the dialogue, put on the Fuck the World jacket, and then there should be a thought bubble where you can convince Kim to wear the other jacket.
Remember that once you've gotten Kim to wear the Pissf****t jacket, removing your jacket will also make him take his jacket off, and he won't put it back on after that. Plan your build accordingly
@@telidro hi, when the suggestion thing pops up, there is no option for kim to wear the jacket. i did exactly what you said but there is no choice, how do i do it? i have been trying for an hour now lol
@@8f303yk you have to beat the game in hardcore, then make a new game also in hardcore mode, then do the sequence
@@xamotii7988 No, that's a different thing. When you finish hardcore mode and enter a new hardcore game afterwards, Kim's bomber jacket in his actual character portrait on the bottom left changes from orange to black. I was able to do what you see in this video without ever touching hardcore mode
@@telidro mb then :p
cruelty squad-ass npc lmao
Question: do you need to have internalised homosexual underground and asked Kim about his sexuality for him to say the name of the jacket uncensored?
Maybe I chose the wrong dialogue options but I only heard him say it with the censor crackle in my playthrough.
Kim has the pass
I did it but never got the trophy for it :/
Cobain?
6:50 censorship failed there.
Im just going to justify it by saying Kim can say it because he's gay.
@@pootsiii8178 From what i heard somewhere, censorship is something Harry's mind does on it's own. It's like his own mind is censoring certain things, but that seems to only work from his perspective.
When other characters do it, it's bit different.
No he has F word pass ;)
ты еще живой брат 🤯
Didn't fail, Kim can say it.
I did meke him wear itand didn't got the success 😔
HOW TF DO THEY HAVE 250+ REAL??
If you don’t use Kim’s spinners to pay off your debt you can sell them when he’s not there for 200
@@donglegs ty I’ll try it
How do you have so many reáls at day 4?!
If you roll successful skill check when talking to super rich light bending millionair then you would get 100+ reals
Also some thoughts give u money
What happens if you finish the game with it?
Jean asks if you became a nihilist, Kim takes off the jacket after the tribunal because he doesn't feel it's appropriate now that a couple people died. If you wear the other jacket Jean freaks out and says there better not be a photo of you wearing that jacket floating out there or the liberals are going to f*** you all to death.
he takes it off after the tribunal i think
@@Igor-zj1lc ooh, that's what i had guessed.
that's too bad, i would have LOVED to hear Vicquemare's reactions to seeing both Harry and Kim with their jackets x)
@@Igor-zj1lc weirdly enough, even though i never got the jackets, I still got the dialogue option of Harry wondering where Kim's went after the tribunal. Must be a bug
@@afreshloafofbread629Did you get Kim killed
schizophrenic voice simulator
They forgot to censor it at 6:48
They didn't. Kim is gay and he gets a pass for it. If Harry internalizes the homosexual underground thought and comes out as gay too, the censorship banishes and he can say it too.
The game is very deliberate about these things.
@@Zirkalaritz No, they actually forgot. The characters *still* say the word "faggot", after all. The censoring works for a player perspective only
@@ZirkalaritzKim says it other times and it's still censored, and in older releases of the game it was completely uncensored.
I think they just missed some.
why do they have to censor it? I think it would be funnier if they just let the word fly haha
Cause it’s flaubert and not the f slur. That’s why Kim said it uncensored
Them censoring their own game always made me sad
It doesn't make me mad, just disappointed that they had even done so
The fact that they did it themselves should show that it’s a choice that means something. Not just a censor.
@@books2438 what do you mean by that?
It is downright patronizing to their audience if they're not just doing it to appease whatever organization allows them to release the game
@@Bee_Tea_Seanah, Kim wasn’t censored cuz he got the gay pass
@@Bee_Tea_Sea People have theories about it, like the censors being in Harry’s mind.
And it’s not patronizing. Whether they did it because they wanted to spare people hearing it or for a lore reason, it’s not patronizing.
@@books2438 "because they wanted to spare someone hearing it"
Totally not patronizing to the viewer at all
So much so that you needed to afirm it by saying "its not patronizing" twice in the same reply to convince me of how not patronizing it is to censor dialog in a story that deals with r4p3 and murd3r throughout
And if it were a lore thing I would love to see where they speak about the censorship in game having to do with the lore, genuinely I would like to get a real answer as to why they did this to their story