When ocher comes into contact with iron objects, for example, when working with a palette knife (rubbing or applying paint), some of its greening may be caused.
Yellow ochre is priceless to me in sunset paintings and sunny washes to start a picture with! Yellow ochre can be found here and there in my part of the world too. But I usually find more reds than yellows though :( Mixing Yellow ochre with Prussian blue or Ultramarine blue can make some great greens too! Thank you for the tips Jeremy on separating the colors all mixed together in stones!!! Fantastic information!!!
Thanks for a great instruction video. We have an old Ochre mine near here (near the Albir Lighthouse, in Spain). My son and I collected some nice red rocks and some darker yellows. Ive hammered one of the chunks and was wondering how to continue.. Now i Know.. As a watercolour painter it will be nice to add some paint Ive made myself. All I need now is a simple binder recipe....
I'm in the U.S.A., in the state of Maryland. I have been collecting some soft rock from areas that use them as drainage on parking areas. They all have in common the fact that if I rub them against a hard rock they leave a powdery trail. I have "yellow ochre and some variations of it. Also grey and shiny ones, and reddish too. I just don't know how to name them. Do you have a source that can be used to learn the different ochre colors correctly?
Thanks a lot, I am discovering this world and just after pausing the video, I just picked some rocks in a river close to where I live. The first one is in the coffee filter… It seems to work good ! and I am grinding the second one…. I just subscribe to your Channel
I personally love to go hunting around Steiglitz for an almost lemon yellow ochre - there's an abandoned quarry just off the main road between there and Maude that has loads of it. Would definitely recommend having a look around if you have the chance (go in the winter though to avoid the snakes). Being in Ballarat, I assume you know Steiglitz? Also, if you want beautiful dark red ochre, the coastal cliffs between Torquay and Anglesea are the places to go. You find little pebbles of it in the fallen mud, no need to go digging in the cliffs. There's manganese a plenty there too with the occasional bit of mica.
How were the ocre paints made, that were used for prehistoric cave paintings? Are the Aboriginal ocre paints made the same way as way back then? How lightfast are these paints from grinded stones?
Ochre used traditionally by Aboriginal people was mixed with water and tree sap even native honey. It was grounded and painted with but as such paintings have faded over time. They would have been retouched or painted over but now as a lot are protected they are sadly fading with time. Hopefully the mobs can start to be able to touch them up so they last for generations more.
I recently made a video on making yellow ochre oil paint. After the whole process, the ochre yellow oil paint seems to change color. More of a Raw siena. But the shels I picked up was quite bright yellow. I was very disappointed. I used cold press linseed oil only. I have also realized that the tinting strength with white wasn't that strong. Do you think I might have done something wrong.
I just finished watching your video. You didn't do anything wrong in your process. I think the ochre you started with was a bit lacking in colour, I have had this happen a lot where it looks good when you find it but after processing the colour is rather weak. I have found that sourcing the best ochre that you can find it worth the effort. Look for deeper and darker colour as this will be more pure iron oxides and less clay / sand impurities.
@@TheAlchemicalArts thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it. I have recently noticed that when mixing the pigment and oil with a pallet knife, the saturation is quite hight. But the more I mill it with the glass miller and the more pigment I add, the darker and greenish it becomes. It really seems like it doesn't want to be disturbed to much. It is still in the yellow ochre range though. It doesn't seem like it wants to be disturbed to much. Maybe this is just the property of this particular ochre. I have also noticed that the pigment take ages to dry... is that because of its pureness? Todays oil paint takes about a day or two to be touch dry. I love what you do. And I will be learning from your videos.
Your shells looks harder then the once I picked up. I made a video on making my own yellow ochre, but my shells looked very much softer then yours. I also picked mine up next to a road. I do think mine might be more of a Siena but I am not a hundred percent sure. Do you think there is a way to test it.
Non so se è realmente possibile ma vorrei sapere se si può creare l’ocra gialla in maniera artificiale. Mi farebbe molto piacere se mi riuscissi a rispondere. In alternativa se non è possibile mi farebbe piacere sapere dove l’hai reperita quell’ocra gialla minerale
When ocher comes into contact with iron objects, for example, when working with a palette knife (rubbing or applying paint), some of its greening may be caused.
The colour on the filter paper was such a bright yellow! It would be interesting to see what it looks like as a watercolour.
Yellow ochre is priceless to me in sunset paintings and sunny washes to start a picture with! Yellow ochre can be found here and there in my part of the world too. But I usually find more reds than yellows though :( Mixing Yellow ochre with Prussian blue or Ultramarine blue can make some great greens too! Thank you for the tips Jeremy on separating the colors all mixed together in stones!!! Fantastic information!!!
Thanks for a beautiful informative teaching video. Lovely color to work with and a basic in all palettes. Inspired to try making my own.
Beautiful to watch!
Thanks for a great instruction video. We have an old Ochre mine near here (near the Albir Lighthouse, in Spain). My son and I collected some nice red rocks and some darker yellows. Ive hammered one of the chunks and was wondering how to continue.. Now i Know.. As a watercolour painter it will be nice to add some paint Ive made myself. All I need now is a simple binder recipe....
This is fantastic! I'm looking forward to processing my lode into a usable product!
I'm in the U.S.A., in the state of Maryland. I have been collecting some soft rock from areas that use them as drainage on parking areas. They all have in common the fact that if I rub them against a hard rock they leave a powdery trail. I have "yellow ochre and some variations of it. Also grey and shiny ones, and reddish too. I just don't know how to name them. Do you have a source that can be used to learn the different ochre colors correctly?
Thanks a lot, I am discovering this world and just after pausing the video, I just picked some rocks in a river close to where I live. The first one is in the coffee filter… It seems to work good ! and I am grinding the second one…. I just subscribe to your Channel
I have a great raw sienna dirt right outside my house, and a few minutes away, there's a nice rich red brown. Gotta look for purple next.
I personally love to go hunting around Steiglitz for an almost lemon yellow ochre - there's an abandoned quarry just off the main road between there and Maude that has loads of it. Would definitely recommend having a look around if you have the chance (go in the winter though to avoid the snakes). Being in Ballarat, I assume you know Steiglitz? Also, if you want beautiful dark red ochre, the coastal cliffs between Torquay and Anglesea are the places to go. You find little pebbles of it in the fallen mud, no need to go digging in the cliffs. There's manganese a plenty there too with the occasional bit of mica.
peace be upon you sir
My road cuts have beautiful arrays of ... gray, slightly different gray, sand, and gray :(
Thank you!
How were the ocre paints made, that were used for prehistoric cave paintings? Are the Aboriginal ocre paints made the same way as way back then? How lightfast are these paints from grinded stones?
Ochre used traditionally by Aboriginal people was mixed with water and tree sap even native honey. It was grounded and painted with but as such paintings have faded over time. They would have been retouched or painted over but now as a lot are protected they are sadly fading with time. Hopefully the mobs can start to be able to touch them up so they last for generations more.
would be a difference in grinding it with a muller and with a roller machine?
I recently made a video on making yellow ochre oil paint. After the whole process, the ochre yellow oil paint seems to change color. More of a Raw siena. But the shels I picked up was quite bright yellow. I was very disappointed. I used cold press linseed oil only. I have also realized that the tinting strength with white wasn't that strong. Do you think I might have done something wrong.
I just finished watching your video. You didn't do anything wrong in your process. I think the ochre you started with was a bit lacking in colour, I have had this happen a lot where it looks good when you find it but after processing the colour is rather weak. I have found that sourcing the best ochre that you can find it worth the effort. Look for deeper and darker colour as this will be more pure iron oxides and less clay / sand impurities.
@@TheAlchemicalArts thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it. I have recently noticed that when mixing the pigment and oil with a pallet knife, the saturation is quite hight. But the more I mill it with the glass miller and the more pigment I add, the darker and greenish it becomes. It really seems like it doesn't want to be disturbed to much.
It is still in the yellow ochre range though. It doesn't seem like it wants to be disturbed to much. Maybe this is just the property of this particular ochre.
I have also noticed that the pigment take ages to dry... is that because of its pureness? Todays oil paint takes about a day or two to be touch dry.
I love what you do. And I will be learning from your videos.
Didn't realize you ere active again until just now.
Can you guide me regarding the process of making Iron Oxide Yellow synthetically?
Your shells looks harder then the once I picked up. I made a video on making my own yellow ochre, but my shells looked very much softer then yours. I also picked mine up next to a road. I do think mine might be more of a Siena but I am not a hundred percent sure. Do you think there is a way to test it.
Non so se è realmente possibile ma vorrei sapere se si può creare l’ocra gialla in maniera artificiale. Mi farebbe molto piacere se mi riuscissi a rispondere. In alternativa se non è possibile mi farebbe piacere sapere dove l’hai reperita quell’ocra gialla minerale
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