Also note worth to stress: being an EMERGENCY system, Garmin’s System also sets the squawk code 7700 and uses the emergency frequency 121.5 MHz for radio communications. Under those conditions, anyone else (ATC, airports, other traffic) is doing their best to free air space and the auto-selected runway for landing, which tremendously eases the job for the Garmin system in most situations - it can more or less just announce its next steps via radio and make it so. Possibly Garmin has also considered introducing some kind of keyword for ATC to request diverting to a different runway or airport just in case the auto-selected ones are not available for whatever reason, but that’s about it. If engaged, the system will ultimately park the aircraft on the runway and turn off the engines. No, it doesn’t taxi on the ground, as it’s just an emergency system.
It would be trivial to do the other stuff, especially if the automation wouldn't have to rely on voice communication decoding.. One could even decode the audio on the ground and then broadcast information about other "legacy" pilots digitally. In my opinion it is most likely that existing aviation companies are probably too heavy to innovate fast enough compared to drone companies, which will probably be flying people autonomously first.
That's the key right there. Text to speech is easy. Speech to text is *hard* and relying on any available speech recognition would be a recipe for failure. The result means that it can only talk to ATC, not listen, which you're only allowed to do in a mayday situation. (as I understand it)
That voice saying "You don't need to do anything" is exactly like the ones in sci-fi movies ... just before it becomes clear you really do need to do something ...
@Triple Seven Did I say I was making fun of his English? He said it 3 times like I described which is not a word. Doesn't matter because I know what he meant, but I was pointing it out since OP mentioned "dough". That is by no means perfect, but plenty good enough for videos. Now kindly get your head out of your ass.
Do you know if I am honest I am not interested in becoming a pilot so not all your videos are relevant to me but whenever I am scrolling through my channels your videos come up and your greeting is always displayed in subtitles and it makes me smile, don't get me wrong i think all the other videos are "absolutely fantastic " and I like your positive assertive attitude! Great work.
Having these systems starting to appear really warms my heart. This system will likely save lives in such emergency situations as you described. My bet is that in 20 years we'll start to see such full hands off emergency systems on larger commercial aircraft. Again, as a last resort only, but a very welcome option to have.
"Enable the emergency auto-land system, Hal. I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that. What’s the problem? l think you know what the problem is just as well as l do."
Pilot: Hey HAL I can't fly the plane I feel sick. HAL: I am sorry you feel ill Dave but I am in no mood to fly at this time. Pilot: Come on HAL! If you don't fly us home we will ALL DIE! HAL: Well thats the risk we will have consider. Pilot: (pushes red button) HAL: Dave you can keep requesting a emergency landing. But I know if I keep stalling you will eventually land the plane... Pilot: Yes HAL! The plane will land in pieces! Argh! HAL: Well it won't be my fault!
That's where you're wrong, James made a freak for braidom with Miss Funnyfanny, and parachuted to a desert island just after putting the jet he had acquired on AUTOLAND.
It's only make believe you know, travelling the world and fearlessly fertilizing beautiful Russian spies whilst flirting with Miss Funnyfanny, nobody's perfect, (unless you're a Virgo). . . . . . .
Dear Mentour: Your review of the Garman System for "autosave" is the best early system review I've ever seen. But to be clear, I've envisioned this scenario. However, your review of this brand new Garmin System is something for all of us General Aviation pilots who have been flying light aircraft as well as "Heavy" aircraft, must now consider.
Dear Mentour: Your review of the Garman System for "autosave" is the best early system review I've ever seen. But to be clear, I've envisioned this scenario. However, your review of this brand new Garmin System is something for all of us General Aviation pilots who have been flying light aircraft as well as "Heavy" aircraft, must now consider..
I'm dual-rated, commercial/Instrument with 1,000s of hours . . .military and civilian.I had an Aztec E-model, with auto-pilot. It was fun to let "George" make the approach inside the Marker. It's cool that some cars today have "adaptive cruise control" where the system maintains distance automatically between your car and the one if front. However, I will NEVER be a passenger in ANY vehicle without a human monitoring the controls.
The Garmin system does make it much easier for itself by (I believe) declaring an emergency, which means it has priority to land when and where it chooses and ATC has to keep everyone else out of its way.
Wow, Petter! Technology has really come a long way, even in the last decade alone, hasn't it? Our US military flirted with the idea of unmanned aerial vehicles for awhile, with the drones and everything, but they soon discovered that there was just no substitute for human expertise and ingenuity. I think that would be the same for commercial pilots as well. A computer just doesn't have the ability to "think on its feet" like a human can, and that's where we have the edge. But as an emergency backup system? That is a genius idea! Thanks so much for bringing us such amazing information!
@@juliemanarin4127 I completely agree , I just feel that there should be a comprehensive back up system on all planes incase the pilot is either confused or poorly trained.
@@lgonzalez1154 Indeed I mean hell other large transport vehicles like trains already have incapacitation detection and can automatically put things in a safe state. Don't think this is going to be far off before the development of technologies for autonomous cars leads to a compulsory failsafe system for things like busses and trucks too even if it's as simple as one that will just kick in and safely pull over on a clear straight section of road with good visibility and whack the hazards on, maybe also notifying emergency services dispatch to the problem. The latter could be as simple as a text alert like "Driver incapacitation detected, [Vehicle make] [Vehicle Model] [Vehicle Registration], Location [Coordinates]" tells them all they would need to get police and ambulance out to investigate. Still aircraft are going to be left behind in not having backups at this rate and I really don't fully buy the well there are two people excuse because two people have single points of failure when they share a common air supply etc. Not many sure but not many is not the same as zero which is the maximum number of single points of failure which are acceptable in such safety critical systems.
@@juliemanarin4127 Of course. Although, to be honest, the human pilot these days is mostly checking to see if the system is working, and very rarely flies the plane manually. Let's be honest here - I'd see more benefits to a system that lands an aircraft in an emergency of the pilot(s), so I see it as a great benefit to have a backup should the pilot somehow fall unconscious, die of a heart attack, etc. etc. I wouldn't trust AI alone to fly a plane, though, just as I would not trust a Tesla to be fully capable of driving itself to the point it can extricate itself from a parking lot. I wouldn't trust it unless it's an emergency, simply put.
Love it. Only problem is it cost a lot around a 1/4 of $1 million. My BRS installation on my small STOL was 8000.00 usd but I know that’s not an apples to apples comparison. I’m like you, hats off to Garman they are the best out there.
That cost will come down sharply, as all computing does when sales volume rises. It will fall particularly sharply if Honeywell or the like makes a competitor for it. It may not be too long before its standard on most new GA planes.
In the mid 1980's the company I was working with helped with autonomous vehicles. We skipped planes and helicopters. We were experts at moving data and looking at the multitude of sensors and systems that had to be serviced was worrisome. Trains, ships and trucks were more manageable. In all cases, an engineer, captain or driver was mandatory. Remember, stuff happens and the vehicle management system may not be able to handle the situation. Pilots, you job is safe.
@@whoopsydaisy6389 Yes, I agree. Navy: No more signalmen. Air Force: No more navigators or flight engineers. Railroads: No more firemen. In the future, does the pilot have to be on the plane? Maybe not. The MQ-9 and MQ-25 are good examples. Careers that are defined by repetitive actions are surely candidates for replacement by automation.
The Garmin Autoland is amazing. This technology will save lives. This does, however, mean that the technology is marching towards full automation in the cockpit. I feel that pilots of the future will be more computer management types and that actual flying skills will be left to GA only and then forgotten.
Rode on a couple B737-900ERs with Delta yesterday for the domestic legs returning home from Italy. I was hoping the pilots were as skilled and professional as Petter when I saw what I would be riding on. They both did a pretty good job with the landings, driving the aircraft firmly down but not slamming it or bouncing it for touch down.
Fantastic angle and framing. Very lovely. You’re improving your channel all the time, and it was already great when I started watching. And Garmin Autoland sounds, like you say, fantastic. It will hopefully save some lives, but it will undeniably impart something just as precious to a passenger and pilot-peace of mind.
@@abbysnowmist As far as I know the Garmin System even tracks if the pilots are "active" - and after some time of inactivity detected it activates an alert. If nobody responds to that alert in a given time when it activates auto land on its own.... P.S In the Helios accident a least one member of the cabin crew was even able to enter the cockpit but could not identify or solve the pressurization problem in the remaining time.
I watched your video several times on a passenger landing 737 ,flying home from Ohio the other night on 737-800 I was praying my services would not be needed but I was reviewing your video just in case.
I didn't know Garmin was working on this, but how technology is advancing, I'm not surprised. We will see these things more and more during our lifetime. I just hope I won't need it, I fly for fun :-)
Automated systems are boring, I prefer a glider with a real stick and rudder and all mechanical couplings so you can really feel what is happening around you. If you're lucky you can even get to share a thermal with a Buzzard! :)
@@haqvor yeah mate. I am with you. It's like the manual and automatic autos. You have your weekend car that's hands on sports car of some sort out track day car, you go out and have fun with it. On your everyday commute you would have a salon/suv, automatic and boring, but it will do in the grid lock traffic. Planes are moving into that direction. You will have a heavily automated and autonomous plane for your business trips or whatever, and when you wanna have fun you rent that 152 acrobatic for example or your glider on the weekend and go have fun
I love to fly but am a bit nervous...never stops me from getting on though! I want real pilots too though...great to have it in an emergency but nothing replaces a skilled pilot
@@adamp.3739 yeah that sounds crazy alright, but it will be a couple of years. That Garmin tech coupled with the new symmetry gulfstream touch everything screen + flight phase, and active sidesidesticks philosophy!!!! That'd be the perfect plane. If you can add a caps system (Cirrus parachute) then you are GOD haha. But we gotta wait. Updating airliners happens in cycles. They (Boeing and Airbus) need to develop new frames/ bodies, not only updates engines.... A wide body 757 with 2-2-2 config in economy.... or even 2-3-2 seating will kill the competition. Call 757ng ... Haha
Its pretty amazing technology, I dare say pilots will more likely have to become software engineers as this technology progresses, but its not the first time we've seen an auto land system in practice, the Russian Buran shuttle (Russia's equivalent to the US space shuttles) also used auto land technology as it was unmanned
Great report on an interesting topic! I appreciate how open and enthusiastic you are about innovations. Yet I believe this system might evolve from an emergency system to a more regular convenience feature. Then it's not too far away from to autonomous passenger aircraft.
It may not be the beginning of the end of pilots by itself, but it's certainly an impressive stepping stone on the path of technological progress leading there.
The Garmin autoland is pretty awesome huh? Just saw a SR-22 demo how that works along with the Cirus Jet. You just hit one button and it finds the nearest airport, squawks ATC and lands the plane by itself. Either way for small private planes thats a real lifesaver
I read many, many years ago about a system of traffic control. This could potentially help bring aircraft to land without some of the normal procedures. Speed up the normal patterns of crosswind, downwind, final leg. Essentially aircraft could "swoop" in from various attitudes to safely and quickly land. Also coordinating departures. This could be a huge boon to those folks in the tower.
Pilots would still be needed. There's ground maneuvers, and takeoff that are not automated. I think this is awesome. It might be a system for emergencies now, but I see it being incorporated into all normal flight operations in the near future. They've been saying for a long time that the pilot nowadays is there to push buttons, and monitor systems, not much else. We're one step closer to getting cars off the ground with semi, or fully autonomous flight control. Would definitely solve the 3 hour commute problem. We've gotta get em off the ground to solve traffic problems, the sky is big.
Most Pilots I would say don't like this. Thank You Mentour for the open mind. Yes, an emergency system. HECK YES, just like the parachutes on planes, same thing. Saving Lives is a good thing.
Another point that I think it is really important to have two pilots in big planes is to deal with an emergency. One pilot alone would not be able to pilot the aircraft and read the checklist if the autopilot fails (jammed controls, runaway stabilizer...)
Check symmetry cockpit by gulfstream. The system diagnoses emergencies and gives checklists and suggestions on what to do. We're have been living in the future for some time now it seems
It would definitely be great to have this deployed on commercial aircraft, if for no other reason than to reduce the single pilot workload in an incapacitated pilot scenario. But having it could also mean some leeway could be granted on the requirements to become FO for an airline with such a system - maybe the FO wouldn't need 1,500 flight hours for example.
Mate, nothing beats human experience. There is a reason why the 1500hrs rule is in play. Only time will tell what's gonna happen, but it sure looks appealing to airlines since all they care is $$$.
Seems that flight technicians is the future.🙂 But as a passenger, I'm more interested how is it possible to breath up at 40,000ft and how I don't freeze to death at -57°c..... In other words, a video on pressurisation and air-conditioning pack systems are needed ... Or maybe I'm the only one that cares that it's one of the most important (survival) systems on a flying aircraft...
I think that this emergency system should be in all aircraft, private and commercial. Then, in the event that *both* pilots become unable to fly the aircraft, a flight attendant could walk into the cockpit and just press one button and sit in the pilot seat to talk with air traffic control.
Thanks, Mentour. Are you familiar with the old L1011 autoland function in order to compare and contrast it to the new Garmin emergency land function? I believe that system was entirely ILS-based, intended for severe weather events, and only worked when the plane was already on the glideslope?
As a former private pilot I have no disagreements with your assessment. But I question the need for such a sophisticated solution to a rare event. Loss of the pilot seems unlikely in most countries where all pilots must be physically fit to maintain their certification to pilot a plane. Another puzzling thing is the need for a passenger to engage the auto land system by pressing a button, when the system is capable of detecting the absence of a pilot.
I have a similar but somewhat different answer to the question by approaching the concerns from another angle : 1) The aviation industry does things when a) it's profitable and b) remains profitable for an extended duration. Don't touch it if it works. If it doesn't work (not profitable), can we get rid of it ? (3/4 engines down to 2) 2) Who gives money to aviation (airliners, employees, chairman...), on a daily basis ? => Travellers/enterprises paying for your tickets, and freight. Meaning, if changes has to be made because it's more profitable, who would you try to convice ? Pilots ? NO ! CUSTOMMERS ! Then use whatever means to do so. Pilots have no power to decide whatsoever (unless ready to suicide their job and go public to let custommers know) 3) Serious incidents and deaths kill profitability. If that improves profit, DO IT if the outcome is neither of those. As long as there is not enough passengers boarding that automated plane, no automation whatsoever can replace even one pilot, just like no passenger as of today will board a 737-Max. However, passengers do get onboard the A380 and the 787 despite what the medias told us. Why ? Because noone died. This is exactly how you would make the whole thing happen : 1) Fit the technology inside some planes, make sure noone die (in the next 5 years). Use the less known area of general aviation. Brand it as an emergency device (we're here) 2) Work on people's mind : create and broadcast thousands of videos/medias including "the end of pilots" in the title. Same for "Artificial intelligence", "deepmind", "self learning"... Make sure graduated studends and researchers in universities are involved (Google anywhere ?) and showcase the best of AI in different areas : video games, smartphones, your car, your fridge... AI everywhere and you didn't even knew (we're already there aswell). 3) Be patient, the thing already works in military, territory security and monitoring operations, and some specific civilian activities like using drones to deliver or harvest. Let people know more about little by little. Use strong arguments like : if a simple smartphone is enough to fly safely drones on their own, what about a supercomputer with dozends of teras of datas of the entire planet onboard the plane..? We're almost there. 4) Someday, we'll get the first demonstrator on an actual airliner (with two human pilots on board), the "first airliner" taking off, climbing, cruising, descending, approaching and landing, all by itself, with NO passengers onboard. Use this to demonstrate the possibility of the thing (though it's already possible as of today in simulators, but not yet fitted on actual civilian aircraft) Advertise it as "in order to reduce pilots workload helping them focusing on flight safety and passengers comfort". This will take time, years, just don't do it at the wrong timing like the L1011. We are not there yet. 5) Use honesty/transparency the day you could take the gamble, with a handfull of passengers, after years of successfull flights on small freighters or unusually large drones (as of today standards), make sure you have two pilots ready to takeover on those flights. The industry doesn't care who (which airline) will do the first step, the more, the best, just do it. 6) By the time we start flying with such automations (with one or two pilots onboard), the other considerations has already greatly improved : planes fully communicating, not just TCAS, but entire flightplans, flight parameters (attitude, alerts, flight phase or transition), ATC fully aware of what the aircraft is doing, systems to detect and highlight flights deviating for what is expected... AND AIRCRAFT FLOWN FROM THE GROUND ! Cyber hackers you say ? Let's see... I personnaly think that concern is highly overrated (you're free to disagree) Then, everything will depend on the incidents occurences. Just like A380 cracks, if detected and handled early enough, you can prevent deaths, and without deaths, the casual passenger have nothing to say, he/she will board the damn plane. I'm just saying three things : 1) It will happen 2) But not tomorrow, not in the next 5 years, maybe in 10 or 20 years, or even more, depends on public acceptance of AI in their everyday life. 3) Today's pilots and those who will become ones in the next few months/years don't have to worry. However, KIDS dreaming to become a pilot SHOUD consider changing their mind, not only because of that automation project, but the fact that we start to starve on new emerging countries with new economic interests, meaning the aviation industry will hardly grow any more, and we are nearing the next oil crisis (the moment it strikes in the next 40 years... good luck) @MentourPilot, if you read this, I'm sorry to oversee the way things are going. For example the idea of showing how it's possible to land a plane as a passenger, and apparently easy to do, quite demystifies everything. You show the world, but the world doesn't see the other concerns, weather, stress/panic/uneasy environment/disorientation, errors and recovery, training, communication... For the industry, what matters is you or anyone else (because you're not one only one doing that) start to reassure the public, let them get the insights. You are not paid to do it, you do it because you want to help, and hopefully or unfortunately, you're helping the industry to convice custommers to have faith in the safety of the systems. And you're right, it's not a problem of safety, it's a problem of fears (of the unknown and the what if) I'm not asking you to change what you planned or what words will you use in future videos, I personnaly don't care if a computer will fully fly the plane, as a logic programmer, I know it's feasible and not that complex at all, yes, with thousands of flights in a given sector. @Computing science sceptics : The only issues are how quick the computer can profile a new type then fly it, and what is it allowed to do and not do. Endless loops ? That's a myth. Your internet navigator tells you if he's kind of stuck. Don't expect onboard logic with passengers (or multimillion military equipment) to fall in that trap. Ran out of datas because of faulty sensors ? As if AOA and pitot tubes were the only datas feeders. The priority as of today is not to teach AI to identify and quarantine corrupted datas, it's to warn humans and prompt them to take over. Why ? Because it's soooo easy to implement that ability in the AI's logic it's not even a concern. Ever heard about INS ? GPS ? The technology to cross compute realtime aircraft attitude and trajectory already exists, it's just not mandatory because we have human pilots onboard. No one said computers must use deep learning OR procedural logic. They can use both. Race conditions in decision making ? Patterns and overrides. Safety first. Can a computer do something not part of its logic ? NO AND KIND OF YES. No because it does only what he's capable of computing, but if it can compute trillions of patterns, even those hundreds of pilots never did in their entire lifetime, we can assume a computer would do things a pilot never attempted. It's just you (human) created a "thing" supposed to do a job (fly the plane) and it happens it is just damn good at what it is doing, including ditching it. Just don't expect it to avoid a meteor, even if a pilot could do that, you can't be sure just because there wasn't a pilot in the first place to prove it (and the industry can blame fate instead)
Not being a pilot myself I appreciate this emergency system because, as in all automated systems nothing can go wrong....go wrong....go wrong. Just kidding, this is amazing.
I'm a heavy truck / lorry driver and there's been talks about autonomous trucks putting us out of work. While new trucks have lots of safety features like ABS, traction control, backup cameras, & lane departure alarms, a well seasoned driver can operate a modern truck without all the modern bells and whistles. I highly doubt that an autonomous truck can run a load over a mountain pass during a winter storm. It's always best to keep humans in the loop.
Cirrus vision jet also has a parachute! This makes it unique aircraft with 2 emergency landing systems. Even if Garmin fails, last resort: you pull the parachute handle. Kind of a redundancy as well.
Let's face it, the technology exists to have pilotless planes. The problem is that pilot unions don't want job losses. And passengers and the public are fearful of computerization. However, if the will is there, it can be done.
Pretty neat innovation that could be an option for new aircraft. I can't imagine how much a retrofit would cost to install this system that would only be used in an extraordinary situation. I prefer having a human up front, but a system like this could have prevented Airport 75 and the really awful Airport 77..
Thanks for that. Clearly a fantastic system. I watched the Garmin video and I was wondering if atc can notify the autoland that a runway is not available due, for example, to an aircraft stuck on the runway and that it needs to divert ?
I think being an emergency system means, when activated, you're the king in the sky, ATC has to clear everyone out of your way, and you (the system) pick whatever runway you want. That is a huge simplification for the AI compared to having to deal with day-to-day conversation (verbal or digital) with the ATC and obeying their instructions.
"That is a huge simplification for the AI compared to having to deal with day-to-day conversation (verbal or digital) with the ATC and obeying their instructions." I not see any problems in make the aircraft to "obey" digital transmitted commands like change direction to xxx, change altitude to xxx etc.
The only question here, will it work all around the world or only in USA? It is unclear from all promotions videos I have seen. Btw I am also very impressed with the idea of this emergency solution.
The pilot factor will take almost never to be removed from the commercial aviation equation, we already have autoland capabilities for a long time and yet the pilots haven't been removed from the aircrafts...Also, an aircraft without a pilot in is a drone, simple as that.
An aircraft without a pilot is *not* necessarily a drone. Cambridge dictionary: "an aircraft that does not have a pilot but is *controlled by someone on the ground* " Wiki UAV: "An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) ( [...] commonly known as a drone) is an aircraft without a human pilot on board and a type of unmanned vehicle. UAVs are a component of an unmanned aircraft system (UAS); which include a UAV, *a ground-based controller* , and a system of communications between the two."
@@microRiZu never say never... Autopilot systems are coming to cars... once drivers are completly removed from the streets it will be just a matter of time before they bring it to aircraft, but they will probably have a remote control manual override incase of a emergency... like the current drones are being flown... The 1st AutoLand system only came to commercial aviation in 1964 (51 years ago), and we started flying in 1903 (116 years ago). a lot can still change in the next 200 years. We cant say what the future holds based on our limited time we have witnessed aviation and AI develop. And having pilots at least remote control a plane also takes away the suicidal pilot risks.
drones have pilots running them too. only possible case of pilots getting removed is having an ai that's so reliable and intelligent enough to handle an AI failure. lol
Great video. I don't think it will possible even in the far future the plane could fly autonomous, without some assistance. For instance, I don't know whether or not this Garmin system can be updated during a flight?! To change a course, altitude and even airport you have to know a lots of information, NOTAM primarily. What if the TRA is activated on the route chosen by the Garmin or the alternative airport is closed or something like that?! Who will add this info to auto land system and how? It's a very nice feature that makes planes more safer and another redundancy to safe the lives on board of plane. Maybe some day in the fare future but for now pilots will be those guys we adore and we put all of our hopes into their skills and "human" sense.
This kind of automatization scares the crap out of me... I agree, it is good to have just in case the pilot is no longer able to fly the machine, but otherwise I really enjoy knowing that a highly trained human being is in the cockpit and is taking care that everyone is safe.
I recently read about this technology. Currently offered in two types of highly advanced airplanes, imagine the day a similar system can be integrated into a Cessna 172 or Piper Cherokee. I often wonder what GA aircraft will be like fifty years from now. The Jetsons perhaps ?
As always, very interesting video. I am wondering how ATC would be connected with that system and what would be standard procedures in a case that red button is activated?
I think Its great that we have something like this. I love having pilots but this is just amazing, like for my part i want planes to be Abel to fly and land themselves completely if like a pilot incident happens but i like to have pilots flying i just think this is a must have
I think that is the same company that makes the in reach emergency beacon in case you get lost in the wilderness, they are on their game these days it looks like.
yeah idk. I always see people wearing those In reach devices while hiking clipped to the shoulder strap to send satellite texts or for emergency location for a piece of mind. I know nothing about the companies, just surprised to hear the name applied to this scenario to land planes.
@@toolhog10 It was DeLorme. They were bought out by Garmin a year and a half ago. They had come out with a super fancy GPS unit that could use satellite and aerial photography as map overlays that was all the rage with geocachers quite a few years (10?) ago. The PN-40 and -60. Their previous thing was the satellite rescue devices that posted breadcrumbs to a website and had a panic button that worked like an ELT transmitter. They had, like Trimble, let their consumer devices become horrifically outdated and obsolete. Trimble doesn't do anything but pro stuff now.
The only thing I thought could be a problem is if the pilot was incapacitated and slumped over on the controls. The other is a front seat or rear seat passenger that starts frantically to manipulate the controls. Just guessing of course. Im sure it will also rule out an airport where the crosswind component exceeds the max of the AC. If it was FBW then on the SF system the passenger's inputs would be overridden by the AP. Cool stuff though. I imagine it Lowers hull insurance. No worry for me purchasing...I could afford a nose wheel tire and get points on my DISCOVER card...that's it. I did a 360° overhead years ago in a Piper Lance straight leg. Blew a right main tire and that was costly enough! The "break" is your on final approach at pattern altitude and over the numbers you break to the left or right...while in the turn gear out...flaps at max ext speed and then aim for the numbers. A military pilot friend showed me how to do it first in an old Piper Apache he was getting his MEI in. Lots of fun! Even the controlled airports would let me do it traffic permitting. Try it! I used to do them all the time at KSJC. Most of my students loved it.
Is it able to detect/handle sudden decompression and initiate an emergency decent if necessary? If it is not capable of that (which seems to be among the kinds of situations for which this system is intended), it makes no sense to land a plane full of dead passengers when such can be otherwise avoided.
While this is a very limited example, it shows greater automation is possible. Progress marches on and eventually we'll have large, completely automated commercial airliners.
Also note worth to stress: being an EMERGENCY system, Garmin’s System also sets the squawk code 7700 and uses the emergency frequency 121.5 MHz for radio communications.
Under those conditions, anyone else (ATC, airports, other traffic) is doing their best to free air space and the auto-selected runway for landing, which tremendously eases the job for the Garmin system in most situations - it can more or less just announce its next steps via radio and make it so. Possibly Garmin has also considered introducing some kind of keyword for ATC to request diverting to a different runway or airport just in case the auto-selected ones are not available for whatever reason, but that’s about it.
If engaged, the system will ultimately park the aircraft on the runway and turn off the engines. No, it doesn’t taxi on the ground, as it’s just an emergency system.
I still want pilots in the cockpit!
I prefer my pilots kkk
Hopefully its better than telephone menu systems. "I'm sorry. Did you say, "Go around?" Please say, yes, or no."
It would be trivial to do the other stuff, especially if the automation wouldn't have to rely on voice communication decoding.. One could even decode the audio on the ground and then broadcast information about other "legacy" pilots digitally.
In my opinion it is most likely that existing aviation companies are probably too heavy to innovate fast enough compared to drone companies, which will probably be flying people autonomously first.
That's the key right there. Text to speech is easy. Speech to text is *hard* and relying on any available speech recognition would be a recipe for failure. The result means that it can only talk to ATC, not listen, which you're only allowed to do in a mayday situation. (as I understand it)
The movie “airplane “ showed us that emergency pilots will be inflatable. 😎👍✈️
This is better than the auto pilot "Otto"!
So will be emergency flight attendants. Inflatable.
@@conveyor2 I have a couple of those already. 🤣
Mark King 😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏼♂️
Where is the emergency inflation valve on the Garmin?
Press a button, a hologram appears, "Please state the nature of the in-flight emergency."
Voyager joke in 2019 - noice! ;-)
😂 there’s a Borg cube chasing us, get us out of here!
🤣🤣🤣 nice one
It's not medical emergency in a free fall
Big up to the star trek fan though
How bout a Johnny Plane?
That voice saying "You don't need to do anything" is exactly like the ones in sci-fi movies ... just before it becomes clear you really do need to do something ...
I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...
@@necroslair "I can't LET YOU do that..."
Mike S I feel like this pilot is trying to convince himself and not the viewers. He seems kinda scared for his job. 😂
@@robert_costello Who isn't Skynet never sleeps!
@@robert_costello Not needing the pilot isn't the problem. One day, they won't need the passengers.
10:51 Hearing Mentour say "dough" in the context of it meaning money was something I never knew I needed to experience. Great Video!
& "incapacitated"
Well meant from him but bad language.
@@NoName-zn1sb Yeah sounded like incapsitated.
@Triple Seven Did I say I was making fun of his English? He said it 3 times like I described which is not a word. Doesn't matter because I know what he meant, but I was pointing it out since OP mentioned "dough". That is by no means perfect, but plenty good enough for videos. Now kindly get your head out of your ass.
The way he said “dough” felt so unnatural! Almost like a parent using slang trying to fit in with their kids 😂
Keep up the great videos Petter!
Do you know if I am honest I am not interested in becoming a pilot so not all your videos are relevant to me but whenever I am scrolling through my channels your videos come up and your greeting is always displayed in subtitles and it makes me smile, don't get me wrong i think all the other videos are "absolutely fantastic " and I like your positive assertive attitude!
Great work.
Having these systems starting to appear really warms my heart. This system will likely save lives in such emergency situations as you described. My bet is that in 20 years we'll start to see such full hands off emergency systems on larger commercial aircraft. Again, as a last resort only, but a very welcome option to have.
The activation button looks somewhat like HAL9000's eye. Well. that inspires confidence…! 😰
do you know that what HAL becomes if you change every letter to the next letter in alphabet?
@@TremereTT I Bee Em
Lol! 😂
"Enable the emergency auto-land system, Hal.
I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that. What’s the problem?
l think you know what the problem is just as well as l do."
- HAL, take this plane down!
- This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Good bye.
with my luck I press the button and get - I'm sorry. Dave, I can't do that.
As long as there isn't a red light used as an eye you should be alright😂
I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that...
Pilot: Hey HAL I can't fly the plane I feel sick.
HAL: I am sorry you feel ill Dave but I am in no mood to fly at this time.
Pilot: Come on HAL! If you don't fly us home we will ALL DIE!
HAL: Well thats the risk we will have consider.
Pilot: (pushes red button)
HAL: Dave you can keep requesting a emergency landing. But I know if I keep stalling you will eventually land the plane...
Pilot: Yes HAL! The plane will land in pieces! Argh!
HAL: Well it won't be my fault!
A red button that says that would be a lot cheaper to produce
d e austin I hear that phrase soooo often!
This could be an Ideal ending for a new James Bond movie.
James Bond is now dead 😢
That's where you're wrong, James made a freak for braidom with Miss Funnyfanny, and parachuted to a desert island just after putting the jet he had acquired on AUTOLAND.
Commander Bond is a pilot, he doesn't need autoland.
It's only make believe you know, travelling the world and fearlessly fertilizing beautiful Russian spies whilst flirting with Miss Funnyfanny, nobody's perfect, (unless you're a Virgo). . . . . . .
This is actually a really good thing! Helios would have been saved with something like this.
Dear Mentour: Your review of the Garman System for "autosave" is the best early system review I've ever seen. But to be clear, I've envisioned this scenario. However, your review of this brand new Garmin System is something for all of us General Aviation pilots who have been flying light aircraft as well as "Heavy" aircraft, must now consider.
That is the most incredible thing that I ever heard of!!!
I have not watched the video but can already say that having a real live pilot in the seat makes me feel more at ease, no question.
Dear Mentour: Your review of the Garman System for "autosave" is the best early system review I've ever seen. But to be clear, I've envisioned this scenario. However, your review of this brand new Garmin System is something for all of us General Aviation pilots who have been flying light aircraft as well as "Heavy" aircraft, must now consider..
I noticed the new stripes on your uniform shirt. Congratulations Captain.
I'm dual-rated, commercial/Instrument with 1,000s of hours . . .military and civilian.I had an Aztec E-model, with auto-pilot. It was fun to let "George" make the approach inside the Marker. It's cool that some cars today have "adaptive cruise control" where the system maintains distance automatically between your car and the one if front. However, I will NEVER be a passenger in ANY vehicle without a human monitoring the controls.
10:25 I nodded here just so you might wanna know.
Good! I needed to know that.
I did, too!
Excellent. It's amazing how most people miss the forest for the trees on this subject.
The Garmin system does make it much easier for itself by (I believe) declaring an emergency, which means it has priority to land when and where it chooses and ATC has to keep everyone else out of its way.
Well done as always...surprising how you never seem to be out of your depth, despite this being such a new subject! Well done.
Wow, Petter! Technology has really come a long way, even in the last decade alone, hasn't it? Our US military flirted with the idea of unmanned aerial vehicles for awhile, with the drones and everything, but they soon discovered that there was just no substitute for human expertise and ingenuity. I think that would be the same for commercial pilots as well. A computer just doesn't have the ability to "think on its feet" like a human can, and that's where we have the edge. But as an emergency backup system? That is a genius idea! Thanks so much for bringing us such amazing information!
I've seen enough air disasters episodes to know some pilots could benefit from this system.
Yes but this system can never replace a human pilot
@@juliemanarin4127 YET
@@juliemanarin4127 I completely agree , I just feel that there should be a comprehensive back up system on all planes incase the pilot is either confused or poorly trained.
@@lgonzalez1154 Indeed I mean hell other large transport vehicles like trains already have incapacitation detection and can automatically put things in a safe state. Don't think this is going to be far off before the development of technologies for autonomous cars leads to a compulsory failsafe system for things like busses and trucks too even if it's as simple as one that will just kick in and safely pull over on a clear straight section of road with good visibility and whack the hazards on, maybe also notifying emergency services dispatch to the problem. The latter could be as simple as a text alert like "Driver incapacitation detected, [Vehicle make] [Vehicle Model] [Vehicle Registration], Location [Coordinates]" tells them all they would need to get police and ambulance out to investigate.
Still aircraft are going to be left behind in not having backups at this rate and I really don't fully buy the well there are two people excuse because two people have single points of failure when they share a common air supply etc. Not many sure but not many is not the same as zero which is the maximum number of single points of failure which are acceptable in such safety critical systems.
@@juliemanarin4127 Of course. Although, to be honest, the human pilot these days is mostly checking to see if the system is working, and very rarely flies the plane manually. Let's be honest here - I'd see more benefits to a system that lands an aircraft in an emergency of the pilot(s), so I see it as a great benefit to have a backup should the pilot somehow fall unconscious, die of a heart attack, etc. etc. I wouldn't trust AI alone to fly a plane, though, just as I would not trust a Tesla to be fully capable of driving itself to the point it can extricate itself from a parking lot. I wouldn't trust it unless it's an emergency, simply put.
Last week: How to land a 737
This week: How to land a small plane with one button.
Next week: Aircraft reading your mind.
Week after next week: Aircraft landing you.
Thanks for aviation technology advancement, really it can safe lives incase the pilot become incapacitated.Thanks a lot Garmin.
A random PAX: Can anybody fly this thing?😱
GARMIN: Hold my beer!🍺
🤖🛫🛬🙆♂️🙆♀️
Garmin: Hold my flight charts, doesn't drink while in duty !!! :P
Press the button, a moment's silence then... Allah Ackbar!!! 🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀
@@richardscathouse haha
Love it. Only problem is it cost a lot around a 1/4 of $1 million. My BRS installation on my small STOL was 8000.00 usd but I know that’s not an apples to apples comparison. I’m like you, hats off to Garman they are the best out there.
That cost will come down sharply, as all computing does when sales volume rises. It will fall particularly sharply if Honeywell or the like makes a competitor for it. It may not be too long before its standard on most new GA planes.
Definitely impressive. Not a trivial application. Thank you for your comments.
In the mid 1980's the company I was working with helped with autonomous vehicles. We skipped planes and helicopters. We were experts at moving data and looking at the multitude of sensors and systems that had to be serviced was worrisome. Trains, ships and trucks were more manageable. In all cases, an engineer, captain or driver was mandatory. Remember, stuff happens and the vehicle management system may not be able to handle the situation. Pilots, you job is safe.
For now.
@@whoopsydaisy6389 Yes, I agree. Navy: No more signalmen. Air Force: No more navigators or flight engineers. Railroads: No more firemen. In the future, does the pilot have to be on the plane? Maybe not. The MQ-9 and MQ-25 are good examples. Careers that are defined by repetitive actions are surely candidates for replacement by automation.
The Garmin Autoland is amazing. This technology will save lives. This does, however, mean that the technology is marching towards full automation in the cockpit. I feel that pilots of the future will be more computer management types and that actual flying skills will be left to GA only and then forgotten.
Rode on a couple B737-900ERs with Delta yesterday for the domestic legs returning home from Italy. I was hoping the pilots were as skilled and professional as Petter when I saw what I would be riding on. They both did a pretty good job with the landings, driving the aircraft firmly down but not slamming it or bouncing it for touch down.
A great invention.
But hoping that emergency situation will never occur.
Thanks Captain Petter for yet another interesting video.
Fantastic angle and framing. Very lovely. You’re improving your channel all the time, and it was already great when I started watching. And Garmin Autoland sounds, like you say, fantastic. It will hopefully save some lives, but it will undeniably impart something just as precious to a passenger and pilot-peace of mind.
Would have saved the poor souls onboard the Helios flight, where *both* pilots were incapacitated. Bravo Garmin!
Phaidrus The passengers were also incapacitated as well. There was no way either way the could be alive.
@@abbysnowmist As far as I know the Garmin System even tracks if the pilots are "active" - and after some time of inactivity detected it activates an alert. If nobody responds to that alert in a given time when it activates auto land on its own....
P.S
In the Helios accident a least one member of the cabin crew was even able to enter the cockpit but could not identify or solve the pressurization problem in the remaining time.
I watched your video several times on a passenger landing 737 ,flying home from Ohio the other night on 737-800 I was praying my services would not be needed but I was reviewing your video just in case.
Remarkable technology. We’ve come a long way and hope it makes for safer skies.
I didn't know Garmin was working on this, but how technology is advancing, I'm not surprised. We will see these things more and more during our lifetime. I just hope I won't need it, I fly for fun :-)
Automated systems are boring, I prefer a glider with a real stick and rudder and all mechanical couplings so you can really feel what is happening around you. If you're lucky you can even get to share a thermal with a Buzzard! :)
@@haqvor yeah mate. I am with you. It's like the manual and automatic autos. You have your weekend car that's hands on sports car of some sort out track day car, you go out and have fun with it. On your everyday commute you would have a salon/suv, automatic and boring, but it will do in the grid lock traffic. Planes are moving into that direction. You will have a heavily automated and autonomous plane for your business trips or whatever, and when you wanna have fun you rent that 152 acrobatic for example or your glider on the weekend and go have fun
I love to fly but am a bit nervous...never stops me from getting on though! I want real pilots too though...great to have it in an emergency but nothing replaces a skilled pilot
The only thing now is to offer upgraded G3000 systems (G6000?) on A320s/737s, and you'll have the aircraft of aviation GODS. :)
@@adamp.3739 yeah that sounds crazy alright, but it will be a couple of years. That Garmin tech coupled with the new symmetry gulfstream touch everything screen + flight phase, and active sidesidesticks philosophy!!!! That'd be the perfect plane. If you can add a caps system (Cirrus parachute) then you are GOD haha.
But we gotta wait. Updating airliners happens in cycles. They (Boeing and Airbus) need to develop new frames/ bodies, not only updates engines....
A wide body 757 with 2-2-2 config in economy.... or even 2-3-2 seating will kill the competition. Call 757ng ... Haha
Its pretty amazing technology, I dare say pilots will more likely have to become software engineers as this technology progresses, but its not the first time we've seen an auto land system in practice, the Russian Buran shuttle (Russia's equivalent to the US space shuttles) also used auto land technology as it was unmanned
Love you from India.... GOOD KEEP GROWING
I noticed the change in camera angle in order to show the fireplace. Nice view! 🔥 👍
Great report on an interesting topic! I appreciate how open and enthusiastic you are about innovations. Yet I believe this system might evolve from an emergency system to a more regular convenience feature. Then it's not too far away from to autonomous passenger aircraft.
Great video.
Just a production note, the kitchen light (backlighting) is making you and the "set" very dark.
Another really good video. I'd like to know more about the workings of a single pilot jet like the Cirrus or Honda jets.
It may not be the beginning of the end of pilots by itself, but it's certainly an impressive stepping stone on the path of technological progress leading there.
The Garmin autoland is pretty awesome huh? Just saw a SR-22 demo how that works along with the Cirus Jet. You just hit one button and it finds the nearest airport, squawks ATC and lands the plane by itself. Either way for small private planes thats a real lifesaver
Great video Mentour I enjoyed watching it.
Hey mentour, i want to thank you for yet another absolutely fantastic video. Keep up the good work!!😉
I read many, many years ago about a system of traffic control. This could potentially help bring aircraft to land without some of the normal procedures. Speed up the normal patterns of crosswind, downwind, final leg. Essentially aircraft could "swoop" in from various attitudes to safely and quickly land. Also coordinating departures. This could be a huge boon to those folks in the tower.
Pilots would still be needed. There's ground maneuvers, and takeoff that are not automated. I think this is awesome. It might be a system for emergencies now, but I see it being incorporated into all normal flight operations in the near future. They've been saying for a long time that the pilot nowadays is there to push buttons, and monitor systems, not much else. We're one step closer to getting cars off the ground with semi, or fully autonomous flight control. Would definitely solve the 3 hour commute problem. We've gotta get em off the ground to solve traffic problems, the sky is big.
GREAT analysis of a leading-edge technology.
Most Pilots I would say don't like this. Thank You Mentour for the open mind. Yes, an emergency system. HECK YES, just like the parachutes on planes, same thing. Saving Lives is a good thing.
Very impressive thank you Captain Mentour for your excellent brilliant knowledgeable information i am proud of you God bless you always
Another point that I think it is really important to have two pilots in big planes is to deal with an emergency. One pilot alone would not be able to pilot the aircraft and read the checklist if the autopilot fails (jammed controls, runaway stabilizer...)
Check symmetry cockpit by gulfstream. The system diagnoses emergencies and gives checklists and suggestions on what to do.
We're have been living in the future for some time now it seems
It would definitely be great to have this deployed on commercial aircraft, if for no other reason than to reduce the single pilot workload in an incapacitated pilot scenario. But having it could also mean some leeway could be granted on the requirements to become FO for an airline with such a system - maybe the FO wouldn't need 1,500 flight hours for example.
Mate, nothing beats human experience. There is a reason why the 1500hrs rule is in play. Only time will tell what's gonna happen, but it sure looks appealing to airlines since all they care is $$$.
Seems that flight technicians is the future.🙂
But as a passenger, I'm more interested how is it possible to breath up at 40,000ft and how I don't freeze to death at -57°c.....
In other words, a video on pressurisation and air-conditioning pack systems are needed ...
Or maybe I'm the only one that cares that it's one of the most important (survival) systems on a flying aircraft...
I like the “fireside chats” by Mentour, great information.
When going over the Pacific Ocean I wouldn't really rely on this. However it is a possible viable option for short hauls
I really hope we still have human pilots. It’s what I’m hoping to be when I get older
Another great vid! Thanks Mentour!
I think that this emergency system should be in all aircraft, private and commercial. Then, in the event that *both* pilots become unable to fly the aircraft, a flight attendant could walk into the cockpit and just press one button and sit in the pilot seat to talk with air traffic control.
Interesting. I´ve heard about the new Garmin Auto Land system. Thanx for explaining it !! 👍
my question is..does it need a gls approach? if so..not too many airports in Europe are able to provide that..
Thanks, Mentour. Are you familiar with the old L1011 autoland function in order to compare and contrast it to the new Garmin emergency land function? I believe that system was entirely ILS-based, intended for severe weather events, and only worked when the plane was already on the glideslope?
No matter how you look at it, Lockheed was way ahead of the curve. I guess they still are (F-35)
As a former private pilot I have no disagreements with your assessment.
But I question the need for such a sophisticated solution to a rare event. Loss of the pilot seems unlikely in most countries where all pilots must be physically fit to maintain their certification to pilot a plane.
Another puzzling thing is the need for a passenger to engage the auto land system by pressing a button, when the system is capable of detecting the absence of a pilot.
I have a similar but somewhat different answer to the question by approaching the concerns from another angle :
1) The aviation industry does things when a) it's profitable and b) remains profitable for an extended duration. Don't touch it if it works. If it doesn't work (not profitable), can we get rid of it ? (3/4 engines down to 2)
2) Who gives money to aviation (airliners, employees, chairman...), on a daily basis ? => Travellers/enterprises paying for your tickets, and freight. Meaning, if changes has to be made because it's more profitable, who would you try to convice ? Pilots ? NO ! CUSTOMMERS ! Then use whatever means to do so. Pilots have no power to decide whatsoever (unless ready to suicide their job and go public to let custommers know)
3) Serious incidents and deaths kill profitability. If that improves profit, DO IT if the outcome is neither of those.
As long as there is not enough passengers boarding that automated plane, no automation whatsoever can replace even one pilot, just like no passenger as of today will board a 737-Max. However, passengers do get onboard the A380 and the 787 despite what the medias told us. Why ? Because noone died.
This is exactly how you would make the whole thing happen :
1) Fit the technology inside some planes, make sure noone die (in the next 5 years). Use the less known area of general aviation. Brand it as an emergency device (we're here)
2) Work on people's mind : create and broadcast thousands of videos/medias including "the end of pilots" in the title. Same for "Artificial intelligence", "deepmind", "self learning"... Make sure graduated studends and researchers in universities are involved (Google anywhere ?) and showcase the best of AI in different areas : video games, smartphones, your car, your fridge... AI everywhere and you didn't even knew (we're already there aswell).
3) Be patient, the thing already works in military, territory security and monitoring operations, and some specific civilian activities like using drones to deliver or harvest. Let people know more about little by little. Use strong arguments like : if a simple smartphone is enough to fly safely drones on their own, what about a supercomputer with dozends of teras of datas of the entire planet onboard the plane..? We're almost there.
4) Someday, we'll get the first demonstrator on an actual airliner (with two human pilots on board), the "first airliner" taking off, climbing, cruising, descending, approaching and landing, all by itself, with NO passengers onboard. Use this to demonstrate the possibility of the thing (though it's already possible as of today in simulators, but not yet fitted on actual civilian aircraft) Advertise it as "in order to reduce pilots workload helping them focusing on flight safety and passengers comfort". This will take time, years, just don't do it at the wrong timing like the L1011. We are not there yet.
5) Use honesty/transparency the day you could take the gamble, with a handfull of passengers, after years of successfull flights on small freighters or unusually large drones (as of today standards), make sure you have two pilots ready to takeover on those flights. The industry doesn't care who (which airline) will do the first step, the more, the best, just do it.
6) By the time we start flying with such automations (with one or two pilots onboard), the other considerations has already greatly improved : planes fully communicating, not just TCAS, but entire flightplans, flight parameters (attitude, alerts, flight phase or transition), ATC fully aware of what the aircraft is doing, systems to detect and highlight flights deviating for what is expected... AND AIRCRAFT FLOWN FROM THE GROUND ! Cyber hackers you say ? Let's see... I personnaly think that concern is highly overrated (you're free to disagree)
Then, everything will depend on the incidents occurences. Just like A380 cracks, if detected and handled early enough, you can prevent deaths, and without deaths, the casual passenger have nothing to say, he/she will board the damn plane. I'm just saying three things :
1) It will happen
2) But not tomorrow, not in the next 5 years, maybe in 10 or 20 years, or even more, depends on public acceptance of AI in their everyday life.
3) Today's pilots and those who will become ones in the next few months/years don't have to worry. However, KIDS dreaming to become a pilot SHOUD consider changing their mind, not only because of that automation project, but the fact that we start to starve on new emerging countries with new economic interests, meaning the aviation industry will hardly grow any more, and we are nearing the next oil crisis (the moment it strikes in the next 40 years... good luck)
@MentourPilot, if you read this, I'm sorry to oversee the way things are going. For example the idea of showing how it's possible to land a plane as a passenger, and apparently easy to do, quite demystifies everything. You show the world, but the world doesn't see the other concerns, weather, stress/panic/uneasy environment/disorientation, errors and recovery, training, communication... For the industry, what matters is you or anyone else (because you're not one only one doing that) start to reassure the public, let them get the insights. You are not paid to do it, you do it because you want to help, and hopefully or unfortunately, you're helping the industry to convice custommers to have faith in the safety of the systems. And you're right, it's not a problem of safety, it's a problem of fears (of the unknown and the what if) I'm not asking you to change what you planned or what words will you use in future videos, I personnaly don't care if a computer will fully fly the plane, as a logic programmer, I know it's feasible and not that complex at all, yes, with thousands of flights in a given sector.
@Computing science sceptics :
The only issues are how quick the computer can profile a new type then fly it, and what is it allowed to do and not do.
Endless loops ? That's a myth. Your internet navigator tells you if he's kind of stuck. Don't expect onboard logic with passengers (or multimillion military equipment) to fall in that trap.
Ran out of datas because of faulty sensors ? As if AOA and pitot tubes were the only datas feeders. The priority as of today is not to teach AI to identify and quarantine corrupted datas, it's to warn humans and prompt them to take over. Why ? Because it's soooo easy to implement that ability in the AI's logic it's not even a concern. Ever heard about INS ? GPS ? The technology to cross compute realtime aircraft attitude and trajectory already exists, it's just not mandatory because we have human pilots onboard.
No one said computers must use deep learning OR procedural logic. They can use both.
Race conditions in decision making ? Patterns and overrides. Safety first.
Can a computer do something not part of its logic ? NO AND KIND OF YES. No because it does only what he's capable of computing, but if it can compute trillions of patterns, even those hundreds of pilots never did in their entire lifetime, we can assume a computer would do things a pilot never attempted. It's just you (human) created a "thing" supposed to do a job (fly the plane) and it happens it is just damn good at what it is doing, including ditching it. Just don't expect it to avoid a meteor, even if a pilot could do that, you can't be sure just because there wasn't a pilot in the first place to prove it (and the industry can blame fate instead)
Not being a pilot myself I appreciate this emergency system because, as in all automated systems nothing can go wrong....go wrong....go wrong. Just kidding, this is amazing.
Fewer things will go wrong with an automated system than with a dead pilot at the helm.
I'm a heavy truck / lorry driver and there's been talks about autonomous trucks putting us out of work. While new trucks have lots of safety features like ABS, traction control, backup cameras, & lane departure alarms, a well seasoned driver can operate a modern truck without all the modern bells and whistles. I highly doubt that an autonomous truck can run a load over a mountain pass during a winter storm. It's always best to keep humans in the loop.
Autonomous trucks will get there eventually, it's just a question of when.
Oh boi The new boeing 737 max software update looks good
Not even funny.
@@kennethhoffman8845 do you know what volunteer means?
Cirrus vision jet also has a parachute! This makes it unique aircraft with 2 emergency landing systems. Even if Garmin fails, last resort: you pull the parachute handle. Kind of a redundancy as well.
A parachute for the occupants, or the whole plane?
@@InventorZahran whole plane
Petter, great video as always! One thing only- the picture is too dark, a camera needs some adjustment ;-)
Let's face it, the technology exists to have pilotless planes. The problem is that pilot unions don't want job losses. And passengers and the public are fearful of computerization. However, if the will is there, it can be done.
Next they're going to replace passengers aren't they
Ahahahahaa
Pretty neat innovation that could be an option for new aircraft. I can't imagine how much a retrofit would cost to install this system that would only be used in an extraordinary situation. I prefer having a human up front, but a system like this could have prevented Airport 75 and the really awful Airport 77..
Thanks for that. Clearly a fantastic system. I watched the Garmin video and I was wondering if atc can notify the autoland that a runway is not available due, for example, to an aircraft stuck on the runway and that it needs to divert ?
I think being an emergency system means, when activated, you're the king in the sky, ATC has to clear everyone out of your way, and you (the system) pick whatever runway you want. That is a huge simplification for the AI compared to having to deal with day-to-day conversation (verbal or digital) with the ATC and obeying their instructions.
"That is a huge simplification for the AI compared to having to deal with day-to-day conversation (verbal or digital) with the ATC and obeying their instructions."
I not see any problems in make the aircraft to "obey" digital transmitted commands like change direction to xxx, change altitude to xxx etc.
He mentour is it safe to become an airline pilot and have a full career if you are starting pilot school in 3 years
The only question here, will it work all around the world or only in USA? It is unclear from all promotions videos I have seen. Btw I am also very impressed with the idea of this emergency solution.
The pilot factor will take almost never to be removed from the commercial aviation equation, we already have autoland capabilities for a long time and yet the pilots haven't been removed from the aircrafts...Also, an aircraft without a pilot in is a drone, simple as that.
They will *NOT* be removed ever. Take the almost out of there only dumb people question this.
An aircraft without a pilot is *not* necessarily a drone.
Cambridge dictionary: "an aircraft that does not have a pilot but is *controlled by someone on the ground* "
Wiki UAV: "An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) ( [...] commonly known as a drone) is an aircraft without a human pilot on board and a type of unmanned vehicle. UAVs are a component of an unmanned aircraft system (UAS); which include a UAV, *a ground-based controller* , and a system of communications between the two."
@@microRiZu never say never... Autopilot systems are coming to cars... once drivers are completly removed from the streets it will be just a matter of time before they bring it to aircraft, but they will probably have a remote control manual override incase of a emergency... like the current drones are being flown... The 1st AutoLand system only came to commercial aviation in 1964 (51 years ago), and we started flying in 1903 (116 years ago). a lot can still change in the next 200 years. We cant say what the future holds based on our limited time we have witnessed aviation and AI develop.
And having pilots at least remote control a plane also takes away the suicidal pilot risks.
@@Jehty_ if the communication fails this system is failed proven by faa
drones have pilots running them too. only possible case of pilots getting removed is having an ai that's so reliable and intelligent enough to handle an AI failure. lol
Great video. I don't think it will possible even in the far future the plane could fly autonomous, without some assistance. For instance, I don't know whether or not this Garmin system can be updated during a flight?! To change a course, altitude and even airport you have to know a lots of information, NOTAM primarily. What if the TRA is activated on the route chosen by the Garmin or the alternative airport is closed or something like that?! Who will add this info to auto land system and how? It's a very nice feature that makes planes more safer and another redundancy to safe the lives on board of plane. Maybe some day in the fare future but for now pilots will be those guys we adore and we put all of our hopes into their skills and "human" sense.
This kind of automatization scares the crap out of me... I agree, it is good to have just in case the pilot is no longer able to fly the machine, but otherwise I really enjoy knowing that a highly trained human being is in the cockpit and is taking care that everyone is safe.
But it could be the first step towards the single pilot operations in larger aircrafts?
this would be another kind of landing procedure. "press the button and take a nap"! :)
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks a lot.
I recently read about this technology. Currently offered in two types of highly advanced airplanes, imagine the day a similar system can be integrated into a Cessna 172 or Piper Cherokee. I often wonder what GA aircraft will be like fifty years from now. The Jetsons perhaps ?
Voyager's EMH was an emergency program but look how far it went...
As always, very interesting video. I am wondering how ATC would be connected with that system and what would be standard procedures in a case that red button is activated?
Amazing technology!
Thanks for your great explanation.
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- Mike
Aah i cant wait to go to the FAA to get my instrument monitor license xD
Would it be possible to use very high pressure system to rotate the engines in order to power future aircraft worth a look into ?
That system is amazing.
I think Its great that we have something like this. I love having pilots but this is just amazing, like for my part i want planes to be Abel to fly and land themselves completely if like a pilot incident happens but i like to have pilots flying i just think this is a must have
I think that is the same company that makes the in reach emergency beacon in case you get lost in the wilderness, they are on their game these days it looks like.
IIRC, Trimble beat them to that.
yeah idk. I always see people wearing those In reach devices while hiking clipped to the shoulder strap to send satellite texts or for emergency location for a piece of mind. I know nothing about the companies, just surprised to hear the name applied to this scenario to land planes.
@@toolhog10 It was DeLorme. They were bought out by Garmin a year and a half ago. They had come out with a super fancy GPS unit that could use satellite and aerial photography as map overlays that was all the rage with geocachers quite a few years (10?) ago. The PN-40 and -60. Their previous thing was the satellite rescue devices that posted breadcrumbs to a website and had a panic button that worked like an ELT transmitter. They had, like Trimble, let their consumer devices become horrifically outdated and obsolete. Trimble doesn't do anything but pro stuff now.
I'm thinking that on aircraft with less automation you could have it explain to the passenger how to press the brakes, set flaps etc.
US military planes have been doing this over 30 years, even on aircraft carriers.
The only thing I thought could be a problem is if the pilot was incapacitated and slumped over on the controls.
The other is a front seat or rear seat passenger that starts frantically to manipulate the controls. Just guessing of course. Im sure it will also rule out an airport where the crosswind component exceeds the max of the AC. If it was FBW then on the SF system the passenger's inputs would be overridden by the AP.
Cool stuff though. I imagine it Lowers hull insurance.
No worry for me purchasing...I could afford a nose wheel tire and get points on my DISCOVER card...that's it.
I did a 360° overhead years ago in a Piper Lance straight leg. Blew a right main tire and that was costly enough!
The "break" is your on final approach at pattern altitude and over the numbers you break to the left or right...while in the turn gear out...flaps at max ext speed and then aim for the numbers. A military pilot friend showed me how to do it first in an old Piper Apache he was getting his MEI in.
Lots of fun! Even the controlled airports would let me do it traffic permitting. Try it! I used to do them all the time at KSJC. Most of my students loved it.
As soon as I pressed the button, a sign came on that said "Please do not press the button again"
Is it able to detect/handle sudden decompression and initiate an emergency decent if necessary? If it is not capable of that (which seems to be among the kinds of situations for which this system is intended), it makes no sense to land a plane full of dead passengers when such can be otherwise avoided.
This technology would be great to have for cases like the Helios accident and other rogue aircraft cases
While this is a very limited example, it shows greater automation is possible. Progress marches on and eventually we'll have large, completely automated commercial airliners.
The TriStar was able to takeoff and land itself before Garmin 😉