How to pronounce German Umlauts in 10 minutes! | Feli from Germany

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  • @FelifromGermany
    @FelifromGermany  3 года назад +184

    Thomas Müller? Jägermeister? How do you pronounce these letters with the two dots on top in German? Can you learn it if you didn't grow up with it? And what if you don't have these letters on your keyboard? I gave my best to make a video that will help you guys with all of these questions and will hopefully make the German Umlauts a little less scary. Please add YOUR tips and tricks for pronouncing the Umlauts in the comments below! ⤵

    • @joshuajohnson2216
      @joshuajohnson2216 3 года назад +7

      Thanks German girl in America. Sorry about that.

    • @typxxilps
      @typxxilps 3 года назад +8

      burn the Björn

    • @emmanuelgutierrez6306
      @emmanuelgutierrez6306 3 года назад +4

      When will you visit México lol?

    • @3.k
      @3.k 3 года назад +10

      Jägermeister is a case like Käse, that you mention in your video: I think most people pronounce it like Jegameista (

    • @alvaroludolf
      @alvaroludolf 3 года назад +5

      In an American keyboard you can use the double quotes as the Umlaut, so just type "u and you get the ü. Fortunately I don't have this problem because in Brazilian keyboards, there is not a single accent that they don't have... except the weird circle the Swedes uses on their vowels. I tried using a German keyboard when I moved to Berlin but failed miserably because of the Y-Z thing. So now I live in Germany, and have a Brazilian keyboard, sometimes configured as an American keyboard.

  • @extofer
    @extofer 3 года назад +236

    Okay, your tip on the ü by saying “eee” with a rounded mouth helped me IMMENSELY. I’ve been learning German for over a year now and never heard that tip until your video. Thank you!!

    • @rsvihla
      @rsvihla 3 года назад +8

      That’s the way my German teacher taught us to pronounce ü.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah 3 года назад +2

      I've heard it a lot in reference to the French u.

    • @GAMINGGuru-me3ex
      @GAMINGGuru-me3ex 3 года назад +2

      It's the same like उ in hindi

    • @bbranett2188
      @bbranett2188 3 года назад

      Shape an english... U say an English eee. It's not that hard.

    • @bbranett2188
      @bbranett2188 3 года назад +2

      It isn't that hard. Shape the vowel under the umlaut with your mouth. The umlaut needs you to pronounce a short eh sound after that

  • @floundergearjam
    @floundergearjam 3 года назад +510

    Felicia, people pay $300 a credit hour to learn what you just instructed in a short video. Thanks, safe travels. Great video.

    • @rubenvalverde6548
      @rubenvalverde6548 3 года назад +12

      Ja, das ist Wahrheit

    • @xyzcomp08
      @xyzcomp08 3 года назад +19

      I think it makes a massive difference to have someone extremely fluent in both languages do this. Feli has the ability to speak English with almost no detectable German accent, but then blend in more or less of that sound when saying both German and English. It makes learning more fun!

    • @andrewphillips3973
      @andrewphillips3973 3 года назад +4

      @@xyzcomp08 almost no detectable German accent? Serious? She has a very distinctive German accent and it's great that she isn't losing it. You confuse her ability to speak American English very clearly with a lack of accent.

    • @xyzcomp08
      @xyzcomp08 3 года назад +14

      @@andrewphillips3973 what do you think I meant? She speaks English clearly without a strong accent. To me, it's almost not noticeable. If you have an issue, I can't help you.

    • @ArmyJake
      @ArmyJake 3 года назад

      I have the hardest time with umlauts, my teacher tells me my pronunciation is very good, except for my umlauts

  • @ContesHistoireEtLegendes
    @ContesHistoireEtLegendes 3 года назад +203

    As a native French speaker, the Umlauts are really easy to say because those are sounds we also have in our language. So if you already know French,
    Ä = ai
    Ö = eu
    Ü = u
    And for the German "U" we write it "ou"

    • @trishaniweller1931
      @trishaniweller1931 Год назад +14

      I am learning french and I was thinking how ü sounds just like the french u to me and the ö sounds a lot like eu. I didn't think about the ä sounding like the french ai thank you for that

    • @ContesHistoireEtLegendes
      @ContesHistoireEtLegendes Год назад +1

      @@trishaniweller1931 no problem 😊

    • @SuperLetout
      @SuperLetout Год назад

      Merci bcp!!!!!!

    • @SuperLetout
      @SuperLetout Год назад

      Et pour ÄU?

    • @matthau87
      @matthau87 Год назад +1

      @@SuperLetout German "äu" and "eu" are pronounced like oi in English, oí in Spanish or oï in French.

  • @kennethbailey2616
    @kennethbailey2616 3 года назад +99

    I grew up with a father who spoke Russian and German. One of his sisters grew up in Belgium and spoke French. My German great grandmother spoke broken English unless she was mad, then only German.

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

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    • @CesarGarcia-nd5xz
      @CesarGarcia-nd5xz 3 года назад +2

      Hahaha family mr. worldwide

    • @nathan2813
      @nathan2813 3 года назад +3

      Haha, people should do the OPPOSITE when they're mad - STAY with the language they're least-fluent in so nobody understands them when they say something they later regret! :oD

    • @фарсяирак
      @фарсяирак 3 года назад

      😂😂😂🌹

    • @фарсяирак
      @фарсяирак 3 года назад

      Hello, because what are you talking about where do you live

  • @MarcusAgricola
    @MarcusAgricola 3 года назад +125

    The Ü is quite easy to learn when you know how it was developed. It replaced the combination "iu" in middle high German and when you say "iu" very quick and short it already develops into "ü". Or you try to say "ooh" and you bring your chin up and to an underbite. For the Ö, actually place your tongue behind the lower front teeth and push the middle of the tongue slightly to the front as if you were trying to say "yo" (io again in middle high German). The Ä is just an A where you broaden your chin area instead of going vertical.

    • @jimjungle1397
      @jimjungle1397 3 года назад +1

      The Ü is often taught to say a long English e (ee or ie) with the lips rounds. Pretty much German ie with the lips rounded.

    • @HalfEye79
      @HalfEye79 3 года назад +2

      Are you sure, it is "iu" and not "ui"? I ask because of the city of Duisburg.

    • @MarcusAgricola
      @MarcusAgricola 3 года назад +4

      @@HalfEye79 Yes, for example the middle high German word for adventure was "adventiure". Duisburg has a completely different etymological development and in the first naming was "Tusburch" and the region it was in was actually originally also "Diusburggau". As you see originally it developed from "iu".

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen 3 года назад +7

      I've always found the "move your mouth this way" descriptions incredibly unhelpful. When I try to do that, it doesn't give the right sound, and when I try to figure out what I do to get the sound, it doesn't seem to match the description.

    • @12tanuha21
      @12tanuha21 3 года назад

      @@MarcusAgricola I thought middle high german iu changed into modern high german eu
      liut - Leut
      diutsch - deutsch

  • @eleonoralydia8884
    @eleonoralydia8884 3 года назад +14

    When I was learning German, my teacher told me that the ö was pronounced by forming the lips as if you were going to say o but say e (the German) instead and for the ü you form the lips to say u but say i (the German or ee in English) instead. It helped a lot.

    • @nuvaboy
      @nuvaboy 2 года назад +1

      that's the way I tend to explain it to people: Your mouth forms the base vowel while your tongue forms an 'e' (or an 'i', which amounts to the same). when switching between base vowel and umlaut your lips shouldn't move at all (as far as I've observed on myself)

    • @ImzSoAWSUM
      @ImzSoAWSUM 6 месяцев назад +1

      This helped me so much! Thank you

  • @alvagoldbook2
    @alvagoldbook2 3 года назад +34

    When I took German in high school my teacher said that when making the O or U umlaut sound you make a small o shape with your lips and make a U shape with your tongue and press it against the back of your front teeth. We were taught ezsets and umlauts, but this was the mid 90’s and he said that a lot of people thought this would go away with the advancement of computers, in order to make keyboards more universal. I’m actually really glad this never happened, as I’ve always thought these extra letters were kinda cool.

    • @Schwuuuuup
      @Schwuuuuup 3 года назад +5

      This sounds exactly like I imagine a american teacher in the 90s... "They'll surely stop doing this, when they realize how dumb it is not to buy American Keyboards" :-D. Although there was some movement in the 90s with the "Rechtschreibereform" (spelling reform). People wanted to get rid of inconsistent spelling (some of which was introduced into German by importing foreign words).
      In German is a rule that states a vowel followed by a double consonants is to be pronounced short so "satt" (not hungry) vs Saat (seed). But to make a sharp S sound you also use double S... but how could you have a long vowel sound in front of a sharp S? ß To the rescue: Masse (mass) is a different word than Maße (measurements/dimensions of something). The usage of ß was quite random before and was adjusted by the spelling reform. But the reform was introduced quite brutally and met a lot of resistance, so it had to be weakened a lot to get passed... so we still have inconsistencies or at least the old spelling is still allowed.

    • @エルフェンリート-l3i
      @エルフェンリート-l3i 3 года назад

      Not to be rude, really, but what that teacher said sounds extremely narrow minded and ignorant damn

  • @lydiajordan777
    @lydiajordan777 2 года назад +26

    I’m a Chinese speaker and the long version of ü does exist in Chinese pronunciation. It sounds and writes exactly the same as ü in German. But it somehow took me a while to realize it😅

    • @s._3560
      @s._3560 Год назад +1

      It is basically the same as in Hanyu pinyin 玉.

  • @lilliandrescher8713
    @lilliandrescher8713 3 года назад +95

    I started learning German 56 years ago. After 4 years of study, I was pretty fluent, but I decided to retake the course after decades of not speaking the language. German has changed so much since the 1960s, I almost feel as though I need to start from scratch. Many German words I learned don’t seem to be used much anymore as they have been replaced by words from other languages.

    • @Xxrasierklinge7
      @Xxrasierklinge7 2 года назад +11

      That's interesting, can you give us some examples?

    • @aymanhadji8915
      @aymanhadji8915 2 года назад +6

      Give us some examples please

    • @HonestlyHolistic
      @HonestlyHolistic Год назад +5

      @@RM-gc8lx it definitely did change a lot and I can tell when reading old articles and imperial studies

    • @ChrisB_Crisps
      @ChrisB_Crisps Год назад +1

      _"[...] I almost feel as though I need to start from scratch"_ Are you sure about that?

    • @RAMAFASTENAMONATO
      @RAMAFASTENAMONATO 10 месяцев назад +1

      @lilliandrescher8713
      "Wes Brot ich ess, des Lied ich sing"

  • @jenniferbrown913
    @jenniferbrown913 3 года назад +11

    This was such a great video! I think learning a language is so much easier once you understand the proper way to say the vowels. And that bit at the end about using an "e" next to the vowel instead of the 2 dots makes so much sense to me now when I see German written. Informative, insightful, loved it!

  • @dannystewart6027
    @dannystewart6027 3 года назад +2

    I know I have said this before but Felicia just has a natural talent for teaching. Success will follow whatever she has planned for her future. She has much to be proud of. So admirable!

  • @mohamedabdullahi3187
    @mohamedabdullahi3187 3 года назад +13

    Believe me i have been learning german 6 months,and i understood today how to pronounce Die Umlaute today thanks sis .
    German language is diffecult ,but interesting
    These days i enjoy learning German
    Thanks.

  • @rubyjohnson5975
    @rubyjohnson5975 3 года назад +4

    Great video Feli!!! I already knew the umlauts, but every time I said them I felt like it was an approximation of the real pronunciation. After watching your video, I realized I had it right and I gained confidence in speaking German. Thank you!!!!

  • @natashaw401
    @natashaw401 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for posting this. Helpful as a person who doesn't speak as much German as I used to and forgetting proper way needed this

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

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      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

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  • @kleighmarie
    @kleighmarie 7 месяцев назад +1

    SO glad a friend recommended your video and I found this channel! It has been my goal to learn German for years (family heritage and personal interest), and you are a natural teacher! Danke!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @dave1986R
    @dave1986R 3 года назад +13

    One of the coolest stories involving Americans using umlauts is how Mötley Crüe came up with their name. They were drinking Löwenbräu beer when they came up with the name and they decided to use the umlauts they saw on the beer bottles. But they didn’t even know what umlauts were and the first show they ever played in Germany the fans were pronouncing the name differently and the guys in the band had no idea why until they found out what umlauts were.

  • @dougmorris2134
    @dougmorris2134 3 года назад +2

    Hi Feli, you have just answered/clarified the sounds and what to do if your keyboard doesn’t have the Umlaut letters.
    I enjoy all your interesting videos and have happy memories of visiting Wuppertal and Hamburg in 2011
    Vielen Dank and best wishes from Oxfordshire UK. I❤️🇩🇪🇪🇺

  • @henryscheferkort947
    @henryscheferkort947 3 года назад +3

    When I was a kid the Umauts were taut to us for pronunciation, and you could also find them in the websters dictionary.

  • @zahruakd
    @zahruakd 3 года назад

    I am from kerala, southern part of india. These days, i am trying to learn German by listening Michel Thomas audio lectures. This vedio helps me a lot. Tanx

  • @damanifesto
    @damanifesto 3 года назад +3

    Good post. Most of my German studies were in High School and university 30 years ago. A refresher is needed!

  • @nicks4802
    @nicks4802 Год назад +1

    Lol my grandmother is german, but I’ve never heard her speak it unless shes swearing under her breath.
    Your pronunciation of Germany with the accent perfectly demonstrates her accent and how she speaks

  • @pendragon2012
    @pendragon2012 3 года назад +11

    Oh gods, thank you!! Always had trouble with these when learning German! Hope your trip is going well!

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

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  • @oscartrejos8976
    @oscartrejos8976 2 года назад +1

    Hi... I really love your channel and videos.. I have a german ancestor from Munich and I have learned a lot from you and your Country.... Im a devoted fan of yours...

  • @paulstroessnerjr7862
    @paulstroessnerjr7862 3 года назад +28

    Thank you for this! My last name is Stroessner. However, before my great-grandparents moved to America, it was Strössner. So, the ö was pronounced as it is in öffnen. These days, we pronounce it Stressner (with the O being sient). The only people who have ever pronounced my last name correctly are either German, or they follow history and are familiar with Alfredo Stroessner, a former dictator of Paraguay who is of no relation to me thank God!
    I hope you're enjoying your trip. I would love to go to Germany someday.

    • @biankakoettlitz6979
      @biankakoettlitz6979 3 года назад +3

      Maybe your name will be pronounced more correctly from now on because of this video. My surname is an exemple for writing "oe", a German Standesbeamter got the writing wrong once and therefor this is the correct spelling now😁

    • @paulstroessnerjr7862
      @paulstroessnerjr7862 3 года назад +1

      @@biankakoettlitz6979 Haha I bet your name gets butchered too! Even though we have different last names, I still feel a connection to people with an oe in their names

    • @HalfEye79
      @HalfEye79 3 года назад +1

      In my lastname is no umlaut but "eh". It is written "ee", "he", or "e". Thats going on my nerves sometimes.
      Because there is another "e" in this name, my father made a joke about that in a bank. The clerk asked, whether there in one or two "e". My father responded with "two". But than, he corrected the clerk "Now you have written it with three Es." Think of "Pfeiffer" in "Die Feuerzangenbowle" when he is asked, whether his name is written with one or two Fs.

    • @biankakoettlitz6979
      @biankakoettlitz6979 3 года назад +1

      @@paulstroessnerjr7862 it got worth with my name in Røros (Norway) : they pronounced it "k o e/spelling each singel charakter/t l i tsch" because of their German mining tradition in ca. 1800😁 it took me a while to recognize my name😁OK. I am not much better when I speak norvegian, I gess😀

    • @biankakoettlitz6979
      @biankakoettlitz6979 3 года назад +1

      @@HalfEye79 I. love the movie and thought of it.😀

  • @johngoterch3513
    @johngoterch3513 5 месяцев назад +1

    Felicia, I'm impressed with your English. For a Kraut who was born in Germany and lived in Cincinatti for only eight years you sound a red blooded American. I have an Austro-Hungarian background but never learned German.

  • @jasonpendergraft4511
    @jasonpendergraft4511 3 года назад +9

    I think that was the most enjoyable foreign language lesson I ever had..😀 Danke Felicia..

  • @bzert281
    @bzert281 3 года назад +1

    Nice lesson! An old language book i read back in the 70s called speaking ue as "positioning your mouth for "oo", then saying "ee". turns out a lot of foreign sounds can be done that way, setting up for this sound, then making that sound instead. (and then speaking with real speakers as much as you can, to 'sand off the rough edges' of your pronunciation. Speaking sure is, all about listening.)

  • @jaypeterson7637
    @jaypeterson7637 3 года назад +6

    Thanks...my wife and I were discussing this very topic last evening!😀

  • @gregorarmstrong01
    @gregorarmstrong01 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for reminding me that i only seem to say o umlaut in the short way. need to get better at that to sound more natural

  • @DiggerWhoops
    @DiggerWhoops 2 года назад +8

    How did you get such a great American accent in so short a time? You are amazing!

  • @stevel7310
    @stevel7310 2 года назад +1

    Perhaps someone has already commented on this but to type letters with umlouts on a standard English keyboard you can use Alt codes. Your keyboard needs to have the number keypad on the right hand end of the keyboard. Hold down the left hand Alt key, type '129' on the keypad and release the Alt key. You will have ü. You don't need to hold down the numbers, just type them as normal. This won't work using the row of numbers above the letter keys.
    ä Alt + 132
    ö Alt + 148
    Ö Alt + 153
    ß Alt + 225
    ü Alt + 129
    Ü Alt + 154
    Ä Alt + 142
    There are counltess other Alt codes for many other letters/symbols.

  • @jimattrill8933
    @jimattrill8933 Год назад +4

    If you read an old English book you may come across the two dots above a vowel. This is called a 'diareses' and was a way to show that a double vowel was pronounced as two vowels following each other. The most famous example is cooperative which is pronounced co operative and sometimes is spelt co-operative. Of course English native speakers know how it is pronounced so the diaresis is never used nowadays. (I don't know how to type this...)

  • @suzkstein
    @suzkstein Год назад +2

    I am learning German and just discovered your channel. This video was SO helpful. From listing to linguists talk about this it has to do with tongue placement and movement. You did an excellent job of explaining how to pronounce these!😊 If you are not already studying linguistics you definitely should go for it. You'd be a natural.

  • @pristysavythri8639
    @pristysavythri8639 3 года назад +39

    German was my major when I went to university years ago. maybe because i’m an indonesian, that’s why I never had problem with umlaut pronunciation, since almost all the alphabet in german is pronounced similarly as in indonesian. the hardest part of this language is the Grammatik!

    • @bostonmeadhorn4897
      @bostonmeadhorn4897 3 года назад

      Been living in Germany for 5 years and that's still one of my biggest struggles when speaking

    • @kassirosenburg8221
      @kassirosenburg8221 3 года назад +1

      I live in Germany and grown up here, I still do grammer mistakes in my classtest. And not just a few.

    • @swyntopia
      @swyntopia 3 года назад +1

      @@kassirosenburg8221 And so do german native speakers.
      Guess why I know this ! :-)

    • @edwardblair4096
      @edwardblair4096 3 года назад

      I imagine the mapping of Latin letters into Indonesian sounds was strongly influenced by the Dutch colonial presence, which explains why it is similar to the German usage.

    • @kassirosenburg8221
      @kassirosenburg8221 3 года назад

      @@swyntopia i am a native speaker.

  • @nickgrazier3373
    @nickgrazier3373 Год назад

    Hi Feli! I was in the British RAF in the 70s and 80s in the RAF bases of Willdenrath near Monchengladbach and Guetersloh near Bielefeld. You’ve just shown me how to correctly use keyboard to put the umlaut in to Guetersloh and not just a u on its own, after all those years, I can now die happy
    Cheers Feli!

  • @MrAronymous
    @MrAronymous 3 года назад +44

    Fun fact: to get all accents on letters the you just have to switch your regular qwerty keyboard mode from US to US International. All it changes is that it allows typing accents followed by a letter to make combinations. '+e = é , `+e = è , ^+e = ê , "+u = ü, ~+n = ñ , alt+c = ç. Why not all US keyboards have this setting as standard and why so few people in the US know about it is a huge mystery...

    • @californiahiker9616
      @californiahiker9616 3 года назад +2

      Or, if you have an iPhone or iPad, just put your finger on the letter, say, o, and several options will pop up. Just slide your finger on the option you need, and then let go. Voilà! You also can opt for a German (or many other languages) keyboard under settings, general, keyboard, and choose German. I use English, French, and German keyboards. If you use the keyboard in your chosen language, the appropriate spell checking will kick in as well.

    • @DerTaran
      @DerTaran 3 года назад +2

      If you are a programmer, US international is a great keyboard setting for Germans as well. All the special characters you need are much easier to access.

    • @simonthelen5910
      @simonthelen5910 3 года назад

      Great tip. I switch between German and US keyboard layouts a lot. I will definitely give this a try.

    • @DerTaran
      @DerTaran 3 года назад

      @@simonthelen5910 In case you already have a German keybord, instead of buying a new one, you can use stickers to change the layout to test it. You will find them on the internet for some euros.

    • @simonthelen5910
      @simonthelen5910 3 года назад +1

      @@DerTaran In basically every operating system, you can select multiple keyboard layouts and switch between them using a key shortcut (e.g. Windows+Space on Windows). I'm using a German keyboard but I've memorized the US layout because characters like "{" or "\" are a lot easier to reach (for example when writing LaTex).

  • @amy-ij4rc
    @amy-ij4rc 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hey thanks for your help IAM from the states currently in Mexico and learning German so actively I hear two languages daily and practice the third

  • @thomaspc0
    @thomaspc0 3 года назад +6

    We had an airport in Austin (now just a neighborhood) named Mueller. For a long time, it was pronounced as you would think it would be pronounced in German (with an American accent of course). Then the family spoke up and said that they had always pronounced their name as "Miller" so that is now its pronunciation. Same spelling though - Mueller. Basically in Texas if something looks like it's pronounced a certain way, it often isn't.

    • @ViviNorthbell
      @ViviNorthbell Год назад

      I bet they didn't know any better. lol

  • @ashleystewart7375
    @ashleystewart7375 6 месяцев назад

    Feli is awesome, German is such beautiful language once you are passionate about it, and the more I learn about it I enjoy every part of it, I find its amazing that Feli takes the time to make videos explaining ANY German subjects it make it a more pleasant experience to learn about the culture and language.
    Thank you Feli I am from Canada ! and 18 years old, I truly want to visit Germany, hopefully I won't get lost when ever I will visit someday.

  • @larap.6334
    @larap.6334 3 года назад +8

    You are really good at giving examples of words that have similar sounds made in English. I must say that I have always had the most difficulty pronouncing ü, and still do. Also, the u sound in French.
    I will try practicing my û pronunciation with your advice in mind. I am probably a lot older than most of your subscribers, and haven’t been to Europe for a long time now, but I really enjoy your cultural comparisons and I think, if you’re at all interested, you could have a career in television. You’re an attractive young woman who appears to be at home on screen. Keep up the great work!

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/channel/UCjGgnggAF5CaELqjKA_lkPA

  • @Tomsnothere
    @Tomsnothere 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for helping me realize how difficult my own name is to pronounce, lol. I am told my grandfather changed the ü to ue when we immigrated to the U.S.
    When my dad used to pronounce our last name the correct way it sounded like, as you said, trying to say the u and e at the same time.

  • @Fidi257
    @Fidi257 3 года назад +38

    Since 2017, the ß has also been available as a capital letter ẞ. It is used when only capital letters are used, for example, for names in passports.
    In addition, the ß is not used throughout the German-speaking world: In Switzerland, the ß does not exist and ss is used instead.

    • @DerTaran
      @DerTaran 3 года назад +4

      On a Swiss keyboard/typewriter you won't find capital ä, ö and ü as well, the shift key is used to access French letters with accents.

    • @LeeOfLawazantiya
      @LeeOfLawazantiya 3 года назад

      1:34

    • @Fidi257
      @Fidi257 3 года назад +2

      @@LeeOfLawazantiya As if I would watch the whole video before posting a comment. Who does something like that?

    • @alexandergutfeldt1144
      @alexandergutfeldt1144 3 года назад

      @@DerTaran I'm sure you know, but many may not...
      to type an uppercase ü -> Ü on the SwissGerman keyboard, you need to press and release the caps lock key, then press ü, which results in the Ü, and then press & release caps lock again.
      I've heard/read many comments stating that the 'caps lock' key is useless... well, it is used in Switzerland!

    • @DerTaran
      @DerTaran 3 года назад

      @@alexandergutfeldt1144 I know it, but I consider it - somehow - cheating.

  • @w.alan.21
    @w.alan.21 3 года назад +1

    Good tutorial. You can print out (or view online) an extended ASCII chart and enter any of the special characters, foreign letters, math symbols, borders, etc. via Alt+decimal-number.

  • @joellongfellow3574
    @joellongfellow3574 3 года назад +5

    Sehr gut, Feli! Dankeschõn. Keep up the fantastic content.

  • @davidbraun6209
    @davidbraun6209 3 года назад +1

    My father (son of a Bayer) taught me this simple tip for pronouncing ö and ü correctly. For ö, round your lips so as to say "oh" but say through the rounded lips "eh." For ü, round lips as if to say "u" but say "ih" through the rounded lips.

  • @jonkraft7428
    @jonkraft7428 2 года назад +5

    I am an American of German descent. My grandparents spoke German when they were young but my parents never learned it. I took German in high school and I have been to Germany a few times. So, I can speak German to a limited extent but I am far from fluent.
    My grandmother and other (older) German Americans pronounced ö and ü differently than you describe in the video.
    The ö was pronounced much like the German e. For example, können and kennen sound pretty much the same. Also, listen to Wayne Newton's song Danke Schoen. In the song, schoen (schön) rhymes with the English pain and explain. According to your video, that would be wrong; however, my grandmother (and others) did pronounce it that way.
    And consider this example from German poet Franz Grillparzer:
    Wie viel weißt du, o Mensch, der Schöpfung König,
    Der du, was sehbar siehst, was meßbar mißt,
    Wie viel weißt du! und wieder, ach, wie wenig,
    Weil, was erscheint, doch nur ein Äußres ist.
    In the first and third lines König and wenig are supposed to rhyme.
    My grandmother (and others) also pronounce ü differently than what you describe in the video. Consider the ee in the English words see and flee. That is how the ü was usually pronounced.
    So, über and Fieber would rhyme. Vier (4) and für would sound the same.
    But ü can also have a short i sound, as in the English flick or stick.
    I think the German poet Nikolaus Lenau gives us an example:
    Mitten in dem Maienglück
    Lag ein Kirchhof innen
    Der den raschen Wanderblick
    Hielt zu ernstem Sinnen.
    In the first and third lines Glück and Blick are supposed to rhyme.
    My grandmother and others her age pronounced the ä pretty much the same as what you describe in your video.
    Why do you suppose we have these differences in pronunciation between what you describe in your video and the way the older German Americans pronounced words with the umlauts ö and ü?
    Is there a region in Germany in which High German is spoken the way my grandmother spoke it?
    Is it possible that High German in Germany used to be spoken the way my grandmother spoke it, but that the pronunciation in Germany changed over the years?
    Any insight you could provide would be much appreciated. Thank you.

    • @numivis7807
      @numivis7807 Год назад +3

      That’s most likely because there are a lot of dialects. I’m Schwäbisch they say schen instead of schön for example. Your grandparents most likely were from a region were they pronounced it differently. But in „high German“ and most German dialects the umlaut is pronounced the way she is doing it in the video :)

    • @numivis7807
      @numivis7807 Год назад +2

      Oh also, the song danke schoen (correct spelling is Dankeschön) is sung with an American accent so it’s definitely not how Germans would say it :)

    • @anna-elisabethbender3123
      @anna-elisabethbender3123 3 месяца назад

      No, the description in the video is 100% correct High German. Your relatives probably spoke the dialect of their region.

  • @tylerdicky7046
    @tylerdicky7046 Год назад +1

    Great explanation! I'm learning german on duolingo and was definitely struggling with the umlauts. Thanks!

  • @thejerseylady1
    @thejerseylady1 3 года назад +6

    Thanks muchly! Our name was Ruber with the Umlaut in the old days, but now we write Rueber. However we pronounce it Reeber which causes no end of trouble as people want to say Roober. Our mail comes Reuber, Reiber Rieber Reeber and other ways too.

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/channel/UCjGgnggAF5CaELqjKA_lkPA

    • @ghostgame1413
      @ghostgame1413 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/channel/UCjGgnggAF5CaELqjKA_lkPA

  • @darinjohnson7318
    @darinjohnson7318 9 месяцев назад

    Another great video, thank you! The way that I was instructed in my German class was to make my mouth into a shape for saying an “o” sound (like “open”, then say a “u”, for ü, then basically the opposite for ö (make a “u” shape, like for saying “united”, but the say “o”).

  • @felixstoll2277
    @felixstoll2277 3 года назад +8

    I once knew an American student here in Germany who had learned German but completely gave up the pronunciation of Ü. Instead, he always pronounced it like a normal German U.
    My advice to him was that instead of the U, he should pronounce the Ü like the German I, with which he had no problems. Germans are more likely to understand you when you say Minchen instead of Munchen. Guess where the name Miller came from.

    • @VTdarkangel
      @VTdarkangel 3 года назад

      Miller is actually English. I don't think it ever had the "ü" vowel sound. In English (at least in the US), the most common Anglicized spellings for Müller are either Mueller or Muller. That being said, many of the Old English "ü" sounds (often written with "y") became an "i" in Modern English, so Miller may have been originally Myller.

    • @felixstoll2277
      @felixstoll2277 3 года назад +2

      ​@@VTdarkangel It's very likely that you are right. Müller might not be the origin of Miller. But both words definitely have the same origin and Müller is the correct German translation of Miller. Mueller is just the German replacement of the umlaut, as mentioned in this video. Before there was a uniform spelling in Germany, Müller was also sometimes spelled Myller here.
      And btw. if you say Muller for Müller most Germans will struggle to understand it, while Miller is easier to understand.

    • @VTdarkangel
      @VTdarkangel 3 года назад

      @@felixstoll2277 That is interesting. That suggests German ears are listening more to the part of the vowel that is shaped by the tongue than by the lips.

  • @Sevs_stuff1234
    @Sevs_stuff1234 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this video it helped with my german

  • @alishavornbrock2533
    @alishavornbrock2533 3 года назад +5

    This was a wonderful refresher ever scene watching your videos I have been trying to recall all the German I learned back in high school! Even tho it was only 3 years ago. It seems like I can sometimes barely remember the phrases I used when I visited Germany.

    • @coryburris8211
      @coryburris8211 3 года назад

      At least you are only 3 years removed from studying German, for me it's been over 30 years. I would like to get back into it, maybe when (if?) I retire and can devote more time to studying.

  • @hessanfeg
    @hessanfeg Год назад +1

    When I was learning German, I created a trick for the umlauts. I basically shape my mouth as the underlying letter (a, o, u), then say E. :D

  • @Martina-rg4me
    @Martina-rg4me 3 года назад +3

    Great video Feli! You’re so clear with your explanations. Wish I could come up with some tips but to be honest I learned them by ear 😅 no tricks here..

  • @k.r.baylor8825
    @k.r.baylor8825 2 года назад

    A _brilliant_ video. I have been struggling for years to hear the difference between a, ae, o, oe, and u, ue. You succinctly explained it to a long-time and very casual German student like me. Now if I can only remember the vocabulary...

  • @SonjaMGFX
    @SonjaMGFX 3 года назад +3

    I like that you included the U+I hack to say Ü but there is a similar hack for Ö. You make your lips into an O shape and say E (the German E) 😊

  • @monikaschwahn9246
    @monikaschwahn9246 Год назад

    You are a fantastic German teacher and ambassador! I love watching and sharing your videos with my American family. Liebe Grüße aus Bonn, Monika

  • @mikeh720
    @mikeh720 3 года назад +16

    I was taught to say the soft English "e" while holding my mouth in the position to say the presented a, o, or u. The variations came from use and practice.
    *edit: 3 seconds later, Feli says the same thing! 😂

  • @Charlie_Toben
    @Charlie_Toben 2 года назад +2

    Great video. The only thing I wish you had done is pronounce the ö and ü back to back without any other words. So like this: " ö (pause) ü (pause) (then repeat around 10 times) "

  • @betsysingh-anand3228
    @betsysingh-anand3228 3 года назад +5

    If you are ever in SE/east central Ohio, we have an historical site called Schoenbrun. We don't use umlates in our spelling, but it is certainly pronounced as if they are present. Not far from Schoenbrun is Gnadenhutten 😊

  • @libertyvilleguy2903
    @libertyvilleguy2903 3 года назад +2

    You are a good educator! This is valuable stuff.

  • @CO84trucker
    @CO84trucker 3 года назад +6

    Back in the day, I helped out a German teacher with typing those German umlaut characters on her computer. I grew up being computer savvy and discovered that one could type those German characters with special keystrokes (i.e.: ä = Alt+0228).

    • @silverstreettalks343
      @silverstreettalks343 3 года назад +1

      I almost posted the same.
      In fact, my previous computer, with a 15.6" screen has a numeric keypad, something I sought so that I could not only type the umlauts and ß, but also so that I could type Old English characters, æ, þ ð.
      I eventually discovered the joys of an ultraportable, but now have to use Character Map to find those characters.

    • @k.r.baylor8825
      @k.r.baylor8825 2 года назад

      For those who are curious:
      German umlaut keyboard shortcuts
      ß = alt + 0223
      Ä = alt + 142
      ä = alt + 0228
      Ö = alt + 153
      ö = alt + 0246
      Ü = alt + 154
      ü = alt + 0252

  • @msingh1932
    @msingh1932 Год назад

    This young lady clarified what I could never get in my German class...many, many years ago

  • @riverman
    @riverman 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for that excellent lesson!

  • @oerli9034
    @oerli9034 Год назад

    Thänk you, Feli from Görmäny for this really väry interesting lässon.

  • @Schwuuuuup
    @Schwuuuuup 3 года назад +4

    I hoped you would mention that the dots are remnants of the additional E, that wandered from after A/O/U to above , and then dissolved to only be two lines and later two dots. You can think of the two dots as the top and Bottom line of the E that is not there anymore but can brought back when you don't have a German Keyboard. Its the same with the â in French, where the ^ once was an s after the a.

  • @jeremiahlyleseditor437
    @jeremiahlyleseditor437 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for this.
    This will ease my pronunciation of the language.
    Maybe do another about speaking the language?

  • @mactac25
    @mactac25 3 года назад +4

    Thomas Müller! Mein Leiblingsfußballer!
    Sorry, I couldn’t resist. 😃
    As an American who’s trying to learn German later in life, I’ll take all the lessons I can get. I sing in a German choir in my hometown. Many of the singers emigrated from Germany to America. I typically sit between one of the native speakers and a guy who served in the US Army in Germany who married a Munich girl and brought her back with him to the States. They’re a big help with pronunciation, especially umlauts. I must be doing OK, they don’t correct me very often.

    • @3.k
      @3.k 3 года назад +1

      They would probably tell you that it’s “Liebling”, not “Leibling”, though. 🤗
      ei is pronounced like ay in German, ie is pronounced like ee.
      But you made a good job by connecting two substantives with an s here. 😃👍

  • @Freebirdz3
    @Freebirdz3 2 месяца назад

    When I woke this morning I had no idea that I needed to see this video. Thank you for making this video, a tremendous help in my language lesson.

  • @carudatta
    @carudatta 3 года назад +9

    As a French guy with an Algerian background once said to me: German is funny, you put little dots on the letters like in Arabic.

  • @MrYorickJenkins
    @MrYorickJenkins 8 месяцев назад

    I think that was very nicely done. I'll send my German pupil a link. You could mention an addtonal tip for the ü sound for anyone who is a native French speaker or who speaks French quite well. The German ü sounds I think quite like the French u- "tu" J'ai lu je l'ai su, etc

  • @engorgioarmani3381
    @engorgioarmani3381 3 года назад +5

    Ü = the tongue in the position of “ee” but the lips in the position of “oo”.

  • @TheOGRokma
    @TheOGRokma 3 года назад

    Es ist einfach so nice, dass ich hier Deutsch reinschreiben kann, und niemand versteht's außer du

  • @DyvmSlorm
    @DyvmSlorm 3 года назад +5

    Your tongue trick seemed to work for the Ü as well. Say U then move your tongue slightly forward and up to touch the sides of your top teeth and you should be close to the Ü sound. Similar to how the Ë worked as you mentioned.

  • @bachpham5357
    @bachpham5357 3 года назад +2

    As a French speaker these 3 are very easy. ä = ai, ö = eu and the ü is just the normal "u" in French, the "u" in German is the French "ou". Being bilingual certainly helps with learning even more languages.

  • @KattMurr
    @KattMurr 3 года назад +5

    It feels like tongue placement is vital! Also using the back of your throat for specific pronunciation is key. At least for me. I know you are not a fan of Rammstein, but for me listening to them helps greatly with pronunciation of German. And when I look up the translation of song lyrics to English further helps. 😁

    • @karinbirkenbihl2053
      @karinbirkenbihl2053 3 года назад +3

      You're absolutely right, without changing the tongue position you can't change from vowel to umlaut.

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 Год назад +1

    2:40 Yeah, that is literally the sound a sheep makes. I literally say "maare" when imitating a sheep because it sounds so much better - I had no idea Germans say that, that's so cool! I've no idea where "baa" comes from... sheep don't sound like that haha! But, barks also don't normally sound like "woof" so I don't know what's up with our animal sounds in English.

  • @horentom
    @horentom 3 года назад +10

    👍 Thanks Felicia! I am a Belgian national, but from German decent as you can see in my family name. Pronunciation for non German speakers is a nightmare, however from now on I will refer people to this video! Just for your amusement here is the funny backstory about my family name : `Hören` in German means `Listen` in English ok, nothing wrong with that, however as you explained `ö` can be written also as `oe` ... still nothing wrong for German speakers, however in Dutch (60% of Belgium is Dutch speaking) `oe` is pronounced COMPLETELY different ... it translates to the `u` sound in German ... making my name `Huren` ... which translates to ... `Whores` in English ... Trust me, I have heard all the jokes ! Another interesting detail is that the German word `hören` translates to the Dutch word `horen` ... you see now why I do often omit the umlaut because it beats the alternative! 😂

  • @filipinabisdaknurseswissvlog39
    @filipinabisdaknurseswissvlog39 7 месяцев назад

    Watching your video from Switzerland. Very nice videos to learn german

  • @nomirrors3552
    @nomirrors3552 3 года назад +3

    On a Mac you can hold down the option key and the "u" to get an umlaut followed by the vowel to get ä ü ö...

    • @tonybanton1664
      @tonybanton1664 3 года назад +1

      On my PC I use Character Map, you'll find it in Windows Accessories. This will also give you ß and lots more!

    • @nomirrors3552
      @nomirrors3552 3 года назад

      @@tonybanton1664 I forgot to mention that option "s" is the "ß"! Thanks for explaining how to do this on a PC

  • @RobertShirley-lw2jn
    @RobertShirley-lw2jn Год назад

    I love the sound of german and germanic languages. They’re so beautiful.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 7 месяцев назад +8

    Don't wörry, be häppy

  • @SisypheanRoller
    @SisypheanRoller 2 года назад

    Wow, this is so short and to-the-point that I just had to leave a comment. You have a knack for teaching. Keep it up!

  • @svartholstjornuson6215
    @svartholstjornuson6215 2 года назад +3

    I try to make a subtle U with my lips when saying Ü.

  • @greggoso600
    @greggoso600 3 года назад +1

    the " try to pronounce e at the same time" really helped with the u with umlaut sound! really surprised it did tbh, great video as always keep it up :)

  • @DruSolis
    @DruSolis 3 года назад +4

    I've actually been trying to learn another language (not German, tut mir leid!) and they try to do the pronunciation with accent characters -- and as a native English speaker who never had to use accented characters, it doesn't matter what the accent over the character is I don't know how to say it. I have to try to memorize their example sounds like the "oo" in "boot" or the "u" in "put". All I see is the letter it's over and then a strange symbol that I don't know what it does to the sound. Except for the ' over an e for words like "touche'". This was a fun video because it's been so long since I thought about umlauts.

  • @lindon1982
    @lindon1982 6 месяцев назад

    Danke schön. I start to learn " German " language, I'm appreciated you told it online.

  • @AFrenchEnderman
    @AFrenchEnderman Год назад +3

    It's surprising how does german sounds are close to french's one

    • @thorstenjaspert9394
      @thorstenjaspert9394 10 месяцев назад

      With these sounds German French learners don't struggle with, too.

    • @dominikoeo
      @dominikoeo 6 месяцев назад

      Because French evolved from Latin spoken by Germanic tribes (the Franks, from which the name of the country France derives) and Celtic tribes. So it's not that surprising.
      I'm a native French and German sounds very clear to my ears, much more so than English, even though my English is much better than my German.

  • @sairhug
    @sairhug 7 месяцев назад +1

    I had a hard time remembering the ö pronunciation until one day I realised it resembled a baby bird's face in a nest (begging for food!) ... and the "i" in "bird" was the same sound. Now I need a similar trick to remembering the ä and the ü 😬 ...

  • @mr_bottomtooth
    @mr_bottomtooth 3 года назад +5

    First of all, great video again! :)
    I just have to drop an additional fact on how to pronounce the umlaut Ä: Typically in Northern Germany it is ALWAYS pronounced like an E, so here in the North we DO say Käfer like "Kehfer" and gähnen like "gehnen". In Southern Germany it might be very much like you said, but this is just another prime example on how different the various regions in Germany are. :D
    So in conclusion, in Northern variants of German the letters Ä and E are phonetically identical, it solely depends on the etymology which letter is used. :)
    Also in general, there is a very helpful chart on how to pronounce every vowel sound that exists in any human language, each sound represented by their IPA character (IPA = International Phonetic Alphabet):
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPA_vowel_chart_2005.png
    As you can see, every single vowel can be created via three attributes:
    1) How wide your mouth is opened
    2) How far to the front your tongue is positioned
    3) Whether your lips are rounded or not
    This helped me a lot to pronounce vowels that don't exist in either German or English, like the unrounded back close vowel (or the "unrounded U") for example, which corresponds to the Japanese "U" sound or the Turkish "I" without (!) the dot.
    Also, since it is the topic of this video, the Ö umlaut is represented in the chart above by the "
    ø" (the long "schön"-Ö) and the "œ" (the short "öffnen"-Ö) while the Ü umlaut is represented by the "
    y" (the long "über"-Ü) and the "ʏ" (the short "Thomas Müller"-Ü). :)

    • @leonpgut
      @leonpgut 3 года назад +2

      Weiter im Süden ist es dafür eher umgekehrt. Wir Schwaben sagen auch Käse mit dem ä-Laut, nicht Kehse. Außerdem treibt es mich manchmal auf die Palme, wenn jemand sogar das Wort Schwäbisch als Schwehbisch ausspricht ^^'

    • @zadass
      @zadass 3 года назад +1

      Thats really Interessting, We aslo mostly pronounce ä- as eh- as well here in Austria, or at least where im from. I wonder why we have that similarity even tho wer're further apart geographically than austria and the south of germany are ^^

    • @mr_bottomtooth
      @mr_bottomtooth 3 года назад +1

      @@zadass Interesting, I didn't know that. :) Well, that could be for a similar reason there is a somewhat "chopped" regional distinction for the way German speakers say the short version for ":45 hours". Here in the North and West of Germany we say "Viertel vor", for example "Viertel vor neun" representing 8:45 am, which as far as I know also applies to Bavaria and Austria. Then again there is this kind of "sash" going diagonal from Southwest to Northeast on the map straight through the German speaking area, where "Dreiviertel" ist used to describe this time, so 8:45 am would be "Dreiviertel neun". But this is a whole other topic that can get pretty heated at times which version is "correct". :D In the end it's just a regional distinction and there is no right or wrong - even though i personally find "Dreiviertel" to be rather cringeworthy, but that's probabaly because I didn't grow up with it. :D

  • @Polarbear00713
    @Polarbear00713 2 месяца назад

    Taking a deutschkurs currently and this helped me understand the sounds better with the examples. I guess its just something that comes with practice.

  • @allengreg5447
    @allengreg5447 3 месяца назад +4

    We need umlauts in the English language. One joke I've heard from English learners is: English: 5 vowels, 50,000 vowel sounds!

  • @Falk4J
    @Falk4J 9 месяцев назад

    Fun fact: The first mentioned letter "ß" or, Es-Zet is a written combination of "s" and "z" as it was handwritten in the old german writing style called "Sütterlin-Alphabet" (which you may want to google if interested). In Sütterlin the letter "s" resembled something like a walking cane with it's upper handle bowed to the right and the "z" was with these 2 bellys pointing to the right. The "s" and "z" was combined to mark a sharp pronounciation of the letter "s" like in "Straße" (street) to the opposite of a softer s-pronounciation like in "Saft" (juice).

  • @cplservicegoranson35
    @cplservicegoranson35 3 года назад +4

    My favorites city in Germany is like a fairy tale City. Rothenburg. My favorite castle in the world is also in Germany like a fairy tale Castle. Neuschwanstein. My favorite car in history came from Germany. And the list goes on and on. I grew up in Cincinnati and that was once the most German of all cities in America.

    • @berniej.rucker4252
      @berniej.rucker4252 3 года назад +3

      Frankenmuth, Michigan still has quite a few people who still speak fluent German and some can trace their roots back to Germany.

    • @cplservicegoranson35
      @cplservicegoranson35 3 года назад

      @@berniej.rucker4252 and Frankenmuth is my favorite city in Michigan. I have been there a few times. Sadly I heard the brewery was destroyed by a tornado. That city is very beautiful.

  • @JustinDOehlke
    @JustinDOehlke 8 месяцев назад

    What a pleasant gal. My name is Öhlke in German, but I never knew it's correct pronunciation. Thanks

  • @AlexFranke
    @AlexFranke 3 года назад +4

    I recently discovered these videos and they're awesome. This umlaut video reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend about pronoun gender agreement in a sentence like "Da ist das Mädchen. (Sie oder Es?) hat schöne Haare." On one hand "es" seems like it might be grammatically correct (at least by English grammatical standards), but on the other it just sounds weird to me. (Disclaimers: Sorry this is off topic or if it was previously covered. And mein deutsch ist nicht so gut aber ich lerne...) Anyone more in-the-know have any thoughts on this?
    Also I love the "maintain the shape but say an 'e' tip.. what's hardest for me is getting those sounds out properly when they are so close to other sounds (e.g. Mädchen again) but I guess that just boils down to muscle memory...

    • @tinytinky9975
      @tinytinky9975 3 года назад +3

      Das Mädchen - es hat blondes Haar - sie hat blondes Haar: spoken language: you can say „sie“. Written language: clearly a grammatical fault, if you take „sie“. I‘m teacher, I whould mark the mistake in an school essay.

    • @bouli3576
      @bouli3576 3 года назад +1

      @@tinytinky9975 It's because diminutives are neutral in German, as in Dutch.

  • @SeanRice-rv6ml
    @SeanRice-rv6ml Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video. It seems that the Umlauts all entail moving the mid to back of the tongue forward in the mouth. This has helped me a lot, as I am currently trying to learn German.

  • @lauralockman8472
    @lauralockman8472 3 года назад +6

    I’m from USA and I love the German language. When I’m super angry or upset I always say scheisse

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      @фарсяирак 3 года назад

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  • @jamesbull6266
    @jamesbull6266 3 года назад +1

    I teach Intro Biology at two community colleges. One of my favorite Biologists to talk about its Fritz Mueller (with an umulaut over the "U") which I can't even type here. I tell my students it is the only time I get to use an "umulaut" and I do my best to pronounce it correctly. Mueller is the biologist who gave us the ecological concept of "Muellerian Mimicry." There are so many German biologist and chemist who made such important discoveries, and I'm sure that is true in other field too. You might consider a series on Germans who were pioneers in their fields (another one, albeit controversial that comes to mind is Freud). In Biology Schleiden, Schwaan, and Remack are all credited with important pieces of "cell theory." And Virchow tried to steal credit of part of it from Remack (kind of a scoundrel in my opinion). I love etymology and use it a lot in my teaching Thanks again so much for all you do!!!