Wood or Mechanical Pencils - which pencils should you use?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- It's five years to the day that I posted my first RUclips video so today is a bit of a celebration! The video was showing how to use pencils and how to draw my character, the Ginger Ninja. • How to draw the Ginger...
So today I thought I would talk about pencils again and explain the differences between traditional wooden pencils and mechanical pencils. You can see how traditional wooden pencils are made it this terrific video from Derwent • Video It's introduced by my friend Alex Farthing, who runs the Pencil Museum in Keswick, when I will be on October 23 24 25th 2013 - see you there!
The main difference is the leads. Pencils don's actually use lead, they use graphite. Wooden pencils mix graphite with clay to add strength and wax to make them a bit smoother. The more clay, the harder the pencil. Hard = H Soft = B so the standard HB pencil is in the middle - a Goldilocks pencil - not to hard and not too soft!
Mechanical pencils can have very fine leads which mean you don't have to sharpen them. But this puts huge strain on the lead while you draw. So they are are graphite mixed with polymers to give extra strength. If you press lightly, I find Hi Polymer leads erase more cleanly, so they are slightly better for underdrawing of pen and ink drawings.
Wooden pencils allow the lead to shape itself and you can use the lead sideways on for more effect. I always feel more "connected" to ideas and feelings when I use a wooden pencil - if you know what I mean!
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I use a Rotring Tikky Graphic 0.3 pen and copic ciao marker pens. The paper is fairly cheap drawing cartridge or bristol paper.
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How about..... both. Mechanical for drawing, wood for shading.
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When I was a kid I used to love mechanical pencils and would only draw with those, but now I'm more of a fan of wooden pencils. There's just something about the way they feel and the smell of the wood and graphite that instantly bring me to a happy place where I can just focus on my doodles.
i think mechanical pencils because i think when i write it looks better but regular pencils can shade better
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I've recently started to use a Uni Kuru Toga. I love it and reckon it's the 'king' of mechanicals! The composition of the leads is revolutionary.
I use mechanical pencils for Writing down notes and I use wooden pencils for drawing. :)
me too, but for most of the lining, i use mech pencil :D
What are mech pencils?
Oh,I get it,mechanical pencils.Same here
same
Finally, I have been looking for a sharpener just like the ones in the factories. God bless you! I subbed.
I love his personality. So fun, relaxing and educational.
I personally like Staedtler everything, I have a set of Staedtler wooden pencils and all their range of mechanical pencils. Also love their eraser and sharpeners. There are also some fancy mechanical pencils they make that I haven't been able to find in shops, guess I'll have to order those.
Both kinds are great. For me, it's a pretty simple rule of thumb:
Want flowy dynamic lines with varying weight? Go with traditional wooden pencil. (You'll be wasting your time widening lines in a way that's not natural if you're trying this with a mechanical pencil.) These also tend to be better for smoothly shading in large areas.
Need tight and highly consistent fine lines? Nothing beats the mechanical pencil. (Trying that with a wooden pencil means you'll be wasting half of it in the sharpener.) I always prefer these for fine detail work.
And how do clutch pencils fit into this?
Congrats on 5 years of great videos! I work with kids being adopted out of the foster care system in Portland Oregon and I love introducing your videos to them. I love all kinds of pencils and love to show the kids how you can draw, draw, draw with whatever you have at hand.
I prefer wooden pencils because mechanical pencil leads can be downright *squeaky* at times, like scratching fingernails on a chalkboard.
+Shoo Rayner I like drawing myself and I prefer drawing with mechanical pencils for some reason, it feels like my lines are drawn cleaner with it. And the lead stays nice and sharp as it wears down while a wooden pencil's tip becomes blunter so your lines aren't as sharp looking and I find it a real hassle sharpening one because some pencils or sharpeners just plain suck and it the pencil doesn't want to sharpen right at all.
yesterday i sharpened my pencil 5 times and every single time it broke. I tried to sharpen 10 different pencils and the same thing happened.
same
If it’s squeaky, try using a softer lead grade like 2B, or even try higher quality lead. I recommend Pentel Ain Stein 2B. I use that with a Steadtler 925 25 0.5 Drafting pencil and I have no problems with squeaking.
@@retrohai7897 I had the same problem. Get a new sharpener,or try not to make it too sharp. Either you sharpened it too much,or it broke while it was inside the sharpener.
Good question......
I prefer mechanical, because when I use wood pencils I don't like the hard grip. And mechanical pencils have more better grips and features...... SO I LIKE TO USE MECHANICAL PENCILS OVERALL
I use Kuru Toga 0.5 mm mechanical pencil because it produces consistent-width lines because there is a rotating mechanism in the pencil that always keep your lead on the sharpest point. I dont really like wooden pencils very much because they require too much sharpening. Although my favorite thing to do with wooden pencil is to sharpen them with an exacto knife.
Happy Anniversary. Although I used mechanicals for a long time, I recently changed to wood. Something about a wood pencil makes it a more satisfying experience. Good video. I just watched the one about the making of Derwent pencils. It was fascinating. thank you for taking the time
Happy 5 years Shoo!
I love the texture and line variation you can get with wooden pencils, but mechanical pencils are so much more convenient and make for much cleaner work. Not having to sharpen is nice and my point is always sharp without constant maintenance. I also prefer the feel of holding a mechanical pencil.
Thanks for sharing!
@@shooraynerdrawing Yw. Great video!
I think both of them are great
Mechanical pencil are always better now **R.I.P WOOD PENCIL**
i use wood pencils but the problem is that u always need to replace the pencil but i like them both
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Mechanical Pencils Rule! Wooden Pencils such because they break so much.
I just started playing with mechanical pencils today and I can see like you said why alot of artists like them so much.
mechanical for hatching and defined lines, wooden for smooth shading and implied lines
I prefer wooden pencils to mechanical as you can do different styles with wooden you can get thin sharp lines to think lines
i have been sharpening pencils wrong for 18 years FUCK ME O_O
The main reason I like Mechanical Pencils better is 1. you never have to sharpen them so they stay pretty skinny all the time, unlike wooden ones when you use it a lot, a side of it gets flat, and you have to sharpen it like every 20 mins. 2. erasers for mechanical pencils are usually much easier to erase (depending on what kind of pencil brand you buy), but when I erase with say, a wooden pencil writing with the eraser that comes on it, it usually just smears it and makes a loud sound that, imo, is distracting. Idk, probably just me.
Do you know if kneaded erasers work on mechanical pencils?
chad shahriyar Sorry I have no idea what kneaded erasers are, so I've never tried one. :/
+Alexis Alexander Its OK. But thanks anyway :)
This is pretty late on the matter, but I actually just learned what kneaded erasers are a while ago. They most likely work for erasing because, well, regular pencils use graphite as well. There's no reason why it shouldn't work to be honest.
Alexis Alexander Thanks!
Wooden pencils are great for drawing or bubbling on test scantrons. Mechanical pencil are great for writing.
It's is very wise to have a wooden pencils vs mechanical . But both are great.
Derwent is the best. I just picked up a set and am over the moon with my drawings.
i think its better to use aa mechanical pencil because if you think about the wood on the pencil being put in the bin and only the graphite being really used but the mechanical pencils dont waste wood only use graphite. However , if somebody throws the pencil away that gets wasted but i have a mechanical pencil myself (KOH -I- NOO TOISON D'OR 5900) and i keep it very safe because i really like being eco-friendly.
Grim Z bro it waste more wood cause you need to burn wood to make plastic
Pencils are eco-friendly, you have to remember wood is reforested timber (otherwise they would be ridiculously expensive).
also with th 2mm lead of a wooden pencil you waste a lot of lead just to get the tip sharp again.
You forgot to mention clutch pencils. I like these a lot as they are kind of in between the propelling style of pencil and the traditional pencil. Faber-Castell and Staedtler do some nice ones. You also get to buy the special sharpener for them. 😀
I just bought an 800+ by the way. Expensive but very nice and should last a long time.
Yes it’s as if these imbeciles have never heard of them
Look up lead holders,you can use larger leads and get a larger range.
I like wood pencils because I like to write hard, squeezing against the paper so when I use mechanical pencils, the lead breaks in like 3 seconds and I have more control and feel more comfortable using wood pencils than mechanical pencils plus for people who is saying wood pencils breaks in like 20 mins, you probably aren't use to write with wood pencils. I sharpen my wood pencils once a week. Ps. Yes I'm not used to write in mechanical pencils, no hate.
This is literally th exact same reason why I prefer wooden pencils too.
It takes a bit of time to get used to mechanicals but they are an amazing option to have since you can just throw one in your pocket and not worry about taking a sharpener. Wooden ones are better at some fronts (nob breaking as easily is one of them) but be aware that mechanical ones have advantages as well such as not needing to be sharpened, relatively consistent lines and teaching you to control the pressure you apply which helps with Nibs and anything involving brushes as well.
In exchange for this information, will you give me the secret of sharpening a pencil once a week?
How hard do you press on the pencil!!?
Wooden are my favorite I just love the way it feels when you sharpen it
I'd go with lead holders
I like the collection its awesome
I have a question.
What would you say is more important for an artist?
Is it natural talent or passion and hard work?
Both perhaps?
In my art classes in college, I have always been told by teachers that passion and hard work beats natural talent any day.
However, some people who don't know any better feel that art is a natural born talent.
I feel that anybody can learn through education whether is be school or private lessons or even self-taught.
But passion and hard work are what I feel is most important.
What are your thoughts on this subject?
Have you tried the pentel graphgear 1000 mechanical pencil? I love it for many of the reasons you mentioned liking the rotring 800. I just found your videos a few weeks ago and have been working my way through them. Keep up the good work! I wish I'd found your videos years ago! :)
Awesome video lol :D i like wooden pencils they feel warmer on my hand and more comfortable using them, but mechanical pencils r cold and kinda hard!
I like using the mechanical pencil better i have been using wood pencil almost all my life, till the recent year i started to use MP i was shocked at how my drawings got better by using them. And friends sure did notice the difference, i feel more in control in Mp, and cleaner thats the difference
for me it entirely depends on what I'm drawing , if I'm drawing something realistic I use a mechanical pencil because I can make small light outlines or guidelines..with a regular pencil , however, you can actually learn what each stroke is used for and it covers more surface area so it makes shading easier , at least for me it does especially if I'm trying to shade naturally without blending
tbh I use both
I prefer Mechanical pencil's because,when you break the tip of the pencil u can easily push the top and start writing again.My second reason is i get a better grip on mechanical pencil's than wooden pencil's
I find mechanical pencils excellent for doing fine, detail work in a drawing.
Mechanical pencil is good for details while wood is good for shading
to be honest, use only 2B and HB.
2B pencils are very soft and make nice, soft to the eye tones and can be used up to gray. HB can be used to go into H tones until white.
There's this store that's only a couple minutes away from my house that only sells lead available in 2B and HB
Shoo - have you ever/do you ever use the "clutch" or "leadholder" style of mechanical pencil?
On behalf of the wood pencil, sometimes its fun to make a fat line :) Great comparison Shoo!
I'm probably going to invest in some rotring pens and pencils :)
They look very good!
I have noticed that many illustrators switch from traditional art to digital and give up on pencil and paper. Personally, I prefer to draw on paper and scan it into photoshop and do the rest of the art there. I feel that there is a magic to pencil and paper I just love it so much I could never give it up! Still, I feel that digital is a further stage in the art. What are your views on this?
Mechanical pencils are way better couse they are consistent. When you use a whole pencil you will have just a small piece of wood. But with mechanical pencil you can just put a new lead in that baby and start drawing again :D
I dont really like wooden pencils at all bc i dont like the sharpening process and how it wears down and makes a thicker line over the time you use it. I do love mechanical pencils bc you push a button at the end of the pencil and get led like 'BAM', it doesnt shorten, and the led doesnt get thicker unless you start at a weird angle.
some mechanical pencils like the uni kuru are cool because they have mechanisms in place to keep the lead the same width. It slight spins every time you lift the pencil from the paper so it's constantly spinning. Basically, it's automatically doing the spinning for you that you usually have to do with regular lead pencils when one side of the lead becomes flat.
Shoo Rayner what kind mechanical pencil do u prefer plz reply me back
Jason Lee I do all of my art in the uni kurus! I love the .5 and .3 s. Small yes but perfect for me
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It actually does get thicker if you hold it at the correct angle (about 30 to 45 degrees) but that's part of the fun! You can make slightly thicker or thinner lines but still don't have to worry about sharpening it.
could you do a giveaway/competition for those pencils? i like that idea - using wooden pencils to feel connected to the universe lol! :D
OH! The hardness indicator doesnt chang the leads... It just shows you whats in it so when you have like 30 on your desk you can pick up the right one. Its taken me 20ish minutes of pondering how the lead changing mechanism worked to realize this...
" connected to the universe with a wooden pencil "best line
Rotring 800 is quite expensive. about 50 USD.
But I think, Rotring is the best mechanical pencil company to write.
Mechanical and clutch 2.0 for me! Wooden pencil user before. I have a set of different 0.5mm mech pencil and the wooden pencil is equivalent to a clutch pencil 2.0mm best for shading no need for pencil extention and has a stable weight unlike wooden pencil that is consumable.
Mechanical seems simple and good.
Its difficult finding the perfect wooden pencil that doesnt break with the best blending and so on.
Derwent FTW! my personal favorite brand.
How do you feel about charcoal? Pros? Cons?
What about mechanical pencils with 2mm lead size?.
Jose Puga Well that's pretty much a normal pencil but with a mechanical body
Jose Puga it is a lead holder
Jose Puga ur dead with thoes
5mm is best
I would think every artist has moods, I use both.Sometimes I use those flat carpenters pencils.I heard of a guy who paints with his own blood,Now that's way over the LINE (yes, pun intended) as far as I'm concerned.
In architecture class, only a mechanical pencil will do. The lines have to be exact thicknesses. A traditional pencil slowly gives a fatter and fatter line, even with constant sharpening, it's very very hard to control; the teacher actually made us try to prove this point.
Foxhole Atheist True. It seems lot of Atheists are musicians and LOTS of musicians are also artists. :-).What a talented lot we are.I was also impressed to hear how you built your studio.
love this video
I love the Kuretake Zig Millennium pens for sketching. I also ❤️ LOVE ❤️ your videos! Could you possibly make a doodling / sketching patterns video? If so thanks!
I hate videos that say "which one should you use", and then they say its up to you. The reason people watch these is to see which to use!
OK, I understand, but i'm having trouble making up my mind.
today i bought a mechanical pencil i didnt try it yet i think these are better for drawing then normal pencils they make a thin lines, but i didnt find rOtring brand that i want instead i found moLin brand but i think any brand will work
To stop all arguments about him on in which sharpeners the best, I use an xacto or an Olfa for a long point which I can get the sharpest point I want.
I really needed this video
I love the sharpener you used! Can you tell me where to get one online (cause ii live in the states) so probably purchasing online would be my best bet. And it ll insure that i get the correct one !! Thank you
I prefer wooden pencils. Are classic and better for shading
Lead Holders are the best of all worlds.
I use both but mechanical pencils way more. I am a product design student so all pencil drawings have to be fine lined anyway and mechanical pencils work better for this. But if it's shading a wooden pencil then get's used. I never go anywhere without both.
When I use pencil to draw and for the drawing to stay pencil, I use wooden pencils. But when I'm going to cover the lines up with ink and do digital work afterwards, I like to use mechanical pencils. Though I have to say ,it's not wise for most mechanical pencils to have more than 5 leads in there, I've more than once had them all try to go into the end and it broke the pencil.
Thanks and congrats shoo
Oh wow, this video is old, but the almighty RUclips algorithm found it for me.
I will still mention there are 2.0mm and 5.6mm mechanical pencils that you can also get all kinds of fillings for, especially for 5.6mm you can get charcoal and white and reddish tints and whatever, but i am kind of thinking you may have shown that in the past 6 years :P
What subjects did you choose in school, Shoo?
If one likes dark letters/numbers, what type of lead should one buy? Must one worry about snappage especially if one uses 0.3 or 0.5 mm? What setup would you recommend for maths/engineering that are mechanical & best for precise writing?
My favorite mechanical pencils are those Bic ones. They’re cheap and the eraser is really and they write good.
Whats the sharpener called
Hey I have a request. Could you do a video on drawing superheroes? Since so many people are trying to break into comics, I think it might be interesting to see what you come up with. Rock On Artist!
Why one or the other? Why not both?
Each has its own use.
thanks shoo , i really needed this video .
I use both. A Graphgear 1000 & Derwent Graphic Pencils which were my fav until I recently got some Mars Lumograph because the Derwents have this soft cedar that easily breaks apart when I try to sharpen the softs like 8b. Have you experienced this?
I did research on sharpeners & the best way to sharpen pencils (especially colored prismacolor pencils which break easy (a common problem) & this had my buying numerous sharpeners. I now use a hand Prismacolor Sharpener.
I'm thinking of buying a rotring tikki , which would you think is the cheapest and best for begginers
Wooden have a better balance and a longer counterweight on the back instead of a mechanical which has a forward weight (all the mechanisms and springs) that isn't as precise. Normal pencils also have erasers that don't click every freaking time you write also that's annoying. Wooden pencils look better and are usually thinner. The little clip is useless also haha I never use it it just gets in the way.
Yolo McSwagginz The balance on a mechanical depends solely on the pencil. In some, the differing balancing points are actually good depending on how you write. And just because a feauture is useless for you doesn't mean it is for everyone.
A wooden pencil gets thicker the longer you use it. A mechanical will roughly stay a certain width.
some people just like to make a war between wich one is better i just like to think mechanical is better buuut there are people who just think something is better because its the only thing they have without even trying the other version i tried both and i liked mechanical more but its all your prefrence
usually the pencil i find on school under a table
Anyone have tips on the best way to sharpen wooden pencils? Im curious how well electric or hand crank sharpeners work. Ive been using a Kum long point sharpener and toutching things up with sandpaper.
The best way to sharpen one is to get a sharpener from the 80's they were very well made, I have an electric sharpener from the 80's and it is amazing so much power and even sharpening, have not used it in almost 20 years since I switched to the mechanical pencil in the mid 90's, you can find some wall mounted ones on eBay for not much.
can you use other brand lead in a Rotring?
I love the rotring pen
Really interesting video Shoo - can I ask if there is much of a weight difference between the Rotring mechanical pencils you have? I have a standard 0.5mm Rotring Tikky - it's my pencil of choice but I do feel as though it'd be nice if it had a little bit more weight to it..
Will you please draw moe from the three stooges please
I still have a "Fight" in my mind between wood pencils and mechanical pencils. I tend to either favor both or the mechanical pencil,cause they don't need to be sharpened,and leaves way less of a mess.And I hear that mechanical pencils makes your drawings look more precise.Where did you get that pencil sharpener that makes a long point? Is it available in the U.S.?
If you can find a Dick Blick art store, you can get the Kum Long-point sharpener. (Luckily they're also online.) Other than that it's hit-or-miss trying to find the thing at other art supply retailers.
You know i am currently using the same inking pen, that you do safe to say, i feel like boss using pro tools from pro artist Ahem Xd i really enjoyed this video and plenty of your other videos and i wish i could come all the way from my home town to take a class, i really feel i am going to feel right at home ^_^
Hi, what do you think of the 800? There are some negative reviews about the tip rattling. I use the rapid pro and 600.Would love to buy the 800 but am not sure? Would you be able to give me some feedback on the 800 please? Thank you.
I no longer use wooden pencils, I decided to switch to leadholder pencils.
I don't really like the texture of the wood of the pencils
but they are good if you need to sharpen or shade
Mechanic Pencils can snap the lead part easier since there is no wood as protection if you make the lead long enough
but the texture and the experience is more normal to me imo but yet i still like both
What kind of sharpener is that? :O If you gave me a link to that and I bought it, I might actually consider changing from mechanical pencils to wooden ones! :D
Just search up Kum long point sharpener. I believe it's from Palomino and comes in red or black.
Prince Plotena Thank you! :D
I like both of them personally. It depends what I'm using.
Never used mechanical pencils might get some where do you get them?
MysteryPink and TCG The dollar store
What kind of fineliner is that
I Prefer Mechanical Pencils Because I Love How They Write And Also, They Last Longer Than Regular Pencils (If You Take Good Care Of Them).
I thinck led pencils are better because when the led brokes we can just posh the back
Interesting this video was posted today... buying a Pentel Graphgear 1000 today :D