I was watching another tuber in Pattaya where the same thing happened. He somehow managed to get the management to put him in another condo for the duration of his lease. He also paid a year in advance. I personally never pay for more than one month in advance, and if utilities are not included, no deal. As I see it, I'm in a foreign country and there's no guarantee that the agreement will be honored. You never know. We have hardly NO rights here. When it comes to money, I trust no one.
Yep I watched the Welsh guys vlogg yday too as he explained all that Cooper is saying here. It’s a pity but you got to remember that this kind of thing will happen from time to time in Thailand. When’s there’s cash around. Not just with farang criminals there but Thais will take advantage of the farangs that they see as naive retirees flush with money. Never pay up front & never loan money out esp to a Thai. Sad…but that’s the way it is…glad the Dusit grp have sorted out other condos there as it’s their responsibility for the staff & invoicing. 🧐🙄🤦♂️
I paid for a condo at Grand Avenue Pattaya through air bnb for 7 weeks. After 4 weeks a lady opened the door and let herself in with her key card and said the rent hasn’t been paid. I showed her I have paid through air bnb. In the end she let me stay and chased up the agent. I wasn’t happy about this. 🤷♂️
Not true. But you just need to be careful. I own flats and I am a tenant and a landl-lady my self and never had a problem. Been coming to Thailand for 10 years and I live here since 2023. Don’t say things that are not true. Thais are wonderful and criminals are everywhere
@@ElisaSerafini I have lived in Thailand for 24 years now and I stand by my comment which was aimed at everyone in Thailand both Thais and foreigners alike.
After having a quick look at the contract you showed on RUclips it's not a legal tenancy agreement in Thailand, it's supposed to be signed by the owner of the condo and also have a copy of the owners id, you might not like what I'm about to say but making recommendations to subs when your not an expert in property letting in the land of smiles is probably not a wise move. I hope this lady gets caught and prosecuted and the landlords get some money back.
But she was so nice, and it's going to go viral! Red flags would have been going up all over for me. How was she able to keep their money? Did they pay her cash? E-Payments to her bank account? I would never pay anyone but the owner, never an employee or an agent. Then paying her for the utilities is EXTREEMELY sketchy. Why wouldn't you pay the utility company?
He sounds like a nice guy that got taken advantage of. He already said the law and the cops and the property owners are on his side. How the fk is he setting himself up for a lawsuit???????????? Some of you keyboard warriors need to keep your advice off the Internet!
Wow! What a scandal. I'm sorry to hear. Expat Tip: In Thailand, like most places, you cannot enter into a valid lease agreement with anyone except the legal owner of the property listed on the blue (or yellow) house book. Ask to see a copy and talk to the owner listed. A power of attorney may be a work around. Ask to see it. Bonus Tip: Electronic bank transfer applications will list the business name of the account holder to see before pressing confirm. Make sure you know who you are sending money to and where. Extra Bonus Tip: I'm not a lawyer. Retain one to review contracts.
Sorry to hear this, but you must do more due diligence, never pay that much upfront- read back through the comments in your original condo threads many of us said don’t pay in advance! I believe you also said in one vlog that you personally guaranteed the agent was great. I know you didn’t mean to but you got carried away and mad promises you couldn’t guarantee!
As a guy who graduated in law, I understand that in the US, an employee is considered a representative of the company. If the employee steals from the company, it is not the customer's liability.
Well, this isn't the USA. The contract says 'made as of owner room # X" and then names the agent, who is clearly not the owner, and the renter's names. The renters knew she was an agent - there is no power of attorney, witnesses or full identification details of either parties. Any Thai lawyer would have taken one look at this and told them that the contract is not worth the paper it is printed on. You can buy standard legal rental contracts in the stationary section of any large supermarket! Did any of these people go to a lawyer? They all got ripped off because they did no due diligence.
Sorry to hear about this Coop, I remember when you did this video and saved it in my Coop Thai file. I hope this all works out for you and Brooke, and everyone else affected. Your great people and I look forward to meeting you folks there one day. Let's hope she gets caught and has too pays the piper, all the best folks.
A friend of mine who's a subscriber sent me your video as I've got thoughts of retiring in Thailand from Australia in a few years. It's plain to see Cooper you're as honest as the day is long...and your courage in the face of this adversity is incredible. This disaster is no reflection on you. You were trying to help people. But sadly there are people like your agent everywhere in the world who only see honest people as potential prey. Let's hope she doesn't pop up at some other tourist location in Thailand and suckers more good people. I suppose a name is usless as she's probably got multiple identities. Anyway all the best Cooper and you've got a new subscriber.
Unfortunately I have personally witnessed Property and Condo Scams in Pattaya . Be very careful with not only Thais but especially Expats who are even worse because they will Befriend you first ! Professional Scammers are very common in Pattaya .
Professional Scum is VERY COMMON IN PAYPAYPAYPATTAYA... lots of tourist dollars,pounds,euros etc floating around with the DREAMS of retirement & that is !!.. easy money ? & why the SCUM is there ?
Well said! be careful with expats. Much too often, they will try to become nice blokes with you and say: "between us, we understand how it works, trust me". Many of them already have a past of crooks & scammers in their home country. Simply do not trust anybody.
My brother and sister and those who were affected are in my prayers. Appreciate you posting this unfortunate incident. You have been upfront and honest with all those you have assisted. This is a setback and hopefully will not affect your reputation or the community you both created... Stand fast, handle it, and move forward. Peace.
I hope Coops does not think this displays on his integrity, he is fault free. I have heard it is one of the biggest real estate scams ever in Thailand.
You would think involving those large sums of money the company would have much better checks and balances in place ???...........the temptation to steal when they earn so little ........and to hear that it's around 10 million baht ..............hope the police can track down her and her family who are benefiting from her crime ..........
Where can she hide? Sounds like she ran off with about 10 million THB. A local, especially if she chooses a more rural province, can live out the remainder of her natural life very comfortably with that amount of money. She can hide just about anywhere she chooses. No person or entity is going to commit the resources to find her compared to what she can spend hiding.
Yes the authorities would already know where she is or has gone to ANOTHER COUNTRY ..? But thailand is complex COUNTRY when it comes to these matters many different departments of police investigation etc etc things move very slowly
If the agent is Miss Jeeb, you have a good closeup video of her face on Darlen's birthday video that the police can post on local TV or newspapers. Her closeup face video starts at around 22 minutes and 40 seconds into Darlen's birthday video.
That must be the same condo the Welsh RUclipsr lives in, he did a vid yesterday on it. He’s not lost out though as they’ve relocated him, he will lose his deposit though if I remember rightly.
Your due diligence didn't pass muster...you encouraged others/subscribers to your channel to follow suit on your recommendation.......You spout information but are not truly well informed......Before you start a RUclips channel and make statements, you gotta know what you're talking about..................You don't and I advised you of that many months ago, but you chose to gloss over my advice.....................those that follow you are suckered in by your apparent knowledge, but trust me, as an expat in the Kingdom for many decades, you really should take a break from advising others and not post content that is consistently ill-informed......................
Cooper thanks for being open about your situation. Just saw your video. If I were in your shoes my heart would skipped a beat. These are the types of situation I want to avoid when I go to Thailand. Hope everything gets sorted out and the owner goes after the agent. Please update us on the situation.
Wow! How sad. Thank you for being transparent about all of this. Also thank you for not answering my email a few weeks ago, or I would be involved also. I hope it all turns out well for those affected
Wow she took you for a right ride...The problem is with any scam even if they get the people the money is long gone. Nearly every scam the money is never returned. Doubt the police will care once the dust settles. Pro tip never lend anyone any money. I wish you well in your future
Yes it will go through all the Thai legal processes and departments that are required to investigate the matter so it could take a long time not short time
I was getting ready to send you two a honeymoon celebration coffee, and then I saw your awful news 😢 So sorry to hear what happened. You both do so much good and help so many (me) who are contemplating retiring to Thailand with all your vlogs and information. Don't let the bxxxards get you down 😮 Best from Tucson, AZ. I sent the coffees, hope you get them, I haven't done it before.
So shocking this happened …… this is the second time this week I’ve heard of this! It concerns me as I’m coming over at the end of March with the intention of renting long term! Hope it works out for you guys and will be watching closely for updates. Best wishes from the UK ❤
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I saw this on a earlier video and I was wondering if it had affected you. Wow, im so sorry. The video I watched earlier, mentioned that someone had loaned her money. I. Sending prayers out for everyone affected.
Now there's a Thailand story . Thank you very much for your candid telling of it . Just goes to show that you must be very careful with deals around property in lovely Thailand .
Sorry to hear the news, hope you, Brooke and the others affected will get things sorted out in your favour. Wishing all those tenants affected all the best. I hope the Thai authorities catch and prosecute her to the fullest.
Hello Cooper just watching your channel 1st time, I was surprised by what happened but not massive. Watching another you tuber he had the same issue with his condo. I live with Thais in area in Jomtien ..and family that why I feel secure .. hope everything works out for you .. got to be careful who you trust .
Absolutely shocking Cooper, so sad that this situation should happen to you and Darlen after all the honest and genuine help you have given everyone. You have created a community of great people and I am sure they will stand beside you at this awful time. I hope everything works out, continue doing what you have started.. helping people and creating a warm genuine community of like minded people. Kindest regards to you, Darlen and Brooke.,God Bless.,🙏🍀🇮🇪.
I'm very sorry this has happened to you guys and your friends. It seems like you guys did everything you could do and were totally above board. it's horrible what folks can/will do to good people. I hope they find her and you guys can recoup your loss!
This happens in all countries you just have to know what legal documents and laws are in the country you are living in not assume laws are the same as in USA uk or Aust
So sorry to hear this news. I was going to contact you as I'm flying next week. Hope the authorities have got her locked up. Seems like they're going to look after you . Hope you get sorted
Cooper, what an eye opener! You took her on trust. so sorry for your dilemma. I also am planning to retire to Jomtein Beach in May, and came last September to set it all up . I hope somehow you are reimbursed. God bless you for your honesty and sincerety. You meant well. I wish you all the best...Kiwi Steve.
Hi Cooper. We met you outside the Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. Very sorry to hear the awful news. Hope it all turns out fine. Keep your chin up. Jim & Andy.
Wow! I just heard a similar story yesterday from another RUclips content creator I believe for Base Condo in Pattaya. This is sad. Sorry this happened to you.
I'm so sorry to hear this, after all the commitment, efforts and help you genuinely provided to all of us, Cooper, you really don't deserve this. I can only imagine how you guys feel right now. My wishes and prayers go to all of you to overcome this awful situation. Darren and Darlen keep on being proud of what you did, you help and generosity has been fundamental for many people of our community.
He ripped off his friends and was in on it with that woman he claimed did it. Thats why he was quick to mention the so called loans and $ going back n forth because he knows law enforcement or any type of investigation would see that. He is a con and fraud and only fooling you guys.
im sorry to be blunt but everyone knows the risks in thailand why would you pay up front and why would you lend the money whos bank account did you send the money to ? and why would you help russian and chinese people with transfering money im sorry for your loss and hope a lesson was learned here
Good morning my brother. sorry to hear about the scam that you as well as everyone else was a part of. Just wanted to tell you that you’re doing a good deed for people and bringing positiveness to RUclips as long as you’re doing that Satan’s always going to try to intervene. Keep doing what you’re doing God‘s got a plan for you. Peace.
Not only DGP 2... ALSO DGP1...I had the same agent....I have sorted everything she used to look after... We have a good owner which helps a lot. We are lucky in that we are only out 18K.
I just heard about this from one of my neighbors in the sauna this morning. I can't believe it. I am sorry to hear that, Coop. I hope that they catch her.
Great video, just saying for 20,000 baht a month you can rent a new build 4 bedroom, 4 bathroom detached house with large garden instead of having to hear noisy neighbours from these apartments.
Yesterday I visited Pattaya and went up to the 32nd floor called Sky 32 Bar in Terminal 21 north Pattaya , The atmosphere was great, both the view and the cool breeze. You can buy drinks from the foodland below, including beer, wine, or spirits to drink. 😊😉🤗🥃🥂🍻🍺🍹🍸🍷🍾
Another vlogger did a piece on this yesterday and he too was offered other accommodation which he took. He did lose his deposit but he did say how good the agent was in sorting out the problem caused by the rogue employee. Good luck in getting the same outcome
Thank you for posting this video. I lent the employee 40,000 baht. I paid my rent up front for 14 months. I paid my water and electric each month. I'm sad for this person. Like any crime, what was the root cause for her dishonesty? I've been scammed many times in my life BUT it won't change my faith in people. You and Darlene are 2 of the nicest people I have ever met. Keep being who you are, your kind souls inspire others.
I am sorry for your loss, Sir. And sorry for all others who lost money on this. I just want to say, as a Thai, a lot of ladies in particular, have gambling issues in Thailand. Maybe we should not speculate, but I think that is a plausible explanation on where the money went. And if this is the case here, it will probably never be recovered. The only chance of that is if this lady is an owner of a condo, house or a car/motorbike. Then there is a good chance for some of it to be recovered. I would have understood when she started to borrow money from tenants, that is a huge red flag, and the amount increased for each time.. All signs of a gambler`s mind. Most likely spent on gambling, lost, and she needed more to cover the losses.. I know many ladies caught up in this, gambling is a really huge issue in Thailand, everything from card, lottery or even sports, but I have never heard of it at this scale. This is just sad for everyone involved. Hope you will get your money back, Sir, and all others. This makes me sad to my bone on behalf of all Thais😥
@country_club_leaders .That was such a touching comment i felt compelled to reply .That you still have empathy & retain faith in people is admirable . I am purely generalizing from many dealings with people involved in company theft .In most cases i concluded they were not dishonest by nature , that there had been a tipping point . It might have been family crisis ,debt incurred from which they saw no way out . It taught me not to judge or be self righteous & that there was a very thin line between black & white , good or bad & i always thanked god i've never incurred debt or had hardship & had to walk that line , because i honestly don't know if i would have gone right or left .
@@sarlina1 Thank you for that insight into Thai life. I had heard of this gambling predilection but I'd assumed it was on a much smaller scale. If it really was about gambling then the woman herself is to be pitied as well as her victims as she must have been trying desperately to win back enough money to pay the condo owners before her dishonesty was discovered. Her increasing losses must have driven her out of her mind & I don't know how she kept herself together over the past few months. I'm guessing that her borrowing from tenants might have been a final desperate attempt to collect some on-the-run cash. Whatever, I don't imagine that she's 'laughing all the way to the bank' as we British say so everyone in this situation ends up losing.
I've been in Vietnam for 17 years. Heard this story many times. It's a shame you just can't trust people. More people means more bad and SE Asian countries are cram packed with people. I pray that lady comes to her senses and returns the money. Take care, God bless.
@@w3s77 360K Baht is around 97K usd, so he lent the agent 100K Baht (27K usd) and paid 70K usd for a years rent? I doubt he paid that much for a years worth of rent? 7:04 in the vidoe shows the contract monthly rental price of 20K Baht which is ~540.00 USD per month. SO I'm thinking the title is click bait
I currently live in Jomtien, but I first came to live in 2003. I have seen numerous real estate issues, especially with several huge off-plan projects they were building in the early 2000s. Many investors lost their deposits and probably have not gotten it back. Just be careful, and only pay monthly, even if it’s a couple of thousand baht more. And another good practice is no more than one month security. But I wish you the best with your problems and hope it works out for you and your affected viewers.
Very sad to hear about this situation, being an agent for over 13 years in Pattaya myself. Make my blood boil, overall Thai people, agents are mostly helpful and friendly. I hope there will be a solution and you will get compensated. Thank you for the video 🙏
You never, ever pay the agent! Pay the owner! You could have asked for advice on chat groups or just go to a local bar and ask folks before dropping all that money here. There are so many documented stories of scams in this country, and some basic research could have prevented this mess. No excuse!
Well a truly great life lesson for all people that watch this. The world is full of scammers and at times we are far too trusting . This lesson should be applied to living in any country in this world. Paying in advance seems like a risky move with any thing we do. Thanks for sharing this
Sorry to hear that First Sergeant Coop. It's not a reflection of you amd Darlen. Crooks are everywhere. Keep your head up. Keep up the great work. I pray all works out for all impacted. So sorry to hear that. Keep us posted. Agape. Sam and Kayla CHAMP
OMG Coop that's a big shock I love your videos and I'm very sorry that they also robbed you and your wife for a lot of money luckily for me the plan was to be there in Thailand but due to circumstances I had to postponed to September this year but I will definitely come your way, thank you for the information and I hope everything will be fine again. your the best. greetings from the Netherlands.
How did she "Move mountains" to get people in a rental property that has vacancies and is reliant on rental income? Do you get how ridiculous that sounds?
Cooper, sorry to hear that awful story. May God keep blessing you and your wife. Now, my question is - Based on that awful experience, if you had to do it all over again, what you think you would do differently?
So sad to hear this happened to you, Darlen, Brooke & Jackie and other residents! Hopefully the Dussit Group, will do everything they can to support all of the victims in this crime and the police can catch the agent & hopefully return the money!
Informative video.. Sad reality is the foreigners will dol out the money for these Thai byrds but foreigners who are in precarious financial situations they will not help. Unfortunately I've seen this all too frequently as foreigners are mostly blind to the reality of these byrds.
No worries Coop, of course not your fault. Im not their yet but hope to get their soon enough and be a part of the Coop Fam and get settled in with your help. These things happen and will help us all in a way to lookout and protect us in future transactions with people.
This is shitty brother. Feel for ya man! I always get nervous paying a years advance. I'm currently looking for a long term rental in Pattaya, but I think I'll avoid that place!
20 years in Thailand must have had more than 50 leases. Every single time I've sent the money to the owner of the condo who's details are on the contract cause you dont make a contract with the agent you make it with the owner. So when you start the video saying you gave the money to the agent i'm thinking how could you even think that was ok from the get go?
There was a bank scandal a few years ago that was probably a bigger scandal. Same sort of thing where an employee stole peoples money but rather than losing rent some people lost their life savings. Be careful abd protect yourself.
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear this. You are all such nice people. Hopefully, she will be caught. The condo association and their insurance company will have to make good on all of the people that are affected financially by this. Otherwise, the complex's reputation will be ruined and people will be afraid to rent there in the future.
You need to realise this is thailand not the USA different laws and way of doing things she was not working for complex she was an agent with a counter who worked on behalf of owners renting and dealing on their behalf it was a separate business to the complex
@@davidridland You're wrong. She worked directly for Dusit Grand Park 2. Cooper states all the facts in his video that he posted a few days later. His video is titled "Must watch in full! Here’s the facts". Check it out.
Can you explain how you have lost 360K Thai Baht when you said you are still being allowed to live at the Condo, I understand you have lost 50K Thai baht out of the 100K Thai Baht you loaned this vile woman but were is the additional 310K Thai Baht coming from, I'd be interested to know?
true...not definitively lost yet but definitely at risk & in Cooper's mind that risk must currently seem high. 'You don't need to move out of your condo' is a verbal assurance from the Condo developer, not a binding contract with the condo owner that he can stay for the remainder of the term he paid for. Plus, RUclipsrs know that thumbnails need to convey as much drama as possible to encourage views & that's now second nature to them. I think we can cut Coops some slack here, poor Guy.
This is what I came here to ask. If you watch part 2, he and everyone else that's been updated so far are being allowed to stay in their condos at no extra charge. And even though they're not getting their deposits back, they're being allowed to stay an extra month to offset that. I see how this is a big headache and stressful for everyone involved, so I do sympathize. However, as @ferney2936 states, it's exaggerated for views, and I don't blame any youtuber for that necessarily, and I don't blame them for soliciting donations to their channel in appreciation for the content the produce, but if the exaggeration being used to induce more donations, I find that dishonest.
@@CoopersThaiAdventure I realize you didn't explicitly ask for donations in response to this scam. I agree that this was indeed a scam. I also sympathize that it's a big headache and that you and other renters, as well as condo owners, were wronged by this agent. But you never explain how you arrived at 360k lost (I watched part 2 update and still missed it if it's there). It's none of anyone's business except for the fact that you include it in the title of the video. That's the only reason @fatwallet and I even ask. And even though there was no mention of donation request, the qr code is sitting there in the lower corner by the title saying you lost 360k baht. So it APPEARS to imply the need for $ even if that's not what you are implying. Losing 50+k baht sucks, don't get me wrong. Just wondering what I missed with the other 310k baht. Disclaimer: I'm new to your channel. I think it popped up in my feed because I saw another youtuber posting about this. Seems like he, you, and everyone so far is not losing money or accommodations. Also seems like an open and shut case against the agent and I hope the owners get their rent money from her (or the condo group if they're compensating the owners for their loss). I will also check out more of your videos and support with views, likes, etc. Best of luck resolving this mess and maybe I'll see you and others on my next trip to Pattaya/Pratamnak/Jomtien. Cheers!
hi sorry to hear about the problems ur having . could i ask u about the cruise y7ou and ur wife went on, would you recommend it and where did u pick the boat up from ? thx
whatever happened to the woman who scammed everyone???? i watched the video and i dont believe it was mentioned. you guys will be fine!!!!!! you are good people
wow i didnt see it coming so sorry to hear what happened no reason to blame yourself your such a good natured person i know it is hard to deal with but keep your chin up
I wonder if there were any other steps or safeguards that can be taken in the future. Perhaps a system of checks and balances.Any suggestions from the lawyer or management company of what could be done in the future to prevent a dishonest agent from doing such thing again? In a country with such low wages and prevalent poverty it would seem it would be a higher likelihood of getting scammed. Perhaps just paying month to month is a safer bet?
someone giving you a discount for a yearly payment when they pay the condo monthly in your place is a major red flag lol, and on top of that you lended her money... jezus christ
Sad story, Coop. I’ve heard that it’s best to secure the services of a Thai lawyer experienced in real estate law before engaging in any lease contracts. I’m actually surprised that such scams are not more prevalent in Thailand.
If you have her mobile phone number then the Police can legally find her location IF there is a formal legal case against her..easy they speak to the phone network provider - I know a guy who found his Thai wife who ran off with their kids without his knowledge + found them this way 😮
Sorry to hear mate and I hope the complex management do the right thing for you all as this is not good news for the thai people and this video is going to be seen all over the world
How could Dusit let their agent collect the money into their personal bank account. Was there no Dusit company bank account that is monitored and controlled. Something seems really off there. And how could it go that long with dusit not catching it. Sure seems like some incompetence in Dusit to not have the proper procedures and controls in place.
I was watching another tuber in Pattaya where the same thing happened. He somehow managed to get the management to put him in another condo for the duration of his lease. He also paid a year in advance. I personally never pay for more than one month in advance, and if utilities are not included, no deal. As I see it, I'm in a foreign country and there's no guarantee that the agreement will be honored. You never know. We have hardly NO rights here. When it comes to money, I trust no one.
Yep I watched the Welsh guys vlogg yday too as he explained all that Cooper is saying here. It’s a pity but you got to remember that this kind of thing will happen from time to time in Thailand. When’s there’s cash around. Not just with farang criminals there but Thais will take advantage of the farangs that they see as naive retirees flush with money. Never pay up front & never loan money out esp to a Thai. Sad…but that’s the way it is…glad the Dusit grp have sorted out other condos there as it’s their responsibility for the staff & invoicing. 🧐🙄🤦♂️
I paid for a condo at Grand Avenue Pattaya through air bnb for 7 weeks. After 4 weeks a lady opened the door and let herself in with her key card and said the rent hasn’t been paid. I showed her I have paid through air bnb. In the end she let me stay and chased up the agent. I wasn’t happy about this. 🤷♂️
what did she look like?
First lesson you must learn is you can never, ever trust anyone here in Thailand. Especially when it comes to money.
Not true. But you just need to be careful. I own flats and I am a tenant and a landl-lady my self and never had a problem. Been coming to Thailand for 10 years and I live here since 2023. Don’t say things that are not true. Thais are wonderful and criminals are everywhere
I agree
@@ElisaSerafini I have lived in Thailand for 24 years now and I stand by my comment which was aimed at everyone in Thailand both Thais and foreigners alike.
Money is God in Thailand, the worship of money has no end.
Unfortunately true, they will always f things up when money is involved
After having a quick look at the contract you showed on RUclips it's not a legal tenancy agreement in Thailand, it's supposed to be signed by the owner of the condo and also have a copy of the owners id, you might not like what I'm about to say but making recommendations to subs when your not an expert in property letting in the land of smiles is probably not a wise move. I hope this lady gets caught and prosecuted and the landlords get some money back.
he setting him self up to be sued
But she was so nice, and it's going to go viral!
Red flags would have been going up all over for me. How was she able to keep their money? Did they pay her cash? E-Payments to her bank account? I would never pay anyone but the owner, never an employee or an agent. Then paying her for the utilities is EXTREEMELY sketchy. Why wouldn't you pay the utility company?
@@ggregd guess why?
He sounds like a nice guy that got taken advantage of. He already said the law and the cops and the property owners are on his side. How the fk is he setting himself up for a lawsuit???????????? Some of you keyboard warriors need to keep your advice off the Internet!
Wow! What a scandal. I'm sorry to hear.
Expat Tip: In Thailand, like most places, you cannot enter into a valid lease agreement with anyone except the legal owner of the property listed on the blue (or yellow) house book. Ask to see a copy and talk to the owner listed. A power of attorney may be a work around. Ask to see it.
Bonus Tip: Electronic bank transfer applications will list the business name of the account holder to see before pressing confirm. Make sure you know who you are sending money to and where.
Extra Bonus Tip: I'm not a lawyer. Retain one to review contracts.
Don't wire money or write a check to someone's personal account.
@@stolennimbus Exactly. A basic rule in this situation.
Why pay one year in advance? You are responsible for the lost of others. Never promote anything to foreigners that you don't have control over.
Don't ever promote any apartments while in Thailand. Even if u like it so much
Why is this? (Good to learn why)
Sorry to hear this, but you must do more due diligence, never pay that much upfront- read back through the comments in your original condo threads many of us said don’t pay in advance! I believe you also said in one vlog that you personally guaranteed the agent was great. I know you didn’t mean to but you got carried away and mad promises you couldn’t guarantee!
What happened to the agent.?
@@davidridland bought one of the condos - CASH
As a guy who graduated in law, I understand that in the US, an employee is considered a representative of the company. If the employee steals from the company, it is not the customer's liability.
Well, this isn't the USA. The contract says 'made as of owner room # X" and then names the agent, who is clearly not the owner, and the renter's names. The renters knew she was an agent - there is no power of attorney, witnesses or full identification details of either parties. Any Thai lawyer would have taken one look at this and told them that the contract is not worth the paper it is printed on. You can buy standard legal rental contracts in the stationary section of any large supermarket! Did any of these people go to a lawyer? They all got ripped off because they did no due diligence.
The same in the U.K.
Yeah right. You can't even use correct grammar!
@@AugieBenDougie-wk9pr 🤣
At the end of the day, she stole, which IS an offence.
Nobody in their right mind pays a year up front in Thailand mate, you got taken for a ride there.
Sorry to hear about this Coop, I remember when you did this video and saved it in my Coop Thai file. I hope this all works out for you and Brooke, and everyone else affected. Your great people and I look forward to meeting you folks there one day. Let's hope she gets caught and has too pays the piper, all the best folks.
A friend of mine who's a subscriber sent me your video as I've got thoughts of retiring in Thailand from Australia in a few years. It's plain to see Cooper you're as honest as the day is long...and your courage in the face of this adversity is incredible. This disaster is no reflection on you. You were trying to help people. But sadly there are people like your agent everywhere in the world who only see honest people as potential prey. Let's hope she doesn't pop up at some other tourist location in Thailand and suckers more good people. I suppose a name is usless as she's probably got multiple identities. Anyway all the best Cooper and you've got a new subscriber.
Thank you brother. 👍❤️👍
Unfortunately I have personally witnessed Property and Condo Scams in Pattaya . Be very careful with not only Thais but especially Expats who are even worse because they will Befriend you first ! Professional Scammers are very common in Pattaya .
Professional Scum is VERY COMMON IN PAYPAYPAYPATTAYA... lots of tourist dollars,pounds,euros etc floating around with the DREAMS of retirement & that is !!.. easy money ? & why the SCUM is there ?
Well said! be careful with expats. Much too often, they will try to become nice blokes with you and say: "between us, we understand how it works, trust me". Many of them already have a past of crooks & scammers in their home country. Simply do not trust anybody.
My brother and sister and those who were affected are in my prayers. Appreciate you posting this unfortunate incident. You have been upfront and honest with all those you have assisted. This is a setback and hopefully will not affect your reputation or the community you both created...
Stand fast, handle it, and move forward. Peace.
I hope Coops does not think this displays on his integrity, he is fault free. I have heard it is one of the biggest real estate scams ever in Thailand.
You would think involving those large sums of money the company would have much better checks and balances in place ???...........the temptation to steal when they earn so little ........and to hear that it's around 10 million baht ..............hope the police can track down her and her family who are benefiting from her crime ..........
Where can she hide? There must be enough information about her address and her family and also tons of images and videos of her.
And ID card
Where can she hide? Sounds like she ran off with about 10 million THB. A local, especially if she chooses a more rural province, can live out the remainder of her natural life very comfortably with that amount of money. She can hide just about anywhere she chooses. No person or entity is going to commit the resources to find her compared to what she can spend hiding.
Yes the authorities would already know where she is or has gone to ANOTHER COUNTRY ..? But thailand is complex COUNTRY when it comes to these matters many different departments of police investigation etc etc things move very slowly
If the agent is Miss Jeeb, you have a good closeup video of her face on Darlen's birthday video that the police can post on local TV or newspapers. Her closeup face video starts at around 22 minutes and 40 seconds into Darlen's birthday video.
she'll be close by, she's got around half a million bucks.
That must be the same condo the Welsh RUclipsr lives in, he did a vid yesterday on it. He’s not lost out though as they’ve relocated him, he will lose his deposit though if I remember rightly.
I'm very sorry for your loss... This gives a good lesson for everyone that don't trust anybody in Thailand 😔
Your due diligence didn't pass muster...you encouraged others/subscribers to your channel to follow suit on your recommendation.......You spout information but are not truly well informed......Before you start a RUclips channel and make statements, you gotta know what you're talking about..................You don't and I advised you of that many months ago, but you chose to gloss over my advice.....................those that follow you are suckered in by your apparent knowledge, but trust me, as an expat in the Kingdom for many decades, you really should take a break from advising others and not post content that is consistently ill-informed......................
It is scary nowadays that money and greed still rule. No one is safe or trusted.
Cooper thanks for being open about your situation. Just saw your video. If I were in your shoes my heart would skipped a beat. These are the types of situation I want to avoid when I go to Thailand. Hope everything gets sorted out and the owner goes after the agent. Please update us on the situation.
Wow! How sad. Thank you for being transparent about all of this. Also thank you for not answering my email a few weeks ago, or I would be involved also. I hope it all turns out well for those affected
We're glad we didn't get involved either. So sad...
Wow she took you for a right ride...The problem is with any scam even if they get the people the money is long gone. Nearly every scam the money is never returned. Doubt the police will care once the dust settles. Pro tip never lend anyone any money. I wish you well in your future
Yes it will go through all the Thai legal processes and departments that are required to investigate the matter so it could take a long time not short time
I was getting ready to send you two a honeymoon celebration coffee, and then I saw your awful news 😢 So sorry to hear what happened. You both do so much good and help so many (me) who are contemplating retiring to Thailand with all your vlogs and information. Don't let the bxxxards get you down 😮 Best from Tucson, AZ. I sent the coffees, hope you get them, I haven't done it before.
So shocking this happened …… this is the second time this week I’ve heard of this!
It concerns me as I’m coming over at the end of March with the intention of renting long term!
Hope it works out for you guys and will be watching closely for updates.
Best wishes from the UK ❤
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I saw this on a earlier video and I was wondering if it had affected you. Wow, im so sorry. The video I watched earlier, mentioned that someone had loaned her money. I. Sending prayers out for everyone affected.
Now there's a Thailand story . Thank you very much for your candid telling of it . Just goes to show that you must be very careful with deals around property in lovely Thailand .
Sorry to hear the news, hope you, Brooke and the others affected will get things sorted out in your favour. Wishing all those tenants affected all the best. I hope the Thai authorities catch and prosecute her to the fullest.
Hello Cooper just watching your channel 1st time, I was surprised by what happened but not massive. Watching another you tuber he had the same issue with his condo. I live with Thais in area in Jomtien ..and family that why I feel secure .. hope everything works out for you .. got to be careful who you trust .
Absolutely shocking Cooper, so sad that this situation should happen to you and Darlen after all the honest and genuine help you have given everyone. You have created a community of great people and I am sure they will stand beside you at this awful time.
I hope everything works out, continue doing what you have started.. helping people and creating a warm genuine community of like minded people.
Kindest regards to you, Darlen and Brooke.,God Bless.,🙏🍀🇮🇪.
Coop I’m not crazy about paying my rent one year in advance , I’m thinking 2 months at the most
Sorry to hear this. This was the video that made me subscribe to your channel. Here the law will chase the company to refund your money.
I'm very sorry this has happened to you guys and your friends. It seems like you guys did everything you could do and were totally above board. it's horrible what folks can/will do to good people. I hope they find her and you guys can recoup your loss!
This happens in all countries you just have to know what legal documents and laws are in the country you are living in not assume laws are the same as in USA uk or Aust
So sorry to hear this news. I was going to contact you as I'm flying next week. Hope the authorities have got her locked up. Seems like they're going to look after you . Hope you get sorted
Cooper, what an eye opener! You took her on trust. so sorry for your dilemma. I also am planning to retire to Jomtein Beach in May, and came last September to set it all up . I hope somehow you are reimbursed. God bless you for your honesty and sincerety. You meant well. I wish you all the best...Kiwi Steve.
Rent a house, living in a condo will send you loopy after a few months
So glad you got sorted you seem a decent guy , another channel did a vlog on this Welshboy web by.Good luck to you , just subscribed
Thx Kev. Much appreciated brother 👍❤️👍
Hi Cooper. We met you outside the Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. Very sorry to hear the awful news. Hope it all turns out fine. Keep your chin up. Jim & Andy.
Wow! I just heard a similar story yesterday from another RUclips content creator I believe for Base Condo in Pattaya. This is sad. Sorry this happened to you.
We got a lawyer and won 👍
I'm so sorry to hear this, after all the commitment, efforts and help you genuinely provided to all of us, Cooper, you really don't deserve this. I can only imagine how you guys feel right now. My wishes and prayers go to all of you to overcome this awful situation. Darren and Darlen keep on being proud of what you did, you help and generosity has been fundamental for many people of our community.
He ripped off his friends and was in on it with that woman he claimed did it. Thats why he was quick to mention the so called loans and $ going back n forth because he knows law enforcement or any type of investigation would see that. He is a con and fraud and only fooling you guys.
No doubt she had a gambling problem
Who gives a crap about her gambling problem...
@@johnalex5466 I was trying to suggest a possible motivation
or....shes just a scammer ?
im sorry to be blunt but everyone knows the risks in thailand why would you pay up front and why would you lend the money
whos bank account did you send the money to ? and why would you help russian and chinese people with transfering money
im sorry for your loss and hope a lesson was learned here
a soon as she said that you know it's a scam
Sorry you guys had to go through that. Thank you for sharing this story.
Thank you for watching. Hopefully you choose to subscribe and watch many more 👍❤️👍
Sorry for your bad luck, appreciate your transparency and humility whilst making such a difficult video.
Good morning my brother. sorry to hear about the scam that you as well as everyone else was a part of. Just wanted to tell you that you’re doing a good deed for people and bringing positiveness to RUclips as long as you’re doing that Satan’s always going to try to intervene. Keep doing what you’re doing God‘s got a plan for you.
Peace.
Not only DGP 2... ALSO DGP1...I had the same agent....I have sorted everything she used to look after... We have a good owner which helps a lot. We are lucky in that we are only out 18K.
So sorry to hear that Cooper your such a good human please don't let this blacken your wonderful heart 💜
Great video !!!!
I just heard about this from one of my neighbors in the sauna this morning. I can't believe it. I am sorry to hear that, Coop. I hope that they catch her.
Great video, just saying for 20,000 baht a month you can rent a new build 4 bedroom, 4 bathroom detached house with large garden instead of having to hear noisy neighbours from these apartments.
Agree, condos are ok for a holiday but not for living in, a house with a garden is the way to go IMO.
Hey Cooper, I'm so sorry for you loss, hopefully she will be found and brought to justice.
As you said, this could not have been foreseen.
Yesterday I visited Pattaya and went up to the 32nd floor called Sky 32 Bar in Terminal 21 north Pattaya , The atmosphere was great, both the view and the cool breeze. You can buy drinks from the foodland below, including beer, wine, or spirits to drink. 😊😉🤗🥃🥂🍻🍺🍹🍸🍷🍾
That the good life. Enjoy brother 👍❤️👍
Another vlogger did a piece on this yesterday and he too was offered other accommodation which he took. He did lose his deposit but he did say how good the agent was in sorting out the problem caused by the rogue employee. Good luck in getting the same outcome
Thank you for posting this video. I lent the employee 40,000 baht. I paid my rent up front for 14 months. I paid my water and electric each month.
I'm sad for this person. Like any crime, what was the root cause for her dishonesty? I've been scammed many times in my life BUT it won't change my faith in people.
You and Darlene are 2 of the nicest people I have ever met. Keep being who you are, your kind souls inspire others.
I am sorry for your loss, Sir. And sorry for all others who lost money on this. I just want to say, as a Thai, a lot of ladies in particular, have gambling issues in Thailand. Maybe we should not speculate, but I think that is a plausible explanation on where the money went. And if this is the case here, it will probably never be recovered. The only chance of that is if this lady is an owner of a condo, house or a car/motorbike. Then there is a good chance for some of it to be recovered. I would have understood when she started to borrow money from tenants, that is a huge red flag, and the amount increased for each time.. All signs of a gambler`s mind. Most likely spent on gambling, lost, and she needed more to cover the losses.. I know many ladies caught up in this, gambling is a really huge issue in Thailand, everything from card, lottery or even sports, but I have never heard of it at this scale. This is just sad for everyone involved. Hope you will get your money back, Sir, and all others. This makes me sad to my bone on behalf of all Thais😥
@country_club_leaders .That was such a touching comment i felt compelled to reply .That you still have empathy & retain faith in people is admirable .
I am purely generalizing from many dealings with people involved in company theft .In most cases i concluded they were not dishonest by nature , that there had been a tipping point . It might have been family crisis ,debt incurred from which they saw no way out .
It taught me not to judge or be self righteous & that there was a very thin line between black & white , good or bad & i always thanked god i've never incurred debt or had hardship & had to walk that line , because i honestly don't know if i would have gone right or left .
I'm so sorry this happened, so can you have a video on how we can avoid these scams ?
@@sarlina1 Thank you for that insight into Thai life. I had heard of this gambling predilection but I'd assumed it was on a much smaller scale. If it really was about gambling then the woman herself is to be pitied as well as her victims as she must have been trying desperately to win back enough money to pay the condo owners before her dishonesty was discovered. Her increasing losses must have driven her out of her mind & I don't know how she kept herself together over the past few months. I'm guessing that her borrowing from tenants might have been a final desperate attempt to collect some on-the-run cash. Whatever, I don't imagine that she's 'laughing all the way to the bank' as we British say so everyone in this situation ends up losing.
I do the scamming and stealing.
I've been in Vietnam for 17 years. Heard this story many times. It's a shame you just can't trust people. More people means more bad and SE Asian countries are cram packed with people. I pray that lady comes to her senses and returns the money. Take care, God bless.
I doubt it but stranger things happen 👍❤️👍
There is another channel called welshboywebby. He just posted a video on the exact same topic. More than likely it was the same agent.
Sorry to hear the news coop.was a pleasure to meet you in Frasers bar
Sorry to hear that Cooper,we support you and your still the man take care always .
I watched all of the video, but I'm still not clear on how you lost 360k.
One year lease and lent agent 100k.
@@w3s77 So if he has acceptable accommodation for a year at no further cost his real loss is negligible. Correct?
Baht not dollars
@@w3s77 360K Baht is around 97K usd, so he lent the agent 100K Baht (27K usd) and paid 70K usd for a years rent? I doubt he paid that much for a years worth of rent? 7:04 in the vidoe shows the contract monthly rental price of 20K Baht which is ~540.00 USD per month. SO I'm thinking the title is click bait
Sorry to hear about this incident, brother. I hope the management will look after whoever is affected.
I currently live in Jomtien, but I first came to live in 2003. I have seen numerous real estate issues, especially with several huge off-plan projects they were building in the early 2000s. Many investors lost their deposits and probably have not gotten it back. Just be careful, and only pay monthly, even if it’s a couple of thousand baht more. And another good practice is no more than one month security. But I wish you the best with your problems and hope it works out for you and your affected viewers.
Very sad to hear about this situation, being an agent for over 13 years in Pattaya myself. Make my blood boil, overall Thai people, agents are mostly helpful and friendly. I hope there will be a solution and you will get compensated. Thank you for the video 🙏
Yes there are good and bad people in every country ☺
You never, ever pay the agent! Pay the owner! You could have asked for advice on chat groups or just go to a local bar and ask folks before dropping all that money here. There are so many documented stories of scams in this country, and some basic research could have prevented this mess. No excuse!
Well a truly great life lesson for all people that watch this. The world is full of scammers and at times we are far too trusting . This lesson should be applied to living in any country in this world. Paying in advance seems like a risky move with any thing we do. Thanks for sharing this
Thanks for sharing Dean 👍❤️👍
Sorry to hear that First Sergeant Coop. It's not a reflection of you amd Darlen. Crooks are everywhere. Keep your head up. Keep up the great work. I pray all works out for all impacted. So sorry to hear that. Keep us posted. Agape. Sam and Kayla CHAMP
OMG Coop that's a big shock I love your videos and I'm very sorry that they also robbed you and your wife for a lot of money luckily for me the plan was to be there in Thailand but due to circumstances I had to postponed to September this year but I will definitely come your way, thank you for the information and I hope everything will be fine again.
your the best.
greetings from the Netherlands.
Lot of scammers in Pattaya real estate business
Hi Coops. Sorry to hear that this has happened. I hope it works out for your family and your subscribers. Take care 🤝
Thank you Rob. Much appreciated brother 👍👍
How did she "Move mountains" to get people in a rental property that has vacancies and is reliant on rental income? Do you get how ridiculous that sounds?
Nope. You weren’t here. Matt
Cooper, sorry to hear that awful story. May God keep blessing you and your wife. Now, my question is - Based on that awful experience, if you had to do it all over again, what you think you would do differently?
I would have made sure her boss knew. 👍
oh dear COOPER LESSON LEARNED........ NEVER LEND MONEY IN THAILAND!
Utterly gutted for you and Darlen with what's happened Coop! I hope that you're both able to end up with a positive outcome from all of this :(
So sad to hear this happened to you, Darlen, Brooke & Jackie and other residents! Hopefully the Dussit Group, will do everything they can to support all of the victims in this crime and the police can catch the agent & hopefully return the money!
Informative video.. Sad reality is the foreigners will dol out the money for these Thai byrds but foreigners who are in precarious financial situations they will not help. Unfortunately I've seen this all too frequently as foreigners are mostly blind to the reality of these byrds.
Use a rental office and contact owner if in doubt 👍❤️👍
No worries Coop, of course not your fault. Im not their yet but hope to get their soon enough and be a part of the Coop Fam and get settled in with your help. These things happen and will help us all in a way to lookout and protect us in future transactions with people.
Hang in there guys. I feel for both of you. Sending positive vibes your way.
Take care
Chat soon... Chris
This is shitty brother. Feel for ya man! I always get nervous paying a years advance. I'm currently looking for a long term rental in Pattaya, but I think I'll avoid that place!
Gosh ! What a horror story-Praying it will work out- i feel bad for you.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I think you and the rest of the affected people should stay united and keep a lawyer as a group...Just in case!
20 years in Thailand must have had more than 50 leases. Every single time I've sent the money to the owner of the condo who's details are on the contract cause you dont make a contract with the agent you make it with the owner. So when you start the video saying you gave the money to the agent i'm thinking how could you even think that was ok from the get go?
There was a bank scandal a few years ago that was probably a bigger scandal. Same sort of thing where an employee stole peoples money but rather than losing rent some people lost their life savings. Be careful abd protect yourself.
Wow. Hope it all works out for everyone.
It did in the end Don 👍❤️👍
I am so sorry for all of you. Praying you all have this sorted out ❤
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear this. You are all such nice people. Hopefully, she will be caught. The condo association and their insurance company will have to make good on all of the people that are affected financially by this. Otherwise, the complex's reputation will be ruined and people will be afraid to rent there in the future.
why would the complex`s reputation be ruined , it was an employee not the owner .
@@bravefart1000 I was right. Watch Cooper's updated video on this matter.
The owners are responsible for their employee's actions.
You need to realise this is thailand not the USA different laws and way of doing things she was not working for complex she was an agent with a counter who worked on behalf of owners renting and dealing on their behalf it was a separate business to the complex
@@davidridland You're wrong. She worked directly for Dusit Grand Park 2. Cooper states all the facts in his video that he posted a few days later. His video is titled "Must watch in full! Here’s the facts". Check it out.
Thanks, Learning from your lesson.
Can you explain how you have lost 360K Thai Baht when you said you are still being allowed to live at the Condo, I understand you have lost 50K Thai baht out of the 100K Thai Baht you loaned this vile woman but were is the additional 310K Thai Baht coming from, I'd be interested to know?
true...not definitively lost yet but definitely at risk & in Cooper's mind that risk must currently seem high. 'You don't need to move out of your condo' is a verbal assurance from the Condo developer, not a binding contract with the condo owner that he can stay for the remainder of the term he paid for. Plus, RUclipsrs know that thumbnails need to convey as much drama as possible to encourage views & that's now second nature to them. I think we can cut Coops some slack here, poor Guy.
This is what I came here to ask. If you watch part 2, he and everyone else that's been updated so far are being allowed to stay in their condos at no extra charge. And even though they're not getting their deposits back, they're being allowed to stay an extra month to offset that. I see how this is a big headache and stressful for everyone involved, so I do sympathize. However, as @ferney2936 states, it's exaggerated for views, and I don't blame any youtuber for that necessarily, and I don't blame them for soliciting donations to their channel in appreciation for the content the produce, but if the exaggeration being used to induce more donations, I find that dishonest.
We never once asked for any donations! I never said that im asking donations on both videos FYI
Please watch the update video and make sure that you watched it until the end.
@@CoopersThaiAdventure I realize you didn't explicitly ask for donations in response to this scam. I agree that this was indeed a scam. I also sympathize that it's a big headache and that you and other renters, as well as condo owners, were wronged by this agent. But you never explain how you arrived at 360k lost (I watched part 2 update and still missed it if it's there). It's none of anyone's business except for the fact that you include it in the title of the video. That's the only reason @fatwallet and I even ask. And even though there was no mention of donation request, the qr code is sitting there in the lower corner by the title saying you lost 360k baht. So it APPEARS to imply the need for $ even if that's not what you are implying. Losing 50+k baht sucks, don't get me wrong. Just wondering what I missed with the other 310k baht.
Disclaimer: I'm new to your channel. I think it popped up in my feed because I saw another youtuber posting about this. Seems like he, you, and everyone so far is not losing money or accommodations. Also seems like an open and shut case against the agent and I hope the owners get their rent money from her (or the condo group if they're compensating the owners for their loss). I will also check out more of your videos and support with views, likes, etc. Best of luck resolving this mess and maybe I'll see you and others on my next trip to Pattaya/Pratamnak/Jomtien. Cheers!
hi sorry to hear about the problems ur having . could i ask u about the cruise y7ou and ur wife went on, would you recommend it and where did u pick the boat up from ? thx
whatever happened to the woman who scammed everyone???? i watched the video and i dont believe it was mentioned. you guys will be fine!!!!!! you are good people
Thank you Mike. We are still waiting to hear what happens 👍
Wow unbelievable what a scam! I feel sorry for all you people losing that money. No blame on you Cooper.
wow i didnt see it coming so sorry to hear what happened no reason to blame yourself your such a good natured person i know it is hard to deal with but keep your chin up
I wonder if there were any other steps or safeguards that can be taken in the future. Perhaps a system of checks and balances.Any suggestions from the lawyer or management company of what could be done in the future to prevent a dishonest agent from doing such thing again? In a country with such low wages and prevalent poverty it would seem it would be a higher likelihood of getting scammed. Perhaps just paying month to month is a safer bet?
You NEVER know until you know! Sorry for your troubles, Cooper.
someone giving you a discount for a yearly payment when they pay the condo monthly in your place is a major red flag lol, and on top of that you lended her money... jezus christ
Sorry to hear about this Cooper and brook u both good men so sad so sorry from Scott new Zealand
Sad story, Coop. I’ve heard that it’s best to secure the services of a Thai lawyer experienced in real estate law before engaging in any lease contracts.
I’m actually surprised that such scams are not more prevalent in Thailand.
HI I'm new Sub and you're good kind man I'm sorry that this lady did this to you
Thank you Bruce. Much appreciated brother 👍❤️👍
So where is the woman now? Surely the police would know her address and name. And will not be long before they pick her up. Greetings from Roi Et.
If you have her mobile phone number then the Police can legally find her location IF there is a formal legal case against her..easy they speak to the phone network provider - I know a guy who found his Thai wife who ran off with their kids without his knowledge + found them this way 😮
Your lawyer should know this unless they want to drag the case out + earn more legal fees
Sorry to hear mate and I hope the complex management do the right thing for you all as this is not good news for the thai people and this video is going to be seen all over the world
I saw this happened to another youtuber too Welshboy at his condo ...is it the same agent??
I was thinking it sounds like the same condo
How could Dusit let their agent collect the money into their personal bank account. Was there no Dusit company bank account that is monitored and controlled. Something seems really off there. And how could it go that long with dusit not catching it. Sure seems like some incompetence in Dusit to not have the proper procedures and controls in place.