Its just a shame that the gaming community as a whole is plagued with these cheaters who just ruin everyone else's experience. And the worst part is that there's pretty much no solution to the issue. Game devs can upgrade their ant-cheat system and ban as many hackers as they want, but there's always a small group of players who still cheat.
I make scripts and get paid for it. You do realize that even if they have a good anti cheat it will eventually get bypassed by people like me. So when they update after a week or so. So it’s almost impossible for them to completely stop cheating as a whole.
i like how you are blaming the hackers without mentioning that roblox has no anti cheat, i mean it does have one but its so bad a 2 year old baby could bypass it without spending a cent, and on top of that roblox dosent ban exploiters so there arent any consequences for cheating
@@jaythehooper8130 but why you create scripts for games instead of creating something by your own, like a game or idk. It's becouse off guys like you that most of the games are falling apart becouse of the scripts.
This video says exactly what I have been saying for months, there are so many people who use cheats like silent aim, esp, hitbox extender and such, yet very rarely do they get kicked because the average player just does not know what it looks like to use them. I could not be happier to have confirmation that I am not the only one who has noticed this, especially because these people not getting kicked has killed a lot of the enjoyment from the game because of how common they seemingly are. It feels as though every few rounds there's someone using one of the aforementioned exploits, and it's really annoying how people will even defend them.
at the end he says that there are rank 300 out there hacking, I played with a lot of 300's and I call some out for hacking (I don't have chat on so I talk to my self).
I was in lobby with a person using trigger bot and silent aim and I noticed so I started a vote kick then everyone else was just saying “they’re just good stop being mad” The average player really doesn’t know how to tell hacks so that makes it harder to kick a cheater.
From someone who used to be a lowlife hacker, i have a few things to say. For one, we call them "Closet cheaters" and are generally looked down upon. Although the anti cheat isn't great player reports like that of yours in the form of the video usually cause action. (That's how all of my accounts were banned in the past.) Thank you so much for making this video, exposing lowlives, explaining cheats, (and how to spot them), and of course, keeping it cool. Not being a mean person about it.
@@gyrotechnics9766 Ok, so usually there's not much that makes you looked up on, but usually things like using server side exploits on stupid games to do cool things (like, what citizen does), and obvious cheating doesn't make you looked up upon exactly, but being a closet cheater isn't cool. Using scripts overall to get better at games isn't usually looked up on. In some scenarios it doesn't matter but in most you are looked down upon if you are closet cheating.
ESPECIALLY those who try to deny everything, those who don't hold themselves accountable for their actions. Being obvious cheaters isn't exactly looked UP upon but its not as looked down upon as closet cheating/being a script kiddie is. Only exception is if you make your own cheats. Even then, still lame.
@@ViatorsPath Yeah as also a ex lowlife hacker lol, I agree with what you say here, of course I do sometimes want to go back and cheat but a while ago I realised that cheating is technically pointless and ruins the game for many people. I have been banned my fair share. I like typical modders and citizen though even though some people might hate me for it I think their videos are actually somewhat entertaining. Haven't watched them in a while either. Serverside doesn't necessarily make you a "Bad hacker" however.
The amount of work that went into this video is insane, great video Snowy! Also, I really appreciate that you made this video, maybe it'll help people who are less familiar with hackers to learn how to identify them
i agree that there is an overload of hackers recently and it really does suck that there aren’t enough people to properly deal with this. imo i feel like there should be a trusted group (arranged by stylis) who have rank 0 accounts w mod perms and there only purpose is to go around different lobbies and find hackers. Or there should be a hacker report server where people can say there’s a hacker in and more can join this person to get them banned. i feel like there should be more dedication to banning hackers tho
i feed like if they Implemed this it would have to be an AI that does not show on scoreboard because if there is a group of people doing the moderation you might have to be worried about one of them becoming a hacker/cheater and if that becomes a reality, they could hard kick people who sus them out of there hide hole
I hope a lot of people see this video, it can be difficult to explain to someone in chat what silent aim is and how it works, I feel like you explained it very well. It's amazing how many people don't even realize it's a thing.
A tactic I've noticed is for hackers to play really normal. I usually catch them for just weird plays and try to vk them. It usually doesn't go through, and the second it doesn't, the guy turns his hacks on all the way and we can't kick him for the remainder of the cooldown. Also ran into one with so many other alts on the server we couldn't get enough votes. Also another thing. If a player has no movement, but stupid good aim, they're probably hacking too.
When I feel like someone is cheating or has really unnatural aim, I wait till a match where I’m not teamed with them before using team chat to ask if others feel the same way. If they do, then I say to wait for next round to be teamed up with them before spectating said player for the entire match with squad spawn. If we confirm it, we tell global chat and hopefully vk them.
yes stylis need to do something about the cheating sistuation, its gone bad since after the april fools update, the amount of cheater i encounter to is way more then last year and the bad thing is people seems not be able to recognise they are cheating and when the vk gone off, it just doesnt works, i think stylis really needs to take some action instead of adding new guns into the game. Welp, thats my thought on the current state of the game, if anyone have any other idea, feel free to correct me
I completely agree with you bro. Phantom Forces is being really destroyed now a days by these kind of people. I also feel like some Higher ranks are doing this as-well. Why would they be doing this? Well it’s obvious, they won’t get caught because they are well… a high rank. I don’t really play Phantom Forces much now all because of these crazy events happening in the game. Even if most people honestly probably don’t care about this I would keep an eye on any person and any player they see; even if they are a high rank don’t expect them to not being cheating, like Snowy said, some high ranks will cheat and not get caught, this needs to be told out to other players also if you are reading this Snowy I have been going through the same exact thing recently. Edit: sorry for the long sentence but this needs to get out to others playing PF
The quality and the amount of work put into these videos have improved so much, keep up the great content! I feel like there were some cheats that you had missed out on which were important to address such as certain ammo exploits, which you might see in snipers and shotguns etc. But all in all video was great.
As someone who as used exploits in pf, the reason we hack is to try to see how much reaction we get out of the community. Or testing our hacks like: animation skipping (making bfg no recoil and automatic) aim bot/silent, and esp. and wallbang.
Nice video. This is the reason I stopped playing Phantom Forces. I just tried it again after a couple of years, and it instantly feels worse than ever. I really wish this whole issue could be fixed permanently
With such an amount of very hard to-detect cheaters on Roblox, any "competitive scene" on the platform is just ruined as anyone could be running an ESP/silent aim cheat and get away with it.
This actually helps as I do wonder how the hell 70% of the time do people kill me as I am a rank 130 and very experienced and yet a rank 30 guy some how kills me and the rest of my team when I'm with them so... Yezs thanks for the help of analysing hackers better
thank you for making this video, i learned new things about different hacks, and it's crazy to see how many people in games will still not want to kick a hacker, no matter how blatant they are
Finally someone who is getting serious in the hacking situation. I appreciate you Snowy, really. You're godly who taking a step forward unlike other youtubers who only talk trash about it and make fun of it. Thank you snowy.
@@toastpludDude, do you literally just go around making the same exact reply on dozens of other people's comments? Wow, you have even less of a life than the rank 300s in this game.
i had a similar situation to the dudes from game 10 who were defending a hacker and the person who was hacking literally said " im not hacking anymore " he continued to defend this dude for another 10 minutes
this is also an issue on roblox's end. Roblox should hardware / IP ban people who are banned for cheating. They should also bring back the old account making system of having to put in an email so making alt accounts will be a bit harder to do
Roblox already doesn’t ban hackers, for Roblox a lot of kids play so a hardware or ip ban could do a lot of damage, also Roblox can’t even detect some executors so you could be hacking and Roblox couldn’t tell.
There is hope though, from my experience playing arsenal, Bad Business, and PF... You can mass report a hackers account through the official roblox repoting system and 8 times out of 10 they'll get temporarily banned or even some cases terminated.
As a cheater, let me supply some context because i respect creators like you. Your second subject, He was not just using hitbox extender, yes the hitboxes may overlap but you can combine that with silent aim to basically fly your bullets wherever you want. that's likely how he got a 360 triple headshot even with hitbox extenders. Also, i'd like to add, its even worse than you think. I wont name them but some super popular pf scripts have over tens of thousands of downloads, and the majority of cheaters play SUPER legit, without esp, just a very slight silent aim. The hacking problem is only 5% of the true problem in phantom forces.
good video man. i feel like so many legit cheaters go unchecked because they still cant preform above a 5 kd even with cheats. hopefully this vid opens up people's eyes
Hi there snowy, I have a friend who used to develop these kind of things on roblox, whom shall not be named, Silent aim is a lot more complicated than it looks. It has things like FOV, so how far the bullets can stray from where you are aiming, Whether it hits head, body, legs or arms, Wallcheck, which basically prevents what that guy when u were explaining silent aim would solve Its all stupid tiers of clever and allows such a surreal "closet cheating" experience. I have personally never tried cheating in phantom forces, as I am against cheating in any sort of game. I'd know, I used to play R6S in high rank lobbies. If you want more information on the types of cheats, just ask and I can probably go get some by asking said friend.
From my experience it’s a lucky game if there is even one cheater, had matches with two or three a lot lately. People getting only headshots 95% of the time and no one cares.
Snowy thank you so much for creating this video. You helped me understand how to undercover cheater. Now 2~ cheaters get banned bc i reported this cheaters. Big thanks
I like the hackers that say: “i lose a rank 300 account 😭😭” and then do a 100-7 game and not even have a pro movement skill or something that “verify” hes rank 300
The average IQ of a Phantom Forces player is 2 so they can’t recognise hacker or player. The amount of hacker I encountered this week is 100 and the amount of time they got kick is 21.
ty for this video ive found so many cheaters but no one wants to kick them bc they cant tell whether or not they are cheating and these can be subtle to the untrained eye.
excellent job explaining everything in the vid, people really need to learn the different types of cheats and learn what they look like/function. (not bc i get false votekicked 98% of my games)
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSS someone that understands that you can be a hackr with a low kd its so annoying when theyre like "his kd isnt even that good. Are you trying to false vk?"
This video helps me A LOT cause I got kicked at rank 234 -_- for being sus and since you made this video now I should look at death cams and look to see if they are hacking this video helps me alot thx 😀
Basically they are called closet cheaters or just legit cheats. They use silent aim which is just a circle you can make it small or big. 2:43 Like snowy said there is a stud limit on how far your silent aim notices people. You can add Wallbang, Hitchance, Color of the Circle, Make the circle invisible OR they use just plain old aimlock but its smooth so it looks like they just have really good tracing. Most of the time they use ESP which lets you see throw walls. Ive seen a lot of high ranked cheaters no higher than 300 though. They are so much more easier to kill than blatant cheaters. A blatant cheater normally autokills everyone with wallbang and spinbot+C Frame (Speed) and they dont care if they get votekicked because they have auto join. So basically auto join activates when you get votekicked and it forces you into a new server or into the same server. Snowy explained it better than i did but i just wanted to cut what he said down into typing
This is LEGIT every phantom forces server. The cheaters accusing others and people defending cheaters and everything else in the video. It's always chaos...
This was a lot more, and a lot better put together than i was expecting, no offense ofc ive just not seen your content before(that i can remember at least haha). Bravo👏👏👏
Honestly the main reason, they are probably not getting kicked, is also attributed to the fact that some low ranks just really want to win, so they purposely press no in hopes of winning
The worst ones of them are the ones who then start to go on about YOU being "mad cuz bad" or how you have to "git gud" or shit like that when THEY are the ones hacking. Absolutely disgusting, I despise everyone who thinks that hacking in a game like Phantom Forces is cool, or is being toxic whilst blatantly cheating.
People like them is which I wished in the past the worst possible and the death too. I wanted Doxx they tbh and make their life terrible until they quit cheating. But now I just face they and see who have brain (to discuss with him) or not (leave him)
@@deam6329 Same. I just try to zip them to prove them wrong, and then spin on them once I get a kill... im at Rank 78 now, and I've seen so many hackers that it was enough for over 600 kills on the zip.
I think i've seen you before in a few random match, anyhow you do be cool fr I guess title would be "How to learn if the player is hacking or not" would kinda fit the content Anyhow great content, thanks for the interesting knowledge that you've shared
My main memory from this game is getting kicked from the "airsoft" indoor map because people though I was cheating... I was using the m60 spraying walls hoping to get kills... and it was working.
last time I was in a server, everyone defended a cheater what!? these hackers also make me looks bad since I also constantly accuse cheaters of cheating 💀 seriously, they get headshots all the time. sick and tired of these cheaters, and gullible idiots defending them this game seriously needs 1st-person perspective spectator mode and a much more effective banning system and thank you for making this video.
I remember back when I was a rank 30-40, and id always get put in these servers with rank 300's hacking. It was always so obvious with their tracers locking on, yet nobody believed me because I was just rank 30-40. Some people.
I used to know someone who would cheat on phantom forces, he used silent aim and you are able to change the rate that you hit headshots and the range that your silent aim will work.
As a phantom forces youtuber myself I have to say that the cheaters are more common these days. (I don't accuse everyone that is better than me) but when someone starts prefiring (across a whole map) faster than they can see or hear you, you can pretty confidently say that they are cheating. Anyway, very nice analysis and I hope the situation will get better soon.
I really enjoyed this video, very interesting and i would love to see you make another one like this one. Im currently rank 107 in game and i’ve gained some experience that im now able to spot hackers earlier than most people in a lobby sometimes, which can be unfortunate because votekicking early can lead to non kick from other because they didn’t have time to see what’s going on and i most of the time waste my votekick and enable the countdown, allowing the hacker to go crazy for a minute and waste people experience Im watching this video late but if you read this comment, thank you and please i would like to see another investigation like this one, really loved it.
btw when you said they have most headshots, there is usually a setting they can turn off 100% headshot and make it look like they dont hit all headshots
I always thought that i was just ass and i should just get better, but now that i saw this video it really cleared Things up for me, I guess i just got in A lot of servers with hackers
I love how in one match i was in everyone bullied a 7 year old with the intent to make him leave (mission success) and rejoiced, meanwhile in match 4 i think it was (it was desert storm with the idontspeak guy) players literally defend a hacker while bullying others Ah the duality of man
Recently i had come across a rank 93 hacker claiming to be a rank 300 alt account who i was able to get clips of them using increased firerate on snipers and dmr;s, hitbox extending and silent aim and get them banned. But in the process of doing so everyone was defending said person because they were so adamant about other people hacking, about how he could add you on discord and stream his screen if you wanted him too, him being an alt account of a pro player and all stuff like that, obviously when i took up his offer of adding him on discord he prolonged it for as long as possible, gave me his friends discord who i spoke to for a bit then left the server. People would be suprised at how many people who aren't even low ranks hack subtly and claim to be "alt accounts" or "i have experience from other shooters" and random things which people will believe that clear suspicion and its a real problem, you will probably run into 2 or 3 blatent hackers who get votekicked in each server but there is usually many more of the subtle ones using less blatent hacks and making up excuses in chat. Stylis needs to do something about this because the game is pretty much unplayable right now
I'm gonna help you here, theres some information in the video that you would really need to know how to hack and the types of scripts people use to know (yes i have experience with hacking but no i dont hack). Hackers basically use 'executors' that attach to the game once it is opened and they use these executors to run scripts. Higher qaulity scripts hackers use tend to have setting where you can change how amplified the effects of the hack are. For example, you can change the radius of your silent aim, as you said, but you can also change the speed that the aim switches from player to player. You can also change the the size of hitboxes when using extended hitboxes. You can even change the percentage chance that each shot you take is a headshot, limb shot, or torso shot. Experienced hackers usually used settings that are just believable where it seem passable that the person is simply a high skill player. This is why so many hackers can go completely undetected, however, as of recently many hackers have been struggling due to roblox's updates in anti cheat software. Yes i know im late to the video but im just spreading some infoirmation.
In a map, there was a sewers you could jump and be yeeted to the sky, I almost got kicked, turns out the guy who called the bot was a hacker being defended by his scooby dooby gang
I got into a lobby with a guy who was flying, using aimbot, etc. But this other guy kept defending him and kept hitting no on the vote kick, everyone just left except me, the hacker, and the idiot. Even the hacker thought the other guy was stupid.
Hi there, a former exploiter here. Me and my friends mostly used exploits to get to top tier level stuff faster, so we wont have to grind 500 hours to get something we wanted, because we could get it in 5. Some pepole might critiscise me and my friends for not playing the game fair, and thats true, and i agree with your oppinion, but let me ask you this: if you could shorten the grind for that sweet gun/item you want by 95% with little to no drawbacks, would you do it? And dont tell me pepole ruin the fun in games (its kinda true but still) as most pepole i know who actually use the exploits/cheats are actually quite chill and just want to save time, mess around or just chill as the coolest dude on the server that gives free stuff to pepole. i remember playing a game that was very very popular back then, and i used exploits to give me 2.5 bilion credits, but scince i didnt even know what to do with them i just gave everyone free items, cash and other fun stuff. There are alot of bad exploiters, cheaters and other pepole like that wich set a stereotype for preety much all of us, wich i think is unfair. As i said before, a big portion of exploiters and cheaters just want to have fun, and skip most of the grind. i hope this clears up things a bit. Cya!
10:15 It's percentage, nothing to do with studs. Esp has a range, but silent aim has percentages. He probably set his headshot percentages to be 30-40% and bodyshot to be 60-70%. That'll explain that part.
Good way of detecting cheaters: Accuse them. Just accuse them. A lot of them will shit themselves on the spot, do one of the following: leave get hyper defensive or try to shift the blame sometimes you dont even need evidence for them to be removed from the server because they do it for you.
had seen so many hackers in game when i was above a house and the guy was underground in the tunnels in sandstorm then he suddenly killed me and hes not even aiming up in the death cam and saying that his gun has high pen
Nice video Snowy.I don't watch other PF content creators but this one popped in my recommended and Im glad because everything you said is accurate, but here it comes the other side of the dice. You got those player banned, they were of course cheating but, if you were an average player that notices it and reports it with video proof and screenshots, the moderation will reject it, they will simply reject it with the reason being "not having enough evidence" even when multiple clips are being shown. It's really sad since they expect YOU as a player to do a whole investigation like you did while they reject people that is not obvious enough. The current moderation is part of the issue too since even high ranks cheat too they dont care at all.
Actually 3 out of the 4 hackers were not reported by me. They had already been banned by the time I went to report them (to be fair it was like a week after i got all the footage). the moderation does not discriminate against average players for lack of proof, there have been a lot of hackers that I personally wanted to get banned but the mods could not justify it for a lack of proof. They really need something concrete or else they dont wanna risk false banning people
@@SnowyPF I didn’t know you had the same issue in the past, It makes my vision about this issue wide since I though that they only would listen content creators that are partnered with them. Appreciate it man, the last report I did was someone saying racial slurs to people that was speaking Spanish, I investigated and he had past violations about racial slurs with the staff, I showed them and he didn’t get a chat ban. The moderation itself needs to be checked too.
if you want to get rid of any sort of fly, spin, and speed hacks, Stylis needs to make server-sided player movement. cheaters can only change what they have control over. and right now its the projectiles, and the player.
If anyone has any questions about exploiting or hacking in phantom forces or just in general, let me know cause I can answer them. I’ve previously exploited or “hacked” in phantom forces and I’ve been an exploiter for a while so I have some good information about exploiters.
4 hours ago while i was playing phantom forces this was this guy who had 124 levels in phantom forces, but the thing is he was hacking, he did did headshots on us when we were 4 - 6 walls apart from him he did this till he got 100+ kills, other players started saying he was hacking and other players said he wasnt, then he got really very sus in the game and got headshots across the map and some of the people started complaining that they were protected by 4 - 3 walls infront of them but the guy with 120+ levels still keep getting kills like this, till we started to vote kick him but some of the players said it was just skill but we already knew that the guy was hacking.
I got perma banned from this game on my main and haven't bothered playing since. I enjoyed the game on my xbox account when I was younger but then stopped playing. One day years later I got bored so I decided to cheat very obviously. The only way you can stop exploiters is making so they dont find worth in taking some time to make another account and play, that is it. However you do so is up to the devs but that is the main goal. Not trying to stop exploiting but make it not worth your time. And that method of accusing others of cheating and having other players vouch for you when you are cheating is just spot on and I have experienced both in my experience. However I encourage cheaters to avoid games like Phantom Forces because they are actually somewhat well made and find other ways of cheating that wont bother players or make it even more fun like music bot scripts, booth game scripts, emote scripts, even fps boost scripts etc. Exploiting can still be lots of fun for you when it is for others. And they are exploiters who use it for good, or harmless reasons we just need more of them. I dont exploit anymore just because its not as fun, and found cheating in competitive games to ruin other peoples time and so it ruined mine. It is much more fun to actually play the games and get good at them rather than cheating in my experience. Also superb editing! All around nice vid!
I also have encountered 2 hackers who accused me for using exploits when i was just like using a rank 11 account of my brother so he can unlock more weapons. And based on what they said they reported me to roblox (which wouldnt work either im breaking the rules or not). And preety much attempt on cyber bullying while using exploits. Both of them got kicked for cyber bullying so it ends on just that
The nice thing is in recent updates the amount of hackers has been cut down to almost zero and the game has rebounded from its 3,500 player count so go play it now
We are not all accusing, when they randomly point blame at a player and make a vote kick, it’s automatic, sometimes the messages are also automated. Just an FYI
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Its just a shame that the gaming community as a whole is plagued with these cheaters who just ruin everyone else's experience. And the worst part is that there's pretty much no solution to the issue. Game devs can upgrade their ant-cheat system and ban as many hackers as they want, but there's always a small group of players who still cheat.
I make scripts and get paid for it. You do realize that even if they have a good anti cheat it will eventually get bypassed by people like me. So when they update after a week or so. So it’s almost impossible for them to completely stop cheating as a whole.
i like how you are blaming the hackers without mentioning that roblox has no anti cheat, i mean it does have one but its so bad a 2 year old baby could bypass it without spending a cent, and on top of that roblox dosent ban exploiters so there arent any consequences for cheating
only roblox can fix this but since they are incompetent they don’t
@@jaythehooper8130 but why you create scripts for games instead of creating something by your own, like a game or idk. It's becouse off guys like you that most of the games are falling apart becouse of the scripts.
It is our objective to ruin every 9 year old's saturday
This video says exactly what I have been saying for months, there are so many people who use cheats like silent aim, esp, hitbox extender and such, yet very rarely do they get kicked because the average player just does not know what it looks like to use them. I could not be happier to have confirmation that I am not the only one who has noticed this, especially because these people not getting kicked has killed a lot of the enjoyment from the game because of how common they seemingly are. It feels as though every few rounds there's someone using one of the aforementioned exploits, and it's really annoying how people will even defend them.
Sometimes I feel like I see a hacker but I 2nd doubt myself that someone’s using silent aim or extended hitboxes
at the end he says that there are rank 300 out there hacking, I played with a lot of 300's and I call some out for hacking (I don't have chat on so I talk to my self).
I was in lobby with a person using trigger bot and silent aim and I noticed so I started a vote kick then everyone else was just saying “they’re just good stop being mad”
The average player really doesn’t know how to tell hacks so that makes it harder to kick a cheater.
This reason exactly is pretty much why I’ve stopped playing the game
@@unstoppblekid not all of them are hacking.
From someone who used to be a lowlife hacker, i have a few things to say.
For one, we call them "Closet cheaters" and are generally looked down upon.
Although the anti cheat isn't great player reports like that of yours in the form of the video usually cause action. (That's how all of my accounts were banned in the past.)
Thank you so much for making this video, exposing lowlives, explaining cheats, (and how to spot them), and of course, keeping it cool. Not being a mean person about it.
Can you elaborate a little more i would like to know more about the hacker community. And also how one can be "good" and one "bad".
@@gyrotechnics9766 Elaborate on what you are asking?
@@gyrotechnics9766 Ok, so usually there's not much that makes you looked up on, but usually things like using server side exploits on stupid games to do cool things (like, what citizen does), and obvious cheating doesn't make you looked up upon exactly, but being a closet cheater isn't cool. Using scripts overall to get better at games isn't usually looked up on. In some scenarios it doesn't matter but in most you are looked down upon if you are closet cheating.
ESPECIALLY those who try to deny everything, those who don't hold themselves accountable for their actions. Being obvious cheaters isn't exactly looked UP upon but its not as looked down upon as closet cheating/being a script kiddie is. Only exception is if you make your own cheats. Even then, still lame.
@@ViatorsPath Yeah as also a ex lowlife hacker lol, I agree with what you say here, of course I do sometimes want to go back and cheat but a while ago I realised that cheating is technically pointless and ruins the game for many people. I have been banned my fair share. I like typical modders and citizen though even though some people might hate me for it I think their videos are actually somewhat entertaining. Haven't watched them in a while either. Serverside doesn't necessarily make you a "Bad hacker" however.
that dude hit a triple crossmap all headshots effortlessly was the funniest thing i've seen all day 🤣
The amount of work that went into this video is insane, great video Snowy!
Also, I really appreciate that you made this video, maybe it'll help people who are less familiar with hackers to learn how to identify them
i agree that there is an overload of hackers recently and it really does suck that there aren’t enough people to properly deal with this. imo i feel like there should be a trusted group (arranged by stylis) who have rank 0 accounts w mod perms and there only purpose is to go around different lobbies and find hackers. Or there should be a hacker report server where people can say there’s a hacker in and more can join this person to get them banned. i feel like there should be more dedication to banning hackers tho
i feed like if they Implemed this it would have to be an AI that does not show on scoreboard because if there is a group of people doing the moderation you might have to be worried about one of them becoming a hacker/cheater and if that becomes a reality, they could hard kick people who sus them out of there hide hole
yea that’s very true
@@zos_131 yea but the others can tell stylis about the rat
@@DecisionsAreQuestionable yea but hear me out... they dont know
They'd just make accounts bro
I hope a lot of people see this video, it can be difficult to explain to someone in chat what silent aim is and how it works, I feel like you explained it very well. It's amazing how many people don't even realize it's a thing.
get better
A tactic I've noticed is for hackers to play really normal. I usually catch them for just weird plays and try to vk them. It usually doesn't go through, and the second it doesn't, the guy turns his hacks on all the way and we can't kick him for the remainder of the cooldown. Also ran into one with so many other alts on the server we couldn't get enough votes. Also another thing. If a player has no movement, but stupid good aim, they're probably hacking too.
i found a guy called kaiky or smth like that, he got godlike aim but he didnt knew how to slide or superjump lol
I can’t tell if it’s actually happening, but it seems they also try to turn off the hacks whenever attention is brought to them
@@Kodaiva yea, like if someone tries to votekick them, they instantly disable or maybe they get more blatant
Those hackers suck at hiding
When I feel like someone is cheating or has really unnatural aim, I wait till a match where I’m not teamed with them before using team chat to ask if others feel the same way.
If they do, then I say to wait for next round to be teamed up with them before spectating said player for the entire match with squad spawn. If we confirm it, we tell global chat and hopefully vk them.
yes stylis need to do something about the cheating sistuation, its gone bad since after the april fools update, the amount of cheater i encounter to is way more then last year and the bad thing is people seems not be able to recognise they are cheating and when the vk gone off, it just doesnt works, i think stylis really needs to take some action instead of adding new guns into the game. Welp, thats my thought on the current state of the game, if anyone have any other idea, feel free to correct me
I completely agree with you bro. Phantom Forces is being really destroyed now a days by these kind of people. I also feel like some Higher ranks are doing this as-well. Why would they be doing this? Well it’s obvious, they won’t get caught because they are well… a high rank. I don’t really play Phantom Forces much now all because of these crazy events happening in the game. Even if most people honestly probably don’t care about this I would keep an eye on any person and any player they see; even if they are a high rank don’t expect them to not being cheating, like Snowy said, some high ranks will cheat and not get caught, this needs to be told out to other players also if you are reading this Snowy I have been going through the same exact thing recently.
Edit: sorry for the long sentence but this needs to get out to others playing PF
The quality and the amount of work put into these videos have improved so much, keep up the great content!
I feel like there were some cheats that you had missed out on which were important to address such as certain ammo exploits, which you might see in snipers and shotguns etc. But all in all video was great.
As someone who as used exploits in pf, the reason we hack is to try to see how much reaction we get out of the community. Or testing our hacks like: animation skipping (making bfg no recoil and automatic) aim bot/silent, and esp. and wallbang.
Nice video. This is the reason I stopped playing Phantom Forces. I just tried it again after a couple of years, and it instantly feels worse than ever. I really wish this whole issue could be fixed permanently
Really high quality video man, shame that people really have to ruin the game for everyone else
Thank you, for trying to investigate the hackers. Now everyone playing phantom forces will understand AND figure out if someone is hacking. Thank you.
love the editing style, please keep making content :)
the visuals you have made during the silent sim explanation was absolutely amazing.
With such an amount of very hard to-detect cheaters on Roblox, any "competitive scene" on the platform is just ruined as anyone could be running an ESP/silent aim cheat and get away with it.
This actually helps as I do wonder how the hell 70% of the time do people kill me as I am a rank 130 and very experienced and yet a rank 30 guy some how kills me and the rest of my team when I'm with them so... Yezs thanks for the help of analysing hackers better
I love the effort you are putting into these videos keep it up man
thank you for making this video, i learned new things about different hacks, and it's crazy to see how many people in games will still not want to kick a hacker, no matter how blatant they are
Finally someone who is getting serious in the hacking situation. I appreciate you Snowy, really. You're godly who taking a step forward unlike other youtubers who only talk trash about it and make fun of it. Thank you snowy.
get better
@@toastpludDude, do you literally just go around making the same exact reply on dozens of other people's comments?
Wow, you have even less of a life than the rank 300s in this game.
Im glad you made a video on this! Great job snowy
i had a similar situation to the dudes from game 10 who were defending a hacker and the person who was hacking literally said " im not hacking anymore " he continued to defend this dude for another 10 minutes
this is also an issue on roblox's end. Roblox should hardware / IP ban people who are banned for cheating. They should also bring back the old account making system of having to put in an email so making alt accounts will be a bit harder to do
Roblox already doesn’t ban hackers, for Roblox a lot of kids play so a hardware or ip ban could do a lot of damage, also Roblox can’t even detect some executors so you could be hacking and Roblox couldn’t tell.
There is hope though, from my experience playing arsenal, Bad Business, and PF... You can mass report a hackers account through the official roblox repoting system and 8 times out of 10 they'll get temporarily banned or even some cases terminated.
roblox makes money from cheaters, so they do not care sadly
@@117days Most times roblox gets an update they try to stop some executors, but they get fixed in a day or less.
This really shows us how we can identify hackers and take matters into our own hands. Thx.
As a cheater, let me supply some context because i respect creators like you. Your second subject, He was not just using hitbox extender, yes the hitboxes may overlap but you can combine that with silent aim to basically fly your bullets wherever you want. that's likely how he got a 360 triple headshot even with hitbox extenders. Also, i'd like to add, its even worse than you think. I wont name them but some super popular pf scripts have over tens of thousands of downloads, and the majority of cheaters play SUPER legit, without esp, just a very slight silent aim. The hacking problem is only 5% of the true problem in phantom forces.
good video man. i feel like so many legit cheaters go unchecked because they still cant preform above a 5 kd even with cheats. hopefully this vid opens up people's eyes
Hi there snowy,
I have a friend who used to develop these kind of things on roblox, whom shall not be named,
Silent aim is a lot more complicated than it looks.
It has things like FOV, so how far the bullets can stray from where you are aiming,
Whether it hits head, body, legs or arms,
Wallcheck, which basically prevents what that guy when u were explaining silent aim would solve
Its all stupid tiers of clever and allows such a surreal "closet cheating" experience.
I have personally never tried cheating in phantom forces, as I am against cheating in any sort of game.
I'd know, I used to play R6S in high rank lobbies.
If you want more information on the types of cheats, just ask and I can probably go get some by asking said friend.
Thanks for this. I will look closer into people’s gameplay now that I know what silent aim and extended hitboxes
From my experience it’s a lucky game if there is even one cheater, had matches with two or three a lot lately.
People getting only headshots 95% of the time and no one cares.
snowy, i have not watched u in over a year: your editing has improved a LOT! good work
Snowy thank you so much for creating this video. You helped me understand how to undercover cheater. Now 2~ cheaters get banned bc i reported this cheaters. Big thanks
I like the hackers that say: “i lose a rank 300 account 😭😭” and then do a 100-7 game and not even have a pro movement skill or something that “verify” hes rank 300
The average IQ of a Phantom Forces player is 2 so they can’t recognise hacker or player. The amount of hacker I encountered this week is 100 and the amount of time they got kick is 21.
ty for this video ive found so many cheaters but no one wants to kick them bc they cant tell whether or not they are cheating and these can be subtle to the untrained eye.
Watch for the bullet tracers and make sure you make sure you check if the gun has choke
High quality video. I really like the editing style too. Keep it up! :)
excellent job explaining everything in the vid, people really need to learn the different types of cheats and learn what they look like/function. (not bc i get false votekicked 98% of my games)
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSS someone that understands that you can be a hackr with a low kd its so annoying when theyre like "his kd isnt even that good. Are you trying to false vk?"
the exploiters accusing others is very common even with the most subtle ones as someone who used to use them sometimes when i was bored
This video helps me A LOT cause I got kicked at rank 234 -_- for being sus and since you made this video now I should look at death cams and look to see if they are hacking this video helps me alot thx 😀
Basically they are called closet cheaters or just legit cheats. They use silent aim which is just a circle you can make it small or big. 2:43 Like snowy said there is a stud limit on how far your silent aim notices people. You can add Wallbang, Hitchance, Color of the Circle, Make the circle invisible OR they use just plain old aimlock but its smooth so it looks like they just have really good tracing. Most of the time they use ESP which lets you see throw walls. Ive seen a lot of high ranked cheaters no higher than 300 though. They are so much more easier to kill than blatant cheaters. A blatant cheater normally autokills everyone with wallbang and spinbot+C Frame (Speed) and they dont care if they get votekicked because they have auto join. So basically auto join activates when you get votekicked and it forces you into a new server or into the same server. Snowy explained it better than i did but i just wanted to cut what he said down into typing
Dude, a lot of hackers play with friends these days and they cover each other and are super hard to kick
This is LEGIT every phantom forces server. The cheaters accusing others and people defending cheaters and everything else in the video. It's always chaos...
This was a lot more, and a lot better put together than i was expecting, no offense ofc ive just not seen your content before(that i can remember at least haha). Bravo👏👏👏
marcus is the most friendly hacker on this vid :)
on how he talk, and not how he use the spin hack, but atleast the spinhack pretty funny to watch
Honestly the main reason, they are probably not getting kicked, is also attributed to the fact that some low ranks just really want to win, so they purposely press no in hopes of winning
its very hard to pick up on a cheater on your own team unless you purposely spectate them for a while
The worst ones of them are the ones who then start to go on about YOU being "mad cuz bad" or how you have to "git gud" or shit like that when THEY are the ones hacking.
Absolutely disgusting, I despise everyone who thinks that hacking in a game like Phantom Forces is cool, or is being toxic whilst blatantly cheating.
People like them is which I wished in the past the worst possible and the death too. I wanted Doxx they tbh and make their life terrible until they quit cheating. But now I just face they and see who have brain (to discuss with him) or not (leave him)
@@deam6329 Same. I just try to zip them to prove them wrong, and then spin on them once I get a kill... im at Rank 78 now, and I've seen so many hackers that it was enough for over 600 kills on the zip.
@@deam6329 I might actually apply for game mod, so I can ban these kids...
I think i've seen you before in a few random match, anyhow you do be cool fr
I guess title would be "How to learn if the player is hacking or not" would kinda fit the content
Anyhow great content, thanks for the interesting knowledge that you've shared
My main memory from this game is getting kicked from the "airsoft" indoor map because people though I was cheating... I was using the m60 spraying walls hoping to get kills... and it was working.
last time I was in a server, everyone defended a cheater
what!?
these hackers also make me looks bad since I also constantly accuse cheaters of cheating 💀
seriously, they get headshots all the time.
sick and tired of these cheaters, and gullible idiots defending them
this game seriously needs 1st-person perspective spectator mode and a much more effective banning system
and thank you for making this video.
I saw charles in a game one time and no one kicked him i tried to but they all pressed n smh. Keep up the good work😄.
I’m enjoying this video so much. You earned a new subscriber
I remember back when I was a rank 30-40, and id always get put in these servers with rank 300's hacking. It was always so obvious with their tracers locking on, yet nobody believed me because I was just rank 30-40.
Some people.
I think the worst thing about this is, other players defending the hackers or even motivating them to keep going
The first Phantom Forces Video I saw and it's my favorite:D
I used to know someone who would cheat on phantom forces, he used silent aim and you are able to change the rate that you hit headshots and the range that your silent aim will work.
As a phantom forces youtuber myself I have to say that the cheaters are more common these days. (I don't accuse everyone that is better than me) but when someone starts prefiring (across a whole map) faster than they can see or hear you, you can pretty confidently say that they are cheating. Anyway, very nice analysis and I hope the situation will get better soon.
I really enjoyed this video, very interesting and i would love to see you make another one like this one.
Im currently rank 107 in game and i’ve gained some experience that im now able to spot hackers earlier than most people in a lobby sometimes, which can be unfortunate because votekicking early can lead to non kick from other because they didn’t have time to see what’s going on and i most of the time waste my votekick and enable the countdown, allowing the hacker to go crazy for a minute and waste people experience
Im watching this video late but if you read this comment, thank you and please i would like to see another investigation like this one, really loved it.
George is that one guy no one asks for in a argument
I had a sever once that had like 4 to 6 hackers and I still have PTSD of that day
btw when you said they have most headshots, there is usually a setting they can turn off 100% headshot and make it look like they dont hit all headshots
I always thought that i was just ass and i should just get better, but now that i saw this video it really cleared
Things up for me, I guess i just got in
A lot of servers with hackers
The return of the king
laggy players or overall players with 100 ping or above makes so the anticheat has to be so much more tolerant that it allows for these exploits
I love how in one match i was in everyone bullied a 7 year old with the intent to make him leave (mission success) and rejoiced, meanwhile in match 4 i think it was (it was desert storm with the idontspeak guy) players literally defend a hacker while bullying others
Ah the duality of man
Recently i had come across a rank 93 hacker claiming to be a rank 300 alt account who i was able to get clips of them using increased firerate on snipers and dmr;s, hitbox extending and silent aim and get them banned. But in the process of doing so everyone was defending said person because they were so adamant about other people hacking, about how he could add you on discord and stream his screen if you wanted him too, him being an alt account of a pro player and all stuff like that, obviously when i took up his offer of adding him on discord he prolonged it for as long as possible, gave me his friends discord who i spoke to for a bit then left the server.
People would be suprised at how many people who aren't even low ranks hack subtly and claim to be "alt accounts" or "i have experience from other shooters" and random things which people will believe that clear suspicion and its a real problem, you will probably run into 2 or 3 blatent hackers who get votekicked in each server but there is usually many more of the subtle ones using less blatent hacks and making up excuses in chat.
Stylis needs to do something about this because the game is pretty much unplayable right now
Thank you for coming back comrade
I'm gonna help you here, theres some information in the video that you would really need to know how to hack and the types of scripts people use to know (yes i have experience with hacking but no i dont hack). Hackers basically use 'executors' that attach to the game once it is opened and they use these executors to run scripts. Higher qaulity scripts hackers use tend to have setting where you can change how amplified the effects of the hack are. For example, you can change the radius of your silent aim, as you said, but you can also change the speed that the aim switches from player to player. You can also change the the size of hitboxes when using extended hitboxes. You can even change the percentage chance that each shot you take is a headshot, limb shot, or torso shot. Experienced hackers usually used settings that are just believable where it seem passable that the person is simply a high skill player. This is why so many hackers can go completely undetected, however, as of recently many hackers have been struggling due to roblox's updates in anti cheat software. Yes i know im late to the video but im just spreading some infoirmation.
bro why did you write an essay in the comment section 💀
phantom forces is never gonna be se same ever again.. 2020 was its glory year
@Анамє іnside ꑭ i remember when people didn't have all the same setup :( that were the days
I dwell in Singapore server, and the amount of all-headshots hacker getting a lot of "No" vote is amazing. The game is so toxic right now.
In a map, there was a sewers you could jump and be yeeted to the sky, I almost got kicked, turns out the guy who called the bot was a hacker being defended by his scooby dooby gang
I loved watching this video ngl I’d love to see you make videos of just drama happening in servers
This guy is an amazing detective for exploiters
that's why we need the killcam to be infinite or with a skip button, to spec them, since 5 sceonds is really not enough
impressive visuals! youve improved a lot :o
I got into a lobby with a guy who was flying, using aimbot, etc. But this other guy kept defending him and kept hitting no on the vote kick, everyone just left except me, the hacker, and the idiot. Even the hacker thought the other guy was stupid.
Hi there, a former exploiter here. Me and my friends mostly used exploits to get to top tier level stuff faster, so we wont have to grind 500 hours to get something we wanted, because we could get it in 5. Some pepole might critiscise me and my friends for not playing the game fair, and thats true, and i agree with your oppinion, but let me ask you this: if you could shorten the grind for that sweet gun/item you want by 95% with little to no drawbacks, would you do it? And dont tell me pepole ruin the fun in games (its kinda true but still) as most pepole i know who actually use the exploits/cheats are actually quite chill and just want to save time, mess around or just chill as the coolest dude on the server that gives free stuff to pepole. i remember playing a game that was very very popular back then, and i used exploits to give me 2.5 bilion credits, but scince i didnt even know what to do with them i just gave everyone free items, cash and other fun stuff. There are alot of bad exploiters, cheaters and other pepole like that wich set a stereotype for preety much all of us, wich i think is unfair. As i said before, a big portion of exploiters and cheaters just want to have fun, and skip most of the grind. i hope this clears up things a bit. Cya!
10:15 It's percentage, nothing to do with studs. Esp has a range, but silent aim has percentages. He probably set his headshot percentages to be 30-40% and bodyshot to be 60-70%. That'll explain that part.
This is one of the best of videos I’ve ever seen
Love this style of content you should make it a series!
Good way of detecting cheaters:
Accuse them. Just accuse them.
A lot of them will shit themselves on the spot, do one of the following:
leave
get hyper defensive
or try to shift the blame
sometimes you dont even need evidence for them to be removed from the server because they do it for you.
Gotta lova Hyrule Field Twilight Princess as backround music
had seen so many hackers in game when i was above a house and the guy was underground in the tunnels in sandstorm then he suddenly killed me and hes not even aiming up in the death cam and saying that his gun has high pen
Nice video Snowy.I don't watch other PF content creators but this one popped in my recommended and Im glad because everything you said is accurate, but here it comes the other side of the dice. You got those player banned, they were of course cheating but, if you were an average player that notices it and reports it with video proof and screenshots, the moderation will reject it, they will simply reject it with the reason being "not having enough evidence" even when multiple clips are being shown. It's really sad since they expect YOU as a player to do a whole investigation like you did while they reject people that is not obvious enough. The current moderation is part of the issue too since even high ranks cheat too they dont care at all.
Actually 3 out of the 4 hackers were not reported by me. They had already been banned by the time I went to report them (to be fair it was like a week after i got all the footage). the moderation does not discriminate against average players for lack of proof, there have been a lot of hackers that I personally wanted to get banned but the mods could not justify it for a lack of proof. They really need something concrete or else they dont wanna risk false banning people
@@SnowyPF I didn’t know you had the same issue in the past, It makes my vision about this issue wide since I though that they only would listen content creators that are partnered with them. Appreciate it man, the last report I did was someone saying racial slurs to people that was speaking Spanish, I investigated and he had past violations about racial slurs with the staff, I showed them and he didn’t get a chat ban. The moderation itself needs to be checked too.
This is why I haven't played as much anymore.
I’ve seen videos you could adjust headshot chances by many % so it would be others thinking they’re more legit players when they’re not.
if you want to get rid of any sort of fly, spin, and speed hacks,
Stylis needs to make server-sided player movement.
cheaters can only change what they have control over.
and right now its the projectiles, and the player.
If anyone has any questions about exploiting or hacking in phantom forces or just in general, let me know cause I can answer them. I’ve previously exploited or “hacked” in phantom forces and I’ve been an exploiter for a while so I have some good information about exploiters.
4 hours ago while i was playing phantom forces this was this guy who had 124 levels in phantom forces, but the thing is he was hacking, he did did headshots on us when we were 4 - 6 walls apart from him he did this till he got 100+ kills, other players started saying he was hacking and other players said he wasnt, then he got really very sus in the game and got headshots across the map and some of the people started complaining that they were protected by 4 - 3 walls infront of them but the guy with 120+ levels still keep getting kills like this, till we started to vote kick him but some of the players said it was just skill but we already knew that the guy was hacking.
I've gotten to the point where I can call out who's gonna hack as soon as they join with kinda scary accuracy
mod : yea i banned a hacker
hacker : *COMES BACK WITH 10 MILLION ALTS*
I got perma banned from this game on my main and haven't bothered playing since.
I enjoyed the game on my xbox account when I was younger but then stopped playing. One day years later I got bored so I decided to cheat very obviously. The only way you can stop exploiters is making so they dont find worth in taking some time to make another account and play, that is it. However you do so is up to the devs but that is the main goal. Not trying to stop exploiting but make it not worth your time.
And that method of accusing others of cheating and having other players vouch for you when you are cheating is just spot on and I have experienced both in my experience.
However I encourage cheaters to avoid games like Phantom Forces because they are actually somewhat well made and find other ways of cheating that wont bother players or make it even more fun like music bot scripts, booth game scripts, emote scripts, even fps boost scripts etc.
Exploiting can still be lots of fun for you when it is for others. And they are exploiters who use it for good, or harmless reasons we just need more of them.
I dont exploit anymore just because its not as fun, and found cheating in competitive games to ruin other peoples time and so it ruined mine.
It is much more fun to actually play the games and get good at them rather than cheating in my experience. Also superb editing! All around nice vid!
I also have encountered 2 hackers who accused me for using exploits when i was just like using a rank 11 account of my brother so he can unlock more weapons. And based on what they said they reported me to roblox (which wouldnt work either im breaking the rules or not). And preety much attempt on cyber bullying while using exploits. Both of them got kicked for cyber bullying so it ends on just that
11:22 "admin he doing it sideways"
How to stop cyber bullying:
Step 1: Close laptop
Step 2: Problem solved
me seeing hes almost about to level up. everybody else: its sad to see so much cheaters
The nice thing is in recent updates the amount of hackers has been cut down to almost zero and the game has rebounded from its 3,500 player count so go play it now
We are not all accusing, when they randomly point blame at a player and make a vote kick, it’s automatic, sometimes the messages are also automated. Just an FYI