I'm not sure if Sumiya's Invoker is the strongest anymore. I still think refresher is viable with hex. You just have to combo with cold snap, double sunstrike, double meteor, into deafening blast. It does around 4k damage even against a 6 slotted am, jugg, lifestealer.
As an avid Invoker player I will sum this up for you... this patch invoker is neither strong in early nor late game he sucks at laning (which makes it hard to tempo fast) he is just "okay" in mid game where enemies are still farming bkb he is utterly unplayable on late game if enemies are 50/50 against you (so you really have to win the mid game, on which you are just "okay" in this patch) 4k damage is not a lot at all, back then you can easily do a combo for around 6k++ damage because invoker had chaos meteor damage talent late game invoker at most can kill squishy pos 1 with high level of difficulty otherwise, late game invoker can just focus on killing supports, which is still very tough to do even witch doctor support with a simple aghanim and bkb can deal tons of aoe damage warlock with 5 clicks of button can do massive AOE control with high damage invoker is nowhere near that level in comparison, and invoker is supposedly a "carry" lol The only thing that makes invoker make sense in this patch would be having Aghanim Scepter or high level talent to also reduce cooldown of all spells by 30%-40% (remember when wex gives spell cooldown reduction on recent patch? I still don't know to this day why they decided to remove it with current state of invoker) Invoker's spells have ultimate like cooldown, and having basic ability damage/effect 🤣 (or of course add the damage, leave the cooldown as it is) Icefrog really overestimated Invoker's power because he's simply a universal hero right now Invoker is realy really unusable compared to any other midlaner
Your voker gameplay is so weak in comparison to your older ones. Maybe because you don't play the hero as often as before. We can tell your voker is quite rusty
what do u mean, he cant play too good cuz he have rank 500 asia and theres a lot of pro players, and in this video he was playing physical invoker not magical, so his damage is from his damage from hand not abilities
@xczeli2272 look at his tornado to sunstrike timing. See how he would switch abilities into spells that are still on cooldown. His other videos shows him missing his icewalls where he normally would not. Just because you would play physical build invoker doesnt mean your basics in using spells would be affected. Things like that are build from muscle memory which he clearly shows he is lacking. Have you seen him play before? You can clearly see him being off his game
I really Wonder if Sumiya Could Play at Eu west/east 3k rank: useless supprts not buying wards/dusts,0 dewarding,0 support items offlane feeding non-stop flaming mid for no gank at min 6 no tank hero,venomancer as pos3 and non-tank heroes as pos 3 carry can't last hit,not carrying a tp to join,25min afk farm for 2 items no tps to def ganks and of course omega toxic behaviour,intentional feed and stuff it is easy to play at winning teams you know. I'm not insulting i am a huge fan of sumiya for a long time but its nearly impossible to carry games as invoker in recent patches,or even without party group.I Learnt a lot from sumiya and i do fine as mider but can't handle my teammates
The god of invoker is back
What is HaiLong's hero in first game?
sumiya的卡尔真的赏心悦目哈哈，上次看你的视频还有队友唱衰说“卡尔这么弱还玩啊”正说明你打得好啊👌。 上次看你玩伐木机还要提醒自己队友的卡尔放磁暴…… 每次卡尔放技能的时机把握的非常好 百看不厌 团战魔术师 good job 🎉
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Zero hour gang
The game is carrying on... That's why u heralds don't understand why is sumiya playing like that... 😂
I'm not sure if Sumiya's Invoker is the strongest anymore. I still think refresher is viable with hex. You just have to combo with cold snap, double sunstrike, double meteor, into deafening blast. It does around 4k damage even against a 6 slotted am, jugg, lifestealer.
too many counter for invoker and its hard to fast build invoker.
1 glimmer or forcestaff that combo is dead
As an avid Invoker player I will sum this up for you...
this patch invoker is neither strong in early nor late game
he sucks at laning (which makes it hard to tempo fast)
he is just "okay" in mid game where enemies are still farming bkb
he is utterly unplayable on late game if enemies are 50/50 against you
(so you really have to win the mid game, on which you are just "okay" in this patch)
4k damage is not a lot at all, back then you can easily do a combo for around 6k++ damage because invoker had chaos meteor damage talent
late game invoker at most can kill squishy pos 1 with high level of difficulty
otherwise, late game invoker can just focus on killing supports, which is still very tough to do
even witch doctor support with a simple aghanim and bkb can deal tons of aoe damage
warlock with 5 clicks of button can do massive AOE control with high damage
invoker is nowhere near that level in comparison, and invoker is supposedly a "carry" lol
The only thing that makes invoker make sense in this patch would be having Aghanim Scepter or high level talent to also reduce cooldown of all spells by 30%-40%
(remember when wex gives spell cooldown reduction on recent patch? I still don't know to this day why they decided to remove it with current state of invoker)
Invoker's spells have ultimate like cooldown, and having basic ability damage/effect 🤣
(or of course add the damage, leave the cooldown as it is)
Icefrog really overestimated Invoker's power because he's simply a universal hero
right now Invoker is realy really unusable compared to any other midlaner
forget about the combo. go for right click invoker -_- that shit is strong
@@MasAskara u still have cd reduction on wex orb
GG
1st game was such a urn game. Why skip urn
Mid difference* meaning mid gap.
Gero zour hang
Your voker gameplay is so weak in comparison to your older ones. Maybe because you don't play the hero as often as before. We can tell your voker is quite rusty
what do u mean, he cant play too good cuz he have rank 500 asia and theres a lot of pro players, and in this video he was playing physical invoker not magical, so his damage is from
his damage from hand not abilities
@xczeli2272 look at his tornado to sunstrike timing. See how he would switch abilities into spells that are still on cooldown. His other videos shows him missing his icewalls where he normally would not.
Just because you would play physical build invoker doesnt mean your basics in using spells would be affected. Things like that are build from muscle memory which he clearly shows he is lacking. Have you seen him play before? You can clearly see him being off his game
Reuse old video
Early tornado sunstrike build better
lmao first
I really Wonder if Sumiya Could Play at Eu west/east 3k rank:
useless supprts not buying wards/dusts,0 dewarding,0 support items
offlane feeding non-stop flaming mid for no gank at min 6
no tank hero,venomancer as pos3 and non-tank heroes as pos 3
carry can't last hit,not carrying a tp to join,25min afk farm for 2 items
no tps to def ganks
and of course omega toxic behaviour,intentional feed and stuff
it is easy to play at winning teams you know.
I'm not insulting i am a huge fan of sumiya for a long time but its nearly impossible to carry games as invoker in recent patches,or even without party group.I Learnt a lot from sumiya and i do fine as mider but can't handle my teammates
Bla bla bla
STOP KOFFİNG OMG DİSCUSSİNG 🤮🤮🤮