This might be the most controversial take to ever exist in AK history. How could you be so sure that Logos beats Logos? Like, you can clearly see that Logos kills Patriot faster than Logos. EN players man...
Cut to logos having his lower body burnt to ash, logos mommy is weeping and eya being blind due to her oripathy and saying he did well and she will not forget about him
Today's Doctor: I could only bring one of them to balans my fun Pre-Amnesia Doctor would see this and be like: *Deploy everyone. Overkill is the best kill.*
What you argue is, "if enemy has high DEF and RES Keobe is the best" or "if both map and wave suit, Ifrit is better". There's no doubt that Ejya was the best in general. GG never been the best except against few bosses in IS and SS. She has no power to melt bosses without buff/items in these IS/SS.
@@danielkiran8174 GG is useful for targeting the same enemy. She's not that good for mob rush because her drones will keep changing targets. Lin can't even attack off-skill. Eyjapapaya is better in general.
Logos is stronger than Eyja in many ways. First of all, Eyja is pure arts damage while Logos deal Necrosis damage, that is already a big strength gap between the two ops(since Elemental RES is still not a thing also it deals 12k dmg DOT), Logos skill 3 duration is also longer than Eyja but Eyja's s3 is still a good nuke, and their afk skills comparison Eyja s2 is strong but since it's not unlimited like Logos s1, the DPS is not as consistent like Logos s1. Eyja didn't fell off hard tho, Logos talent is just much stronger(since he is new) and can deal necrosis damage but they still do the same results if you pair them with debuffers and buffers. Tldr, yup Eyja the GOAT became second to LoGOAT but Eyja is still cuter 🗣️🗣️
isn't Logos' Necrosis damage from Module? Also, that's just how things are lol. The original or older operators have huge cooldowns, like Eyja, Saria, SilverAsh. X__X
Logos, when given time to charge S1, is stronger than Eyja S2. Logos, when not given time to charge S1 for multiple waves, is only stronger on ST compared to Eyja S2. Logos, when given the ability to nuke a field down, is stronger than Eyja S3. Eyja S2 is stronger in multi-wave periodically on S2 if Logos don't have 60s to charge and need to be redeployed in various parts of the map. Eyja S3 has more range coverage than Logos S3 due to her range extending in multiple lanes and backwards. Logos is superior on the DPS side and duration, but can only hit in one direction. Logos has more advantages, but Eyja is still fairly competitive depending on map and strategy for starting and midgame players. For a late game player who has more options, Logos is definitely better since you have more specialized operators to fill in the deficiencies.
Nah man, let's face it. Logos will completely replace Eyja. There's no reason to use Eyja anymore (except in casterknight squad) because Logos is just better overall. After 5 years, it's time for her to rest.
yup, eyja doesn't fall really hard, she still has her own advantage depends on situation it just like pozy and schwarz case I guess, both still good but for general use, better use pozy. same like logos and eyja case rn
The Silverash vs Mylnar differences is still true though to this day and players with a diverse set of 6 star operators don't see through their innate advantages/disadvantages because their entire squad is significantly overwhelming the stage's innate difficulty and they have an answer for all situations other than a lack of DPS. Sort of like a Brute force method, which favors extreme DPS more since all the other issues become a non-issue. A stage that perfectly highlights the difference between the two would be like H12-4. Silverash in H12-4 is able to redeploy and activate his skill fast + due to extended range to reduce pressure against the final wave of Trillby Asher, a stark contrast to Mlynar who is targeted for waves and can shred the boss + their summons while drawing aggro to himself to minimize damage on the rest of the operators, but doesn't want to be redeployed because he can't be helidropped otherwise. It's a stage which highlights their individual strengths appropriately. If you only compare them purely by DPS, obviously Mlynar wins no contest, but if he's weaker than Silverash, then he's dead on arrival for offering significantly less value for not holding secondary niches. Eyja and Logos is a more easier comparison since they both are from the same archetype and share mainly the same roles, unlike Silverash vs Mlynar who have both different archetypes in the same class (Lord vs Liberator) and different use-cases. Simultaneously, we're also comparing Eyja with no elemental module with Logos with elemental module against low/non-existent -elemental resistance mobs. In this case, Logos effectively gains true damage against tanky enemies on top of whatever's he is doing too. Logos definitely has a significant edge over Eyja, but Eyja hasn't been powercreeped to non-existence based on map pressure for that reason.
@@kyarumomochi5146 Ceobe and GG are sidegrades, neither is better than Eyja at what Eyja does which is being the best overall caster for both single target and aoe. Ceobe beats her only against elites and bosses and GG beats her in big maps with lots of trash mobs where having more range matters.
@@JulioDRai No she isnt lmfao. GG works on BOTH Elites and trash mobs while having much less sp cost, show me the maps GG doesnt beat Eyja in. Ill wait. Eyjas main use of S3 is dominated by Ceobe as she handles elites much better. Saying "EyJa iS OVerAll bEttEr EwUwuU" while not understanding that her sole niche is s2 afk skill is the most hilarious shit ever. She wasnt the best caster, cope mate.
@@kyarumomochi5146 You didn't understand what "overall better" meant, it means she covers both single and aoe dmg while being slighty worse than the others at each job not that she is "the best" caster in the game just that she can do both jobs just fine. Also her s3 isn't her main skill anymore it's her s2 that I'm using for the evaluation since its the skill she has that does very good single target dmg and also very good aoe dmg thanks to module and it's got way more applications than s3 which we already have so many of those long duration big range skills. Also also GG s2 doesn't hit harder than Eyja s2 and its only advantage is it's range which is why I said what I said.
@@JulioDRai Her s2 is litterally only usable on casual content and is not good on IS or high end content. She is also not good in SSS or RA. While GG is amazing at ALL content and dominates casual content completely. CH13 and Degenbreachers event has GG as their best operators lmfao Also GG s2 COMPLETELY overdpses Eyja s2 and its not even close, what in the world are you talking about. GG covers both single target and aoe damage better than eyja, show me a map that GG cant do well in but Eyja can and ill give you 10 maps where the opposite is true. GG was the best caster before Logos, cope
@@abduhzuhdi8391 I mean burn damage causes -20 res which is kinda busted for eyja. But she gonna spend at least half the duration trying to trigger it yeah
Nah, in utility alone Eyja already lost. Her utility only Boost Caster atk. While module less Logos has res down+arts damage taken, slow and also able to make projectiles go away. 🤔
Haber, Eyja tiene ya mucho tiempo en el juego y realmente al final no terminara de seguirle el paso al juego, esto eventualmente iba a pasar, mas teniendo en cuenta que metiendo daño elemental la brecha solo se hace mas grande
As logoat the strongest operator open his domain the king of cancer eyjafialla shrunk back in fear and then logos said: “Stand proud eyja between heaven and earth you are the deaf one 🦻”
@@kyarumomochi5146 By burst I mean more damage over a shorter period of time, Ejya's s3 vs her s2. I agree that ceobe's better than ejya, but about 90% of the content people actually DO isn't hard content. It might not be as impressive, but if I were a new player, and I was offered the choice between ejya or ceobe(disegarding the fact that i like ceobe better), I'd probably choose ejya. Just worth considering imo
Wish the braindead muh powercreep would end. I still use SA more than Mlynar and for sure I'll be using Eyja more than Logos as well. That's how it will end for me, and not just for me.
I dont remember the last time I found a stage challenging and I just roll out with a trust farm team 99% of the time. So yes. The game has become extremely easy. You can purposefully handicap yourself but you can do that in any game. I've gotten to the point where I have to try for insane things to still feel entertained like going into challenge content with shifter squads, no ground units, etc.
He is too dependent on module like it was part of his original kit. Makes no sense to me, originally modules job to baff OG operator and make them viable, hg shouldn't prenerf new operators for module sake..... ow get it, we need to farm that shitty sss
He still does more damage than eyja even without his module. And crying about needing to farm to use a module is weird bc there are many other ops who actually rely on them
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Eyja can get ~19sp after deploy, and Logos is strong even off skill
에이야는 배치 즉시 ~19sp를 얻을 수 있고, 로고스는 스킬이 없어도 강합니다
01:52, I'm gonna go on a limb and say Logos is stronger than Logos
This might be the most controversial take to ever exist in AK history. How could you be so sure that Logos beats Logos? Like, you can clearly see that Logos kills Patriot faster than Logos. EN players man...
@@Vadikus2424Ikr?so illiterate.Logos is clearly better
@@Vadikus2424 my bad, it was an En can't read moment
cuz' no one said it, I will: the strongest caster in history v/s the strongest caster of today
It's because it's starting to get repetitive 🥱
Cut to logos having his lower body burnt to ash, logos mommy is weeping and eya being blind due to her oripathy and saying he did well and she will not forget about him
Then who would be the honored one? @@fqck1999
@@fqck1999 Arknights Kaisen fr fr
마딜이라 유통기한 길었는데도 인플레 직감하고 갈드컵하던 5성따리들만 있는 필수 직군에 힐러 톱으로 이직한 그저 Goat ㅋㅋ
Goat(염소)
Today's Doctor: I could only bring one of them to balans my fun
Pre-Amnesia Doctor would see this and be like: *Deploy everyone. Overkill is the best kill.*
반대로 말하면 오픈 거의 직후에나 나온 극초기 캐릭이 5주년에 작정하고 낸 초고밸류 캐릭이랑 거의 대등하다는 거 아님? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 젠장 게일염 당신은 도대체
She was the strongest caster for 5years. Let her take some rest as healer.
But isn't she like "arguably" the best healer? LOL She's not taking much rest, just from x1 work to x2 work and now back to x1 work.
No, she wasn't. GoldenGlow had better permanent skill since her introduction (and also global range skill), and Lin had better AoE skill.
What you argue is, "if enemy has high DEF and RES Keobe is the best" or "if both map and wave suit, Ifrit is better".
There's no doubt that Ejya was the best in general.
GG never been the best except against few bosses in IS and SS. She has no power to melt bosses without buff/items in these IS/SS.
@@danielkiran8174 GG is useful for targeting the same enemy. She's not that good for mob rush because her drones will keep changing targets. Lin can't even attack off-skill. Eyjapapaya is better in general.
@@czaczaczar No lmfao. Nobody cares about Eyjas offskill damage and GGs skill coverage and cycles are much better
Q:그럼 에이야 안써도 되는건가요 A: 뭔 헛소리 입니까 에이야씨 빨리 로고스 랑 같이 가서 싸우십쇼 더 강한 로고스를 위해
편성 공증 ㅋㅋㅏ
이거 완전 예전에
Q. 이네스 나왔으니 백파 퇴물임?
A. 뭔 댕소리임 같이 써서 백머이 해야지 빨리 3뱅 안만드냐 석두 독타야?
So much power they powercreep Splash Casters despite technically not a AoE specialized class
I still have my M6 Dusk. xD
Thats because splash casters were never good in the first place
I mean that’s literally everyone lol splash casters are just kinda bad. Only reason motisma is used is because of her skill slow with her module
5년동안 해먹고 이제야 세대교체 들어가는게 어이가없네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 다른직군들은 해마다 교체가 됬는데
심지어 이직해서 거기서 다시 원탑먹음
솔직히 아직도 개좋음
모듈3렙이 편성만해도 캐스터공증22%라 버퍼로도 쓰면 그만 2스로 마저깍으로 쓰면됨
It's Logoat ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
사상 최강의 캐스터와 현대 최강의 캐스터 대전 ㄷㄷㄷ
이거 완전 주술회전
Vulcanology vs Witchcraft
Logos is stronger than Eyja in many ways.
First of all, Eyja is pure arts damage while Logos deal Necrosis damage, that is already a big strength gap between the two ops(since Elemental RES is still not a thing also it deals 12k dmg DOT), Logos skill 3 duration is also longer than Eyja but Eyja's s3 is still a good nuke, and their afk skills comparison Eyja s2 is strong but since it's not unlimited like Logos s1, the DPS is not as consistent like Logos s1.
Eyja didn't fell off hard tho, Logos talent is just much stronger(since he is new) and can deal necrosis damage but they still do the same results if you pair them with debuffers and buffers.
Tldr, yup Eyja the GOAT became second to LoGOAT but Eyja is still cuter 🗣️🗣️
Nah! Logos is more handsome.
It took 5 years for Eyja to finally step down. This powercreep took so long, I feel fine with it.
@@JohnathanTrinity that's just how strong Eyja is, you cannot take the GOAT out of the GOAT so they used another GOAT to out-GOAT the GOAT
isn't Logos' Necrosis damage from Module?
Also, that's just how things are lol. The original or older operators have huge cooldowns, like Eyja, Saria, SilverAsh. X__X
Don’t forget logos has Delta module and he deals more damage against enemies suffering from necrosis
오오 찍어주셨군요
근데 차이 꽤 나네
First showcase I've seen where somebody bothered to use the obvious virtuosa synergy that I'm ACTUALLY pumped for xD
Wait what, His S3 almost like S2.
If it's just single target to hit, Yes
The strongest caster in history VS. The strongest caster of today
에이야는 sp얻는 재능이 너무 애매해
에이야는 범부가 아니라 걍 자연사 아님?
너무많이 해먹긴 했어...
근데 로고스 써도 에이야는 쓸거같은데요 ㅋㅋㅋ 공증이 붙어서 ㅋㅋㅋ
Logos purely like thorncaster with his S1 😊
Logos is not just a strong caster, he also EO that decide who gonna be a caster for RI
Logos, when given time to charge S1, is stronger than Eyja S2.
Logos, when not given time to charge S1 for multiple waves, is only stronger on ST compared to Eyja S2.
Logos, when given the ability to nuke a field down, is stronger than Eyja S3.
Eyja S2 is stronger in multi-wave periodically on S2 if Logos don't have 60s to charge and need to be redeployed in various parts of the map.
Eyja S3 has more range coverage than Logos S3 due to her range extending in multiple lanes and backwards. Logos is superior on the DPS side and duration, but can only hit in one direction.
Logos has more advantages, but Eyja is still fairly competitive depending on map and strategy for starting and midgame players. For a late game player who has more options, Logos is definitely better since you have more specialized operators to fill in the deficiencies.
Nah man, let's face it. Logos will completely replace Eyja. There's no reason to use Eyja anymore (except in casterknight squad) because Logos is just better overall.
After 5 years, it's time for her to rest.
yup, eyja doesn't fall really hard, she still has her own advantage depends on situation
it just like pozy and schwarz case I guess, both still good but for general use, better use pozy. same like logos and eyja case rn
@@rrekz I don't know about that, I like how I can just helidrop Eyja with S2 and she has charges already prepped up to deal with whatever I need
Hahaha this is the exactly same kind of cope Silverash supporters had back when Mlynar came out
The Silverash vs Mylnar differences is still true though to this day and players with a diverse set of 6 star operators don't see through their innate advantages/disadvantages because their entire squad is significantly overwhelming the stage's innate difficulty and they have an answer for all situations other than a lack of DPS. Sort of like a Brute force method, which favors extreme DPS more since all the other issues become a non-issue.
A stage that perfectly highlights the difference between the two would be like H12-4. Silverash in H12-4 is able to redeploy and activate his skill fast + due to extended range to reduce pressure against the final wave of Trillby Asher, a stark contrast to Mlynar who is targeted for waves and can shred the boss + their summons while drawing aggro to himself to minimize damage on the rest of the operators, but doesn't want to be redeployed because he can't be helidropped otherwise. It's a stage which highlights their individual strengths appropriately.
If you only compare them purely by DPS, obviously Mlynar wins no contest, but if he's weaker than Silverash, then he's dead on arrival for offering significantly less value for not holding secondary niches.
Eyja and Logos is a more easier comparison since they both are from the same archetype and share mainly the same roles, unlike Silverash vs Mlynar who have both different archetypes in the same class (Lord vs Liberator) and different use-cases. Simultaneously, we're also comparing Eyja with no elemental module with Logos with elemental module against low/non-existent -elemental resistance mobs. In this case, Logos effectively gains true damage against tanky enemies on top of whatever's he is doing too. Logos definitely has a significant edge over Eyja, but Eyja hasn't been powercreeped to non-existence based on map pressure for that reason.
Finally Eyja will be able to rest bless her soul
Not with eyjaberry. Her ass is not retiring!
After years, now Eyja was dethroned
에벤홀츠입니다
Watching all those mortars creep through the S3 zone is pretty sweet, if nothing else.
Patriot : ah shit, here we go again
After 5 years our cute sheep has finally been powercreeped
Ceobe and GG did it years ago
Logos onii-chan!
- Amiya, Probably
로고스가 더 우위에 있는 것 같긴한데 에이야는 약간 순간 폭딜에 좋고 로고스는 지속딜에 좋은 느낌? 명방 버프계산방식 (합연산, 곱연산 같은것)은 잘 모르는데 버프 넣을때 차이가 많이 나는지 궁금하네여
I cant belive it took HG 5 years to powercreep Eyja.
Really? Ceobe and GG existed before mate
@@kyarumomochi5146 Ceobe and GG are sidegrades, neither is better than Eyja at what Eyja does which is being the best overall caster for both single target and aoe.
Ceobe beats her only against elites and bosses and GG beats her in big maps with lots of trash mobs where having more range matters.
@@JulioDRai No she isnt lmfao. GG works on BOTH Elites and trash mobs while having much less sp cost, show me the maps GG doesnt beat Eyja in. Ill wait. Eyjas main use of S3 is dominated by Ceobe as she handles elites much better. Saying "EyJa iS OVerAll bEttEr EwUwuU" while not understanding that her sole niche is s2 afk skill is the most hilarious shit ever. She wasnt the best caster, cope mate.
@@kyarumomochi5146 You didn't understand what "overall better" meant, it means she covers both single and aoe dmg while being slighty worse than the others at each job not that she is "the best" caster in the game just that she can do both jobs just fine.
Also her s3 isn't her main skill anymore it's her s2 that I'm using for the evaluation since its the skill she has that does very good single target dmg and also very good aoe dmg thanks to module and it's got way more applications than s3 which we already have so many of those long duration big range skills.
Also also GG s2 doesn't hit harder than Eyja s2 and its only advantage is it's range which is why I said what I said.
@@JulioDRai Her s2 is litterally only usable on casual content and is not good on IS or high end content. She is also not good in SSS or RA. While GG is amazing at ALL content and dominates casual content completely. CH13 and Degenbreachers event has GG as their best operators lmfao
Also GG s2 COMPLETELY overdpses Eyja s2 and its not even close, what in the world are you talking about.
GG covers both single target and aoe damage better than eyja, show me a map that GG cant do well in but Eyja can and ill give you 10 maps where the opposite is true.
GG was the best caster before Logos, cope
i still dont have eyja:") and i never wanted an operator that much that come along with limited units. gotta get logos for sure
Well, as AFKnight Enjoyer I am mosly use ger S2. Now I can add Logos S1 for more braindead strategy 😎
A non-correlated comparison. When Adele gets a delta module that does elemental damage (in her case, Burn damage) then it's worth comparing.
but without module logos damage should be bigger than eyja isn't it? I mean his reduce res talent still exist
@@abduhzuhdi8391 I mean burn damage causes -20 res which is kinda busted for eyja. But she gonna spend at least half the duration trying to trigger it yeah
@@andyjackson7116 that case only happen if HG will release it, but for now, we didn't know
copium
Nah, in utility alone Eyja already lost. Her utility only Boost Caster atk.
While module less Logos has res down+arts damage taken, slow and also able to make projectiles go away. 🤔
I hope you will make comparison between s3 eyja and s3 logos without module
결론: 둘다 쓰자
같이 쓰고 자동 모드로 돌리면 편하겠다 싶었는데 설마 에이야를 이길줄이야...
3스 범위에서 에이야가 조금 편한 상황이 있을지도 모르겠지만 로고스가 나오면 에이야는 좀 덜 쓰겠네요.
Haber, Eyja tiene ya mucho tiempo en el juego y realmente al final no terminara de seguirle el paso al juego, esto eventualmente iba a pasar, mas teniendo en cuenta que metiendo daño elemental la brecha solo se hace mas grande
Finally a stronger Caster than Eyja. FINALLY!
Love you HG
Oh wow operator from 5th anni is stronger than operator from launch, I never expected that.
That isn't necessary true, Hoo was the core caster of 4th anniversary and she is weaker then eyja.
Can eyja's S2 debuff stack ? I want to combine it with viviana
This is great, cause the Caster class is very much weak compared to the rest😮💨
I pick logos
props to Eyja tho, she lasted this long reigning supreme caster in the meta
그래서 둘다 같이쓰면 되는거죠?
trick question : its a medic
참고- 우리 에이야 5년전에 나옴
Not fair, Eija is an AOE caster, Logos is an actual single target xD
まぁこの二人一緒に使ったらもっと強いんすけどね
みんなで術ナイツしよう
엑은에중에 마지막까지 버티던 에이야가 드디어 자리를 물려주게됬네
그리고 은재가 모듈받고 에이야랑 바톤터치 각재는중
It’s not even a fair comparison when Logos has elemental damage ability. That alone can reduce large amount of HP on its own.
Cause the enemy’s defense has no limit. DOGGO Ceobe is the strongest caster
We all know it's Mostima.
그냥 좋은거 다 쓰시고 머리 녹으시면 돠요~
You see, I'm of the opinion of just use both lol
As logoat the strongest operator open his domain the king of cancer eyjafialla shrunk back in fear and then logos said: “Stand proud eyja between heaven and earth you are the deaf one 🦻”
스쿠나 vs 고죠 사토루 ㄷㄷ
Even before Logos, Ceobe beated Eyja in all content except story mode anyway lmao. Eyja lost her title the moment Ceobe got her module
I'm assuming you just mean the burst skill damage skills
@@mrrp405 All of their skills are damage skills? Idk what u mean here
burst skill??
just use mlynar or degenbrecher instead for now
rarely people use eyja S3 than S3 now
@@alasterclavis9480 And ceobe beats both of those on high end content?
@@kyarumomochi5146 By burst I mean more damage over a shorter period of time, Ejya's s3 vs her s2.
I agree that ceobe's better than ejya, but about 90% of the content people actually DO isn't hard content. It might not be as impressive, but if I were a new player, and I was offered the choice between ejya or ceobe(disegarding the fact that i like ceobe better), I'd probably choose ejya. Just worth considering imo
로고스 비르투오사 같이 써줄수있나요.?
에이야 범부됬네요
이제 에이야는 그냥 딜뻥 부속품....
Eyja for multi mob
Wish the braindead muh powercreep would end.
I still use SA more than Mlynar and for sure I'll be using Eyja more than Logos as well. That's how it will end for me, and not just for me.
2스는 왜쓰는거지??
Finally, logos to dethrone effy as the greatest caster
Reed alt
Eyja’s strength is her range. Damage is just a bonus
😂
얘는 오퍼 비교로 욕쳐먹고 또 비교영상 쳐올리네
Is the game getting easier?
I dont remember the last time I found a stage challenging and I just roll out with a trust farm team 99% of the time. So yes. The game has become extremely easy. You can purposefully handicap yourself but you can do that in any game.
I've gotten to the point where I have to try for insane things to still feel entertained like going into challenge content with shifter squads, no ground units, etc.
Nah, if HG decidd to release an argueably strong Operator, thats mean they going to increase the dificulties of future events.
He is too dependent on module like it was part of his original kit. Makes no sense to me, originally modules job to baff OG operator and make them viable, hg shouldn't prenerf new operators for module sake..... ow get it, we need to farm that shitty sss
He still does more damage than eyja even without his module. And crying about needing to farm to use a module is weird bc there are many other ops who actually rely on them
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