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[HSR] : 1.6 Memory of Chaos 12 - No 5 STAR | Qingque Luka & Xueyi Hypercarry 3* Clear!!
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Honkai Star Rail : New 1.6 Memory of Chaos Floor 12 No 5 Star Challenge Character No Gacha 5 Star Lightcone, Qingque, Luka & Xueyi 3* Clear!! in Memory of chaos 12 Endgame with no 5* Character and 5* Gacha Lightcone used! Only herta LC allowed!
This is my attempt to "go as lowest budget as possible" to clear Memory of Chaos floor 12 with full star!!
#memoryofchaos #honkaistarrail #qingque #xueyi #guide #luka #asta #trailblazer #march7th #forgottenhall #starrail #moc #tingyun #honkaistarrailguide #honkaistarrailgameplay #no5 #f2p #free2play #freetoplay #hoyocreators #青雀 #素裳 #盧卡 #崩壞星穹鐵道 #星穹鐵道
Honkai Star rail Memory of Chaos Floor 12 Featuring March7th, Asta, Luka, Qingque, Lynx, Pela, Tingyun, Xueyi
Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section :D
Timestamps
0:00 First Half 1st wave
3:14 First Half 2nd wave
8:10 Second Half 1st wave
10:24 Second Half 2nd wave
14:18 Characters & Stats showcase
Software used :
- Nvidia Shadowplay for recording
- Adobe Premiere Pro 2024
- ReelSmart Motion Blur Plugin
- Adobe Illustrator Pro 2024
Diff Spike
Difficulty Spike
Starrail
Honkai star rail
Memory of Chaos
Enigma in Deep Space (XIII)
True sting boss
swarm disaster
Shapeshifter
Kafka
Stellaron Hunter : Kafka
Mara struck
The Ascended
Forgotten Hall
Lynx Landau
Xueyi
Luka
Pela
Pelageya Sergeyevna
Qingque
Tingyun
Evilyun
Asta
March7th
No 5 star
No Limited character
Xianzhou Luofu
Memory of Xianzhou
no Natasha
no Bailu
no Gepard
no Clara
no Bronya
no Silverwolf
no welt
no Seele
no Jingyuan
no Himeko
no Fuxuan
no Luocha
no Huohuo
no Topaz
Hunt
Erudition
Abundance
Nihility
Harmony
崩坏：星穹铁道
New Character
Ruanmei & Dr.Ratio
Similar Scenes Gameplay
All Characters Ultimate & Combat Skills Showcase
![[HSR] : 1.6.2 Memory of Chaos 12 - No 5 STAR No Healer | Xueyi & Luka Sushang 3* Clear!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MVphYYacC4s/mqdefault.jpg)
![[HSR] : 1.6.2 Memory of Chaos 12 - No 5 STAR No Healer | Xueyi & Luka Sushang 3* Clear!!](/img/tr.png)
![[HSR] : 1.6 Memory of Chaos 12 - No 5 STAR No Healer | Sampo Luka & Xueyi Hypercarry 3* Clear!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cGHjstT-XxU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[HSR] : NEW 1.5 Memory of Chaos Floor 10 - NO 5 STAR NO HEALER | Sushang, Luka & Qingque 3* Clear!!](/img/1.gif)
The walkthrough might be a bit short since I got a flu and my mind is pretty fuzzy, sorry about that
MVI's Sampo and Herta variant here : ruclips.net/video/Q9xn-tPN66U/видео.html
Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section below!
Timestamps
0:00 First Half 1st wave
3:14 First Half 2nd wave
8:10 Second Half 1st wave
10:24 Second Half 2nd wave
14:18 Characters & Stats showcase
I love how you explain your thought process the whole fight, very useful and very informative. Xueyi looks amazing, i'm glad she's good
Glad you enjoy it and yeah, she's really good!
I just hate that Eidolons heavily impact her gameplay as ive managed to pull as much as E0 after 100+ pulls
@@BenganGamer I get that, to be fair not many 4* characters have eidolons as good as hers, and unfortunately its all up to luck if you get them or not
@@crubat9429 my new 4 star luck is shit in general ended up with E0 Lynx with 21 4 stars pulled, E0 Hanya after 11 4 stars, E0 Xueyi after 15 4 stars. its miserable, however my 5 star luck has instead been insane so its a duality il take i guess.
@@BenganGamer If your 5 star luck is insane then I think it is better for you. 5 star in this game is really strong even at E0S0.
First video of you I’ve seen and I’m impressed. There are so many showcases on YT, but not a lot where the CC explains what they do and why, both during the fight and the builds. That helps so much, keep up the good work! 👏
Glad you like it and thanks for watching!
Bro this is the single most stunning MOC clear I've ever seen. Definitely earned a sub. Keep up the good work!
You haven't see the no healer run stun yet haha! Thanks mate!
Runs like these make me really appreciate how much thought and strategy you have to put on these levels other than the builds. Makes me want to try again with achieving 3-stars on levels 8 and above.
Keep going man you can do it!
Great run! Nice duo dps first half! I did try Asta but she doesn’t go too well with solo damage dealer. Also Xueyi is looking insane, her normal, skill, ult, follow up, and quantum break all deal good damage
Yeah she's really good for double dps, most solo dps would want tingyun instead haha!
Very impressive, as someone who's missing the 3 stars by a turn with very cracked 5* team, I don't know if I must be impressed by your performance or ashamed of myself xD
Maybe It's a speed tuning and MoC buff usage / rng / relic - Don't worry you have a whole month to 3* it!
His relics so good so you would finish within 5-7 cycles with your 5* chars if had same relics
@@RuriGoko Ahah ! Well, I've 3* it, took a lot of fuel to get my Seele (which is the DPS of my Mono Quantum team) a good ratio of 73 CR and 175 CDMG, and I did it.
But I also had to use the MoC buff a lot, only thing I'm not quite used yet is the speed tuning tho
Instant subscribe from me. I just came back to the game and seeing your thought process is so helpful to learn the endgame mechanics! Great vid :)
Thanks for subscribing! and Hope my tip helps!
I got E4 Xueyi and I hope it’s enough! Didn’t finish her build yet. But what I’m really jealous of is your Xueyi build! What the hell those stats xD
Amazing run btw!
#DefinitelynotaquantummainxD
E4 is more than enough on xueyi, especially if you play her with ruan mei ofc!
ah yes xueyi, thx for bringing her this time lol, as always great explanation and helpful it gives me rough idea how to build and use xueyi, tho i tought xueyi only need break effect sub stat, looks like cr cdmg is also nescesary huh? keep the awesome f2p gameplay! XD ngl this is going to be my refrence clearing MoC with my f2p units
Xueyi is actually a mixed Dps unit, roughly 40% from basic/skill/ult, 20% from break, 30% from quantum entanglement. So yes you want to build her as a hybrid. Be rope, atk orb, crit sub is the way to go!
Good luck on your run!
you open my eyes that you dont need 5* to clear content in HSR! this is very impressive!
thank you!!! the text explanations are extremely helpful
Glad my explanation helps!
this is so impressive, keep up the good work
Thanks mate!
E6 Xueyi? Hey, give me at least two more eidolons! 😭
Give me your hanya then hahaha. Mfw 160 pull E1 Hanya...
@@RuriGoko my Hanya E0. Leave me at least this. 😐
@@mvi_lab ok I take it back, go pull more rm then E1-2 buff kafka a lot.
Lol I m 100 pulls in and no xuey yet 😅😅
@@ggb999 ‘faint’ hope she come home soon bro!
Wow, this walkthrough s awesome, love every second of it! I've been cheering for QQ and Asta when they got so beat up haha
Thank you so much for all your explanations, it really makes me look at all the builds and strategies in the new light 👍
I'm absolutely grateful with your video, I didn't know how to beat MoC12 even with Dan Heng IL and Jingliu, but your video change my vision and now I did it, thank you so much. 😢🙏
Glad you did it!
Nice clear, just wanna say that you can use the keyboard(W and D to choose a target, E for skill, their number for ultimate, Q to normal atk and space bar to confirm an attack(or just double press either Q or E).
Normally I would use the keyboard to play when I'm chillin' But this MoC is so hard that I have to think a lot (and subconsciously use a mouse to play hahaha)
@@RuriGoko fair enough haha
The explanations are godsend. Thank you for your effort.
Glad you like it!
Man thank you for ur gameplay, You explain everything and i realise that i build my xueyi with wrong set and i should put some speed boots to almost everyone, and thats mostly why i havent managed to get faster than 12 turns right now
Balancing between your speed and your DPS potential is the key to faster clear!
especially on support - more turn = more SP = more skill = More ult!
@@RuriGoko welp, just managed to clear the 3 stars for floor 12, changed quite a few things thanks to you, wish you a good year.
love your videos!! i love reading your commentaries every time
Glad you love it :D
I'm a simple guy I see Luka I click
Great clear here! I'm struggling with getting 3stars rn (I keep clearing at 19 cycles ;-;) and I'm using Jingliu, so I'm feeling pretty inadequate watching this lol
Hope you get your star soon!
First Excellent sir !!!👏👏👏
This guy is actually the fast hahaha!
Thank you so much for your explanations! I feel so ashamed that I can't finish the MOC with 36 stars using 5-star characters while someone else can do it with only 4-star characters🤧. But such videos are very helpful
Feeling ashamed is unnecessary. It’s simply a difference in experience and amount of attempts done. Everyone plays the game their own way, so I’d recommend not looking at videos like this to demean your own progress, but rather to understand different ways to work towards the same goal.
@@Glast04 Protagonist energy right here.
"8% dmg reduction is equal to 1k def btw" just casually breaking my understanding of the game
As someone who cleared 11 with a Pela basic I can say how anticlimactic it feels after struggling so hard xD
hahaha pela pewpew bug explode xD
Amazinggg video mate!
This was really fun to watch!
Thanks! :D
Cheff kiss
These relics are crazy, gj man
Thanks mate!
.This video is so useful! Thank you!
Thanks :D
Amazing clear
Thanks mate!
no wonder i am struggling with moc 12, i completely ignored the moc buff and was just trying to brute force it
Hope you clear it soon!
TIL 4pc guard underrated
Praise be this vid for reminding me that Luka exists and can remove buffs
Made it to 36/36 😩🙏
im at MoC 9 the highest i ever been , got deleted on MoC 10
how many attempts/ how long did you spend resetting lol
amazing job🎉
First half around 2-3 hours i guess? Sometime they just die or I just misplayed here and there.
Second half, I actually got a 4 cycle run in first time, but was malding for 3 cycle run for like 4 hours? Before I eventually give up lmao, it was close tho.
its still so weird to see people use mouse crossair to use skill and ulti since day 1, I always used to 1 2 3 4 and Q and E + space to attack
was pretty nervous doing this so, old habit dies hard xD
ik Xueyi will hit like a truck!! Congratz
I can only get her E0 at 130 TT_TT if I could take at least E2, my moc12 bottom team will be like yours
Actually you can use her at E0, but you might have to adjust a bit on first wave, second wave need to hit side bug instead and let main bug eats the moc blessing. Or you can use ruanmei with her and enjoy pseudo E6 xueyi experience.
Xueyi is a hidden 5 star confirmed btw I'm still building her her level and light cone is maxed but I gotta fix her relics
Just got two stars a little bit a ago. Nice work, might try this!
Good luck malding bro!
I've been struggling to full star 12, and I think Xueyi might be the key. Gonna start building her tomorrow!
If you do have her at least E1-2 then yes do it! Pair her with Duane I instead of pela and you’re good to go!
dang bro. i cant 3 star with my 5 star characters :( great clear tho
Thanks mate!
🙏 now I know that I have skill issue… I can’t 3 star MOC 12 with 5 stars. Great run, well done!
Hope you get your 3 star soon!
Wait, the 4pc "Guard of Wuthering Snow" restores both HP and energy?! I guess I will need to re-build my supports... Do you have a general clue on when to use this set on support characters?
The 2-pc is good on nearly every character that isn’t a dps. The damage reduction is huge.
as zaxton said - 2pcs is really good on every support unit since DMG reduction is huge. 4pcs is a bit niche since you need to be
impressive run!
Thanks!
Your skills are remarkable madam faruzan💝😭
Thanks mate!
@@RuriGoko btw is it important to have 140+ SPD cuz you've that with everyone?
@@bunny7.10 My baseline is around 143 spd except DPS, DPS just go as fast as possible without losing damage (see xueyi not even 134 sadge)
Huh... well time to farm the guard set I guess, really eye-opening how much of a difference it makes, only supports I have with similar tankiness have like 2 Def main stats relics.
I would suggest you farm for quantum set but don't trash the guard piece, especially one with support stat and speed! and yes 8% DMG reduction is roughly equal to 1000 def on character btw.
Man… good job getting hanya at least😭, I pulled ~170 and I STILL never got her, but Xueyi is already E2 at 40 pulls.
Hey at least congrats on Xueyi pulls bro!
Nice Guide man
Hope it helps!
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This video convinced me not to trash my guard relics lol
Do not trash it bro hahaha, even 2pcs is super strong!
new weejio les goooooo! Xueyi and Qingquelion dmg!!! she doesnt smoge
You really loves Qingquellion dmg hahaha, except this time she deal like.. low damage hahaha
@@RuriGoko can we calculate how many dmg 1 stack of entanglement does?
@@rineqe The formula is pretty long
entanglement base damage is = 0.6 x Stack count x Level multiplier (3767.5533 at level 80) x Max toughness multipler
Then use that sum here
DMG = (1+BE) x Base damage x Def multipler x Res multipler x Vulnerability multiplier x Broken Multipler
The easiest way it to go in once and observe your entanglement damage tbh
@@RuriGoko noted, thanks for explaining
Wish i got more than just 1 Xueyi from 100 pulls. that damage is amazing on her!
Hope you get her more soon!
Your xueyi hits harder than my jingliu 🗿
You can imagine how hard my jingliu hits xD
question what does ads mean here? in any case this is such an informwtive video!!!
It means mara struck soldier, like I woudl call small enemy on field that is not important to target as ads.
E6 Xueyi, I wish I can get her soon. I pulled 230 tickets to get her E6, im still at E5 and got 2 Ruan mei's and 1 Welt in the meantime. It took me 70 pulls to get Xueyi for the first time btw, I got Ruan Mei before her lmao
don't worry bro, I got argenti before hanya as well sadge. Hope you reach E6 on xueyi soon!
At 11:55, you wrote "Stack up quantum entanglement" - what does that mean? Attack with quantum characters while the enemy is in the entangled state as frequently as possible?
Pretty much, but it can be any character. It doesn’t have to just be quantum char. Each hit boosts the damage the enemy will take when entangle expires, up to 5 stacks (the blue ! icon)
Do you actually need 2.8k ATK on Tingyun? 2.1k would already cap out the ATK buff for your Xueyi, since her base ATK is 1128. You could actually drop both ATK mainstat body and orb on Tingyun and still have over 2k ATK, letting you run HP/DEF pieces instead.
True, I can drop her ATK down and go for more tanky stat if she is dying. The exact efficient number for Tingyun's ATK for Xueyi is 2298 btw, but Thanks! (her basic attack hit hard tho. So If I'm not dying I would go as much atk as possible just for that. it save me from not killing something with 1 HP)
@@RuriGoko her basic hits hard because of her talent because it scales with the buffed ally's attack and damage bonus and also crit which pairs insanely well with Xueyi since she converts break effect to all damage bonus not just quantum which means she also gets lightning damage bonus, Tingyun basically becomes a sub dps when paired with her lmao. This also works for the second part of Tingyun's skill, you can see here 9:12 Xueyi doing additional13k lighting dmg for the same reason
maybe the people who said to just farm quantum relics were right all along
That statement holds true - until HYV decide to release strong relic set that is more universal than this.
I was wondering why Qingque would be in the first half, but then I remembered the Disciple's minions have Quantum weakness.
Amazing run, but what the hell E6 Xueyi!
Now I want to build March 7th because no matter the 4* run I watch, she's always there. I can also use her for Mono Ice team I guess (with Pela, Ruan Mei, and Jingliu).
She really loves me hahahaha, With E0 xueyi I probably have to use full 10 cycles quota but oh well.
I don't really want to do sampo or danhang (since there's people already did that) so QQ was the third best option there.
Build up your march7th bro!
I have Xueyi E2 and QQ E6. Dont have Seele and I need a Quantum dmg dealer. Who do you think is better choice. I love the fact that Xueyi can be more consistent. But yours is E6
Both excels in different scenario, and depends on what playstyle you want.
Will you pull Hanabi/Sparkle? QQ would works with her better than Xueyi. Also QQ is easier to gear since she takes standard DPS build.
My best advice is for you to farm the quantum domain and planar first, see where the relic goes. then choose later between those two. if you need quantum for MoC, you still have a month to decide!
Bruuh Xueyi won't just show up in my warps 😭 if got like 2 lightcones and the other ones
I hope you get her soon! maybe boom E1 xueyi then you're gucci!
Im so jealous of your xueyi.
I can only get her to E1
She's around 15-18% weaker at E0 (depends on the build), but she's undoubtedly playable! Anyway I hope you get more of her copy soon!
Does shared feeling LC on full ER Lynx provides more energy to all teammates? Because I'm thinking about using that in my Clara team.
Hmm, Idk about Full er lynx, but shared feeling does give energy to everyone in team when you use skill.
I'm sorry for my poor English😢. In 0:25 , what's the "ads" means，is it a term referring to "mara-struck soldiers"？
Yeah, “ads” refer to small enemies summoned by a boss enemy.
ads is mara soldiers, Sorry for the confusion!
@@RuriGoko Thanks, I've learned a lot from your vedio released on Bilibili❤️
@@zaxtonhong3958Thanks for your explaination
when kafka detained asta, u could have shielded her with march, the sheild removes debuffs
Now this is a good point, I do explain on why I did not cleanse asta with M7.
Here a quiz! What can happen if I decide to shield Asta instead?
Kinda insane, I see so many showcases of MOC 12.
But they are either with Fu Xan or JIngliu, which I dont have or with 4 stars, where I need perfect rotation and great relics.
Hmm how do I clear this?
All of my 4 stars are literally lv 80 and almost max traces
You can do it! - Now it's speed tuning time!
What's better lc for pela?, Luka's lc or the free sw lc in the event? Im using Jingliu comp on her
Free SW LC is better if you can kill really fast and Pela cannot get her ult up in time for next enemy - Luka's LC is better if you need more damage dealt! - it depends on how hard can your jingliu hits ; you porbably have to test it by yourself on your acc to decided!
Worth farm quantum set to any DPS character? noted u have tons of it
If we're in 1.0 - yeah. It is the best universal set in that time.
For now, if you're completely blind about relics, I would recommend you to do
- 1 run in quantum per day
- 1 run in new Dr.ratio set per day
- 3 su run per week (collect the reward 12 times)
The rest goes to mat farming and character building until your roster trace and level is fully functional and you're happy with that, then you can start to go for other set to min-max things.
If you're curious on how to manage the relic into each char.
- dot unit can unit 2 atk (musketeer which you get every week from echo of war) + 2 pioneer set
- ratio, topaz can use 4pcs pioneer set
- all crit dps can go 4pcs quantum set or go 2 atk 2 debuff - even 4pcs pioneer works in certain situation
- support can go 4pcs guard set, hanya and rm can go 4pcs watchmaker set. If you're supporting Dot teams - 4pcs watchmaker set is a fantastic set.
Note that this is good for growing account. If you're already dominating the endgame content this farming route is probably not useful for you.
Man the banners just hate me with 4*. Last banner I got no hanyas in admittedly pretty few pulls because argenti came at 40 pity and I was already at 20 and now on Ruans banner I got her at 87 with 3 tingyuns and 4 march, as well as a hanya and a memories but no xueyi.
Hey at least your tingyun and march should be almost, If not E6 by now which is really strong!
@@RuriGoko both e7 I think, yep. Not too upset because tingyun is op and I like march and am hoping to build her at some point because of how much I undervalued her starting out since I got Gepard when she was (and still is) level 40.
@@RuriGoko not that her being level 40 stopped me from abusing her with 200+ ehr in g&g lol
how do you have so many guard sets with godlike substats!! teach me sensei
Well, I lose almost 100% of my luck from quantum set roll into guard set.. is a blessing and a curse at the same time haha ....
That domain is actually so good to farm, having quantum character means your supports don't have to die
6:05 Wasted Asta ult lmao. Can just use AA here
True. This one is just my brain goes pepega hahaha.
Seriously how do u make the animation become like this. I check all the setting to max yet dont have this blurry effect. It only appear when the those bugs got angry.
I use Reelsmart Motionblur Plugin for Premiere pro :D
bro what are your graphic settings they look so good??
- max setting on everything, render quality 1.4
- I use reelsmart motionblur plugin on editing, that's why it looks so smooth!
TY but how is ur computer not dying 💀@@RuriGoko
@@nicoledemaraa fun fact : It actually dies sometimes 💀and this is a i9 12 gen laptop btw.
@@RuriGoko oh nah mine wont survive those settrings then.
@@nicoledemaraa the in game setting is not a problem that one is easy. The problem is the reelsmart motion blur plugin - it took so much resource on rendering - normally I can render 20 min 2k clip in 45 sec -> with motion blur it took 3 hrs lmfao.
Ohhhhh , I want Xueyi E6 . but I got Tingyun E20 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dw My tingyun is beyond E10 long times ago hahaha
D...did xueyi basic attack for 58k damage??
Bug has vulnerabilty debuff and is def down hahaha
Do you think 2nd phase would be easier if i used SW instead of pela?
First wave would be easier because quantum implant, Second wave would be a bit tricky since SW is single target debuffer, and small bug have a lot of hp.
First wave would be easier due to quantum implant, Second wave will be a bit tricky since small bug have a lot of hp and sw only debuff 1 unit per action.
Wait did they change the healing guys buff? I remember it couldent be removed before
The buff was always removable from the start !
@@RuriGoko ic thats really good info to have, thx
This Xueyi has more consistent crits than my 95% CR Seele
If you watch carefully, 3 of my Ult doesn't crit which lose me a lot of damage lmao TT
what are your visual settings? your game is so smooth 😮
I use ReelSmart Motion Blur Plugin when editing in premiere pro. This is what make it looks so smooth (and also raise the rendering time from 30 sec to 3 hour lmao)
For in game settings - everything is maxed out on highest setting, Vsync : off, Rendering Quality : 1.4
@@RuriGoko that's awesome, thank you!!
In the first half, wouldn't it be better to use Pela?
well not really, Asta speed buff helps on both damage and survivability on the team (turn cycling) in normal setup with strong sustain then maybe pela is better imo.
My Seele and SW cant clear True Sting with 6 cycle lmao. Definitely a skill issue on my part
Try tuning your unit up bro! in seele team most unit should be faster than a speed buffed seele to run consistently! good luck :D
how many attempts did it take?
I lost count, this one is probably.. 4-6 hours?
This video motivated me to keep building my Xueyi. I saw so many people say she was super bad and it was a bit unnerving, but seeing yours I know she has potential. Even tho my Xueyi e1 🥲🥲 I'll get more with time
She somehow perform a bit like Clara on the relic potential - Low floor High celling - if your relic is bad both of them does nothing, but If your relic reach the performance point they start shredding everything. Farming for her is good tho since you probably will get guard set and quantum set for other unit along the way!
Why exactly we need to use ATK sphere ?
Isn't DMG always the better choice considering how ele DMG multiplies ATK in the total damage formula,, as long as ATK value isn't too low (I assume 1800-2000 is still normal value where DMG still better than ATK)
Xueyi is different, Since Her A2 transition all her break effect into DMG%, This makes Xueyi have tons of DMG% (I mean 150-200% ish DMG% without quantum sphere) when calculate everything up, Quantum sphere actually deal 6% less damage compared to ATK% sphere.
for other DPS you will most likely need a DMG% sphere btw. (maybe except seele when paired with bronya, with permanent passive uptime. there's ATK% orb on that as well since it deal more damage if you are sure that you can keep the killing passive up)
Hmmm, I still don't get when ele DMG starts to fall short, I get how important DMG sphere for other chara as 0 to 38-50 ele DMG is a huge difference, but doesnt every percent from 50-200 and so on holds the same value, and as the previous argument, doesnt that mean as long as ATK counted earlier in the formula, ele DMG will always be better
Honestly though, Im content with the answer since you have actually tried both, nothing beats actual practice after all. Just can you say that IF, say, +15 sphere atk is 38.6% and +15 sphere ele dmg is 38.6% using ele dmg sphere will be better
Also sorry for the long question lol, math not my forte 😔
@@markomar8924 Well this is actually math based, Xueyi herself have too much dmg%, and too little attack. If one day we somehow can make her at 3.5k atk with same other stat, then quantum sphere might works (with 1.1 base atk it is sad tho)
and If 38.6% to 38.6% then yes, dmg% is better (but atk orb is 43.2% so)
it is fine, we learn new things everyday!
Fully understood now, thanks big man, also get well soon 🙏
This game is stressing me out so much.. I can't even get full stars on 9 and 10, can't clear 11 I had to give up
I just dont understand why the ennemies are so tanky and suddently all my chars are unable to do it despite having good and correctly built chars
Also the elements are pure pain there's some parts I have nothing matching it
Maybe what you need is silverwolf, or maybe rework your strategy
MoC these day actually stay for 40 days before reset, It's like working on a puzzle. If you can't beat it. back to farming, change your strategy, Then you'll be able to beat it slowly!
Sometimes correct build is not always a right answer. see luka qq, who would run them on guard set lol. but if it wasn't for guard set I probably never clear this.
@@RuriGoko fun fact I have SW but can't run her at all, as soon as I do my sp consumption either skyrocket or she doesnt use her skill and then doesnt really help much
And as a Seele+Bronya user.. using skill on them all the time.. + Fu.. SW just can't use a skill or suddently there is no sp left and the whole strategy fall appart
Have to add that I ABSOLUTLY HATE to use normal attack on Bronya, her speed make her go after my Seele all the time so that Seele get double the number of turns without changing the order she play, but as soon as Bronya uses a normal attack (I havent even upgraded her talent) it makes her play before Seele next and ruin the whole combo, especialy on some levels where ennemies can slow your team so that it delays more
I used to be able to do moc with some efforts but that one.. can't do 9 and 10 anymore thats frustrating
Lacking dmg and the right elements make it unbeatable to me
@@Lew98765 For first adjustment. If you cannot gear a super fast bronya for BSBSBS combo, try normal attack more on seele. Her skill buff stay for 2 turns, means you have to skill only once every 2 turn to keep the rotation going.
Everytime you kill with seele and get extra action. normal attack only, do not skill mindlessly. now you'll suddenly have enough SP for your whole team.
silverwolf also need to skill only when needed. do not skill mindlessly.
@@RuriGoko I could make bronya super fast I just dont want to cause I dont get the point, advancing a turn of a char who's about to play just delay his next action, while if the char already played I can keep repeating the order wherever its Seele or blade or else
I've read countless guide but it just turned bronya into a headache I have no idea how I should play her really.. having her to play after my dps felt correct, giving a turn to a char who's about to play feels so wrong feels like wasting ever more sp because she isn't actualy giving turns just giving her buff
I wish I could use normal attack on Seele more often but they barely deal dmg my Seele can't use rutillant, I have no good rutillant yet despite farming, I also have a good herta space station set with good crit dmg, and last I didnt have the crit rate before as I used to run an S5 swordolay, I switched for the Su hunt cone but now Seele feels pretty underwhelming
Very stressing game
@@Lew98765 hmm, Because that team is capped by skill point. seele even without rutilnent set is still worth to do normal attack tbh. a super fast bronya make it so when you go into the fight. bronya can alternate between basic attack and skill. this will make seele move 25% less time, but you will have more skill point to use for the whole team (bronya will become sp neutral unit) plus you will get more Ult uptime from bronya (since she move more, she can generate more energy)
If you can make bronya at least 160 speed or more, max out your passive skill and play exactly like this
- Bronya normal attack
- Seele skill, if it kill you normal attack
- Bronya skill on seele
- Seele normal attack
Repeat this process over and over and you'll understand.
I must not understand the game because you took like 500 turns before the turn ended
Tingyun Dance dance dance make side 2 move a lot from AV manipulation
Asta speed buff give whopping 50 speed , make your team also move a lot.
speed is king in turn based game!
can u help me?!
If you mean help on MoC, I still not accept clear for now (maybe If I stream one day?) but you can definitely share your box and ask my opinion. pretty sure that can help!
or join ken/s discord ch, I mostly stay there since I do not have my own discord server!
@@RuriGoko Do you have Discord or Facebook or anything so I can send you a picture of my team?
@@Mohmad-gn5bl you can find me in here discord.gg/R6gBy6uMU8
Ah you must be the one who put "too easy" on survey 😏
I actually put ok in survey - not too easy for sure lol.
youre a fucking magician
how did you do moc 11?
Should I post it hahaha. I can do 4 star run too.
this is amazing but also xueyi is new release in 1.6, how is her e6 budget 🫠🫠🫠