Burning a CD in Windows 3.11 / PC CD Recording history
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- No matter what I did, this one came out long. I haven't forgotten about the PPro and I'll start work on that soon. This video covers the history of PC CD Recorders and demonstrates burning a disc under Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
With a bunch of hardware requirements, ASPI tools, odd software and compatibility constraints, it's a wonder anyone got anything done.
I think the editing on this one turned out a bit rough, but I did this one for the fun of it to get over the K6, it worked, but feel free to skip through things.
Places where I can be found outside of RUclips;
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To best of my knowledge, HP offered the first retail CD burner available to the public. I think it was the 4020i model. It came packaged with a SCSI ISA card . The included software ran in WIN 3.1x only. Windows 95 software was available (Free) as an upgrade. It had no buffer memory so making coasters was a common thing. It retailed for $1199.oo. Blank CDs cost $20.00 each! I remember buying bulk Mitsui gold 100 packs for $900.oo. Not kidding! I operated a BBS back in the day and file storage was expensive. So 20 bucks for 650mb of storage was cheap compared to $600 for a 200mb Seagate hard disk. So a CDROM tower with 7 Roms online was the ultimate storage system. 2x cdrom drives cost around $150. Those were fun times.... And expensive! There was a class action lawsuit against HP from so many complaints that the drive never delivered as promised. I think I received a check for $300.
Now that is very interesting to hear. Yes, the lack of buffer memory definitely sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, I imagine you probably just set it to the lowest speed and crossed your fingers every time. Also definitely never heard of anyone running a BBS from CD-ROMs, a wonderful piece of history there.
I have to wonder where the Yamaha CDR100 fits in, it seems to be about the same age, but also seems to have a buffer, possibly it wasn't as 'easily' available as the HP model.
As an Aspie, i wasn't offended when you were talking ASPI drivers. Also, Zoe has a lotta cables coming from her rear end.
I'd consider that the term wasn't in wide use back then, especially with the word not being properly standardized when the ASPI layers were devised, but at the same time I'm not so sure because the inventors clearly had a sense of humor, evidenced when you look up the origins of the term SCSI.
Those wires are a nightmare, there is actually an additional breakout for the lowest card which is absent in the video.
You'd have a hard time here for sure in the summer. 31c right now here. Usually gets hotter than that in the summer too. Vertical storage, shelves, that would be an answer to for storage space to some extent, just a thought I had while watching the video. That little area behind you where the poster is at, boy i'd be spanning that area with some shelves. Seems like a good space.
You're right, cd burners were expensive back then. The media was expensive as well, prone to failure quite often. I am not sure what use there was for a cd burner in 94 other than backups and archival, and even then you'd be hard pressed to find 600MB worth of stuff, especially when your hard drive was usually 540MB or less, and as far as backup goes, tape was much cheaper per MB for backup anyway. Fast forward to about 97 or so, then cd burners start making more sense. There were a lot of firmware fixes for burners due to all of the different media formulas different companies were using to produce cd-r's. You are also right when you said burners tend to read burned disks better, and that is certainly true too, and again, there was a lot of firmware fixes for cdroms back then too. It was a real cluster fuck back then with cd-r's. Those old computer chronicles in the mid 80's are interesting to watch, talking about the promises of optical technology and how it was going to replace hard drives for storage. I think the first burner I bought went into my K6-200.
It was about that around here the day I filmed outside and much higher in the house, though I know it gets much warmer over there. My old friend from SC used to complain about it being "cold" here in July, although he did often exaggerate for comedic effect. I wanted to span that space above my monitor with shelving, mostly for my stereo as it would free up an entire desk, problem being the wall panels are too thin to take the weight and there are no studs. That whole wall is made from long sheets which are fixed only at the very top and bottom, no studs run vertically. As such, there's nothing to screw into, unless I smash through the wall and figure out a way of fixing to the "corrugated" looking concrete which is behind it whilst dodging the odd patches that stick out a few inches for reasons unknown. No support in the chimney wall or front wall either which, form the corners there, has the nearest stud being one which edges the window frame over 5 feet from the wall you speak of. It's an odd construction this place.
I like the thought of "Burn" referring to long lost 90s dollars. Indeed, tapes were by far the dominant format for backup and still seem quite common in places. Optical was definitely a mess at that point, I've even seen some older drives refuse to read a handful of perfectly fine pressed CDs for no good reason whilst they will read everything else just fine, the makeup of the disc must be different somehow to cause such a problem, but as to how it is different I have no idea. What I do find odd is how that push-loading Mitsumi 1X drive (CRMC-LU005) I have seems to read everything, perhaps simply because it's so slow that it makes as near as no difference to it. But yeah, things eventually leveled out only to be screwed up again instantly by copy protection, a bunch of stupid methods causing some drives to not read or play certain discs, methods which were quickly bypassed by pirates anyway, meaning that once again, anti-piracy served to harm only innocent consumers... Hmm... now I kinda want to rig up the "Burn Complete" message to play Pirates of the Caribbean music or something.
In 1994, the asking price for a single blank cd from kodak was £13, a far cry from 2018 where one can get 25 discs for £4...
If your CeQadrat prog screwed up, you got shiny a gold beermat!
I've got a CD for Nero 4.0 that I copied and put on win3x.org (might be french only though)
Interesting video !
That EZ-SCSI thing from adaptect interests me, where have you found it ?
Hey, thanks. I'll have a look for your disk image at some point, though I was using Nero 3 here. It is possible that a French disc might work fine with the unknown drive configuration thing.
I have no idea where I found EZ-SCSI and currently don't have access to it. I shall try to dig it up for you at some point though if you like as I can just zip up the installer I have. I also have a Win9X version that I used with the K5, each one only works with its intended operating system and won't install otherwise. The Win9X one is cool, if only because the CD Player has this garish neon Jukebox skin.
By the way, you told me that your last YMF724 had spdif output, sb_link and pc speaker input, right ? Well like I told you, YMF744 seem to have often more functionnality than YMF724. Actually, one of my YMF744 has pc speaker input, spdif output and SB_link so it's probably what you're looking for. Maybe I'm wrong, but you might want to look for YMF744 instead of 724 because they seem to be more prevalent to having these 3 options (the other YMF744 I have also have SP_dif output, but also an internal input, a non populated SB_link but no PC speaker input)
I have one, but no PC Speaker input - the pads are there, but the circuitry is missing. The card is also bulky, using two slots for no good reason and whilst I haven't yet tested, I'm pretty certain it's going to be noisy just by looking at it. Also, the pinouts for the extra inputs are unusual meaning I have to make cables for the damn thing with connectors I can't find anywhere or, you know what, I don't actually care anymore, I'll just hard-wire the bastard. Doubt I'll ever get another card like the one I had. Otherwise, with your PSU, shouldn't be too hard to add a relay, just make sure it meets the spec for what you're doing, the last thing you want is for it to arc over and break something.
Thanks !
Do you mind if I may share it with other people ? (if you want, I can mention you)
Yeah, sure, I didn't write the software and I doubt if Adaptec are bothered about it being passed around, so whatever. I'm not fussy about mentions, I'm just the guy who posted a link, so that's up to you.
Interesting to see early consumer burners in action. I'm pretty sure no one but you has made such a demonstration on RUclips that I'm aware of and its quite funny to see that a CD burner from roughly 20 years ago can burn discs better than a crappy modern burner. I've had an awful experience with a DVD drive in a fairly newish laptop one time where it would for some reason not recognize any disc for some unknown reason until I restart the whole laptop.
I've definitely not seen one, though I've seen short clips of some older drives installed in machines, only reading discs though. The problem you speak of is something I have seen, though that was in my old laptop. That drive also used to burn Audio CDs strangely, in that they would work, but the track changes would slip out as the disc went on, so say, Track 15 would end and you'd hear the start of Track 16 - then Track 15 would actually finish on the CD player and the audio would be interrupted. The overlap got worse the longer the disc was and car stereos had great difficulty reading them, skipping as if the disc were scratched the further you went. There was often a visual ring around an inch out from the center on discs burned in that drive too.
I really need to catch up on your videos, and a few other channels, haven't had much time lately.
Meanwhile I've sourced an older burner, one which works with EasyCD, a Yamaha CDR100. There _is_ a clip of one burning a disc, but it was in a newer machine with a later operating system without much technical information.
Thank you for making this video. I had no idea Windows 3.1 software could even burn a CD. Really enjoyed this information.
No problem. As shown, 3.1 definitely can burn a CD, but I certainly wouldn't want to rely on it over what is available now.
I burned a lot of those traxdata cds but they have mostly all failed by now, the silver foil face of the disc has flaked away rendering them unreadable.
Whilst I can't be 100% certain of this, I suspect they made cutbacks past a point. I have some older ones that work fine, but the later ones all wound up with disc-rot despite being stored in the same case and coming from the same guy. This is another reason I suspect the one in the drive was an older disc, but we'll never know because there's no telling if the timestamps are correct - I know for a fact mine aren't as the system date is set to somewhere in 1995.
Very good nerdy stuff, vids like this are hard to find on youtube, this is the real deal from someone who knows things. Didnt know about pressing cd's but yeah they are all silver. Thanks! Very interesting.
Ha, I don't know, sometimes I just don't have anything better to do with my spare time. With this one, I hadn't seen anyone else cover it, which surprised me because optical discs used to be something of a big deal.
Anyway, thanks for the kind words.
I had WFW 3.11 in my first PC (1994), but I never tried to operate CD's on anything other than MS-DOS. Started out with a NEC CDR272 4x CD-ROM drive. It cost ~$250. Took a few years before getting a CD recorder.
I found an old 1997 era external SCSI Yamaha CD Burner and with "TOAST" burning software it works well pretty reliably on an old Motorola 33 MHz 68LC040 processor Apple Macintosh Performa 636 CD.That Performa 636CD is running OS 7.6.1 as the operating system and the software is Adaptec Toast 4.1.2.
It has 36 MB of RAM.
Both I found in thrift stores for around $10 USD each.This is a pre Power PC CPU based Macintosh too from around 1994 to 1995 .
By the way Iomega Zip drives became popular around this time because CD Burners were so expensive and the Zip drives could handle fairly large files sizes at the time.I purchased my first new CD RW drive for my PC in the year 2000.Once CD RW and soon DVD RW drives became inexpensive those Zip drives became quite obsolete as we all know.
Thanks for the excellent informative video on such vintage hardware.
Guess what? That's actually what the die-in-the eye in my avatar is from, an MC68LC040 from a Performa. Yes, I ran into a few mentions of TOAST when researching this, surprising how different the interface looks from what I've seen, though with no Apple machine to hand I can't test it to see if that's right or not.
Zip drives? Bleh, I have a _special_ hatred for those... I'm not saying they're bad, but I figured they wouldn't catch on and opted for Floptical media, reasoning it _had_ to be better because you could re-write them (unlike CDs) and the drive could also handle normal floppies too, Zip didn't stand a chance, it had to be worth the initial outlay. Yeah, nobody else I knew ever owned one and very quickly did stores stop selling the disks. Then I moved to LS120 thinking it would totally kill Zip and we all know how that ended, oh, and local stores stopped selling the disks. I have yet to win a format war, except SD cards, that's the only time I've been right, but then XD was so crappy everyone could see that coming.
Thank you for the kind words. I figured it was at least mildly interesting and worth covering as I've not really seen anyone else going over this. Probably good reasons for that, but whatever, I had fun anyway.
Personally I also went for the LS120 too.
It seems that the Zip drives were far more common though but they could fail
whereas the LS120 Super drives were much more reliable.I still have mine in operational condition.
My Floptical drive was stolen over a decade ago, I seem to think at the same time as an Opteron system I had - yeah, that Pentium D I used for years might never have existed if that hadn't happened - until then I still used the drive out of spite.
I really liked LS120 and was very surprised when none of my friends bought into it, instead moving to upgraded Zip drives they never used anyway as CDs and Ethernet were quite cheap by then and both LS120 as well as Zip were being phased out already. I don't know what happened to my drive or my disks, but I never really used things like that very much anymore once I had a decent network running... Something that actually took a while, the backbone of my network was not moved from Co-Ax until late 2007 during a major gear upgrade for everything after the failure of my old server, a 386, and the final piece of Co-Ax was not removed from the topology until over a year later along with the appropriate media converters.
I saw that there was a LS-240 drive though I never saw one here in the USA.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention though.
I looked at Wikipedia and from an article about it could format a regular 1.44 inch micro disks to 32 MB for storage which is pretty neat.I still have thousands of 1.44 inch micro disks for my vintage systems.
I enjoy your videos.Keep up the good work.
My first p3 (450 MHz Slot1) was able to play DVD's fullscreen without problems without any external help.
First CD burner I ever saw, was in a computer of a friend of mine, its cost was about 450€uro (~500 USD), and took about 45 minutes to burn one. And don't you dare doing anything else with the computer while burning CD's because it most probably crash and result in a useless CD and some lost time. It was an HP double speed reader and burner internal drive with an IDE interface.
old dvd players seemed to be more perfomant back then. My Powermac G3 upgraded to G4/500 really struggled.
450MHz is probably about the point where things like that started to run quite smoothly, likely also helped by how quick most good vendors were in adding some level of MPEG2 acceleration to their video cards. I definitely have memories of MPEG2 playing fine on my old P2-266, but only if the Rage drivers were installed a certain way, and only Media Player, PowerDVD was slow and it was solely a software decoder, implying the limited MPEG2 acceleration of the Rage chip actually did something. I did say the dedicated decoder market was short-lived, didn't I? It seems my suspicions were indeed correct.
The Powermac G3 did use a Rage IIC as far as I am aware, but I am unclear of whether they didn't use the acceleration or whether the system had some other obstacle preventing it from running smoothly, it seems a device called "Bordeaux" was available for this task with its own decoder. Possibly needed, possibly deliberate money-grabbing, I don't know, Macs aren't my field really.
HP burners were the first burners below $1000, though I'm not sure what the specs of that model were.
The first burner on our street belonged to a guy over the road, his machine was always the latest thing, bought with loans like everything else he had (dude was notorious for his debts) - unfortunately he didn't really know what he was doing, so most of his discs didn't work.
The ability to play DVD's via software was probably because it was heavily optimized for SSE instructions which was one of the selling points of the pentium3 (otherwise almost identical to a pentium2, except the clock speed). If i remember well, my graphics card by that time was a nvidia TNT2 Ultra 32MB. I don't remember if it had some kind of video playback hardware acceleration, but I do know I didn't have any specialized mpeg decoder video card.
I remember my first CD burner being a Freecom IDE 4x drive. It worked quite well, and was much more reliable than my friend's crappy HP 2x burner, and about one third the cost, too. I bought it about one year later, though.
I still have my SCSI 2x burner. I used it a Quadra 950.
Thank Microsoft that Windows XP had CD burning functionality built in to Windows Explorer. That's when I started burning.
It does, but that wouldn't get you around a poor quality machine, though the burners might have done by then. There are some advantages to these older systems, like I'm fairly certain you can do things like hidden audio tracks with a bit of patience in EasyCD. Not entirely useful or anything and there are certainly ways of doing it in newer software, too.
My dad bought a Sony CDU-926S back in 1998. We consistently had buffer under-run issues trying to burn disks in Windows NT, because the burning software we had tried to buffer the entire disk into RAM as it went along, so would get 64MB-ish in, start thrashing, and slowly fall behind until the buffer ran out. I moved the SCSI controller and drive into a hacked-together Cyrix based Linux box (something old, probably on Linux kernel 2.2 or so), using the command-line mkisofs and cdrecord tools, and it was flawless.
The cool thing about burning CDs at 1x or 2x is that the required data rate is only 150 or 300 KB/s. In retrospect, I think any problems burning on fast 486s or slow Pentiums is down to early software being garbage. As for burning over a serial port, an 8250 UART would be too slow, but with good supporting hardware you can get 1.5Mbps (or ~187 KB/s) from a 16550. So maybe?
I'd have to suspect that if you used increasingly slow machines, you'd eventually hit a point where the CPU runs out of time to service everything, especially in older machines that lack GUI accelerators - hence SCSI to lessen the load I suppose. If there were any serial burners, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they went with some custom hardware and compression, likely requiring more power, that's only theoretical though as I'm not sure such a burner exists. Since this video I have obtained an older burner, a Yamaha CDR100, so I shall soon find out if EasyCD works as well as Nero here. Being older software I have to wonder if it's more likely to throw problems up.
Oddly, the idea of this bothers me far less than the fact the bezel is quite yellowed and looks out of place in my case, but I don't think the drive is very long for this world and the Matsushita will likely go back in once testing is over.
Seeing quite a few people here telling of their early experiences with burners, it's quite interesting to me because I was late to the party - not even having a CD-ROM drive in my own system until the early 2000s - so many of the difficulties had been nullified by then.
Great Video, I remember paying almost 400 dollars for a CD burner to use in my Gateway P5-133 with Windows 95 so i could copy music CD`s.
Glad those days are over.
Search eBay long enough and I'm sure you'll still find someone selling old SCSI burners for those kind of prices. SATA and IDE drives appear to be worthless though.
Waiting for your Pentium Pro video, I have a Gateway 2000 motherboard with a 180Mhz CPU and 32Mgs of ram. Don`t know what OS to use on it. I Tested and it works. 60 MHZ bus? and CPU really makes a lot of heat
I think I have the same or a similiar huuuuuge TV-Tuner card at my parents place. Friends and me bought 3 of those for shits and giggles cheap many years ago but never got to use them.
That Pioneer DVD burner is a keeper!
Given I've had plenty of newer drives fail on me, I'm not inclined to get rid of it whilst it keeps working. I don't know what the Japanese makers do to their optical drives, but they sure as hell seem to consistently outlast everything else.
The Macintosh counterpart of Easy-CD is Adaptec Toast, which still exists under the guise of Roxio Toast.
So I'm told. The interface looks significantly different, but unfortunately I don't have an Apple system to test it, if I could even find the software to begin with.
Here is a link to the TOAST software just for a reference of course
macintoshgarden.org/apps/utilities/imaging-burning?page=2
I found a June 1997 Sony CDU 928E IDE CD-R drive that is operational/functional with a CD Tray at eBay. However the front panel door was broken when I received it and the pictures on eBay didn't show that.I might ask for some kind of a reimbursement for that defect.
Being that it uses the slower IDE interface I installed it on a June 1997 Gateway 2000 G6-266m system (Pentium II @266 Mhz) running Windows 95C rather than install it on a slower Pentium system.From burning tests it seems to run well with Adaptec EZ CD Creator 3.5c & DirectCD.
This might be one of the first IDE PC CD Burners perhaps.
It could well be. I don't recall seeing an ATAPI drive with an earlier date code anyway, though I wouldn't rule it out entirely. Of course, it's still _technically_ speaking SCSI over the cables.
is that second slot on your psu for a monitor?
On the back? Yes, though you can power anything that uses standard C13/14 connectors within the power limits. These older supplies actually shut off all power to the system when the switch is off, so this socket only provides power when the system is running. Some early ATX supplies had them too, but they were always on. There are monitors out there which actually have a C14 on the end of the power cable instead of a regular plug, generally smaller monitors used with embedded systems.
thanks I learned something new
This is so practical IMO ^^. Maybe someday I'll mod the ATX psu that I have that has this too so it will shut off the monitor when the computer stops
In the 00's I had a Philips DVD player that played VCD so we used to burn a lot of stuff on to CD's, But yeah I rocked a VHS well into 2006, Then ended up buying a VCR back in 2012 to hook up old consoles and the like, Great vid dude.
Thanks. I actually think it was around 2006-2007 was when I finally moved away from relying on VHS, though I kept them to hand in case I needed them again. As the first on my street with a DVD burner and a capture card, I was briefly the guy people used to task with digitizing their crappy family videos and stuff.
It was neat running into you "up road" anyway. You know what was strange about that? As I walked around that corner, the guy in front of you was actually someone else from RUclips I've spoken to before, pretty much the only other time that has happened, small world I guess.
Yeah I had to let on man, I think your content is great, Lots of your stuff inspired me to get on the microphone and have a proper go at RUclips, When I saw you down road I was thrifting for video games, wasn't filming at the time if i was you would have had a cameo on my channel lol
It was also one of the rare occasions I wasn't carrying a camera. I usually carry at least an 808 in case anything interesting happens, nothing ever does - unless I'm not carrying a camera.
a barner?
This was a device sold only to the Amish market, it raises barns. Due to the levels of automation employed it was not popular in the community.
I 1994 i got my first cd recorder there was an Philips CD521 dual speed and the setup was an 386SX 25 with two Adaptec 1542 scsi card because the burner and scsi disk has to been on each own scsi card.
The first year we used an dos cd writer "DosOnCd" program and later then in Win311, also the files system on the first formats was 8.3 with limit directory depth.
That was fun days and long before the smart buffer-under-run was the new thing.
I didn't get why a Fiat 500 would be a girl's car. Compact cars are the best, they consume less fuel and can park anywhere!
A motorcycle does those things and does them better, all without having to look femmy while riding around town.
But no, joking aside, motor vehicles are a lot like computers - just use what works for you.
I remember using an old Pentium 133Mhz MMX on Windows 98 to burn a CD at 24X in 2004 and I was like WTF, that actually works?
Yes matter what I did, this one came out long. I haven't forgotten about the PPro and I'll start work on that soon. This video covers the history of PC CD Recorders and demonstrates burning a disc under Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
With a bunch of hardware requirements, ASPI tools, odd software and compatibility constraints, it's a wonder anyone got anything done.
Hello, Congratulations on your video 🙂.
I'm desperately trying to burn a CD with Windows 3.11, but can't. However, I have the same burner as you.
I have an Adaptec AVA 2904 PCI SCSI controller card. I installed EZ-SCSI 5, the same driver as you for my CD burner, but Nero Burning Rom refuses to burn.
it doesn't offer me any write speed, and the only option available is speed measurement which doesn't change anything. I didn't find the exact same version of Nero as you, I only have 3.0.2.0 and not 3.0.2.1 like you. Version 4.0.3 causes a crash on my machine. Could you help me please, I would be extremely grateful to you?
Sincerely,
Riendutout
Whilst I can't make guarantees on this, as the NAS with the install files on died, I think this is 3.0.2.1 - dxzeff.com/trash/3nero.zip
Serial might be 1385500001310657 or 1385500001310857 though if not, I can always try again to dig it out. The software may claim to be the demo version until you enter a valid serial. Make sure you have Win32S installed and be ready for Nero's GUI to have some layout issues, especially if you played with Windows' metrics at any point.
@@HighTreason610 Hello, and thank you very much for your response. 🙂
Before being able to burn, did you have to run a speed test so that the option to burn the CD was available?
Sincerely,
Rien dutout.
I honestly can't remember. As this burner can take modern CD-Rs, I suppose the worst that'll happen is you end up with a few more places to put your coffee cup down. I have an older burner now that will only take specific discs, that one is far more nerve wracking as they're expensive.
@@HighTreason610 Thank you very much for your answer. 🙂
I tried the speed test with a blank 700MB CD-R, but the test didn't work. Nero has a speed of 15x which is way too fast for this burner.
Even after the test, the burn option remained grayed out. Still, I didn't get any error message indicating a testing issue.
Your very old burner is only compatible with 650MB CD-Rs I imagine. Are the discs he burns playable with a current drive?
Sincerely,
Rien dutout 🙂
Not sure what's wrong, could really be any number of things, unfortunately. As for speed measurement, that's broken, so I'd not worry too much about that, it spits all kinds of random numbers out. This issue actually persists into the present day with PowerISO claiming my laptop burner is way over 100x - perhaps the test data is small enough to fit in the buffer and this skews the result. This would make sense to me, as the same happens with CPUs; if a benchmark routine is small enough to fit in a CPU's cache, the results become inflated as I/O performance (primarily to and from RAM) is no longer being measured.
Yes, the older burner only goes up to 650M and only certain types of them. They do work in modern drives, though read speed seems slower.
Where did you get v 3 of nero?
Nice Flag :)
Well, I like it anyway. The history behind it is interesting (even down to how it's not technically accurate) and at the end of the day, it looks way better than a bare wall. Its reasons for being on that wall, though, are a long story and one you probably don't want to hear. The short version is - it was put there to annoy a liberal type who disliked such flags, it worked.
Being a American I am proud of that flag and so was my German Immigrant family who came here in 1928 ,as well as my Dad who served during 2 wars . Thanks for displaying it Brother .
I bought my first CD burner in 1996 for $600
This seems fairly consistent with what others have reported, it's still a little horrifying to think of, especially once adjusted for inflation - north of $950 today. It seems that around 1996-1998 is when the prices started to fall off, leading to the cheap drives of the 2000s.
This video needs a follow-up at some point, to demonstrate an even older unit.
I was lucky that I got the scsi card for free. Back then you made audio CD's you had to experiment with which brand worked in you car CD player. I was told gold color(on the bottom ) worked the best. You had to watch out for cheap brands as the top would scratch easily . Some times it would just flake on it's own. Of course that caused disc rot to happen very fast.
Disc chemistry and construction could definitely vary considerably. It;s funny you should mention audio CDs, amusingly discs burned with the older drive noted before work in car CD players that don't usually like copies, often being the only CD-R discs to do so. The short version is that 'much lulz' promptly ensue at the expense of the car owner. The burner itself is, indeed, quite touchy about which discs it can write to though and, unlike the Panasonic one here, it tops out at 650MB discs, being unable to track the smaller pitch of the now more common 700MB ones.
I can certainly remember some burned CDs in the 1990s losing their coating, it would just lift off in a bubble and flake away after a while.
My dad had a DVD burner in the early 2000's and a friend who somehow had every new movie on his hard drive.
We all knew at least one of those sorts. Useful people, worth knowing.
Thanks! I'm trying to get a Sony CDW-900E going.
Looks like serious potatoes, so I wish you the best of luck.
Great video, very informative :)
Thanks. It is probably more long winded than it needed to be, but yeah, it is what it is I guess.
What accent do you have 😲
I wish I could answer, but nobody actually knows.
Most likely it is a mixture of many different things. Only a couple of generations ago my family lived in caravans and didn't stay in one place for very long.
It's actually a problem, sometimes, as an alarming number of people where I live speak a particular dialect, local to this area, and they can't understand a word I say.
Fala demais. Pqp.
So do you. Shut your greasy mouth, cowardly fuckwad.
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