Why did East German Soldiers Goose Step at a WAR Memorial?
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2023
- This is a short history video on why East German soldiers goose stepped at a war memorial, which was dedicated to the people who lost their lives from "Fascism and Militarism."
A Prussian style military ritual complete with German soldiers goose stepping in front a war memorial dedicated to the countless people who perished as a result of militarism. Is this the best example of irony?
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The changing of the guard and the full ceremony as well, was one of the biggest tourist attractions in the GDR.
Absolutely! Even British musician David Bowie visited the Neue Wache!
Where there's goose steps, there's no democracy. I live in Brazil. @@MaximusandHistory
@@daltonagre That's just simply not true!
In NATO countries like Sweden and Bulgaria they still use the German goose step!
for the huge tourism
Huge tourism meant tourist spending western currency. When I went to the GDR you had to pay a small fee to cross the border. You could pay with any currency except for the East German Mark
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"Goose-stepping" is a common marching movement in many militaries throughout the world.
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Excellent documentary and video comrade! Continue with the good job and thank you for your dedication and excellency
Thank you for the kind comment! I hope you enjoyed the video!
The DDR's NVA "inherited" the traditions and history of the Prussian Army. Plain and simple.
This is so cool! I really enjoyed it and really hope to see more videos like this! I love your content!
Thank you for your kind words! I definitely want to start producing more narrated history videos, similar to Mark Felton's content.
@@MaximusandHistory You're welcome! I'm really looking forward to that! :)
The NVA lacked of some prussian marching music, for instance it would have been perfect if they had played the traditional prussian präsentiernmarsch for the troops inspection.
Agreed. I think they had their own NVA präsentiermarsch.
Though, NVA central band had some prussian marches in their repertoire, like Koeniggraetzermarsch
Yes, unfortunately the repertoire of the NVA was very limited and strict, and mostly consisted of newer compositions!
Later on they did. Preussens Gloria, for example.
they were anti prussian but marching with goose steps in wehrmacht unifor, helmetand saber. with prussian marches it would be even more disgusting for a "socialistic" state and army.
@@keinkein510 say that to the red army, they inherited white army tradition, ranks, marching drill altogether in 1944.
Thank you for the great video. Love to study something missing from contemporary Germany.
Da werden Erinnerungen wach! ❤
thanks for the information
I hope you enjoyed the video!
Good explanation! Even the GDR was a Regime it understood the difference between military prussian tradition and the political interpretation about the Goostep. It´s not political to interpret it´s just a type of marching what the Wehrmacht didn´t invent... they took it from the Reichswehr and the Reichswehr from the Kaiserreich.
Absolutely! Even the uniforms worn by the Bundeswehr and the NVA are based on the Wehrmacht tunics, which in turn were directly carried over from the Reichswehr.
In reality, the Nazis barely invented anything new apart from the SA/SS Uniforms.
De BW is een flauw afgietsel van de Pruisische traditie, de NVA was een echt pruisisch leger. Toch is deze traditie niet 100% verloren, die hebben het Chileense leger nog in ere gehouden dank zij de vele Duitse militaite en politieke vluchtelingen na de 2de wereldoorlog.
That is complete bullshit
The NVA the Last True German Army.
...träum weiter kleiner Konsomolz...von ein paar Äußerlichkeiten abgesehen war an der NVA absolut nichts "deutsch": die ganze organisatorische Struktur, der Aufbau und das innere Gefüge, die Befehlsstrukturen etc. waren 100% sowjetisch. Und z.B. die NVA-Luftwaffe war organischer Teil der Luftstreitkräfte der Westgruppe der Sowjetischen Steitkräfte und unterstand schon in Friedenszeiten ausschließlich sowjetischem Befehl....
„Stechschritt“ - Habe ich noch gesehen, als Tourist.
Probably the one who calls it a "goose step" has never introduced geese!😂
in german its called Stechschritt, which is exact what it is
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Where did you get the footage from? Is there anywhere you can buy the footage of the parades?
Is this the same building where the Wehrmacht also made the changing of the guard?
Yes
Can you do more videos like this style
Absolutely! I plan on making a video in the future where I cover the entire history of the Neue Wache!
@@MaximusandHistory good good
Been to Neue Wache many times.
That's awesome! I look forward to hopefully visiting sometime in the future!
Do Germans view NVA Neue Wache as German today? Or do they view it more of a Communist re-invention of the old tradition?
AFAIK, there's been no Neue Wache since 1990.
Also, at least visually and aesthetically NVA looked more German than BW. I can't say anything about their combat capability - it's never been put to test. Neither BW nor NVA claimed to be descendants of the Wehrmacht - the last truly combat capable German army.
NB. In modern day Russia many people interested in East German military share a sense of guilt for "betraying" East Germany and NVA as USSR's most loyal ally (which I personally doubt). You can read their comments.
...the Neue Wache is still the offical German war memorial for the victims of the 1. and 2. WW and the victims of dictatorship. At special holidays and when state visitors come there to show their respect, military ceremonies are held with the Wachbatallion der Bundeswehr (Guards batallion of the German armed forces)....
@@heimdalshorn Thanks.
I just realized I was confusing the memorial with the change of guards ceremony (Neue Wache literally means New Guard, if I understand it correctly).
it looked more wehrmacht and nazi, less german, this tradition ist dead and burried.
ruclips.net/video/vyHoiOHQB5k/видео.htmlsi=ntQeZvYKiS3iuIvc
Simply because it goes way back several hundred years
The fact is the russians/soviet uninon encouraged eastern german army to follow up more to the prussian military tradition than the bundeswehr in the western federal republic of germany
What is the name of the March at 3:20?
Found it, it is Parademarsch der NVA Nr. 1
they played it sometimes about an hour, always the same on and on @@petershen6924
Another reason is soviet honor guards goose stepped too.
its not the same
Did not realize last segment march hymm was soviet would of thought that was German for sure!
The march at 1:03 is Russian and the march at 2:38 is East German ("Parademarsch der NVA Nr. 1")
Good Lord - what happened to my posting that I placed this morning? It was a long reply with some facts and tidbits and it some how magically disappeared? Did it offend somebody?
You didn't post anything. If you did, it might have been automatically shadow banned by RUclips's comment system for what ever reason. I have had my comments disappear before too! What exactly did you write down?
I just added a few historical comparisons and differences between the Prussian manual of arms and what the DDR did, and what the Bundeswehr Wach Bataillon is doing now. Perhaps that's what happened, although I have no clue as to why You Tube would do that. Oh well.....
This type of goose step was not a Prussian tradition, it is a Soviet (and nowadays Russian) style - Prussian goose step looks different....
Sorry, but this is not true. This goose step is Prussian and not "Soviet" as you claim.
I have the original NVA drill manual from 1957 in my possession. The manual is an updated version of the 1906 Prussian drill manual with only some Soviet elements. The goose step is directly based on the Prussian model.
First and foremost, in Russian, we officially call the goose step "Строевой шаг" (Lit. "Drill Step") and it was directly borrowed from Prussia. However, it is only used for training and drill exercises, and was never used on parade! The only other exception for using this step is when a military unit carries out the regimental banner during a ceremony, that's it.
The formal marching step of the Soviet and later Russian Army is called "Походный шаг" (Lit. Marching Step). The "Marching Step" is the one you see on Russian military parades, and it's not considered goose stepping because the height of the step is too low to be classified as such. (It's less than 15cm off the ground).
Lastly, the Russian Drill Step is much slower than the German one. The NVA continued to use the Prussian tempo of 114 steps per minute, while Russian drill regulations establish the Drill Step (Goose Step) at 75 steps per minute, which is significantly slower than the one used by the NVA.
@@MaximusandHistory ...sorry, you are wrong. The original Prussian "goose step" (aka "Stechschritt") is not in the way as practised by the NVA. It was more like the aktuell Russian style parade step. The goose step of the 5 changing guards in your video is exately the Soviet/Russian Drill step-model (to an almost 90 degree angel), there was nothing similar in any German military before. The Prussians did not lift the leg as far as the NVA did. I have seen the NVA parading many times, also "life", and I know the manuals as well and I know tons of historical photos and historical films showing Prussians on parade and at ceremonies. The parade step (not the "drill step" - this was Soviet-style) of the NVA was in the same tempo as the Prussians, but with much higher legs. If you want to make a comparison, then the NVA parade step is more "Wehrmacht-Style" then "Prussian-Style" - and yes, there is a significant difference.....
@@heimdalshorn The cognitive dissonance is kicking in! :D
Also, why do you keep liking your own comment? LOL.
Again, this is not true! You have no idea what you're talking about. The 90 degree angle goose step is unofficially "stechschritt" and was used by the Wehrmacht!
If you open the drill regulations of the Wehrmacht, the Stechschritt is actually called the "Parademarsch" and is executed at a 90 degree angle!
There are two different types of goose step:
Paradeschritt / Exerziermarsch (Parade Step) = 45 degree angle
Stechschritt / Parademarsch (Piercing Step) = 90 degree angle
The Stechschritt / Parademarsch is only used at the changing of the guard, which is correctly done by the NVA!
Look here: 2.bp.blogspot.com/-IFhP1kEHnpI/UmrXgo07OCI/AAAAAAAAALw/8I1YWAnLc2c/s1600/tumblr_m637wxSJip1rxux3lo1_1280.jpg
@@MaximusandHistoryStechschritt was never used by the Prussians and you put a link to the photo of Wermacht (Luftwaffe) which butchered Prussian tradition. Bundeswehr still continues the tradition with small changes so that it doesn't hurt the soldiers like slowing down the drill.
The traditions that Bundeswehr has is Prussian just like Reichsheer. NVA doesn't have Prussian tradition it is mostly Russian like the hand swinging and the diffrence between the Russian and the NVA changing of the guard is small.
nope
It can’t be good for your knees.
I'd say any leg joint!
Where did the WW1 soilder go after it was replaced?
I am sorry, I don't quite understand the question.
@MaximusandHistory Where did the WWI burial go after it was replaced with the post war monument?
@@luxann292 Thank you for your response.
There was never any buried remains inside the Neue Wache for WWI. Instead, the interior housed a granite block with a laurel wreath on top of it.
It was not until 1969, when the East German leadership built a new monument inside the Neue Wache which contained the remains of an unknown soldier and a unknown concentration camp victim.
What happend to the ww2 video?
I took it down because it was attracting some extremists who were posting not the best of comments.
@MaximusandHistory Ah makes sense. Sucks that people like that are around. Im a WW2 German reenactor and enjoy history!
Goose-stepping has NOTHING to do with fascism. The whole Soviet memorial is preposterous-they were fascists themselves, and just as bad, if not worse, than the Nazis.
weil sie es konnten...
Это эталон строевого шага почетного караула, советские чуть чуть не дотягивали, а расиянские вообще ниже нижнего.
Российский строевой шаг почётного караула больше похож на цирк, а не на что-то уместное в мемориальных целях.
@@wolfmonk9d Вы правы, караул с разводящим на главной площади страны, под звон курантов идущие к мавзолею, печатая шаг по гранитным плитам- выглядит монументально. А не возня в Александровском саду.
Red Brown politics
The Neue Wache was turned into a War Memorial in 1931 to honor of the victims of WW1. This was well over 2 years before the Nazis took power, so it has nothing to do with the Fascism!
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this silly state was called the "Tätära"!
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The problem with the tone of your video is that you think there is something wrong with German military traditions, just because we lost the war. There is not. Our Traditions are fine, and we are a good and decent people. You cannot argue with the precision, impressiveness, supremacy of our marching style. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it
That last real German soldiers.
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