I think it's interesting that The Good Place has two principal Asian characters who fall on opposite ends of the spectrum of representation described in this video, with Jason being the lovable idiot and Tahani being an intelligent perfectionist. If you had either character in isolation or if the writers chose to explicitly pit the two characters against each other, that might be not-so-great representation, but the show doesn't do that. Having multiple Asian characters with distinct personalities is sort of a low bar, but a lot of Western media fails to do anything past adding in a token Asian.
This video is great! Some people really don't get that even if a stereotype appears harmless or good, it still groups people into a monolith and dehumanizes them.
how is considering someone smart dehumanizing ? i'm with you when it comes to anti asian hate like the one during covid , it's awful , but this ? no , sorry , being smart is a plus , being smart brings respect .
@@eglantinepapeau1582 because it causes resentment when you don't meet that stereotype, and even if something is "positive" people can use that stereotype to disrespect you. I don't get how people don't understand this. kinda like assuming a black person will be automatically good at rapping or a Mexican that can make good tacos or an idian who makes good curry. it's just weird to view people in that way.
@@lenaramoon4617 why should people as a collective pander to the resentful and the envious ? Being smart is a HUMAN quality , and that sterootype about asiand is not a stereotype it's a reality , asian families are more strict about education . it's a plus , instead of being resentful people should try to do better and meet that standard . that to me is the rational thing to do , not pander to the resentful and the envious .
@@eglantinepapeau1582 my experience as a Filipino is different. Filipinos are not known for being smart, especially in Asia. Some Americans don't know that, especially if they are the type to be ignorant and racist. I once had a girl who befriended me in university because she thought I was smart and good at calculus. She immediately stopped talking to me when I was struggling just as much as her. She used a "positive" stereotype to generalize me and treat me unfairly and disrespectfully. I also had an experience where I was heavily fetishized for being Asian when I was at the club and as a result I was molested by a group of people who fetishized Asians. Do you understand now how these "positive" stereotypes still lead to bad experiences and bad behaviors from people? The best way forward is for people to see each individual for who they are as a person, regardless of race and gender as human beings rather than caricatures and generalizations.
This video is amazing and while the film industry is still pretty horrible to people of Asian dissent it is crazy to think that such an insanely rasist character appeared in a movie as recent as breakfast at tiffany's, I always heard that the asian characters in that movie weren't portrayed well but holy crap
thank you! it was crazy researching for this video and seeing how many relatively recent portrayals of Asian people are out there that are super awful, especially the character from Breakfast at Tiffany's
4:30 the Asian Characters who fit into the anti model minority are conventional attractive while the Model Minority, sometimes/most of the time have a need look with glasses obviously and are deemed as not as attractive. In some ways, isn't that catering to the idea of if someone good looking they're not smart? And vice versa
I remember watching a RUclips video by Insider called, "why so many Asian Characters have coloured hair?", basically talking about how mainly East Asian Girls with an Coloured streaks are portrayed as rebellious
Exactly. I want to see an Asian character who's good looking AND intelligent. Why can't they be both? Or better, an Asian character who looks normal and has an average IQ (and isn't treated like a "dumb" character just because they're Asian and not a genius).
@@howellwong11true but it's quite popular in American media for Caucasian men to shack up with Asian women successfully while with Asian men, they're often in a comediac role and showed to be undesirable.
L.A. native and as an Asian American: I’ve been terrible w/ math all my life. In high school I took Algebra II three times. I didn’t go to a UC. Instead I went to an art school. I hardly conformed to the norm growing up. I didn’t care being in a pack of bros or spent time studying without a life. I’ve never been called socially awkward… Being an ENFJ I sometimes wont stfu. I am well-aware of my East Asian heritages and comprehend traditional Chinese and Korean while dabbling in Japanese and Mongolian. I do not embrace those cultures fully because I fall in love with ideas that don’t align with values from the east. I work in corporate with my design BFA. Not a STEM professional but close enough. Healthcare tech so I am somewhat a “yappie”. I was good in video games. I did not play varsity football. I also suck at ping-pong. The only sport I am good at is swimming. I go to a lot of the underground techno parties. I wear mostly black and am tatted all over. I am 42, not married and no kids. When relatives get noisy about shits I draw boundaries immediately. My parents let me live my life the way I prefer and it has mostly been this way. I’ll do whatever I want and whenever I want. I don’t bother anyone. The bamboo ceiling might be real but I haven’t experienced it. I am not meek at work so while I perform well I also call out the bullshiters so they don’t get in my way. As white-washed as I may sometimes come across I know where to draw the lines. Feeling racism or being perceived in a stereotypical way was more of a thing growing up. Not so much these days… Living in a metro where one doesn’t have the stomach to tolerate a little racial joke or be able to make fun of oneself as long as the context / tone are set correctly I doubt there is much room for growth. I am grateful overall and glad to see more representation on scenes. We are real and come in every magical and awful flavors just like everyone else.
Valid questions here: Why do I never see anything about positive Asian representation for Indians or Russians? Is Asian representation only inclusive to people who share the same skin color?
I feel like these videos ignore the bigger part of the asian world, I.e Japan and Korean films to be exact, even phillipino ones. America will never get it right (never say never) but these other places got plenty covered. I'd prefer films like that to most of the trash America puts out. More films like Oldboy, train to busan, parasite, Tetsou the ironman ect.
This was a great video! The only part that confused me a bit was the statistics for representation - 4.8% of film roles were Asian whereas the US population is 5.7% Asian. That's... extremely close to fully representative! I think more of a focus on WHICH roles Asian characters get to play (5.7% of Leads for example instead of just any role) would make for a stronger argument given that, like Black Americans, FLAT representation in film is quite literally near fully representative of American stats. (Again, Black folks still don't make that percentage of Lead roles which is the stronger argument, imo)
yeah that's a good point! the amount of good / lead representation is a lot more important than just total amount of representation, as that doesn't say anything about HOW they're portrayed
Being a southeast asian american, I always fell intothe model minority stereotype by others. I would often get remarks like "your a bad/not a real asian because your not good at math" and things like that often made me hate math and the stereotype even more. The worse offendors by far are potential suitors or family members who are not blood related and related due to an immediate relative marrying into my family. Potential suitors always asking me on dates to eat asian food with the ocasional hipster who has had "real" asian food or has had a string of asian girlfriends. I just could never understand the bluntness of others who think its appropriate to tell me that they are surprised I speak english, that i must love noodles/rice, where do i really come from, I like small asian women, and things alike. Observing older asians I notice that they themselves try to fit the mold of these stereotypes though it is actually from another culture or just made up by some asian enthusiasts. Movies or t.v shows are notorious for being lazy about portraying cultures or hiring actors that don't match certain roles in which the role circulates around specific ethnicities. Movies like gran torino is an award winning movie but based off of my own family's accounts and other hmong people who posted reviews online the movie was not accurate to the hmong american experience. As a Hmong american myself, I felt that this movie portrayed the worst hmong people had to offer and I honestly feel that they could have done more research on much of the cultural aspects they had in the movies like the ceremonies. The laziness in the film shows and I am sure that many hmong people would love to see a second movie or reboot/remake with more accuracy. Not only that many people who have blantantly pointed out these views are just outliers or edge cases are not aware of the cultural barriers in which hmong people would deal with in trying to relay that the movie was not a great representation.
I dunno. Im 2 generation slovakian. Should i call myself slovakian american? I didnt grow up there. I grew up in middle america, that is my so called "culture". Why would you want to maintain a culture your ancestors left? They left for a reason.
I'm really curious of your thoughts on the Asian representation in Power Rangers (not just Mighty Morphin', we all know the case with Trini after the Latina actor quit the role). Especially with it being aimed towards kids (albeit, it has had dark, mature, intense themes in most iterations that are more akin to Harry Potter or The Incredibles), the diversity in the franchise is worth highlighting (heck, I'm curious on Polynesian people's thoughts on the 4 Polynesian Power Rangers, etc.). Power Rangers has had about 28 Asian/Asian-mixed actors as superheroes from across the diaspora, and while I love them and find them to be well-rounded with diverse personalities and see myself in quite a few of them without even being Asian, I cannot, as a non-Asian (Afro-descent to be exact), fully comment on how well they've been handled. Simply curious whether you'd be open to analyzing them.
It's definitely an interesting topic for analysis! Honestly though, I haven't seen much Power Rangers so I'm really in a place to dive into it unfortunately
I do agree, even if I am African American myself. Also, I am an artist who draws and paints women of Japanese nativity and ancestry because of their beauty being inherent and simple. ❤
@@shorttree6992 Wait, really? I thought he was Hispanic (his name being Mendoza and everything) but I guess Filipinos could have that surname as well on account of their colonial history. My mistake. Must've have missed it or forgotten while watching the show. It is funny though, because he complains about being mistook for a Taiwanese in the show when Taiwan and Phillipines are right next to each other. The joke makes more sense now.
Hot take: I don't know why Crazy Rich Asians is for "asian representation" when the representation it uses is awful. It perpetuates the notion that Asians are superficial and care only about money and live in these overly glamorous luxurious lifestyles when 99% of Asians do not. Also the plot is so dumb and cheesy. A girl falling in love with a young rich CEO? First of all, good luck finding a CEO in real life that looks like that. It's a knock off walmart version of a K-drama fantasy which is nothing but a fairytale for young girls. The best representation we've had for Asians so far in recent years is the film Minari. Also I'm still waiting for a major hollywood film about the Japanese internment camps during WWII and the Jpns Americans who made the most decorated fighting unit in WWII. THIS is the Asian representation that people need to hear; Asian Americans who've had to fight and prove that they belong in America, fighting against the "perpetual foreigner" stereotype. Not some stupid fantasy love story about falling in love with a rich person.
That's interesting to hear! I included Crazy Rich Asians since it's been talked about a lot as a step in the right direction, but there's def a lot of improvements to be made. I hadn't thought about the total lack of Hollywood films about Japanese internment - that could be super impactful, I agree!
I think it's a great representation of traditional Chinese beliefs. I relate to almost everything that is said there. You're very out of context. It's a great Asian representative of the ELITE society, and if you catch the nuances in between, you can see very asian behaviour, beliefs and characteristics. It shows the difference between asian american and traditional asians. Crazy Rich Asians provides a lot of truth and got most of the mannerisms right. You just need to remember what the plot is.
This all kind of has reminded me of a character that fits into both camps of the ditsy clutz as well as the genius and the character is Marcy Wu from amphibia. She is an absolute genius she just is deeply unaware of all of her surroundings and also is a massive pop culture nerd. Also actually Anne boonchuy from amphibia is another good example. She's has a habit of being super outgoing and has an amazing character Arc about growing up, it was really hard to talk about without spoiling everything though just they are really good characters
Correct me if I'm wrong but it comes off as you just not enjoying race being apart of somebodies character at all. It's impossible to have a character that doesn't fit into a trope. There are less or more common tropes for sure but almost every single "trope" has been done.
To the vid creator - it seems there is a tendency to always focus on the “negatives”. Hollywood is pretty bad and at times it just gets worse. Not sure why the positives have a tendency to be left out. Growing up there were Asian characters here and there that had positive roles. You may want to look up the following: James Shigeta - he’s Joseph Takagi of the Nakatomi corporation in Die Hard. Most recognize him for this role. Look up the Crimson Kimono 1959. Shigeta has a romantic lead with a white woman. Russell Wong - Vanishing Son 90’s. Positive role and often was romantic with white women and it seems it offended quite a few folks. Robert Ito - Quincy. 70-80’s TV show. Sung Kang - Fast and Furious. Positive role Dustin Nguyen - 21 Jump Street. George Takei - Star Trek Akira Takarada - while from Japan he starred in an American/Japan produced movie King Kong Escapes and there are several scenes where is a bit romantic with his co-star Linda Miller. I’m sure I missed a few also but perhaps if you find the more positives and feature them it would be more inspirational towards young Asian American actors and actresses. Korean movies and dramas are big hits right now also.
I appreciate the list! There's definitely been some stark improvements in Asian representation over the years, and in appreciation of Asian movies/TV shows. Though this video is mostly a critique, I don't want to totally glaze over the positive aspects, so thank you for bringing my attention to these :)
I don't know if this is a normal thing but your volume is mastered very low. I had my computer all the way up, and I still struggled to hear you! Otherwise, this was good.
The share of film roles is proportional to the population share. Asians are only 5% of the general population in the US. and Asian film roles in the US is also about 5%. Black population in the US is about 14% and their film roles are also 14%. If Asians want more film representations, we Asians need to increase our population. If we all focus on having just one or 2 children and try to send them to Ivy league schools, we won't increase our population share and we'll always be treated as a tiny minority and never have good representations.
Enjoyed this informative video here. There's some good, complete representation from Asian men actors like Jordan Rodrigues, John Harlan Kim, Jacob Batalon from Reginald the vampire, David lim projects
As a Chinese descendant, I know those people are like any others, maybe some different culture, customs, and that's it. And no. Not everyone knows "kung fu" 😅
Maybe I'm missing something. I was expecting to see just a few stereotypes of how Asian are pigeon holed into. But then you present such diversity among Asians (tall, short, cool, nerdy, smart, dumb, weak, strong, etc.).
Sadly it has often been like this, especially in the past. Witness the horrible impersonation of a Japanese man by Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. When in the 30s and 40s, Hollywood decided to bring one of the greatest fictional detectives, Charlie Chan, to the big screen, they went with all white actors to fill the role - the first three being Werner Oland (Swedish-American),Sydney Toler (American) and Roland Winters (American). Even in later years, white actors like Peter Ustinov and Ross Martin got the role and that was in the 70s and 80s !!! The villains didn't get away either as in 1980 English actor Peter Sellers played the title role in the "Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu" and in 1961 Christopher Lee played the evil Tong leader, Chung king in "Terror of the Tongs". I was genuinely surprised and pleased to discover that the iconic Chinese-American actor, Keye Luke ,actually voiced the title role in the Hanna-Barbera cartoon "The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan" (1972) (he also played Number 1 son in many of the Charlie Chan films and was the Venerable Master Po in the Kung Fu series)(Side note however, one of the myriad of children that Chan had in the series (another Hollywood stereotype) was voiced by actress Jodie Foster)
We all know Asians, in real life, span the spectrum in terms of personalities and can't be categorized neatly into a bucket list of tropes. That said, I don't see a compelling reason why Hollywood wants to give up on tropes and stereotypes. Characters in stories are supposed to be larger than life. It's been that way since the beginning of history. If you made everyone exactly the same, and downplayed all differences between groups, then all the characters would be the same and the story would be boring. Or to look at it another way, ask yourself "Which characters aren't based on tropes in the typical box office hit?". Everything is a trop. Dumb dads. Gold digging women. Bachelors getting themselves into trouble in Vegas. Black gang bangers. Angsty horny teenagers. Potheads... Pretty much EVERYTHING Hollywood produces has characters based on tropes. And if you actually film a movie (i.e. "Blue Bayou") that attempts to break stereotypes, it gets mediocre ratings. People who watch movies don't want real life. They want to be entertained.
I’m making a webcomic about an Asian descent non-binary character that has very few connection to his culture due to most of their lineage being dead The only ones that remain are them and their mother I’m not asian myself but, I would like some criticism (by individuals of asian descent) On how to do better with the representation I’m willing to give
why is an asian male non binary? that literally perpetuates stereotypes. it's also super racist, misandrist, and anti lgbtq+. the reason liberals and progressives want more lgbtq+ characters is because they're seen as negative in society. and so are cis het asian men. making an asian male non binary perpetuates asian male emasculation. you're basically saying, the only good asian male is a lgbtq+ one...
Theres something called a "myth" myth. And it's the myth that the things labeled as myths are actually myths. Practically no one thinks ALL people of asian decent are smart, hard working, bookworm, straight A students and calling it a myth doesn't do anything to diminish the over representation of asian students in ivy league schools or the higher median houshold income of asian Americans compared to other demographics. You're just playing word games. It's the model minority stereotype perhaps, but not a model minority "myth". The empirical evidence is there, that people and their descendents migrating from select Asian countries tend to do well in various countries around the world. And the anecdotal evidence is there. That's why they get placed in media in the first place. It's not a game of telephone about an Asian stereotype. People have experienced tiger mom's, and strict academically focused parents, etc... They aren't myths, stop calling them myths. That's the wrong word.
Yeah, if you really focus on the semantics the word might not be perfect, but the phrase "model minority myth" is quite well-established so I'm using it because of that :)
@@MaiaCVideos Asian tropes and stereotypes in media are also quite well established.... Just because something is well established doesn't mean you should continue to use it, eh?
Jason is proof anyone can be Florida man
I think it's interesting that The Good Place has two principal Asian characters who fall on opposite ends of the spectrum of representation described in this video, with Jason being the lovable idiot and Tahani being an intelligent perfectionist. If you had either character in isolation or if the writers chose to explicitly pit the two characters against each other, that might be not-so-great representation, but the show doesn't do that. Having multiple Asian characters with distinct personalities is sort of a low bar, but a lot of Western media fails to do anything past adding in a token Asian.
This video is great! Some people really don't get that even if a stereotype appears harmless or good, it still groups people into a monolith and dehumanizes them.
exactly! thanks for watching :)
how is considering someone smart dehumanizing ? i'm with you when it comes to anti asian hate like the one during covid , it's awful , but this ? no , sorry , being smart is a plus , being smart brings respect .
@@eglantinepapeau1582 because it causes resentment when you don't meet that stereotype, and even if something is "positive" people can use that stereotype to disrespect you. I don't get how people don't understand this. kinda like assuming a black person will be automatically good at rapping or a Mexican that can make good tacos or an idian who makes good curry. it's just weird to view people in that way.
@@lenaramoon4617 why should people as a collective pander to the resentful and the envious ? Being smart is a HUMAN quality , and that sterootype about asiand is not a stereotype it's a reality , asian families are more strict about education . it's a plus , instead of being resentful people should try to do better and meet that standard . that to me is the rational thing to do , not pander to the resentful and the envious .
@@eglantinepapeau1582 my experience as a Filipino is different. Filipinos are not known for being smart, especially in Asia. Some Americans don't know that, especially if they are the type to be ignorant and racist. I once had a girl who befriended me in university because she thought I was smart and good at calculus. She immediately stopped talking to me when I was struggling just as much as her. She used a "positive" stereotype to generalize me and treat me unfairly and disrespectfully. I also had an experience where I was heavily fetishized for being Asian when I was at the club and as a result I was molested by a group of people who fetishized Asians. Do you understand now how these "positive" stereotypes still lead to bad experiences and bad behaviors from people? The best way forward is for people to see each individual for who they are as a person, regardless of race and gender as human beings rather than caricatures and generalizations.
This video is amazing and while the film industry is still pretty horrible to people of Asian dissent it is crazy to think that such an insanely rasist character appeared in a movie as recent as breakfast at tiffany's, I always heard that the asian characters in that movie weren't portrayed well but holy crap
thank you! it was crazy researching for this video and seeing how many relatively recent portrayals of Asian people are out there that are super awful, especially the character from Breakfast at Tiffany's
1961. 62 years ago. Jim Crow.
@@Mortablunt Jim Crow? Why did you bring up Jim Crow?
4:30 the Asian Characters who fit into the anti model minority are conventional attractive while the Model Minority, sometimes/most of the time have a need look with glasses obviously and are deemed as not as attractive. In some ways, isn't that catering to the idea of if someone good looking they're not smart? And vice versa
ooh yeah totally!
I remember watching a RUclips video by Insider called, "why so many Asian Characters have coloured hair?", basically talking about how mainly East Asian Girls with an Coloured streaks are portrayed as rebellious
Exactly. I want to see an Asian character who's good looking AND intelligent. Why can't they be both?
Or better, an Asian character who looks normal and has an average IQ (and isn't treated like a "dumb" character just because they're Asian and not a genius).
@@mynameisreallycool1 They're very Racist towards Asian The way they portrait our race in bad ways
One other issue often shown is that Asian women are shown to desire Caucasian men vs Asian men and this does quite a bit of harm as well.
What about Asian men desiring Caucasian women? This Asian married a blonde Caucasian going on for 54 years.
@@howellwong11true but it's quite popular in American media for Caucasian men to shack up with Asian women successfully while with Asian men, they're often in a comediac role and showed to be undesirable.
L.A. native and as an Asian American:
I’ve been terrible w/ math all my life. In high school I took Algebra II three times.
I didn’t go to a UC. Instead I went to an art school.
I hardly conformed to the norm growing up. I didn’t care being in a pack of bros or spent time studying without a life.
I’ve never been called socially awkward… Being an ENFJ I sometimes wont stfu.
I am well-aware of my East Asian heritages and comprehend traditional Chinese and Korean while dabbling in Japanese and Mongolian.
I do not embrace those cultures fully because I fall in love with ideas that don’t align with values from the east.
I work in corporate with my design BFA. Not a STEM professional but close enough. Healthcare tech so I am somewhat a “yappie”.
I was good in video games.
I did not play varsity football. I also suck at ping-pong. The only sport I am good at is swimming.
I go to a lot of the underground techno parties.
I wear mostly black and am tatted all over.
I am 42, not married and no kids. When relatives get noisy about shits I draw boundaries immediately.
My parents let me live my life the way I prefer and it has mostly been this way.
I’ll do whatever I want and whenever I want. I don’t bother anyone.
The bamboo ceiling might be real but I haven’t experienced it. I am not meek at work so while I perform well I also call out the bullshiters so they don’t get in my way.
As white-washed as I may sometimes come across I know where to draw the lines.
Feeling racism or being perceived in a stereotypical way was more of a thing growing up. Not so much these days…
Living in a metro where one doesn’t have the stomach to tolerate a little racial joke or be able to make fun of oneself as long as the context / tone are set correctly I doubt there is much room for growth.
I am grateful overall and glad to see more representation on scenes. We are real and come in every magical and awful flavors just like everyone else.
It sucks that im asian and i suck at math, but people aspects me to be some math genuis.
yes it's such an unfair stereotype!
Join the club I got a C in Math and was happy I passed
Valid questions here: Why do I never see anything about positive Asian representation for Indians or Russians? Is Asian representation only inclusive to people who share the same skin color?
I feel like these videos ignore the bigger part of the asian world, I.e Japan and Korean films to be exact, even phillipino ones. America will never get it right (never say never) but these other places got plenty covered. I'd prefer films like that to most of the trash America puts out. More films like Oldboy, train to busan, parasite, Tetsou the ironman ect.
definitely, films created in Asia/by Asian filmmakers/etc usually have great representation! if only non-Asian films could follow their lead :)
Specially names given to the characters is simply stupid.
first thing that came to my mind is Cho Chang from Harry Potter
This was a great video! The only part that confused me a bit was the statistics for representation - 4.8% of film roles were Asian whereas the US population is 5.7% Asian. That's... extremely close to fully representative! I think more of a focus on WHICH roles Asian characters get to play (5.7% of Leads for example instead of just any role) would make for a stronger argument given that, like Black Americans, FLAT representation in film is quite literally near fully representative of American stats. (Again, Black folks still don't make that percentage of Lead roles which is the stronger argument, imo)
yeah that's a good point! the amount of good / lead representation is a lot more important than just total amount of representation, as that doesn't say anything about HOW they're portrayed
Being a southeast asian american, I always fell intothe model minority stereotype by others. I would often get remarks like "your a bad/not a real asian because your not good at math" and things like that often made me hate math and the stereotype even more. The worse offendors by far are potential suitors or family members who are not blood related and related due to an immediate relative marrying into my family. Potential suitors always asking me on dates to eat asian food with the ocasional hipster who has had "real" asian food or has had a string of asian girlfriends. I just could never understand the bluntness of others who think its appropriate to tell me that they are surprised I speak english, that i must love noodles/rice, where do i really come from, I like small asian women, and things alike.
Observing older asians I notice that they themselves try to fit the mold of these stereotypes though it is actually from another culture or just made up by some asian enthusiasts. Movies or t.v shows are notorious for being lazy about portraying cultures or hiring actors that don't match certain roles in which the role circulates around specific ethnicities.
Movies like gran torino is an award winning movie but based off of my own family's accounts and other hmong people who posted reviews online the movie was not accurate to the hmong american experience. As a Hmong american myself, I felt that this movie portrayed the worst hmong people had to offer and I honestly feel that they could have done more research on much of the cultural aspects they had in the movies like the ceremonies. The laziness in the film shows and I am sure that many hmong people would love to see a second movie or reboot/remake with more accuracy. Not only that many people who have blantantly pointed out these views are just outliers or edge cases are not aware of the cultural barriers in which hmong people would deal with in trying to relay that the movie was not a great representation.
I dunno. Im 2 generation slovakian. Should i call myself slovakian american? I didnt grow up there. I grew up in middle america, that is my so called "culture".
Why would you want to maintain a culture your ancestors left? They left for a reason.
Surprised you brought up Harold and Kumar but didn't bring up Kumar. As an Indian stoner I've never felt more represented lol.
“Just because you’re hung like a moose doesn’t mean you gotta do porn”
Lmaooo
*Mr Chow was the model minority in my humble opinion.*
I'm really curious of your thoughts on the Asian representation in Power Rangers (not just Mighty Morphin', we all know the case with Trini after the Latina actor quit the role). Especially with it being aimed towards kids (albeit, it has had dark, mature, intense themes in most iterations that are more akin to Harry Potter or The Incredibles), the diversity in the franchise is worth highlighting (heck, I'm curious on Polynesian people's thoughts on the 4 Polynesian Power Rangers, etc.).
Power Rangers has had about 28 Asian/Asian-mixed actors as superheroes from across the diaspora, and while I love them and find them to be well-rounded with diverse personalities and see myself in quite a few of them without even being Asian, I cannot, as a non-Asian (Afro-descent to be exact), fully comment on how well they've been handled. Simply curious whether you'd be open to analyzing them.
It's definitely an interesting topic for analysis! Honestly though, I haven't seen much Power Rangers so I'm really in a place to dive into it unfortunately
The Babysitters Club has both the Asian airhead and her sister the model minority
I like watching Chinese, South Asian, Japanese, and Korean based movies (with the subtitles). They don’t have the American racist stereotyping.
I do agree, even if I am African American myself. Also, I am an artist who draws and paints women of Japanese nativity and ancestry because of their beauty being inherent and simple. ❤
that's such a wonderful subject for art! thanks for watching :)
sounds like fetishizing asian women which is hugely problematic. also did you just call japanese people simple?
Thank you for this. I have this nagging feeling that Hollywood has a fear or aversion to strong Asian male characters.
an example of straight up good asian representation is tahani aj jamil in the good place!
ooh yes!
and jason isn't asian
@@apg13997 what are you talking about he's Filipino
@@shorttree6992 Wait, really? I thought he was Hispanic (his name being Mendoza and everything) but I guess Filipinos could have that surname as well on account of their colonial history.
My mistake. Must've have missed it or forgotten while watching the show. It is funny though, because he complains about being mistook for a Taiwanese in the show when Taiwan and Phillipines are right next to each other. The joke makes more sense now.
Jason Mendoza still does perpetuate a stereotype though: that of the Florida Man. 😉
Hot take: I don't know why Crazy Rich Asians is for "asian representation" when the representation it uses is awful. It perpetuates the notion that Asians are superficial and care only about money and live in these overly glamorous luxurious lifestyles when 99% of Asians do not. Also the plot is so dumb and cheesy. A girl falling in love with a young rich CEO? First of all, good luck finding a CEO in real life that looks like that. It's a knock off walmart version of a K-drama fantasy which is nothing but a fairytale for young girls. The best representation we've had for Asians so far in recent years is the film Minari.
Also I'm still waiting for a major hollywood film about the Japanese internment camps during WWII and the Jpns Americans who made the most decorated fighting unit in WWII. THIS is the Asian representation that people need to hear; Asian Americans who've had to fight and prove that they belong in America, fighting against the "perpetual foreigner" stereotype. Not some stupid fantasy love story about falling in love with a rich person.
That's interesting to hear! I included Crazy Rich Asians since it's been talked about a lot as a step in the right direction, but there's def a lot of improvements to be made.
I hadn't thought about the total lack of Hollywood films about Japanese internment - that could be super impactful, I agree!
I think it's a great representation of traditional Chinese beliefs. I relate to almost everything that is said there. You're very out of context. It's a great Asian representative of the ELITE society, and if you catch the nuances in between, you can see very asian behaviour, beliefs and characteristics. It shows the difference between asian american and traditional asians. Crazy Rich Asians provides a lot of truth and got most of the mannerisms right. You just need to remember what the plot is.
Also you're comparing a romantic comedy to some kind of military drama/documentary genre. It's a poor comparison
Amazing video essay!! Ur so smart ;))))
Thanks so much! :)
First! Your channel is so cool, love your videos!
glad you enjoyed!!
Its actually Chinese representation, not Asian.
7:48look how uncomfortable Michael feels around these two doofus😂😂😂
This all kind of has reminded me of a character that fits into both camps of the ditsy clutz as well as the genius and the character is Marcy Wu from amphibia. She is an absolute genius she just is deeply unaware of all of her surroundings and also is a massive pop culture nerd. Also actually Anne boonchuy from amphibia is another good example. She's has a habit of being super outgoing and has an amazing character Arc about growing up, it was really hard to talk about without spoiling everything though just they are really good characters
Correct me if I'm wrong but it comes off as you just not enjoying race being apart of somebodies character at all.
It's impossible to have a character that doesn't fit into a trope. There are less or more common tropes for sure but almost every single "trope" has been done.
But not all tropes are racialised.
All of this makes me wonder what would have happened if there was no representation at all.
To the vid creator - it seems there is a tendency to always focus on the “negatives”. Hollywood is pretty bad and at times it just gets worse.
Not sure why the positives have a tendency to be left out. Growing up there were Asian characters here and there that had positive roles. You may want to look up the following:
James Shigeta - he’s Joseph Takagi of the Nakatomi corporation in Die Hard. Most recognize him for this role.
Look up the Crimson Kimono 1959. Shigeta has a romantic lead with a white woman.
Russell Wong - Vanishing Son 90’s. Positive role and often was romantic with white women and it seems it offended quite a few folks.
Robert Ito - Quincy. 70-80’s TV show.
Sung Kang - Fast and Furious. Positive role
Dustin Nguyen - 21 Jump Street.
George Takei - Star Trek
Akira Takarada - while from Japan he starred in an American/Japan produced movie King Kong Escapes and there are several scenes where is a bit romantic with his co-star Linda Miller.
I’m sure I missed a few also but perhaps if you find the more positives and feature them it would be more inspirational towards young Asian American actors and actresses.
Korean movies and dramas are big hits right now also.
I appreciate the list! There's definitely been some stark improvements in Asian representation over the years, and in appreciation of Asian movies/TV shows.
Though this video is mostly a critique, I don't want to totally glaze over the positive aspects, so thank you for bringing my attention to these :)
Great video! Thanks!
Was with you until you said "to all the boys I've loved before".
Ugh why does RUclips never send me notifications from you?
oh no! glad you still found the video lol
I don't know if this is a normal thing but your volume is mastered very low. I had my computer all the way up, and I still struggled to hear you!
Otherwise, this was good.
Any plans on making a video about the stereotype of some asian women preferring white guys when dating.
Breakfast at Tiffany’s Asian character is just wrong!!! 😂😂😂😂. Come on, Caucasian Americans!!
The share of film roles is proportional to the population share. Asians are only 5% of the general population in the US. and Asian film roles in the US is also about 5%. Black population in the US is about 14% and their film roles are also 14%. If Asians want more film representations, we Asians need to increase our population. If we all focus on having just one or 2 children and try to send them to Ivy league schools, we won't increase our population share and we'll always be treated as a tiny minority and never have good representations.
Enjoyed this informative video here. There's some good, complete representation from Asian men actors like Jordan Rodrigues, John Harlan Kim, Jacob Batalon from Reginald the vampire, David lim projects
As a Chinese descendant, I know those people are like any others, maybe some different culture, customs, and that's it.
And no. Not everyone knows "kung fu" 😅
@ThePHiLsTeR yup me too, and physics 🤓
Ugh, I don't want to be reminded of my lack of dignity. 😔 The pain is too real.
I think the stereotypes are their own race, no hard feelings.
Omgggg can you make your videos quieter please??? They're SO LOUD I can hear your voice SO clearly woww
The Asian B imbo like the one in full metal jacket or those chicks in mean girls
Maybe I'm missing something. I was expecting to see just a few stereotypes of how Asian are pigeon holed into. But then you present such diversity among Asians (tall, short, cool, nerdy, smart, dumb, weak, strong, etc.).
Sadly it has often been like this, especially in the past. Witness the horrible impersonation of a Japanese man by Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. When in the 30s and 40s, Hollywood decided to bring one of the greatest fictional detectives, Charlie Chan, to the big screen, they went with all white actors to fill the role - the first three being Werner Oland (Swedish-American),Sydney Toler (American) and Roland Winters (American). Even in later years, white actors like Peter Ustinov and Ross Martin got the role and that was in the 70s and 80s !!! The villains didn't get away either as in 1980 English actor Peter Sellers played the title role in the "Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu" and in 1961 Christopher Lee played the evil Tong leader, Chung king in "Terror of the Tongs". I was genuinely surprised and pleased to discover that the iconic Chinese-American actor, Keye Luke ,actually voiced the title role in the Hanna-Barbera cartoon "The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan" (1972) (he also played Number 1 son in many of the Charlie Chan films and was the Venerable Master Po in the Kung Fu series)(Side note however, one of the myriad of children that Chan had in the series (another Hollywood stereotype) was voiced by actress Jodie Foster)
We all know Asians, in real life, span the spectrum in terms of personalities and can't be categorized neatly into a bucket list of tropes. That said, I don't see a compelling reason why Hollywood wants to give up on tropes and stereotypes. Characters in stories are supposed to be larger than life. It's been that way since the beginning of history. If you made everyone exactly the same, and downplayed all differences between groups, then all the characters would be the same and the story would be boring.
Or to look at it another way, ask yourself "Which characters aren't based on tropes in the typical box office hit?". Everything is a trop. Dumb dads. Gold digging women. Bachelors getting themselves into trouble in Vegas. Black gang bangers. Angsty horny teenagers. Potheads... Pretty much EVERYTHING Hollywood produces has characters based on tropes. And if you actually film a movie (i.e. "Blue Bayou") that attempts to break stereotypes, it gets mediocre ratings. People who watch movies don't want real life. They want to be entertained.
LATINX!?
To be honest being a lovable idiot is not fun in real life.
I am dont asking this.
I’m making a webcomic about an Asian descent non-binary character that has very few connection to his culture due to most of their lineage being dead
The only ones that remain are them and their mother
I’m not asian myself but, I would like some criticism (by individuals of asian descent)
On how to do better with the representation I’m willing to give
why is an asian male non binary? that literally perpetuates stereotypes. it's also super racist, misandrist, and anti lgbtq+. the reason liberals and progressives want more lgbtq+ characters is because they're seen as negative in society. and so are cis het asian men. making an asian male non binary perpetuates asian male emasculation. you're basically saying, the only good asian male is a lgbtq+ one...
THREE short Asians are responsible for stereotyping Asians. Bruce Lee, Jet Li, and Jackie Chan.
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Sorry but London Tipton belongs to us
who’s us?😂
Chinese American here:
I have absolutely no clue on why this stereotype exists.
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You worry too much.
Theres something called a "myth" myth. And it's the myth that the things labeled as myths are actually myths. Practically no one thinks ALL people of asian decent are smart, hard working, bookworm, straight A students and calling it a myth doesn't do anything to diminish the over representation of asian students in ivy league schools or the higher median houshold income of asian Americans compared to other demographics. You're just playing word games. It's the model minority stereotype perhaps, but not a model minority "myth". The empirical evidence is there, that people and their descendents migrating from select Asian countries tend to do well in various countries around the world. And the anecdotal evidence is there. That's why they get placed in media in the first place. It's not a game of telephone about an Asian stereotype. People have experienced tiger mom's, and strict academically focused parents, etc... They aren't myths, stop calling them myths. That's the wrong word.
Yeah, if you really focus on the semantics the word might not be perfect, but the phrase "model minority myth" is quite well-established so I'm using it because of that :)
@@MaiaCVideos Asian tropes and stereotypes in media are also quite well established.... Just because something is well established doesn't mean you should continue to use it, eh?
Why not film serial killer with Asians hehe.