@@Ash_MelodieI mean, just going through the pokedex, about 70% of the mons are pretty useful (though some become less useful without their abilities such as the Azumarill line). Gen 2 also receieves buffs from other gens because a lot of gen 2 mons evolve into mons in orher gens.
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 if you get a gen 2 mon, you can evolve it. So that 70% consists of all mons that are useful as they are or as their evolution. So Cleffa counts for example. And off the top of my head, gen 2 has totodile, cyndaquil, chinchou, natu (magic bounce is really good), cleffa, crobat, togepi, marill, mareep, politoed, aipom, yanma, espeon, umbreon, slowking, misdreavus, girafarig, dunsparce, heracross, sneasel, swinub, qwilfish, miltank, blissey, tyrogue, porygon2, smeargle, snubbull, teddiursa, larvitar, kingdra, skarmory, phanpy, houndour, scizor, gligar, pineco and the 6 legendaries. I've likely also missed a handful.
The thing to remember about this format for gen 2 pokemon is that while its general power may be lower than other gens, it's full of pokemon that are pre-evolutions to gen 1 pokemon, and/or they get evolutions later on. So when you select gen 2, there's a potential Electivire or Honchkrow or Weavile or Farigiraf or Dudunsparce or Crobat or Magmortar or Mamoswine or Blissey, on top of all the pokemon that are actually from that generation. In any case, I don't think many of the really trash mons from gen 2 are even in this game, so gen 2 is a really good bet for a good mon, as this video shows.
Telling Pat he can't evolve his Combee was hilarious, but I was fully expecting for you to tell him right at the end that you were joking and that he could have a Vespiquen. Could have made for a more interesting battle setup. I mean, it didn't matter in the end, but still.
Psyshock hits on the Physical side and Hippowdon's base Defense is 118 and Hypno's Special Attack is 73 and Hippowdon's base Special Defense is 72, in addition to Draining Kiss's low power which is why it was taking them so well. Plus that base 108 HP.
2:13 “Ok, that’s not bad” Yeah… I wish it wasn’t bad. I mean, you can at least terastalise it to give it less weaknesses but without that I don’t really know what it’s good for.
How about you choose a starter by spinning a wheel with ALL THE CHOOSING METHODS you and your friends come up with? One round is about height, another one is saying the Japanese name, and so on...
I will not stand for Patterzz Bellibolt hate. It is a cute, rotund and bulky frog guy. What is there not to love? Jokes aside, it is actually semi competitively viable. Its move pool just lets it down a little, sadly 😢
By far my favorite hen has to go to gem 4. As for the mon itself I love togekiss since it was first introduced. I loved how it kind of felt like a pal once it was given to you from Cynthia in platinum
@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 ok it's not a lot but still a lot of people still have use some of the gen 2 mons alot of time for example is umbreon or Crobat or even scizor
@@hilmysriaag but you are using it as an argument to why gen 2 isnt bad, it doeant makes sense saying that doing the bare minimum that all the gens does, makes gen 2 less bad
I believe a fun challenge would be “Primary typing + 1st letter of their name” So many options for confusion, like ‘Fire Type - C’. Could be any number of things
@@TheOverlordPepper I will concede Azurill (normal/water), but Arbolivia is primary Grass, secondary Normal. However, Azumarill with a randomized ability is potentially garbage. Arceus, though... is Arceus. And that's a 50/50: You either get moist garbage, or you get Arceus.
@@TheOverlordPepper It said primary typing. "Normal type - N" is 100% Noctowl, and that's that. Yes, with those two parameters, you can single out one pokemon. If secondary typings were usable, then the mind games wouldn't stop. Also, "Fire type - Q" is unique, and a good 'mon. "Water type - U" and "Fighting type - U" are also unique Oddly enough, the same 'mon. One with a dual typing that would obviously get picked since Umbreon is also Dark. "Dark type - Y" is a box art. "Grass type - H" is trash.
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 Besides it has some good mons and ones that would go on to get good final evos. I'm not going to act like it's the best dex but it's not all trash. Even the weaker Pokemon I think have some of the better desgins then the trash of gen 5 or 7. It was gen 2 right after gen 1 certainly not perfect games or dexs but as a kid it was great. At least we didn't have to sit through 30 min ugly cut scenes to get our starter like gen 7.
@@finnsnow2495 lol, you dont have to be so deffensive about this, just say that most of the dex sucks , embrace the mistakes, the 5 good gen 2 mons aint saving the rest of the other 95 mon, and the gen 2 evolutions arent credit of the gen 2 dex, gen 2 dex doent have gliscor, it have gligar
@@jorgeperez2872 Ok, you wanna play the idiot game? Let's go. Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Furret is amazing don't slander him, Crobat, Lanturn, Ampharos, Azumarill, Politoed, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon, Slowking, Steelix, Scizor, Heracross, Skarmory, Houndoom, Kingdra, Donphan, Blissey, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi. I even left out a few that got great evolutions later so without them in Gen 2 that wouldn't have happened. Congrats on naming the babies and 6 other Pokemon from the dex that you think are bad though.
@@northwind2538Furret is linoone but weaker, azu is bad without huge power (non gen 2) , donphan is arguably bad and the ones that evolve in gen 4 are not gen 2 accomplishment. And also Ariados
@@jorgeperez2872 It's astounding how instantly you contradicted yourself by saying "Azu is bad without Huge Power (non Gen 2)" but then comparing Furret to Linoone, which is also non Gen 2. You can't use one argument in tangent with the other. And yes legendaries count because they are a part of the dex? Which was my entire point in the first place? Don't bother responding to this, though, cause I'm done talking to what is clearly a child.
If we're talking Gen 2 in the context of Gen 2 (aka Gold/Silver/Crystal) then yeah most Gen 2 mons are dogwater, a lot of them got deserved glowups over time though. Honestly if we wanna talk relative modern powerlevel I'd maybe put Gen 3 as a contender to be at the bottom or at least *near* the bottom (which hurts as it's my favorite gen lol). Unlike Gen 2 which originally had a few really strong mons and a massive handful of crap mons that later got their glowups, Gen 3 didn't really get much of the same treatment in the glowup department. It does at least have some of the strongest/most consistent legendaries to this day though, which is nice, especially in a world where Zacian and Miraidon exist! May the weather trio continue to reign eternal.
Gen 2 is probably one of the best gens for this game as there are a lot of baby pokemon that evolve to good pokemon and a lot of gen 2 got later evolutions as well as the good pokemon from the generation.
Am I the only one who doesn't agree with not being able to evolve male Combee? Another example would be Salandit, but you can't tell which gender it is, so they probably would evolve it anyway.
LMAO Patterz out here dunking on gen 2 and got instant karma. Typhlosion is my favorite Pokémon too XD Then Luke getting a larvitar right after! There's some great pokemon from gen 2!
Landerous incarnate is better in singles than therian. Its Ubers. Therian may be better in doubles cause intimidate but I dont play doubles so idk. You also sent the nasty plotter into a very prolific special wall. That is why it did no damage.
I agree that statistically gen 2 mons are bad, but the gen 2 mons that are in SV are often really good... I feel everything but delibird and hoppip line are good
My first pokemon game was either diamond or platinum... can't remember it was 2009 and I was deployed... so gen 4 will always have a special place in my heart. But I've only played gen 8-9 since then, so 4 it stays, even though arceus was really dope
Overall my favorite generation is 5, though 9 is really giving it a run for its money - the DLC is going to make it or break it. However, like every Pokemon fan, I have a soft spot for my roots - the generation I started with. In generation 2.
I've never seen a more accurate representation of the phrase "talk shit, get hit" than Pat smack-talking Gen 2 and then getting a male Combee.
swiftly followed by Luke getting a tyranitar in the next pull lol
🤣
Pat getting instant karma for talking down on gen 2 is beautiful 😭
Instant karma for being right ✊😓
Its beautiful but not good pokemon
@@Ash_MelodieI mean, just going through the pokedex, about 70% of the mons are pretty useful (though some become less useful without their abilities such as the Azumarill line). Gen 2 also receieves buffs from other gens because a lot of gen 2 mons evolve into mons in orher gens.
@@zeus-kyurem6581 did you saw the right gen? Cause most mons in gen 2 are weak and unnevolved
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 if you get a gen 2 mon, you can evolve it. So that 70% consists of all mons that are useful as they are or as their evolution. So Cleffa counts for example. And off the top of my head, gen 2 has totodile, cyndaquil, chinchou, natu (magic bounce is really good), cleffa, crobat, togepi, marill, mareep, politoed, aipom, yanma, espeon, umbreon, slowking, misdreavus, girafarig, dunsparce, heracross, sneasel, swinub, qwilfish, miltank, blissey, tyrogue, porygon2, smeargle, snubbull, teddiursa, larvitar, kingdra, skarmory, phanpy, houndour, scizor, gligar, pineco and the 6 legendaries. I've likely also missed a handful.
Fun fact for the future: male combee and male salandit can both use eviolite even though they don’t evolve
Huh. Didn't know that
Huh. Didn't know that
Huh. Didn't know that.
Huh. Didn't know that.
Hell is empty, and all the demons are in this comment thread
Pat's ability to pick the worst option out of the 3 is insane (besides Landorus)
greatest first round pick of all time
What about that male comber?
*Combee
3:03 To add the Death Whistle in the background makes it absolutely golden.
This might be my favourite Then We Fight of all time! Pat getting Male Combee and then almost throwing to give it a kill was so funny lmao
0:57 Pat took that early L SO CONFIDENTLY TOO💀
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
The thing to remember about this format for gen 2 pokemon is that while its general power may be lower than other gens, it's full of pokemon that are pre-evolutions to gen 1 pokemon, and/or they get evolutions later on. So when you select gen 2, there's a potential Electivire or Honchkrow or Weavile or Farigiraf or Dudunsparce or Crobat or Magmortar or Mamoswine or Blissey, on top of all the pokemon that are actually from that generation.
In any case, I don't think many of the really trash mons from gen 2 are even in this game, so gen 2 is a really good bet for a good mon, as this video shows.
Sunkern is like the only real dud that comes to mind.
@@StrawhatRyechoice specs sunflora is actually hitting really hard in randbats high elo, but yea I guess in this format it's not that good.
Telling Pat he can't evolve his Combee was hilarious, but I was fully expecting for you to tell him right at the end that you were joking and that he could have a Vespiquen. Could have made for a more interesting battle setup. I mean, it didn't matter in the end, but still.
Psyshock hits on the Physical side and Hippowdon's base Defense is 118 and Hypno's Special Attack is 73 and Hippowdon's base Special Defense is 72, in addition to Draining Kiss's low power which is why it was taking them so well. Plus that base 108 HP.
2:13 “Ok, that’s not bad”
Yeah… I wish it wasn’t bad. I mean, you can at least terastalise it to give it less weaknesses but without that I don’t really know what it’s good for.
Never shit on gen 2, pat never lived it down and learned a valuable lesson this video.
I love Then we fight videos. Especially when even if someone fumbles in the team selection, they can still win the battle.
Pat going on a whole gen 2 rant only to get a terrible gen 4 mon and Luke getting an awesome gen 2 mon in the same round.
3:41 Micheal has taken over
I always love the team building parts of these videos, and this one was especially good.
Plays deaths whistle during lukey saying pat has male combee
How about you choose a starter by spinning a wheel with ALL THE CHOOSING METHODS you and your friends come up with?
One round is about height, another one is saying the Japanese name, and so on...
The immediate regret in round 1. 🤣🤣 Ah, sure wish you would've picked Gen 2 now, huh?
I absolutely love these videos and I also love all the use of Jet Set Radio songs/sound effects!
I will not stand for Patterzz Bellibolt hate. It is a cute, rotund and bulky frog guy. What is there not to love? Jokes aside, it is actually semi competitively viable. Its move pool just lets it down a little, sadly 😢
By far my favorite hen has to go to gem 4. As for the mon itself I love togekiss since it was first introduced. I loved how it kind of felt like a pal once it was given to you from Cynthia in platinum
Yooo the sound effect at 8:03 has awakened a memory locked away deep in my brain 😂
Gen 2 is my favorite and watching Pat talk smack and experience immediate karma was satisfying 😂
Great video guys. Keep up the great work. Love your videos and personalities.
This is definitely one of my favorites out of all these battle videos. :-) So funny.
I love this duo because it feels the most competitive in the battles
You get a great short out of this, the gen 2 part was hilarious! GG!
0:30 well karma get you there and never look down on gen 2 with a lot of power house pokemon
If by a lot you mean like 5 to 10 pokémon (10 if you are VERY generous with the "power house" term)
@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 ok it's not a lot but still a lot of people still have use some of the gen 2 mons alot of time for example is umbreon or Crobat or even scizor
@@hilmysriaag yeah, but that is valid for all generations
@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 well yeah but he specifically said gen 2 and not other gen
@@hilmysriaag but you are using it as an argument to why gen 2 isnt bad, it doeant makes sense saying that doing the bare minimum that all the gens does, makes gen 2 less bad
That was so funny! 🤣😂🤣 I had no idea who was gonna win! Also Pat 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 That was a brilliant first pick my guy 🤣
3:15 bro the edit and pat's expression was hilarious 😂💀
Pat had gotten a very interesting/unique team for this battle.
patterz gen2 take is WILD, ESPECAILLY when he called them weak LOL
I believe a fun challenge would be “Primary typing + 1st letter of their name” So many options for confusion, like ‘Fire Type - C’. Could be any number of things
Normal type - A. Name one that isn't Arceus.
Update: Audino, Ambipom and Aipom exist, and none of these exist in S/V.
@@cxpKSipArbolivia and azurill
@@TheOverlordPepper I will concede Azurill (normal/water), but Arbolivia is primary Grass, secondary Normal.
However, Azumarill with a randomized ability is potentially garbage. Arceus, though... is Arceus. And that's a 50/50: You either get moist garbage, or you get Arceus.
@@cxpKSip Still a normal type though.
@@TheOverlordPepper It said primary typing. "Normal type - N" is 100% Noctowl, and that's that. Yes, with those two parameters, you can single out one pokemon.
If secondary typings were usable, then the mind games wouldn't stop.
Also, "Fire type - Q" is unique, and a good 'mon.
"Water type - U" and "Fighting type - U" are also unique Oddly enough, the same 'mon. One with a dual typing that would obviously get picked since Umbreon is also Dark.
"Dark type - Y" is a box art.
"Grass type - H" is trash.
I love this content - keep up the amazing work!
I love hearing the Bombrush Cyberfunk soundtrack in the background. Team Reptile said no RUclips copyright strikes on their game's music. Love it.
When you lose the battle but get the moral victory
Me, an Elder Scrolls nerd, watching Pat name Pokémon after Daedric Princes in multiple different videos: 👁👄👁
That first round was crazy 😂😂
I can’t stand for the Gen 2 hate, that’s my childhood lol
My condolences
Being part of your childhood doesnt change the fact that the dex is TRASH
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854 Besides it has some good mons and ones that would go on to get good final evos. I'm not going to act like it's the best dex but it's not all trash. Even the weaker Pokemon I think have some of the better desgins then the trash of gen 5 or 7. It was gen 2 right after gen 1 certainly not perfect games or dexs but as a kid it was great. At least we didn't have to sit through 30 min ugly cut scenes to get our starter like gen 7.
@@finnsnow2495 lol, you dont have to be so deffensive about this, just say that most of the dex sucks , embrace the mistakes, the 5 good gen 2 mons aint saving the rest of the other 95 mon, and the gen 2 evolutions arent credit of the gen 2 dex, gen 2 dex doent have gliscor, it have gligar
@@finnsnow2495 there was no reason to add so many baby pokemon... That's a big part about why the gen 2 dex is seen as crap
3:15 his face I cant- 😭😭😭
Got to love the unexpected Modestep reference
Gen 2 Pokedex is actually the strongest thing about the generation. I will NOT respect Gen 2 Pokedex slander, Pat. I. WILL. NOT.
Ah yes, Ledian, Meganium, Furret, All the baby non evolved, Stantler, Jumpluff, Magcargo...
@@jorgeperez2872 Ok, you wanna play the idiot game? Let's go. Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Furret is amazing don't slander him, Crobat, Lanturn, Ampharos, Azumarill, Politoed, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon, Slowking, Steelix, Scizor, Heracross, Skarmory, Houndoom, Kingdra, Donphan, Blissey, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi. I even left out a few that got great evolutions later so without them in Gen 2 that wouldn't have happened. Congrats on naming the babies and 6 other Pokemon from the dex that you think are bad though.
@@northwind2538Furret is linoone but weaker, azu is bad without huge power (non gen 2) , donphan is arguably bad and the ones that evolve in gen 4 are not gen 2 accomplishment. And also Ariados
@@northwind2538 And legendaries don't count
@@jorgeperez2872 It's astounding how instantly you contradicted yourself by saying "Azu is bad without Huge Power (non Gen 2)" but then comparing Furret to Linoone, which is also non Gen 2. You can't use one argument in tangent with the other. And yes legendaries count because they are a part of the dex? Which was my entire point in the first place? Don't bother responding to this, though, cause I'm done talking to what is clearly a child.
The quiet "So, no head?" from Pat lol
GB Luke and Patterz best combo by far
I can't belive Combee forced a +4 Sp.att Hypno to swap out xD
The alola region is underrated
i loved the video, i love it when you do videos with pat
You should one like this but you list every game that it's in
I love your vids keep it up
Love ur content lukey keep it up
06:42 the fight started
"The one you got was MALE Combee" had me dying of funni
7:24
How did you manage to quote the FNAF movie before the FNAF movie even came out?
Wow, Pats luck is something else 😂
If we're talking Gen 2 in the context of Gen 2 (aka Gold/Silver/Crystal) then yeah most Gen 2 mons are dogwater, a lot of them got deserved glowups over time though. Honestly if we wanna talk relative modern powerlevel I'd maybe put Gen 3 as a contender to be at the bottom or at least *near* the bottom (which hurts as it's my favorite gen lol). Unlike Gen 2 which originally had a few really strong mons and a massive handful of crap mons that later got their glowups, Gen 3 didn't really get much of the same treatment in the glowup department. It does at least have some of the strongest/most consistent legendaries to this day though, which is nice, especially in a world where Zacian and Miraidon exist! May the weather trio continue to reign eternal.
Gen 2 is probably one of the best gens for this game as there are a lot of baby pokemon that evolve to good pokemon and a lot of gen 2 got later evolutions as well as the good pokemon from the generation.
I love hypno, i feel like he's forgotten and only remembered by creepypasta and offbrand
4:55 but incarnate is literally so much better than therian landorus lol
Lethal League music? Beautiful
Pat had no business winning this especially after talking trash bout gen 2( even though I agree with him)
the editing is goated
Thanks Lukey, We appreciate you
Hi guys, how do you randomize pokm violet, id love to know because im trying to but i cant. Your videos are fire
Monstercat music is a perfect fit for Pokemon content, but that Tekken 7 PacMan theme is great as well :D
Gen 7 is my fav (but eeveelutions still remain top for my fav pokemon)
Sorry to ask, but does anybody know the audio that plays at 6:54? I've been searching for a while and can't find it
i swear, the one time i got shiny male combee i was so pissed off
Patterz really fumbled all of the gen 9 starters 💀💀💀
Get rekt Patterz, that's what you get for saying you'd never pick Gen 2 lmao
i really like gens 3 and 6
ur the best youtube keep it up
Male Combee 😂😂😂
After they finished making the video, he for sure asked him to just edit that part of the video out. 😂
13:32 I need more of this humor in Pokémon VS vids.
Am I the only one who doesn't agree with not being able to evolve male Combee? Another example would be Salandit, but you can't tell which gender it is, so they probably would evolve it anyway.
LMAO Patterz out here dunking on gen 2 and got instant karma. Typhlosion is my favorite Pokémon too XD Then Luke getting a larvitar right after! There's some great pokemon from gen 2!
If u realized that pat fumbled all the gen 9 starters
That Battle was all Combee
Immediate gen 2 hate. Subbed to Pat.
(Let's act like I haven't been watching both for ages, shh.)
I was almost certain the white t-shirt you wore in the opening clips was a Mercedes f1 shirt. I was a bit sad when i saw it wasnt 😅
Landerous incarnate is better in singles than therian. Its Ubers. Therian may be better in doubles cause intimidate but I dont play doubles so idk. You also sent the nasty plotter into a very prolific special wall. That is why it did no damage.
Scarlet and Violet improved the average BST of fully evolved Gen II Pokémon by a bit.
My favourite is Gen 4. Cynthia is my favourite trainer, Garchomp is my favourite Pokémon, and Sinnoh was my favourite region
I agree that statistically gen 2 mons are bad, but the gen 2 mons that are in SV are often really good... I feel everything but delibird and hoppip line are good
Good video
Round one really has godzilla vs a literal bee XD
Spicy finale
Pat once again with the banger nicknames
I love how they played his theme from Undertale when he said vespiquen
My favourite is gen 5 because Pokémon white was the first game I got. Don’t try and change my mind it ain’t gonna work
Heracross is my fav pokemon! 🐐
new video yay
My favorite generation is Gen 7
Alola was not even my first region but it had quite an epic First Impression
Funny part is spidops is underrated, during my playthrough it was one of my best and helped to take down the league and champion
My first pokemon game was either diamond or platinum... can't remember it was 2009 and I was deployed... so gen 4 will always have a special place in my heart. But I've only played gen 8-9 since then, so 4 it stays, even though arceus was really dope
Pat was going for style points 😂😂😂
Overall my favorite generation is 5, though 9 is really giving it a run for its money - the DLC is going to make it or break it. However, like every Pokemon fan, I have a soft spot for my roots - the generation I started with.
In generation 2.
Luke try winning a unit ranked match with only eevee evolution cause now we have 5 of them
“Im gonna hurricane you with my combee” 💀