Long waited and long anticipated, the Ash Crimson saga lore video is finally here! Covering King of Fighters 2003, 11, and 13, learn the story of the anti-hero Ash Crimson and every stunt he's pulled ot make everyone so angry at him! This video was long delayed but in the end it makes for a better video because now I can give you a happy ending to everything, rather than the dark depressing ending thanks to KoF XV and Ash's return. If you could spare a like for the video it would be appreciated big time!
The thing wish Ash is that I remember everyone just hating his guts. No one liked Ash, and as an outsider to the KoF franchise seeing the 180 after the big reveal as to why he was acting a certain was genuinely so cool to see. Loved the breakdown.
Ash was like the most hated heel in the business for the entire saga, until at the very end out of nowhere he turned babyface. Then you learned he was a face all along and his heel act was just a ruse to foil the actual heels. A true tweener in FGC history.
Glad Ash is getting more openly positive reception these days, since I always thought his design was as good as Iori "whoever created this character is a genius" Yagami. From personality to aesthetics to battle mechanics, Ash is designed to troll you on every level and it makes him a great bit of spice to the cast flavoring.
The thing nobody seems to ever mention is, there's a nasty caveat to Ash being back. Since Ash erased himself from existence by ensuring Saiki could never go back to the past and erasing HIM from existence, if Ash is now back, that means Saiki, his ancestor must ALSO be back. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense, since Ash literally can't exist without Saiki existing too. That'd just create a whole other time paradox that somehow sustains itself despite being impossible, which would undoubtedly screw everything up in many ways. Saiki is either back in his own time ready to try the gate thing again, or he's back in the present ready to try to awaken Orochi again. Only thing is, this time if Those From The Past want to start anything, they'll run into direct opposition from the Hakkeshu, who are ALSO back now. Which honestly would be awesome to see.
Whew happy that's finally complete! Rugal season is right around the corner for KoF so expect that to be the next few days of content on the channel. After that... who knows!? im tired right now lol
Between you and Thorig Arcade, these saga reviews are so refreshing and takes the "SNK BOSS RAGE" out of the experience and allows you to enjoy the story that's unfolded. Playing it game to game, you can get lost and confused. But having it all presented like this is a godsend. THANK YOU ROOFLEMONGER! ❤
I might've said this before in the Ash Trailer Breakdown and Lore video, but I thought it was fascinating seeing the entirety of Ash's master plan! KOF 13's ending hits pretty deep, but for better or worse that sad ending turns upside down after Verse brought the dead back to life in 14, and now Ash is buddy-buddy with his childhood friend and his former teammates!
A little note: It apparently Kukri was the one to help remember Betty,Lon,Shen and maybe Oswald about Ash, and they're the only ones since he's treated by Bellamy as a newcomer and Chizuru is concerned about not knowing him despite having the feeling of already know him. So they're using kukri's clan and story as a plot device to make sense why Ash is here.
I was waiting for this. I know you said that you put a lot of work for very little return for these lore videos, but they are highly appreciated for those of us that are watching them.
yeah return wise I could slap something random together about strive or dbfz or whatever and it would 100% do better view wise, and take 1/20th the effort. But I promised, so its finally here.
It still baffles me we didn't get a team from Those from the Past, concidering their presence throught the story of the games... Botan, Shroom, Rimello...
The saga my 1st KoF game (XIII) resided in. In retrospect, I feel the Ash Saga had one of the best starts lore wise compared to the other sagas with '03. We had the winners of the KoF not being the main protagonists but instead Ikari Warriors bringing them into the spotlight again, the bringing back of the Sacred Treasures team and threat of Orochi and Team K' beating Mukai keeping the NESTS Saga protagonists relevant, seeing the full power of Chizuru under the strings of Botan. The initial intrigue of Those from the Past, creation of Adelheid and Rose. Mystery of who attacked Takuma etc. But after that it unfortunately started to lose its way imo and whilst the team compositions, the ending and revelation was effective the rest left me in favour of the last 2 sagas over this one imo. I will say though with Shun'ei' creation, whilst I tolerated Ash before I appreciate him a lot more.
Fan since KOF 99' here, and i feel your commentary a lot, i loved when non-main characters are given the spotlight or at least given a task for the current game. I LOVED the Krohnen/K' feud and have the best endings of XV despite not being the focus of the saga, sadly the rest of the non-main teams suffered of irrelevancy as well, Terry needed to be on the Hero team spotlight instead of Benimaru, Terry was the obvious choice to partner Shun Ei' since the connectios with Tung, which i can't believe he went: "Should i call my best ex-disciple which defeated another powerful ex-disciple of mine, which is respected by most fighters and would jump right in no questions? Nah, let's call someone who i barely know just because of a random martial art and put someone who i don't even know to guide Shun E' and Meitenkun" PS: We need the FF team with Andy or Mai on the lead with Joe.
@@ppprime98K KoF XV storywise felt very lack luster in general imo. From how irrelevant Team Orochi and Ash were to the plot when they came back, team Sacred Treasures having their least plot relevant story ever in a KoF game, I'd argue K' as well having hist story just be finding Kula who was only mad about the amusement Park is a far cry from his plots since '03. The one thing I'll give it though is the depiction of the characters was spot in and the development of Krohnen/K9999 was great. As for the protagonist team, I feel Tung Fu Rue should've returned with them but having Benimaru wasn't the worst choice imo considering his well established status of winning KoF tournaments but I agree that he doesn't have the experience of helping someone keep their power controlled. Only reasons it wouldn't be Terry are for 1, he doesn't have that experience either and 2, as they said they don't want to progress the AoF or FF teamsin KoF unless said characters get developed in their own franchise which sadly means they'll probably never win the title in canon.
As someone who knew almost nothing about the KOF lore before you started your series, I am genuinely having a blast learning about it. I didn't even realize that the vid was almost an hour until I reached the end lol.
Thnks for the recap of this saga, it is my favorite and I was so exited to you bring it to your channel Mr. Roof PD: I love so much the lore of Ash, and I love even more Elizabeth and her determination to find Ash and stop him in any cost. PD: as the way I understand the things, is not like anything happen before Ash disappear. I think everybody know someone do all Ash's actions, but no one know who's that person.
You said that K' and his team do nothing after 2003, but that's not exactly true - from what I remember from playing K' team in XIII story mode they do some investigating about Those from the past in some ruins on distant desert-looking locale and actually end up bringing Heidern some valuable intel. "This ain't much, but it's honest work" xD
Huh, Ash is a LOT different then I thought he'd be, I always assumed he was just a really wacky villain or something not an anti-hero, when I get my hands on KoF15 at some point I'll definitely have to give Ash a try as this breakdown has easily made him a favorite for me
OMG @rooflemonger you are a saint. Thank you! I don't know why but KOF lore is a bit difficult to follow but thanks to you I can now and I love it. Does KOF have the most and deepest lore of all fighting games?
KoF XIV is a disgrace by erasing the impact of the past sagas. Hey, only 870 likes so far??? What gives? This video is great! Very funny and greatly informative. Thanks for making and posting it!
Not the Greatest Saga ever Written in my personal Opinion, but it's Original Characters (Shen Woo, Duo Lon, Adelheid and Oswald) from the Ash Saga were very Interesting for it's Time.
Hello Jose. The ending of this video pretty much explain why I hate the Verse Saga. There is never any consequences in this series anymore. I HATE how KoF XIV and XV ruined the bittersweet ending of XIII, bringing back Ash and many KOF villains from the dead. SNK doesn't care about the lore anymore 😞
Don't you like when the villains are killed off by the power of script? 😆 Ash is my least favorite protagonist. I don't like his design, gameplay and his annoying personality. He is an annoying jerk. He almost ruined everything at the end, only to Elisabeth to fix Ash's mess. Another thing I don't like about this saga is how almost all the new male characters have a very feminine design. Shion being the worst case. But that's just my personal opinion. Finally, the whole Kensou's Dragon Spirit and Ron with the Hizoku plot was forgotten again
Me encantó esa saga, sobre todo el personaje de Ash Crimson qué es un anti héroe, al principio le plantan como villano, pero al final te das cuenta que el planeó todo para proteger al mundo, incluso a costa de su propia existencia. 💚 Ash Crimson es genial.
I'm gonna be a hundred percent honest, how snk handled Ash's crossdressing and quite possibly transgender personality is how you should do it in my opinion. no one makes a big deal about it, no one ever tries to bring it up or discriminate against it, and the whole plot doesn't revolve around that idea. media should honestly look at this for inspiration for how to handle the sort of thing. making it a whole character trait or make a big deal about it it makes it incredibly unrealistic and downright more annoying than anything. this in my opinion is the best way to realistically bring the concept into a story and make it cool, instead of feeling like propoganda or "spreading the message" those outside of that bubble wouldn't care about
Ash's femininity is a large part of why he was despised back in the day. It wasn't a factor in the games but the players hated him for it because that's just how things were back then. These days people are a lot more accepting thankfully.
42:09-42:13 "This is videogames baby, There is never any consequences for our actions" You pretty much said the reason why *I HATE* how Verse brought back all dead characters, including Ash from the dead. Okay he was erased but shut up! SNK doesn't care about the lore anymore so why do I need to care. *sigh* Despite all the problems the bittersweet finale of KOF XIII was one of my favorites and then KOF XIV and XV ruined. I didn't like how Ash got a happy ending. And not only because I don't like thst jerk but also because everyone likes Ash now! Yeah! Let's forgive him! Let's forgive the dude who almost ruined everything at the end of XIII 😑 And that's why KOF XV is going to be my last KOF game in the entire series
I have been trying to find out about top players of this game and KOF's competitive history. It feels like it's easy to find that for games like SF, MK and Tekken, but not this game. I've heard of Xaohi and Reynald, but that's about it. Even Tokido has competed in KOF, but people only ever focus on SF for him.
Well, though ash has a bad personality but at the end of xiii he sacrificed to Elisabeth and his friends. In kof xv ash have a little bit improved temper. He was also had a change of temper in his end. But the verse saga changed it. I know why someone don't like this saga. Some character looks feminim But it's doesnt make bad story. .I didn't force you to like it
36:12 Gaia doesnt hate us hahahah Saiki and Orochi are a representation about something that already exist in the nature, that thing is the balance, Orochi and Saiki are the balance between living beings and their environment but they aren't Gaia, Gaia love us becus we are nature that is why Ancient hermits from Africa were able to travel through the time-space and meet Otoma=Raga another representation of something that already exist The multiverse balance
Gaia made orochi with the absolute intent of wiping out the human race. Gaia does not like humanity in the KoF universe and all its followers are explicit enemies of humanity.
@@rooflemonger No, Gaia is the mother earth so she is everything that exists (time, space, multiverse, forces, beings, etc), Orochi is mentioned as "The beast of antiquity" and He was created by Gaia from ancient times even more that humanity, He was created to seek a balance between the planet and the beings, the reason why Orochi is knowed as "The will of Gaia" is cus he has the absolute power and he is "The beloved of Gaia" but this doesn't mean that Gaia hates humanity, Orochi wants a balance between humans and the planet but by our own nature we need to destroy our environment and some of us generate an imbalance, Orochi does not hate all humans and does not necessarily want to wipe humanity, this is confirmed by the dialogue between Saiki and Mature, speaking of Saiki, he was created by Gaia with the same intention, to seek a balance between the planet and the beings that live on it, but He was never interested in that and always sought his own benefit and ideology, kof story itself says that Saiki and his clan were worshiped as Gods by the humans of ancient Europe and then these humans betrayed him, Saiki does hate humans but not because these generate an imbalance, he hates them because he thinks that humans are inferior beings and their existence is "worse than garbage", Gaia's will is order and disorder, a balance and an imbalance that coexist, if Gaia hated the humans, kof xv story would not say that the hermits of Africa had met Otoma since the story says that they could travel through space-time because they were one with nature
The Ash saga is like the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy for me. The main issue I have with this saga is how it feels like the Orochi Saga 2.0. Pure fanservice. Let's going to make a story about people who want to wake up Orochi, again. Using Gaea's Will for the main big boss, again. Making a new character who fights like Rugal. Chizuru as the subboss. Iori going berserk and attacking his teammates, again. Bringing back Vice and Mature, who were canonically dead. Using the teams from the Orochi Saga for KOF XIII.
@@rooflemonger Pretty much. And I hate that. That's why I love about the NESTS Saga, it was its own thing and the characters introduced there are much better than the characters of the other saga. I am so tired of Orochi and the Hakkeshu. Sadly, KOF wants to be very safe for their stories now. And the actual saga is easily the most dissapointing. Pure fanservice to bring back dead characters. Sorry for sounding a bit angry I just hate the actual lore of KOF I much prefer the old canon when death had consequences.
personally, I think this Saga is the work arc. Bad Story, Bad Main lead, too many dropped plot lines( EX: Ron and Kyo sacred treasure that Ash wanted). The only redeeming quality are new KOF characters and KOF 13.
lots of people say they ruined their story by bringing ash back, but i am glad they did, i was really sad for that, i really wanted a happy ending for them
Unfortunately there's a lot less to go on there. 14/15 is the end of the saga, there is no trilogy. Basically only exists to bring the dead characters back to life
I love and hate KOF XIII Love it because of the awesome sprites, gameplay, stages and music. Hate it because of the roster, it is one of my least favorites in the whole series. My main issue is how it felt like the Orochi Saga all over again 😑 I missed the awesome roster of KOF XI, Duck King, Adelheid, Oswald, Momoko, Malin, Gai, Silber, Gato, Jenet, etc. And the biggest reason why I am mad about KOF XII and XII is because those games killed the Maximum Impact series. SNK Playmore spend many hours and money in the developent of those games. They had to cancel many upcoming projects like KOF Maximum Impact 3, KOF MI Regulation A 2 and KOF MI 360 (for XBOX 360) games that SNK announced in public events and were in development. Many people think the MI series was a failure but in reality, the MI games sold very well in all the world. And that's...makes me sad 😢😭
I hate when characters are brought back. Should be the next topic of your videos. Do you bring back old characters or create new ones. Why kill off a good character in the first place???
Ash was very much hated at the time which is why they weren't scared to kill him off. Time heals all wounds though and a fondness was built for him which is why he was brought back.
The chinese spear doesn't use feathers. it's horse hair and the reason for that is actually very sinister. also that's not a rope dart. it's a chinese whip.
One of the most fun versions of Kyo? Nah, he's the boring one. NESTS Kyo is where it's at =P Also caught myself thinking "XIII one of the best what now? That game is kinda trash, actually" and slowly realising that like 90% of this opinion is: "Vice is back but I really don't like this version of her"
Don't you like when the villains are killed off by the power of script? 😆 Ash is my least favorite protagonist. I don't like his design, gameplay and his annoying personality. He is an annoying jerk. He almost ruined everything at the end, only to Elisabeth to fix Ash's mess. Another thing I don't like about this saga is how almost all the new male characters have a very feminine design. Shion being the worst case. But that's just my personal opinion. Finally, the whole Kensou's Dragon Spirit and Ron with the Hizoku plot was forgotten again
Long waited and long anticipated, the Ash Crimson saga lore video is finally here! Covering King of Fighters 2003, 11, and 13, learn the story of the anti-hero Ash Crimson and every stunt he's pulled ot make everyone so angry at him! This video was long delayed but in the end it makes for a better video because now I can give you a happy ending to everything, rather than the dark depressing ending thanks to KoF XV and Ash's return. If you could spare a like for the video it would be appreciated big time!
Thank you for this video. Will you be doing lore for other KoF spin-off games, like the EX games and Maximum Impact?
@@vijeomasher9154 naw only the mainline series. I have never even played any of hte maximum impact games
@@rooflemonger count your blessings you didn't. the plot and characters there were even more nonsensical
Hey, sorry to bring this up, but Saiki is Ash's Ancestor, Ash is the Descendant.
The thing wish Ash is that I remember everyone just hating his guts. No one liked Ash, and as an outsider to the KoF franchise seeing the 180 after the big reveal as to why he was acting a certain was genuinely so cool to see. Loved the breakdown.
Ash was like the most hated heel in the business for the entire saga, until at the very end out of nowhere he turned babyface. Then you learned he was a face all along and his heel act was just a ruse to foil the actual heels. A true tweener in FGC history.
Glad Ash is getting more openly positive reception these days, since I always thought his design was as good as Iori "whoever created this character is a genius" Yagami. From personality to aesthetics to battle mechanics, Ash is designed to troll you on every level and it makes him a great bit of spice to the cast flavoring.
The thing nobody seems to ever mention is, there's a nasty caveat to Ash being back. Since Ash erased himself from existence by ensuring Saiki could never go back to the past and erasing HIM from existence, if Ash is now back, that means Saiki, his ancestor must ALSO be back. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense, since Ash literally can't exist without Saiki existing too. That'd just create a whole other time paradox that somehow sustains itself despite being impossible, which would undoubtedly screw everything up in many ways. Saiki is either back in his own time ready to try the gate thing again, or he's back in the present ready to try to awaken Orochi again.
Only thing is, this time if Those From The Past want to start anything, they'll run into direct opposition from the Hakkeshu, who are ALSO back now. Which honestly would be awesome to see.
Benimaru is just a born winner that’s why he’s always on the winning team
Whew happy that's finally complete! Rugal season is right around the corner for KoF so expect that to be the next few days of content on the channel. After that... who knows!? im tired right now lol
Here's your crown King...of fighters 👑
The biggest irony is how Ash actually ensured his best case scenario by messing up his plan and accidentally summoning an extradimensional monster
Femboy Lore, excellent.
Also I'm a sucker for happy endings the final screen of Team Ash's ending in XV makes me tear up.
Between you and Thorig Arcade, these saga reviews are so refreshing and takes the "SNK BOSS RAGE" out of the experience and allows you to enjoy the story that's unfolded. Playing it game to game, you can get lost and confused. But having it all presented like this is a godsend. THANK YOU ROOFLEMONGER! ❤
Happy to help!
I want Shion and Mukai to be playable in KoF 15. Those two were my highlight in this saga.
I'd be curious to see Botan and Shroom gameplay, concidering their prevalence in the story.
We will just get team Rugal family at that point
I might've said this before in the Ash Trailer Breakdown and Lore video, but I thought it was fascinating seeing the entirety of Ash's master plan! KOF 13's ending hits pretty deep, but for better or worse that sad ending turns upside down after Verse brought the dead back to life in 14, and now Ash is buddy-buddy with his childhood friend and his former teammates!
A little note: It apparently Kukri was the one to help remember Betty,Lon,Shen and maybe Oswald about Ash, and they're the only ones since he's treated by Bellamy as a newcomer and Chizuru is concerned about not knowing him despite having the feeling of already know him. So they're using kukri's clan and story as a plot device to make sense why Ash is here.
I was waiting for this. I know you said that you put a lot of work for very little return for these lore videos, but they are highly appreciated for those of us that are watching them.
yeah return wise I could slap something random together about strive or dbfz or whatever and it would 100% do better view wise, and take 1/20th the effort. But I promised, so its finally here.
@@rooflemonger Thank you.
Absolutely love big recaps like this, can't imagine how much work it took. Would love to see you do it on other fighting game series too!
You sir are a machine. Thank you for this series!
It still baffles me we didn't get a team from Those from the Past, concidering their presence throught the story of the games... Botan, Shroom, Rimello...
What a crazy wild ride. Thanks for summarizing it all up! Rooflemonger is a titan for doin all this hard work.
Very cool stuff man. Thank you for taking the time to make it!
The saga my 1st KoF game (XIII) resided in. In retrospect, I feel the Ash Saga had one of the best starts lore wise compared to the other sagas with '03. We had the winners of the KoF not being the main protagonists but instead Ikari Warriors bringing them into the spotlight again, the bringing back of the Sacred Treasures team and threat of Orochi and Team K' beating Mukai keeping the NESTS Saga protagonists relevant, seeing the full power of Chizuru under the strings of Botan. The initial intrigue of Those from the Past, creation of Adelheid and Rose. Mystery of who attacked Takuma etc.
But after that it unfortunately started to lose its way imo and whilst the team compositions, the ending and revelation was effective the rest left me in favour of the last 2 sagas over this one imo. I will say though with Shun'ei' creation, whilst I tolerated Ash before I appreciate him a lot more.
Fan since KOF 99' here, and i feel your commentary a lot, i loved when non-main characters are given the spotlight or at least given a task for the current game. I LOVED the Krohnen/K' feud and have the best endings of XV despite not being the focus of the saga, sadly the rest of the non-main teams suffered of irrelevancy as well, Terry needed to be on the Hero team spotlight instead of Benimaru, Terry was the obvious choice to partner Shun Ei' since the connectios with Tung, which i can't believe he went: "Should i call my best ex-disciple which defeated another powerful ex-disciple of mine, which is respected by most fighters and would jump right in no questions? Nah, let's call someone who i barely know just because of a random martial art and put someone who i don't even know to guide Shun E' and Meitenkun"
PS: We need the FF team with Andy or Mai on the lead with Joe.
@@ppprime98K KoF XV storywise felt very lack luster in general imo. From how irrelevant Team Orochi and Ash were to the plot when they came back, team Sacred Treasures having their least plot relevant story ever in a KoF game, I'd argue K' as well having hist story just be finding Kula who was only mad about the amusement Park is a far cry from his plots since '03. The one thing I'll give it though is the depiction of the characters was spot in and the development of Krohnen/K9999 was great.
As for the protagonist team, I feel Tung Fu Rue should've returned with them but having Benimaru wasn't the worst choice imo considering his well established status of winning KoF tournaments but I agree that he doesn't have the experience of helping someone keep their power controlled. Only reasons it wouldn't be Terry are for 1, he doesn't have that experience either and 2, as they said they don't want to progress the AoF or FF teamsin KoF unless said characters get developed in their own franchise which sadly means they'll probably never win the title in canon.
As someone who knew almost nothing about the KOF lore before you started your series, I am genuinely having a blast learning about it. I didn't even realize that the vid was almost an hour until I reached the end lol.
Thnks for the recap of this saga, it is my favorite and I was so exited to you bring it to your channel Mr. Roof
PD: I love so much the lore of Ash, and I love even more Elizabeth and her determination to find Ash and stop him in any cost.
PD: as the way I understand the things, is not like anything happen before Ash disappear. I think everybody know someone do all Ash's actions, but no one know who's that person.
You said that K' and his team do nothing after 2003, but that's not exactly true - from what I remember from playing K' team in XIII story mode they do some investigating about Those from the past in some ruins on distant desert-looking locale and actually end up bringing Heidern some valuable intel. "This ain't much, but it's honest work" xD
Finally, some closure. Now, I finally understand the KOF lore. Thank you for your service.
Huh, Ash is a LOT different then I thought he'd be, I always assumed he was just a really wacky villain or something not an anti-hero, when I get my hands on KoF15 at some point I'll definitely have to give Ash a try as this breakdown has easily made him a favorite for me
Hell yeah, I've been waiting for this.
P.S: After watching Shion in action, I would like to see him back in other KOF, he looks fun .
Ash is just a chill guy
MAAAAN! Deep diving into this lore is EVEN better than i first thought. I luv fighting games TOO MUCH! great work as usual crew
I'm a huge fan of these. Ash was the one I was most looking forward to since I only played KoF13 and missed the rest of the games
Can everyone here upvote this ad much as possible so he continues doing more lore content?
Finally been watching all the prev lore vids in prep for this, def gonna keep watching the kof lore vids multiple times
OMG @rooflemonger you are a saint. Thank you! I don't know why but KOF lore is a bit difficult to follow but thanks to you I can now and I love it. Does KOF have the most and deepest lore of all fighting games?
I think it has the deepest overall story. Guilty Gear probably has "the most" story though in terms of the world they built
The ending for KOF XIII was beautifully done...and then XIV came along and said "nah fuck dat"
The ending man...I was like ok... then I was like bruh no way then I'm like you know what why not
KoF XIV is a disgrace by erasing the impact of the past sagas.
Hey, only 870 likes so far??? What gives? This video is great! Very funny and greatly informative. Thanks for making and posting it!
Huzzah it is here!! I was asking for it so I’ll be sure to watch it several times over!
bless you
it's here, hype
Shout out to Lebronamaru.Always a free Agent.
Dude you did a amazing job on this I hope to see more of these kinda stories from you soon enough I was locked in with a smile
Insane how deep the ash saga goes,even altering characters playstyle drastically.......and then we get the shunei saga gosh SNK what went wrong?
There’s sooooo many characters in KOF it’s insane.
Not the Greatest Saga ever Written in my personal Opinion, but it's Original Characters (Shen Woo, Duo Lon, Adelheid and Oswald) from the Ash Saga were very Interesting for it's Time.
Hello Jose.
The ending of this video pretty much explain why I hate the Verse Saga.
There is never any consequences in this series anymore.
I HATE how KoF XIV and XV ruined the bittersweet ending of XIII, bringing back Ash and many KOF villains from the dead.
SNK doesn't care about the lore anymore 😞
Don't you like when the villains are killed off by the power of script? 😆
Ash is my least favorite protagonist.
I don't like his design, gameplay and his annoying personality. He is an annoying jerk.
He almost ruined everything at the end, only to Elisabeth to fix Ash's mess.
Another thing I don't like about this saga is how almost all the new male characters have a very feminine design.
Shion being the worst case.
But that's just my personal opinion.
Finally, the whole Kensou's Dragon Spirit and Ron with the Hizoku plot was forgotten again
I wish they'd bring back Shion, such a cool character
Excellent Video!
Ah finally the Saxophone Over The Moon 44:32 minute extended has released.
Great work! Fan from Kuwait 🇰🇼
Well done!
thank you!
@@rooflemonger the ending breaks my heart
Finally the tales of fem boy and classy lady gent is here. Also isn't funny Ash is technically the strongest protagonist .
He is when he's jazzed up with 2 sacred treasures boosting him, but by himself naw he's not a match for Kyo or K'
And he doesn't put much effort into his attacks, imagine if he went all in with them.
Me encantó esa saga, sobre todo el personaje de Ash Crimson qué es un anti héroe, al principio le plantan como villano, pero al final te das cuenta que el planeó todo para proteger al mundo, incluso a costa de su propia existencia. 💚 Ash Crimson es genial.
ooh lore
revived from existence like with the super dragon balls
Benimaru really is a ring chaser
Those from the past was an amazing addition to the franchise! I only hope they were all playable! Hopefully... in the near future they will be?
I'm gonna be a hundred percent honest, how snk handled Ash's crossdressing and quite possibly transgender personality is how you should do it in my opinion. no one makes a big deal about it, no one ever tries to bring it up or discriminate against it, and the whole plot doesn't revolve around that idea.
media should honestly look at this for inspiration for how to handle the sort of thing. making it a whole character trait or make a big deal about it it makes it incredibly unrealistic and downright more annoying than anything. this in my opinion is the best way to realistically bring the concept into a story and make it cool, instead of feeling like propoganda or "spreading the message" those outside of that bubble wouldn't care about
Ash's femininity is a large part of why he was despised back in the day. It wasn't a factor in the games but the players hated him for it because that's just how things were back then. These days people are a lot more accepting thankfully.
My favorite is stil the Antanov Saga, where he smokes cigars and watches a movie about a puppy.
15:11 69 credits, nice!
saw you adding them 💀
42:09-42:13 "This is videogames baby,
There is never any consequences for our actions"
You pretty much said the reason why *I HATE* how Verse brought back all dead characters, including Ash from the dead.
Okay he was erased but shut up! SNK doesn't care about the lore anymore so why do I need to care.
*sigh* Despite all the problems the bittersweet finale of KOF XIII was one of my favorites and then KOF XIV and XV ruined.
I didn't like how Ash got a happy ending.
And not only because I don't like thst jerk but also because everyone likes Ash now! Yeah! Let's forgive him! Let's forgive the dude who almost ruined everything at the end of XIII 😑
And that's why KOF XV is going to be my last KOF game in the entire series
I have been trying to find out about top players of this game and KOF's competitive history. It feels like it's easy to find that for games like SF, MK and Tekken, but not this game. I've heard of Xaohi and Reynald, but that's about it. Even Tokido has competed in KOF, but people only ever focus on SF for him.
Thank you
Well, though ash has a bad personality but at the end of xiii he sacrificed to Elisabeth and his friends. In kof xv ash have a little bit improved temper. He was also had a change of temper in his end. But the verse saga changed it.
I know why someone don't like this saga. Some character looks feminim
But it's doesnt make bad story.
.I didn't force you to like it
36:12 Gaia doesnt hate us hahahah Saiki and Orochi are a representation about something that already exist in the nature, that thing is the balance, Orochi and Saiki are the balance between living beings and their environment but they aren't Gaia, Gaia love us becus we are nature that is why Ancient hermits from Africa were able to travel through the time-space and meet Otoma=Raga another representation of something that already exist The multiverse balance
Gaia made orochi with the absolute intent of wiping out the human race. Gaia does not like humanity in the KoF universe and all its followers are explicit enemies of humanity.
@@rooflemonger No, Gaia is the mother earth so she is everything that exists (time, space, multiverse, forces, beings, etc), Orochi is mentioned as "The beast of antiquity" and He was created by Gaia from ancient times even more that humanity, He was created to seek a balance between the planet and the beings, the reason why Orochi is knowed as "The will of Gaia" is cus he has the absolute power and he is "The beloved of Gaia" but this doesn't mean that Gaia hates humanity, Orochi wants a balance between humans and the planet but by our own nature we need to destroy our environment and some of us generate an imbalance, Orochi does not hate all humans and does not necessarily want to wipe humanity, this is confirmed by the dialogue between Saiki and Mature, speaking of Saiki, he was created by Gaia with the same intention, to seek a balance between the planet and the beings that live on it, but He was never interested in that and always sought his own benefit and ideology, kof story itself says that Saiki and his clan were worshiped as Gods by the humans of ancient Europe and then these humans betrayed him, Saiki does hate humans but not because these generate an imbalance, he hates them because he thinks that humans are inferior beings and their existence is "worse than garbage", Gaia's will is order and disorder, a balance and an imbalance that coexist, if Gaia hated the humans, kof xv story would not say that the hermits of Africa had met Otoma since the story says that they could travel through space-time because they were one with nature
the femboi, clad in Red
Ash Crimson
honestly an amazing character. so much fun to play in XV
KOF's plotlines keep getting more and more absurd thanks to all the divine being bosses they keep bringing in.
The Ash saga is like the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy for me.
The main issue I have with this saga is how it feels like the Orochi Saga 2.0.
Pure fanservice.
Let's going to make a story about people who want to wake up Orochi, again.
Using Gaea's Will for the main big boss, again.
Making a new character who fights like Rugal.
Chizuru as the subboss.
Iori going berserk and attacking his teammates, again.
Bringing back Vice and Mature, who were canonically dead.
Using the teams from the Orochi Saga for KOF XIII.
cause kof will never move past orochi, simple as that basically.
@@rooflemonger Pretty much.
And I hate that.
That's why I love about the NESTS Saga, it was its own thing and the characters introduced there are much better than the characters of the other saga.
I am so tired of Orochi and the Hakkeshu.
Sadly, KOF wants to be very safe for their stories now.
And the actual saga is easily the most dissapointing.
Pure fanservice to bring back dead characters.
Sorry for sounding a bit angry I just hate the actual lore of KOF
I much prefer the old canon when death had consequences.
personally, I think this Saga is the work arc. Bad Story, Bad Main lead, too many dropped plot lines( EX: Ron and Kyo sacred treasure that Ash wanted). The only redeeming quality are new KOF characters and KOF 13.
lots of people say they ruined their story by bringing ash back, but i am glad they did, i was really sad for that, i really wanted a happy ending for them
More of these pls
Ash is definitely my least favorite KOF protag . Never a fan of stealing characters power type characters. His themes slap though 🤷🏿♂️
I need Botan in KoF XV. Would be nice to have some puppet master fighting
elizabeth needs to bring back that costume
KoF XI's hud is ATROCIOUS. But the sprites are lovely as usual.
I felt like ash could work more as a rival of this saga while Elizabeth is the main character.
I see a sneaky 69 credits there
I would love Adel to come back with either Duo and Shen or Shion and Botan.
Please summarize the story for KOF 14/15 too!
Unfortunately there's a lot less to go on there. 14/15 is the end of the saga, there is no trilogy. Basically only exists to bring the dead characters back to life
I love and hate KOF XIII
Love it because of the awesome sprites, gameplay, stages and music.
Hate it because of the roster, it is one of my least favorites in the whole series.
My main issue is how it felt like the Orochi Saga all over again 😑
I missed the awesome roster of KOF XI, Duck King, Adelheid, Oswald, Momoko, Malin, Gai, Silber, Gato, Jenet, etc.
And the biggest reason why I am mad about KOF XII and XII is because those games killed the Maximum Impact series.
SNK Playmore spend many hours and money in the developent of those games. They had to cancel many upcoming projects like KOF Maximum Impact 3, KOF MI Regulation A 2 and KOF MI 360 (for XBOX 360) games that SNK announced in public events and were in development.
Many people think the MI series was a failure but in reality, the MI games sold very well in all the world.
And that's...makes me sad 😢😭
Was an interesting saga but I feel like it may be the least popular one. I could be wrong
27:06 damn
Omlet du fromage! Ash Crimson said sup.
I hate when characters are brought back. Should be the next topic of your videos. Do you bring back old characters or create new ones. Why kill off a good character in the first place???
Ash was very much hated at the time which is why they weren't scared to kill him off. Time heals all wounds though and a fondness was built for him which is why he was brought back.
@@rooflemonger taking Iori flame power was very bad lol. Almost as bad as Magneto taking away Wolverine adamantium. 😂
well...I guess ash saga is a good story...
I LOVEEEEEE ROOFLEMONGERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
hooray
The chinese spear doesn't use feathers. it's horse hair and the reason for that is actually very sinister. also that's not a rope dart. it's a chinese whip.
I use feathers as ephemera for the floof. And that is 100% a rope dart.
I want a DLC team for the new game that is one Boss from each saga
Well end of 16 Sega he probably gone again
One of the most fun versions of Kyo? Nah, he's the boring one. NESTS Kyo is where it's at =P
Also caught myself thinking "XIII one of the best what now? That game is kinda trash, actually" and slowly realising that like 90% of this opinion is: "Vice is back but I really don't like this version of her"
So who ate KoF XII?
12 is basically beta 13
Time constraints did
SNK did. 12 was... basically an unfinished game. There was no story or plot.
Meanwhile 2003 and XIII Fatal Fury team having awful endings
Don't you like when the villains are killed off by the power of script? 😆
Ash is my least favorite protagonist.
I don't like his design, gameplay and his annoying personality. He is an annoying jerk.
He almost ruined everything at the end, only to Elisabeth to fix Ash's mess.
Another thing I don't like about this saga is how almost all the new male characters have a very feminine design.
Shion being the worst case.
But that's just my personal opinion.
Finally, the whole Kensou's Dragon Spirit and Ron with the Hizoku plot was forgotten again