As a welder when i saw that you are gonna stick weld them i was like.. please dont.. cuz a lot of ppl around cars dont know how to mig weld not to stick :D and then you show us these.. damn you are a good welder! :] well done
I really like your cutting jig for separating the wheel halves and welding up the new assemblies !! great workmanship stick welding these up !!! Thanks for sharing your expertise !!!!!
Don't compare the Modern Dc Inver wider with the older stick you can weld thin body panels with these welders, As shown with the clean welds by Excellent craftsmanship 👍
Ah the old banding steel's mission he sure is doing a quality job of it. Been a while since I've done banding now days I just buy wider barrels from a company that sells them for circle track racing then just cut the center from the original barrel on a lathe press it in the new barrel on a jig & weld it. It actually ended up being more cost effective because much less welding & hours involved plus the barrel's are one piece so there super strong
@@mikefpe I'm not sure of the entire size range but the common ones I dealt with mostly 15&16 inch diameter's & between 8&14 inches in width. The lathe I used was cobbled together out of old school metal spinning lathe I modified for reconditioning alloy wheels so it had multiple uses it had a reasonably deep bed but was fairly short overall you could probably setup that grinding jig to do it though ya just need to get the center out of the stock barrel with out mincing it up
I had that done in 1984 in America. It was done by the same guy that did it for my dad back in the 1950’s. I can hear your head making a popping sound as you pull it out, Lucian. Just because you just discovered it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before…
i,d say the mig is quicker but stick welds are a harder facing,when grinding back the mig welds,they are very soft,,stick welds are more time consuming to dress back,,at my work anything structural is always stick welded,,modern inverter welders even make my welds look acceptable lol
what gauge steel are you using? i'm trying to get set up to do VW stock steels for my bus and bus. i made a jig for my tire machine and i have a rim cut. i can't find a slip roller that will do more than 18 gauge but my rim's thickness appears to be 11 gauge. i'm curious if the band needs to be the same thickness as the rim's original thickness..
HI ZEWSPEED CREW A BIG HELLO FROM SCOTLAND, i loved this video very informative and a master welder at work he couldve made it easier job using diff tools BUT max respect you did it old school with arc welder couple home made jigs using fiesta hubs with all diff stud p,c,d sizes i think your both missing a trick get a tidier jig set up put a patent on them turn into sellable items as would sell worldwide dont try dont get guys??? NOW REAL QUESTION now is there anyway too make a 13inch steel wheel a larger size say 15inch by welding face of wheel to another wheel say 15 with big lip before bolts on car cut bolt pattern etc out and add 13inch wheel centre inside bigger wheel im in the process of getting the parts together to build mk1 fiesta very similar looks too beige fiesta owned vy one of you when i was 18 in 1990 i had a mk1 fiesta supersport in diamond white with red carla interior and stripe with custom pack as arches were dirt and water traps that ended in rust when car was 10 yrs old i bought it needing arches etc i got a fibesports z pack and fitted that as id a signal green xpack mk2 escort mexico id built from 14 to 17 yrs old on the fiesta i had it resprayed diamond white bought supersport graphics as well as the series x graphics ford had for xpackcars wheels i had were 7.5x13 rs 4 spoke ronal alloys and 7x13 fronts wide rs wheels were rare back then but id 4 7x13 and 4 7x15s spare from my mexico as itd same look lol loved that car wish never sold it then car was stolen during restoration BGG 999X last taxed around1999 yet i was told car had reappeared down south by someone who knew my car but one he saw was standard not x pack so if you have bought a white supersport BGG 999X its stolen from small town outside Glasgow and owner will reposess unless a deals came too anyway back to you guys at zewspeed car im building this time will be mk2 fiesta (prob cvh of some sort)but change front end to mk1 and tailgate and fit x pack bodykit as mk2 cvh shell makes life easy putting zetecs etc in nut n bolt job basically but as youll know mk1 chassis legs at front too narrow for cvh/zvh conversions so i want best of both worlds mk1 looks but mk2 improvements ill tub rear so can fit bigger wheels and tyres id love a set of 15inch ford rostyle wheels with chromecross centres and banded too around 15inches high by 10 inches wide rear and 15x8 fronts if not rostyle we called them seventies sports the steel wheels fitted to cortinas mk4,5 rs2000 and mexico mk1 and 2 steel wheels original are 13 inch and from 5.0 5.5 and 6.0 was flat wide rims usually with chrome rings and centrecaps before wheeltrim days with sierras etc any of those style classic rims can you guys make a 13inch high wheel into a 15inch or above even if i got rostyles id chrome wheels and enamel in black bits if can do send me a price and lets get talking as dont care if have parts waiting on right car im supposed to look at xr2 with rsturbo engine and box has some rust at front cpl dents too on e reg 88 if shells good underneath and in places that rot ill buy it as front will be changed kit took off so ill sell turbo engine and ancilleries keep gearbox as lsd sell xr2 bumpers and bodykit wheels (rs7spokes13inch) and use cash for buying a mondeo 2.0 zetec fit it in bay with stand alone ecu but once built ill run into ground and use abuse but next builds spaceframed front to rear and rear wheel drive it using mk2 escort parts like ford built the fiescort i cant afford the bda rs200 engine lol keep up good work and any help on wheels or addvice how to make 13in become 15 or 16 id be greatfull but genius on your jigs and ideas wanna see dragons den so goodluck and stay lucky to you and your familys brian
What length band do I need for 14inch toyota rims Ive made a jig like yours and have my wheels split. I'm wondering how much extra length do you get the machine shop to leave on
Why go through the trouble of building bands when there's so many wheels at the salvage yard available..just cut out the width you need from rim of proper diameter... that is how I have made my rims to fit with the desired width...I will even just use my center section in a hoop of a different brand if it is right width...
Doing that with a stick welder and no special tools like a lathe - respect!
There is always more than one way to do it as it seems.
As a welder when i saw that you are gonna stick weld them i was like.. please dont.. cuz a lot of ppl around cars dont know how to mig weld not to stick :D and then you show us these.. damn you are a good welder! :] well done
Patrik Durian thanks 😊 zaks pretty good as blobbing it in and sticking stuff together now 👍🏻
I really like your cutting jig for separating the wheel halves and welding up the new assemblies !! great workmanship stick welding these up !!! Thanks for sharing your expertise !!!!!
Great as always, good to see oldskool arc welding. I know where I am sending my steels!!!!
Sweet job! Well done and thanks for the information!
This is a lost art
Don't compare the Modern Dc Inver wider with the older stick you can weld thin body panels with these welders, As shown with the clean welds by Excellent craftsmanship 👍
Ah the old banding steel's mission he sure is doing a quality job of it. Been a while since I've done banding now days I just buy wider barrels from a company that sells them for circle track racing then just cut the center from the original barrel on a lathe press it in the new barrel on a jig & weld it. It actually ended up being more cost effective because much less welding & hours involved plus the barrel's are one piece so there super strong
What sizes can you get the barrels in? to do that we would need a big arse lathe next really.
@@mikefpe I'm not sure of the entire size range but the common ones I dealt with mostly 15&16 inch diameter's & between 8&14 inches in width. The lathe I used was cobbled together out of old school metal spinning lathe I modified for reconditioning alloy wheels so it had multiple uses it had a reasonably deep bed but was fairly short overall you could probably setup that grinding jig to do it though ya just need to get the center out of the stock barrel with out mincing it up
We are starting to do that here in America. That shits dope!
youre only decade behind europe
I had that done in 1984 in America.
It was done by the same guy that did it for my dad back in the 1950’s.
I can hear your head making a popping sound as you pull it out, Lucian.
Just because you just discovered it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before…
Amazing work👍
Love that mount/jig genius
Mad respect for doing that with stick,
Zac done my steels for my mk3 fiesta 👍🏻 spot on job 👍🏻
Another happy customer :)
TOTAL SKILL awesome work
Awesome job guys 🇬🇧😎🇬🇧
Intresting vid, thanks!
So is the outside welded also? Looks like the video ended before I could get a look.
The transit wheels you did. What was the thickness of the steel and how many inches wide thanks mate made that look easy 👍
Zak uses 3mm thick bands and i think they were a 2 " wide band. i will double check tho ;)
Sick video! Could you please please do one on setting up a basic stick welder?
i,d say the mig is quicker but stick welds are a harder facing,when grinding back the mig welds,they are very soft,,stick welds are more time consuming to dress back,,at my work anything structural is always stick welded,,modern inverter welders even make my welds look acceptable lol
Loved this
Very very good.
👍
Good to see
Nice!
Bloody good welding and great video
Is the ground going thru the wheel bearing? I have a 250 amp Hobart you can have(USA) I like the stick too,
nice job... can i see your grinder stand and rim stand
what gauge steel are you using? i'm trying to get set up to do VW stock steels for my bus and bus. i made a jig for my tire machine and i have a rim cut. i can't find a slip roller that will do more than 18 gauge but my rim's thickness appears to be 11 gauge. i'm curious if the band needs to be the same thickness as the rim's original thickness..
Does he feather his welds for restarts? Looks pretty good.
Awesome little jig there might try some on my Connect ! Get a welding fume extractor ffs £150 as those fumes are deadly 😩 very nice work
Where can I get you to do my wheels?!?!!!!
Beautyfull
How thick is the steel band
3mm thick I believe
What rod and amps 6010 rods regards Tom
Hello mate how would you recommend to get air tight welds,coating inside of wheel with tiger seal? Silicone?
James Best yer that’s the best thing to do as a precaustion.
Cheers mate
Always wondered how that was done.
HI ZEWSPEED CREW A BIG HELLO FROM SCOTLAND,
i loved this video very informative and a master welder at work he couldve made it easier job using diff tools BUT max respect you did it old school with arc welder couple home made jigs using fiesta hubs with all diff stud p,c,d sizes i think your both missing a trick get a tidier jig set up put a patent on them turn into sellable items as would sell worldwide dont try dont get guys???
NOW REAL QUESTION now is there anyway too make a 13inch steel wheel a larger size say 15inch by welding face of wheel to another wheel say 15 with big lip before bolts on car cut bolt pattern etc out and add 13inch wheel centre inside bigger wheel im in the process of getting the parts together to build mk1 fiesta very similar looks too beige fiesta owned vy one of you when i was 18 in 1990 i had a mk1 fiesta supersport in diamond white with red carla interior and stripe with custom pack as arches were dirt and water traps that ended in rust when car was 10 yrs old i bought it needing arches etc i got a fibesports z pack and fitted that as id a signal green xpack mk2 escort mexico id built from 14 to 17 yrs old on the fiesta i had it resprayed diamond white bought supersport graphics as well as the series x graphics ford had for xpackcars wheels i had were 7.5x13 rs 4 spoke ronal alloys and 7x13 fronts wide rs wheels were rare back then but id 4 7x13 and 4 7x15s spare from my mexico as itd same look lol loved that car wish never sold it then car was stolen during restoration BGG 999X last taxed around1999 yet i was told car had reappeared down south by someone who knew my car but one he saw was standard not x pack so if you have bought a white supersport BGG 999X its stolen from small town outside Glasgow and owner will reposess unless a deals came too anyway back to you guys at zewspeed car im building this time will be mk2 fiesta (prob cvh of some sort)but change front end to mk1 and tailgate and fit x pack bodykit as mk2 cvh shell makes life easy putting zetecs etc in nut n bolt job basically but as youll know mk1 chassis legs at front too narrow for cvh/zvh conversions so i want best of both worlds mk1 looks but mk2 improvements ill tub rear so can fit bigger wheels and tyres id love a set of 15inch ford rostyle wheels with chromecross centres and banded too around 15inches high by 10 inches wide rear and 15x8 fronts if not rostyle we called them seventies sports the steel wheels fitted to cortinas mk4,5 rs2000 and mexico mk1 and 2 steel wheels original are 13 inch and from 5.0 5.5 and 6.0 was flat wide rims usually with chrome rings and centrecaps before wheeltrim days with sierras etc any of those style classic rims can you guys make a 13inch high wheel into a 15inch or above even if i got rostyles id chrome wheels and enamel in black bits if can do send me a price and lets get talking as dont care if have parts waiting on right car im supposed to look at xr2 with rsturbo engine and box has some rust at front cpl dents too on e reg 88 if shells good underneath and in places that rot ill buy it as front will be changed kit took off so ill sell turbo engine and ancilleries keep gearbox as lsd sell xr2 bumpers and bodykit wheels (rs7spokes13inch) and use cash for buying a mondeo 2.0 zetec fit it in bay with stand alone ecu but once built ill run into ground and use abuse but next builds spaceframed front to rear and rear wheel drive it using mk2 escort parts like ford built the fiescort i cant afford the bda rs200 engine lol keep up good work and any help on wheels or addvice how to make 13in become 15 or 16 id be greatfull but genius on your jigs and ideas wanna see dragons den so goodluck and stay lucky to you and your familys brian
What length band do I need for 14inch toyota rims Ive made a jig like yours and have my wheels split. I'm wondering how much extra length do you get the machine shop to leave on
May i ask what type of welding rod is used ? And approximate amperage
/ rod diameter ? Seems burned in pretty nicely !!
Awesome job, what amps is he using on the welder do you know? Thanks
Hi man can you make 13inc to be 15 inc? reason i ask is i have 13 inc classic weals i like the look but they are small for the look i whont to achieve
Would need to see what the wheels look like at present to see where they can be cut.
If you can give me some advice or if you cam make a video about it ... Because i live in serbia . Its a classic opel weall from the 70/80s
Can you please tell me what amperage did you set on the welder? And please tell me if a 2 mm steel shet is thick enough
How thick the steel plate do you use for banding those wheels..is it 2.5mm or much more thinner/thicker than tht?
Ultimate Sleeper Zak uses 3mm thick mild steel for the bands
Ultimate Sleeper Zak uses 3mm think mild steel
@@mikefpe great..cheers, thanks for the info/answer..now I can start banding my 15" steel wheel..
Nice job , what's the address for Zewspeed ?
Look up a Vertical turret lathe..it would make it an easier job.
Why go through the trouble of building bands when there's so many wheels at the salvage yard available..just cut out the width you need from rim of proper diameter... that is how I have made my rims to fit with the desired width...I will even just use my center section in a hoop of a different brand if it is right width...
which diameter setap runs off set?
How safe is to do this for a 08 chevrolet silverado
is aluminium wheels done like this too ?
You weld it only from inside???
Hii
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what gauge steel do you use?
William Neigum I believe it’s 3mm think
How much do you charge for 4 wheels?
Depending on the diameter of the wheel £45 to £55 per wheel ;) based on you supplying suitable wheels
How do you finish inner band?
the inner band you cannot linish off so easily. but its not always seen
Were are u located
West London England. 👍🏻
How do you make that stand
its box section stand with an old stub axle / drum brake off an old fiesta welded on top
Thanks again
Mig is easier an cheaper
Penny pincher lol
How thick is the band
Zaks using a 3mm thick mild steel band ;)