BIGGEST Class A Gas Motorhome and its a TOY HAULER!!! Outlaw 38MB
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- 2021 Thor Outlaw 38MB - Class A Toy Hauler Motorhome
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Specs
Sleeps 8
Slides 2
Length 39 ft 9 in
Ext Width 8 ft
Ext Height 13 ft 3 in
Interior Color ON ORDER
Hitch Weight 8000 lbs
Gross Weight 26000 lbs
Fresh Water Capacity 150 gals
Grey Water Capacity 40 gals
Black Water Capacity 40 gals
Tire Size 22.5"
Furnace BTU 35000 btu
Fuel Type Gasoline
Engine 6.8L Triton V10
Chassis Ford F-53
Horsepower 320 hp
Fuel Capacity 80 gals
Wheelbase 262 in
Number Of Bunks 1
Available Beds RV King
Torque 460 ft-lb
Refrigerator Type Residential
Convection Cooking Yes
Cooktop Burners 3
Shower Size 30" x 36"
Number of Awnings 2
Garage Size 10 ft 2 in
LP Tank Capacity 105 lbs
Water Heater Type Tankless
AC BTU 35000 btu
Basement Storage 141 cu. ft.
TV Info LR 39" LED TV, BR 32" LED TV, Garage 39" LED TV, Ext. 39" LED TV Awning Info 10' and 18' Power w/LED Lights
Washer/Dryer Available Yes
Gross Combined Weight 30000 lbs
Shower Type Standard
Electrical Service 50 amp
Hi everyone, thanks for all the comments and feedback. Matt, I will take your toilet tips to our product development team. (I'm Steve from the Thor videos so I don't hold all the decision making powers, just as much power as a video guy can have . But I do take all suggestions to the proper people and teams.) Andrea, the Outlaw comes in three colors and two wood choices. Hopefully some of the lighter colors will soon work their way into the Outlaw. For those looking for washer/dryer prep check out the Outlaw 38KB. Thanks - Steve from TMC
Yay 😀 sounds good great!cant wait to see the different colors!
👍🏿👍🏿
Put it under the overhead cabinet.
Why did you stop putting ovens in the newer models? Better than the competitor which has propane but only induction and convection cooking options.
Good morning @@raynman67 many of our changes are driven by our owners and our dealer feedback. This is no different. From what we had been communicated to us, this was the overwhelmingly popular choice amongst most everyone. Please reach out with any other questions.
My grandpa used to talk about moteef also but when he was talking about moteef he was talking about having moteef to chew with as he only had 2 teef he was always praying on his birfday for moteef he also survived an erfquake once
Another great review by the hardest working two people in the RV industry!
Hi guys! That is the same exact Outlaw we rented (two years ago). We loved 🥰 it. I drove (yes, I am a female) and had no issues at all! But, Andrea is correct.... not much room for food items. And I prefer more kitchen counter space. We absolutely adored sitting on the back patio overlooking the Colorado rivers. Great rig! 💜. Oh, ours had a fireplace in the garage corner under the TV. That was nice too on the chilly nights. 😃
Washer/dryer hookups would be a great addition!
Hi. The 38KB does have washer/dryer prep. - Steve from TMC
@@ThorMotorCoach Yes but the seats in the garage in the KB don’t go up like they do in the MB....wish the KB did both!
Absolutely love this floorplan! I don't even have toys to haul but it's an attractive option to convert the garage to an WFH office and have it as an emergency guest room. That and having an enclosed/raised patio area in the back is super nice! It's a bit big but that's to be expected with all you get here!
You can tell he's worked his butt off from the fact that his voice sounds tired and he's getting voice cracks (also the red skin from the sun)
THANK YOU for including video of the interior with the slide-outs CLOSED. It's crucial to know what the interior experience would be like while driving.
Hi Matt and Andrea ! Love this Thor Toy hauler. Glad it’s sold. My dislikes were the bath toilet was where the toilet paper holder is was tight. It just needs to be out else where. The other two were Andreas. The same as hers. My likes were the sane as yours. Thank you Matt and Andrea.
I agree on the colors. As I single woman, I like the Floorplan to set up my sewing studio in the garage, but do not like the interior colors.
I love you, guys. Not just for the content, but also your loving, fun, and natural personalities.
I really liked this review, it pointed out the lack of undercarriage storage, was very surprised to the lack of grey water storage. As a Solo Female, hate the dark colors inside and especially out (too hard to keep clean)! Looking at the class A toy haulers for safety (don't have to exit until I've determined safe parameter). Offer an option chair/table dining area, being SF you don't need booth bed. The front over driver area bunk creates a great pantry/storage area. Offer a garage door upgrade like Grand Design Momentum to secure garage area with security glass or solid doors to the patio, that way you don't have to close the tailgate. The garage is where I want to create an office/laundry area after I have moved stowed patio furniture out to elevated deck and CampChef stove to cook outdoors. I don't need beds, I require usable space, 5th wheels have fabulous floorplans, but aren't truly safe for SF. Keep up the great videos Matt and Andrea!!! PS: Previously had a 40' coach conversion; motorcycles with camp trailer; class A gas during previous 20 years...worked on all of them. Getting ready to retire AGAIN, have traveled over 173,000 miles across the US in different modes prior to all the technical capabilities...prior to TPMS, Internet, GPS...having a spouse and a map made live invincable. Now it's going to be a new journey, am very mechanical astute...astounded regarding how there are many designs are "what were they thinking?" Small waste water tanks, laughable inverters, worthless solar chargers.
Needs soft close drawers and a diesel engine...anything over 35’ I’d recommend a Diesel engine for towing capacity
Matt, we have one and we love it... also the Mira Vegatouch system app runs it all from my phone... front driving area is our office away from home, rear garage is perfect for our Pedego E-bikes... we have not needed a tow vehicle yet and we have had ours for a year, going non stop... love the back deck, we use it all the time... and best of all when all the grand children say lets go camping we can sleep 10... it has so many good features that I have not seen in any other RV... and as for driving, I had a 44ft diesel pusher and it was nice... but i am pleasantly surprised with the power and handling of our 2020 Outlaw MB... works great and hauls ass... I would buy it again... Hugs Jim
* Just started using the back deck for exercise with our rubber bands while listening to Darren Hardy motorvational podcasts... great way to start the day while away...
The super C magnitude runs 220,000, this class A runs 170,000 and they both have the same floor plans.
I am So Happy, as I was afraid you guys broke up.
Blessings!
That patio is awesome. I think a great feature for one of these would be an adjustable pully, cable workout station
The darker theme is spot on... The valances and seating is on point... A lighter theme is wrong and the valances resemble a RACING FINISHING LINE FLAG!!!
No half bath in the back? there is room, also the stupid shower top door rail is short I hit my head on those all the time and rip them out and put in a half circle shower curtain high enough not to hit my head, with everything so tall this is something easy to design..this rig will probably be used for boondocking a lot that residental refer is a fail not enough batteries to run it and now you have to run your generator all the time a propane model is way better..Matt this is one of the best reviews you have done explaining the toy hauler mentality and proper usage...kudos to you guys!!
It is nice seeing You with Your Divine Wife, once again, doing reviews, again.
I've been concerned since Not seeing you together at the latest Fla RV Show.
Love & Blessings to You Both.
Shridhar
That is so spacious for tall people, you should have had Will do a cameo just to do the tall test
Y’all are awesome! The patio comment I freaking died 🤣🤣 keep the goods coming yall!
That garage would be my hone gym with a cross trainer and all the gear 👍 love it! 💪💪
Hey Matt and Andrea! At least he jumped from the patio, this time! Yay, Andrea, you got a break! 😅 😊Both awnings and roomy garage are awesome!/The driver and passenger's seats have a cool looking logo and design on them along with the Motif Art!/The kitchen appliances, a great amount of seating, and the shades are fantastic! 🤔The counter top seems a bit small./You can"t get to the patio with the slide-ins and the cubbies are too high./ Gotta move something in the bathroom! 🎺🎺🎺🐴!( I couldn't resist!)
Phew 😅 i sure did lol
I have the Thor 37RB. The Toy Hauler concept in a Class A is a fantastic solution. It's so versatile for tools, motorcycle, attic storage, extra solar and more. On the bad side, make sure to inspect the heck out of any brand new Thor before you take delivery. Their build quality and quality control is atrocious! Oh.. the stories I could tell you..
Love the Outlaw but I really don’t understand putting a gas engine in it. Something that size needs a Diesel engine and the ability to fuel up in the truck lanes of a truck stop.
I like farm house and bright interiors myself but this rig AWESOME! I love everything! I am I'm seeing a bunch of coolers for long stays and more food.
That’s a big RV for a gas engine to lug around! Let alone tow something behind it!
Price seems reasonable for what you are getting.
With that,
I like the outside....awnings, TV, deck, etc.
Love the interior, colors are nice.
Hate the TV location. Again right over the dinette! So if someone is sitting there you can’t see the TV and the speaker is right in their ear!
Only a 5500 generator. This should be a 7000 minimum.
Very lacking on indoor and outdoor storage, the leveling jacks pump is taking up an entire compartment that could be used for storage.
Thanks you guys!
Someone needs to start a channel on build quality of these RV companies. I have read many reviews that prior years of this RV was not built very well like most RVs today. It does look good so the eye candy is there, but will it last is the question.
This motorhome is definitely not for us, but still nice for people who want to accommodate their toys.
Likes:
Garage with patio
Awnings
Kitchen cooktop
Dislikes:
Dark inside
No pantry space
Cheap looking shower at this price point
I agree...the valances are ugly! Don't need any "motif".....nice space too display something! Jacknifes are notoroiusly uncomfortable so why not something better? Like the cooktop.....like the bathroom.
Toy hauler concept is nice and like the patio. Nice bedroom.
I love it!! As a motorcycle guy I feel it's being marketed directly to me. I love everthing about it. With I had the money!!!!!
Wow... Its a big and beautiful RV, but I do agree with Andrea, there should be more kitchen storage in that thing...
Thank you for your comment about purchasing this model due to wanting to not tow a trailer. I truly was thinking that thought with interest of this model. I don't mind towing a trailer and have a couple other models that we are entertaining. The biggest drawback with this one for us was wanting a bath and half model.
Hey Matt - next time you review a Class A Toy Hauler, you should try to lower the rear down to the ground so we can see the rear turn into a ramp. :-)
Love the color love the back bunk area love the colors. Dont like small bathroom and don't like no half bath in the bunk area
Spot on about buying a [plush] class C able to legally pull trailer. Add rear camera to watch trailer also equip entire rig w/ tire pressure monitors.
Will you get a chance to review Newmar’s front engine diesel toyhauler?
I like the one with the cooking and fridge in toy area.
Love the floor plan and outside paint scheme. Love the fact you can sleep like 7 people. Great review Matt and Andrea. 👍
I'm completely addicted to this channel :)
Dislikes: You cannot use the cab seats while the front bunk is down, I don’t want to remodel the bathroom (TP holder) at that price point & finally that price point. Likes: size, sleep space and gasoline engine.
Errrr...the three "dislikes" are pure personal opinion. Interior design is the MOST objective...you guys gotta rely on TMC to know their buyers. And, the "I don't want to tow" preference is a BIG deal to the folks with that preference.
The garage is SO MUCH MORE than just a garage...it is a bonus room, dining galley, bunk-room or guest room, mud room, dog kennel, screen-room, raised deck balony, TV room for kids, and so much more...and worth every penny it adds over a conventional RV.
Otherwise, the review was pretty good.
Love it. Its entertaining when its hard to get the dislikes in beginning. Its not a flaw just keeping it entertaining. Makes me smile so yall did ur job. Great review also.
Love this mh, agree needs pantry (guess you could store items in the garage area). Wasn’t sure if w/d hookups existed
Would you take $150,000 for a 2022??? That's in my budget for a rv like the Outlaw.
me as well
Does anyone else find it ironic that a company like Thor, with consistently bad reviews as a brand is buying up quality icons like Tiffin?
What a lot of people don't know about Matt is that he was one of the best high school basketball players in the state. They called him the white Muggsy Bogues (He looked exactly the same then too lol)
This thing is frickin' AWESOME!
i LOVE that patio! great space to give a small dog some safe outdoor space too
You could put more food in outside storage on ice cause i would assume they have drain holes
Agree with Andrea, the valances need different fabric. Too bad re: toilet paper holder. So many times that's an issue. Manufacturers need to do away with them. Allow owners to buy what works best.
Thor should consider making this in a Super C chassis! There is no manufacturer that makes a Super C Toy Hauler except Renegade, which they make as custom rigs but they are too cost prohibitive.
I’m impressed with the payload capacity. They must have been very careful on the material selection to keep the weight down as the F53 chassis can only handle so much. At this price point one has to wonder if a your hauler fifth wheel wouldn’t give you more living space along with more garage load capacity.
Hi, the GCWR is 30,000 lbs. if that helps you at all. That's the nice thing about the selection of RV's there's something out there for everyone and how they are going to use it. Thanks - Steve from TMC
Great review. You have really educated me about RVs. I agree with you and Andrea🇺🇸
But Matt, this would be a great MH for people like us that ride both motorcycles and bikes, To be able to load both motorcycles and two or four of our bikes and keep them secure, the bikes are carbon fiber and expensive the garage is perfect. Security of toys is a big concern.
Specs say 1450 lbs in the garage, not 1000. 1450 is very low, 1000 would be crazy. At 1000 you'd have to ask why they even raised up the roof because that isn't even enough for a Side-By-Side. 1450 is barely enough.
First timer to your channel. Matt and Andrea, you two are both so perfect in your presentation it really is impressive. Personality plus to both of you-huge ups! Keep up the good work and congratulations on being the best. -Chris
LIKE THE LAYOUT THE GARAGE THE ROOF DON’T LIKE THE COOKTOP NO PANTRY DARK FURNITURE
This outlaw is just phenomenal. Beautiful
No half bath in the garage, no power cord reel, refrigerator. Likes: deck, seating in the back, mid-entry door.
I love the outside colors.
Thank you! Thank you!
I really really want one of these to live In full time
I have this motorhome it’s beautiful
love everything about this RV except the towing capacity..we have a Trike and motorcycle, and a car to pull. I'm seeing that a diesel pusher is just about the only option for us.
Crazy for that type of money 2 cruiser motorcycles cannot fit in here legally weight wise 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ great review guys. Cannot be long before 200 thousand subscribers 👍👍👍👍
Can you please do the 38kb as well. I would love a comparison.
I LOVE the lockable gas fill~
I want the one with a sofa, dinette and a SKYBED and over please Steve!
A nice cabinet against the back wall of the Garage would work perfect for extra storage- like a pantry
I love it! My family would enjoy the heck out of this carrying motorcycles, sxs.
Andrea looking gorg as usual!
Awe thank you 🤗
This one has me a little on the fence. While it has the ability to tow my vehicle & trailer due to the large CCC it's trades a lot of space off for that garage patio. Tough call for someone like me who feels compelled to go diesel but really likes the whole garage thing.
Dislikes:
1) Tight bathroom with a really small toilet. For 200k I want more.
2) No WD hookups. That's a deal breaker for me and anyone thinking of full timing or adventuring.
3) Decor. Not a fan of the sport style seats, upholstery or any of it really.
Likes:
1) Garage area is incredibly well thought out and very versatile. Props on that.
2) The height really helps make a pretty cramped up living area feel a lot more spacious.
3) Two full access doors. Very nice
4) Truma instant hot water heater.
Cheers and thanks for the walk thru.
Joe P.
All of these things will of course make the price go up, but I feel as though the refrigerator should be a large, real residential type. Prefer the French door style. Also, I agree with Andrea, it needs a nice sized pantry. I would like to see a king bed, a washer/dryer, a 1/2 bath and mini frig in the "garage." Other color choices would be a good thing, too. Power recliners would be a nice option. The toilet area looks too tight and I agree with Matt, it does not get the 4P's. I am thinking there are seatbelts on the seats in the garage, but pointing it out would be good.
Agree with you guys. But no power cord reel
these things are getting mor and more expensive, well lets go brandon! this dream of mine owning one and traveling all over usa for 2 years is slowly getting out of reach with the prices of the rv's and gas prices!
I guess since gas has gone down for the last month you can give Biden credit for that, right? Since he must have been to blame for it going up, he must be responsible for it coming down.
@@barrydunn682 yeah biden is the bestest ever! i mean if it was your fault gas prices went up for example 100% and it goes down 10% should i give you credit! lets say something cost 10 dollar, it suddenly icnreases to 20 dollar. and then drops to 18 dollar i should be happy right! f OFF with YOUR CRAP! get back to me when the oil prices are back to before what they are. you came to gloat to early sit back and watch it go higher then before i will then be back
I agree I prefer lighter colors. Maybe white cabinets and grey furniture. I know this video is not on the 38kb but I do like a king bed as well but I noticed the 38kb comes with a sky loft. Can you get it without the sky loft? I prefer high ceilings. Can you also in future videos measure the noise level. I know some RV’ s have an annoying vibration to them when either the generator is on or the engine while trying to sleep. Lastly is the door from the garage to the interior bedroom vapor tight? Do I need to worry about off gas vapors from fuel in my garage leaking into the trailer at night while sleeping? Thanks for letting me rant.
Love you guys! Awesome review 🥰 can’t wait until I can finally upgrade my RV 🤞🏻
Likes
Love the colors, dark leather with red pin stitching
Drop down bunk
Double sink ☺️
Pocket doors to bathroom such a space saver
Great “master bedroom” layout
Great storage
Patio area is awesome
Dislikes
Not sure why they went to the V8 engine
No oven
Should have 1/2 bath in garage area for this price
Love the new channel Matt!!🎉❤
THOR used the MAGNITUDE floor plan, what a novel idea😃
This class a is so cool. I absolutely love the garage and the deck.
One of the coolest toy-haulers I have seen!!
Likes: Ceiling height (I am 6'6ish), the front seats being more buckets than bench, the 3 AC units...
Dislikes: Could have put laundry prep under rear A/C, front stairwell could have cover too for when seat swiveled, no roof access - either rear ladder (it's doable, whether ramp door open or not) or hatch by back bunk.
For '23, to up net CCC, I'd look at extending frame 5' and having a tag axle. Garage could hold maybe 5k that way, with floor beefed up some.
Great presentation! Amazing amount of space inside and out. agree with your likes and dislikes. I did not see where the power cord is connected to the Outline? One great point, Navigation is standard with this Motorhome. Best, Steve & Deb from W.Mass.
Would be great for a travel Nurse!
👍 couch & dinette with swivel chairs & pedestal table- offers a living/dining/kitchen open concept type feeling
👍 seperate entrance garage with sliding screen doors, awning over patio deck & drop down bed and an additional convertible couch/dining option
👍 kitchen appliances: cooktop with both induction and propane burners, convection microwave, and small apt size fridge
👎 lack of pantry and overall storage in kitchen
👎 unable to get to the garage thru the bedroom, when slides are in
👎 no half bath or toilet in the garage area
🤗When you are bringing outdoor toys, you're getting dirty. You don't want light colored interior. The dark interior can be brightened/changed with the color palate/items you choose to decorate/accent with
It’s on my list. My list is long lol. Lots of fifths wheels. lol. Only three class a no b and two c classes
That thing is huge!! It’s a monster. Lots of storage. How do you get your toys out of the garage area? Is there a ramp? The refrigerator seems kind of small for such a big motor home. Very nice setup.
Matt i agree with u about Outlaw
Fresh water is 100 gallons but grey and black are only 40? Seems odd.
your videos are great.
Glad to see every bathroom wall used with cupboards !
Missing the inside private loft though :(
I will have to buy used or wait for Loft to come back.
That garage would make an awesome photography studio and workshop! Let me play the lottery or sell a kidney. (I’m totally joking!) 😆
This is an amazing motorhome. Is it a bit heavy for a gas engine, though?
Hi. The new V-8 does very well with this. We have a number of Outlaw full timers who are very happy with the way it drives and handles. - All you can do is go drive one and se if it fits the way you are going to use it. Thanks - Steve
Thomas, I have one and it works awesome... I would give it a 8 out of 10 for power and pulling... and it is a $100,000 plus less than a diesel...
Okay I just saw the bedroom I'm sold I want one
Omg that's awesome all I need to do is win lotto and you can ship one to Australia for me
Very interesting layout. Agree with your likes/dislikes. Compartment with hydraulics has wasted space. No pantry, but room for cabinets above slides in bedroom (should be option or std., otherwise, waste srorage opportunity. Mechanisms on front overhead bunk and garage bunk/seating seemed very clunky. Impressive driver/passenger area for has class A.
Looks great. Too bad it’s a Thor. 1000 lbs only holds one dresser Harley, second bike would have to stay home. Edit: 1450 lbs is better but two dressers still weigh 1700-1800 lbs). Now do the Newmar toyhauler soon so we can compare. Too bad other manufacturers don’t do toyhauler class A’s (even though I know you don’t like toyhaulers). We could have used a TH but never a Thor and Newmar is too proud of the one they have. Yuk: vents in the floor, D rings are not cast iron (have had those in the floor fail and bikes did fall and cause damage to the bikes and the garage), limited outside storage. Thanks again for doing this Matt & Andrea. Have a good week!
1450 garage ccc
you already did this one! do the KB!
I am looking into a toy hauler like this one. Can anyone tell me how it climbs or drives up hills? My only concern is the power. I absolutely love this Outlaw. My son races dirt bikes and that garage would be perfect. Plus I am looking for a coach to live in for several years, while I shop to purchase a home. Any tips/advise?
Garage capacity is 1450 lbs, not 1k, but still .... that's not a lot at all for most toys and gear.
The average weight of a smart car is 1550 lbs. The garage weight limit is 1450 lbs. Out of the 4000 lbs cargo carrying weight the coach can handle, the garage should be designed to handle 2000 lbs. This would handle any generation of smart car. The newest generation weighs 1850 lbs.