Cope ran away!! As a Scot, & a Stuart supporter, I'd have rather Cope stood in defiance, covered in the gore of mortal battle! ..Then, he would have preserved English Honor!...But, he didn't did he! The Wee Laddy!! Hah! Aye!
Actually, he was one of the only English soldiers who did try to stand their ground. Cope was put on court-martial for the defeat and it was concluded his soldiers panicked with the Highland charge and he couldn't salvage the situaiton.
@Tiny mod the redcoats would of given him the same treatment they gave Dear Sir Willam Wallace! I don't blame him for running!He also stood as a symbol for freedom!No true Scot would wish him that British "hospitality"!
it is the real voice of real people who stood up in defiance of tyranny. it is a wonderful thing that connects us all, working, regular folk, across the globe---no matter what the fucking consequences, we won't bow down! It has a thousand languages. and a damned good sense of humor. nothing in life is better than telling your 'betters' to go fuck themselves!
I'm still diving into my Scottish roots in clan Drummond and Mackenzie, and fascinated by this history as well as of Scotland as a whole. I'm neuro divergent, so get obsessed over it😂 I'm even trying to learn Gàidhlig. 😬🙃 Thank you to all the content creators who archive and share this history. 🏴🇺🇸
For all you lovers of Scottish Amazons, here's the epitaph on Lilliard's Stone at the site of the battle of Ancrum Moor. Fair maiden Lilliard lies under this stane little was her stature but muckle was her fame upon the English loons she laid monie thumps and when her legs were cuttit off she fought upon her stumps.
LYRICS Cope sent a challenge frae Dunbar: 'Charlie, meet me an' ye daur, An' I'll learn you the art o' war If you'll meet me i' the morning.' Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. When Charlie looked the letter upon He drew his sword the scabbard from: 'Come, follow me, my merry merry men, And we'll meet Johnnie Cope i' the morningl Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. 'Now Johnnie, be as good's your word; Come, let us try both fire and sword; And dinna rin like a frichted bird, That's chased frae its nest i' the morning.' Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. When Johnnie Cope he heard of this, He thought it wadna be amiss To hae a horse in readiness, To flee awa' i' the morning. Chorus Fy now, Johnnie, get up an' rin; The Highland bagpipes mak' a din; It's best to sleep in a hale skin, For 'twill be a bluidy morning. Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. When Johnnie Cope tae Dunbar came, They speired at him, 'Where's a' your men?' 'The deil confound me gin I ken, For I left them a' i' the morning. Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. 'Now Johnnie, troth, ye werena blate To come wi' news o' your ain defeat, And leave your men in sic a strait Sae early in the morning. Chorus Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet? Or are your drums a-beating yet? If ye were wauking I wad wait To gang to the coals i' the morning. 'I' faith,' quo' Johnnie, 'I got sic flegs Wi' their claymores an' philabegs; If I face them again, deil break my legs! Sae I wish you a' gude morning'. Chorus
For me - this video is a bit of an epiphany. I've studied the sword work of my mother's Samurai heritage - the Nihon daito of the wakazashi and shoto. What I have just now realized, is that, at Prestonpans, my Father's People of the Highlands, were using the Claymore and the sgian dubh in much the same fashion. I suppose, not an earth shattering revelation to anyone else but me or my family, but I thought it worth sharing.
Small world...I’m from Cuthbert stock and my hubby is a descendent of a pirate samurai named Mori (森) who descended from Oe (小江). He’s 江守 and his great grandfather lived in the Koishikawa 小石川 (now Bunkyo Ward) in Tokyo in 1913. Ishikawa is the name of the west coast town his Samurai family originated. Mori saw many Asians pirates going up and down the Sea of Japan. He asked them to teach him to sail, and while other clans had to march across the land, he conquered rival retainers by stopping along various coastal cities southward until he ended up in Omiya on the east coast. He angered Tachikawa Ieyasu by going against one of his favored clans, ended up losing 75% of the wealth (castles, rice, boats, money), then performed seppuku. It’s why my hubby’s name is slightly different than his ancestor. Many seppuku families slightly altered their names to avoid the shame...
Highlander's were like Samurai long ago. One wrong look, a bad word, the smallest insult could lead to a clan war lasting year's! Once at the Scot's Parliament in the 16th century I think, an argument erupted, sword's and dirk's flashed like lightning, 80 men died!!
It was more than possible, success was certain. King James III had sent letters to King Louis telling him that upon Prince Charlie's success he would abdicate and Charlie would have been king. A little know fact is that this was the deciding factor in Louis sending a fleet with 6000 French soldiers to invade London via the Thames Estuary with the aim of surrounding the the City and meeting the Jacobite army. The wee German would have been arrested and Charlie would have been King. Prince Charlie had no way of knowing this when he was arguing the case for advance with Lord George Murray in Derby. Charlie took too much poor advice from an over cautious Murray until Culloden, the one time he should have listened, but by then he'd lost faith in his war council.
Brave Charlie charged with the army in the second line despite Lord George Murray insisting that he stay in Edinburgh while John Cope disguised himself as a highlander and sneaked away leaving his battered army without command
All eye witness accounts say that the Prince had to be dragged away from Culloden against his will. The story of him fleeing was a lie spread by the Butcher and his propaganda machine. History seems to forget that Charlie wasn't a seasoned General or leader, he was barely 24 at the time of the rebellion and he came closer to success than any of the previous Stuarts who tried to reclaim the throne including James II
I think they were both 24. Cumberland had his birthday party with the men under his command shortly before the battle. Oddly enough, Culloden was pretty much the only successful military campaign Cumberland fought. He failed miserably in Germany both before and after and he was sadistic and bloodthirsty in his treatment of the Highlanders after the battle, especially considering that most Highlanders actually stayed loyal to the government... Of course rebels and civilians in areas formerly controlled by rebels are never treated with the same level of respect sometimes afforded to foreign foes. The Stuarts weren't known for clemency in their treatment of rebels either.
@@albannach93 You make a show of force online, but you cower from us whenever our rallies cross. Besides, the soldiers of WW2 would support us if they saw what their actions would bring about.
My ancestry is the Cuthbert’s of Castlehill, Inverness. We fled after the Jacobite Uprisings of 1689-1692. The ancestor that would eventually come to the New World and marry into the Chickasaws was William D’Blainville Colbert born in 1695 at the Chateau du Colbert in Blainville-Sur-Orne, France. He ended up Chief of the Chickasaw as he had married the eldest daughter to gain leverage in his fur trading... I’m still doing research, but I believe he was Chief Pio Mingo and there’s a statue of him in Mississippi wearing deer skin and a coon hat.
But no I dont think my last name is celt I think my last name was from St Thomas after the celts got christianized some changed their surnames names to saints names or biblical names a good example is George@penderyn8794
The great irony of this whole thing is that unlike his men, Cope stood his ground. The investigation of military conduct during the war cleared him of blame, but he would never hold a senior command position again for the remainder of his career.
The song was written by those sympathetic to the Jacobite cause to ridicule the government and make fun of Cope for his defeat. This kind of sarcasm and mockery is present in quite a few Jacobite songs, usually targeting the Hannovarian Kings.
So he said at the enquiry. His men panicked for sure and the ferocity of the Highland charge was too much for them to bear, but you can't be sure that Cope himself didn't panic and run as well. He was highly unlikely to admit to fleeing in fright himself.
The rightful rulers of Britain, the Stuart’s, were a Scottish family but majority of the rulers weren’t born in Scotland and or Rarely visited. Some say the English throne was a much bigger prize than the throne of Scotland itself, as a Scotsman myself I can see why. If nobody gets why just think “A scot on the English throne” 💪🏻
Your basically right though the sword had been shortened ! The basket-hilted sword was by then common place, though many of these were actually original "Claymore" blades re-smithed to fit the basket type!! The Highlander tactic was basically the traditional "Celtic Charge" But they would approach within firing range discharge a volley! Then swftly rush to melee, useing Sword, Claymore and dirk and Targe in offensively!! This tactic out did Goverment forces at both Preston-pans and Falkirk!!
Sorry to burst you bubble but not many Claymore's would have been used at Prestonpans. They were generally replaced by Broadswords which were used with a targe (shield) and the sgian dubh . I think (but not 100% sure) that the last major battle that had a significant amount of Claymore's was at Killiecrankie(1689) when Bonnie Dundee was killed leading his men to victory over the forces of William of Orange.
I agree with brawladdie on the overdevelopment Re; windfarms in Scotland . I am aware that our Ancient lands are being developed by SSE and presently contain approx. 33 wind turbines on Dunmaglas Estates alone, one example. The ancestor Seat of the MacGillivray Clan and my ancestors. They call it progress but is it ?
It is progress compared to blindly using up all our fossil fuels; what do you propose when they run out? What harm do wind turbines do? People think they spoil the look of the landscape? That is hardly the end of the world - I've never heard of a turbine having a malfunction and irradiating the area for many miles around.
@@aileent4212 I've never heard of a Turbine being able to produce enough power for entire cities at a time without needing thousands and a similar number of windspeed to produce enough electricity for an even short amount of time
when scot on scot violence hardens a people for centuries after. Alastair MacDonald encapsulated it best, same with his rendition of Parcel o Rogues. none like him but the Corries none like them at that godly tier of folk music
Well I maybe didn't explain it very well but it is not a matter of personal taste whether someone can sing or not. If they can sing in tune then they can sing. And Alistair can definitely sing. Whether you like his voice or not is a different matter. That is personal taste.
@TamTheToff As I see it, the majority of Scots have never enjoyed being second-class citizens in the Union (but many of us do very well out of it). Would independence change that? Or would we still be dominated by our big southern neighbour, yet have no influence? Meantime, the SNP will deliver material prosperity by developing Scotland faster than ever before, e.g. covering it with wind farms. I want Scotland to remain under-developed, not destroyed. I want Scotland to remain Scotland.
Yes, but to be fair, the basket-hilted broadswords of the 18th century are loosely referred to as 'claymores' in both folk songs and printed sources, so Oso Takano may simply be meaning swords as used by Highlanders.
Claymore is really two words, claid mor, in Scots Gaelic that is "sword big" and refers to any large sword, basket hilt or otherwise. A Japanese or Russian sword could be a clay-more if it's big, otherwise it would be "sword little". Historically, in English, the word was first recorded as being used to describe the basket hilt type of sword using the word Claymore. If someone ever starts trying to tell you a claymore is the massive huge thing with no basket hilt and not anything else then they are poorly educated in this subject.
I grew up around a California pipe band, and was a bit confused about the claymore thing. I saw the macker broadsword that looked medieval, and the modern regimental basket hits. I even saw a real 17th Century one once. Have owned two swords in life, both stolen, a central Asian khindjal looking thing and a Japanese type 95 NCO sword, painted iron plain tsuba., orig scabbard. Bad landlord, & or pals.
ah, the west end of East Lothian. I know that's round about where the battle took place, but as soon as I saw the map of the Tranent, Prestonpans, Cockenzie etc. area I just thought of Cockenzie power station with its two massive chimneys clearly visible from the train & the A1, then I thought of the Gothenburg pub (& the beer). just a tad unrelated, but I thought you might appreciate it.
Hey, steady on! I'm British as well as Scots. And so were both sides in this conflict, so your comment makes no sense. (Maybe you should see it as Rome versus London). Britain is just a name for an island, thought up by a Scotsman, James VI. It's good to know what happened in the past to understand how it shaped our identities and attitudes today, but it's pointless to remain trapped as a victim of history.
"Alastair McDonald canny sing" he can certainly sing. I mean it is in tune. I'd agree that he hasn't got the most impressive sounding voice in the world. matter of taste I suppose
Perhaps it could be argued that had Charles been around during the 15 instead of his father then it could have been a much different affair. In the 15 despite the Catholicism of the Old Pretender they had a much bigger potential support than 30 years later. The union was still really new and there was much more anti-union feeling to be harnassed. Plus there was substantial support from northern England. What it lacked was a leader like Charles. James didn't arrive until it had petered out.
come out for the Jacobites but the vast bulk of the Scottish Jacobites were Episcopalians (ie Scottish Anglicans) and they supported the Pretenders despite their Catholicism rather than because of it. Prior to crossing into England the Scottish representatives in the army demanded that the Catholic officers be first stripped of their rank. Charles reluctantly agreed. The Scots did not want to be viewed by the English as a Catholic army!
General Sir John Cope performed his duty as and officer, with no stain or blemish on this character or integrity. It was the privates who turned and ran. He could not rally them, though he tried.
@@thedemiurge170 that old chestnut 🏴 The Scottish Jacobites above all wanted the restoration of the Scottish Parliament as Charlie promised 🏴☹️
But the whole battle had nothing to do with the Scots English feud - it was essentially the Roman Catholic Protestant issue, with a few people of Charlie's side simply because he was the rightful heir to the throne.
That's harsh. Do you mean he hasn't been operatically trained? I've heard some pretty ropey folk-singers in pubs and he compares very well with them. It's all about whether a performance pleases.
Richard (re your private message to me) the percentage of Catholics in Scotland was not so small because they were slaiughtered at Culloden. It was so small because of the Scottish Reformation 200 years before Culloden. I'm only pointing out the historical innacuracy in the idea that the Jacobite Army was Catholic. It in the main wasn't! It was mainly adherents to the Scottish Episcopalian Church which is the Anglican Church in Scotland. The monarch was regarded as head of the Anglican Church
Too fast for my ear . . . . Forty years ago I bought a recording of folksong settings by Beethoven, one of which was "Sir Johnny Cope" (another was "God Save the King," just for balance, one assumes). The songs were performed by the Accademica Monteverdiana, Denis Stevens, Director; Nonesuch recording H-71340. Their version was much more sedate than this one. I'd love to know if any of my Cameron ancestors were present for the party!
And then those brave Scots pushed down as far as Swalkstone and seeing the causeway they had to cross and fearing the army that may lay in wait on the opposite side, they bravely ran all the way back up to Scotland never realising that there was no army on the other side and they could have marched on to London unopposed.
accept the new order and they became the base suport for the Jacobites in scotland. I'm pretty astonished at the overall lack of understanding of Scottish history in some of these threads. Scotland had a different history from England and Ireland. It was not about Catholic v Protestant here. There simply weren't enough Catholics about to make it a major issue and scotland as a whole was vehemently anti-Catholic
"I am catholic same as most of Scotland was fact most of my clan died at Culloden" Actually that is about as far from the truth as you could get. There were Catholics in Scotland at that time but very few. A handful of Highland Clans mostly from the islands a few in Aberdeenshire (ie the Gordons) and some Lowland aristos. I've seen estimates that Catholics made up about 2% of the population in total. In England and Ireland the Jacobites tended to be Catholic. In Scotland the Catholics tended to
@brawladdie1 I like the idea of an independent Scotland, not out of any hatred for the English, but to a large extent because of a dislike of faraway governments telling powerless individuals what to do. That said I'm not actually sure that the type of Scotland (a tolerant, prosperous 1 where personal liberties are respected, but governments acknowledge the need to look after its citizens) I would like to see will ever really exist, regardless of what political party is in power & regardless of
Could someone translate the lyrics into good ol 'American English? I love the song, but I haven't the faintest idea what it means Near as I can tell, a scotsman started waving a sword around until his neighbor came out to learn to play the bagpipes - then they went on a walk to say Hi to a guy named Johnnie Cope who happens to own some drums Johnnie heard the bagpipes and thought "Well heck, better mount up because war happened" The scotsman either out-paced his buddies on the walk or they somehow got separated on a street. Then he got pissed because the other guy tried to talk him out of teaching Cope to play the pipes, so he kept waving his sword. How'd I do?
Having thought about it for longer than a minute, this song is actually kinda bloody :x While it isn't quite as nonsensical as I first thought it was, I still only got the gist of it Namely a "Let's heck up some Englanders, lads" kinda marching tune, right?
Your granny sounds scary :) . I'm a MacDougall, and I agree that the scots have warrior in their blood, but as for my granny, she'd be not good in a fight, even when she was young :D
"When Johnnie Cope to Berwick cam'" - not Dunbar. Although Cope did indeed land at Dunbar before the battle he buggered off up Soutra Hill and took the inland road to the Barracks at Berwick "'Twas Soutra Hill ere he stood still and first he tasted meat, man" - Crackin' tune nevertheless!
I think that's more or less right except for the Wars of the Covenant in the 17th century. I can't imagine there were any Englishmen in arms to defend the Scottish Kirk in the Bishops' Wars..
Very true they did beat us alot, but we won quite a good few battles against the saxons as well. Carham 1016, Clitheroe 1138, Stirling Bridge 1297, Roslin 1303, Glen Trool 1307, Bannockburn 1314, Old Byland 1322, Otterburn 1388, Haddon Rig 1542, Ancrum Moor 1545, Redeswire 1575. And yeh at Culloden there were alot of Scots on BOTH sides as it wasnt a Scotland vs England battle.
His name literally being Cope makes this poetic justice.
Nearly 300 years later poor General Sir John Cope is still being mocked.
Little Dikkins yep, by admirers of the cowardly Italian.
Cope ran away!! As a Scot, & a Stuart supporter, I'd have rather Cope stood in defiance, covered in the gore of mortal battle! ..Then, he would have preserved English Honor!...But, he didn't did he! The Wee Laddy!! Hah! Aye!
@@acerb4566 You got what you wanted 7 months later...
English honour: intact
Actually, he was one of the only English soldiers who did try to stand their ground. Cope was put on court-martial for the defeat and it was concluded his soldiers panicked with the Highland charge and he couldn't salvage the situaiton.
@Tiny mod the redcoats would of given him the same treatment they gave Dear Sir Willam Wallace! I don't blame him for running!He also stood as a symbol for freedom!No true Scot would wish him that British "hospitality"!
I really like this version; it has an obnoxious, mocking tone which works perfectly with the spirit of the song.
it is the real voice of real people who stood up in defiance of tyranny. it is a wonderful thing that connects us all, working, regular folk, across the globe---no matter what the fucking consequences, we won't bow down! It has a thousand languages. and a damned good sense of humor. nothing in life is better than telling your 'betters' to go fuck themselves!
@@brucebostick2521 amazingly put friend
Fantastic! Well put. John Bull won’t be putting us down anytime soon. Ye seen this Boris lad?! He’s nae got two pickles fae a picnic
Anything sung by a mcdonald is not good
@@garethaustin6049yer a Campbell for sure 🤣
"Wha'll be King but Cherlie?"
Was in Prestonpans last week for work had this song stuck in my head all day 💙
Johhny Cope is the revellie tune for the Scottish Regiments in the British Army
i from Brazil and my surname is Anderson. i've been studing the origin of my family and this work bring me to scottish clans back to 1100 a.c
Is your family Confederado? There are a lot of Andersons up here in East Tennessee, we might be cousins
I'm still diving into my Scottish roots in clan Drummond and Mackenzie, and fascinated by this history as well as of Scotland as a whole. I'm neuro divergent, so get obsessed over it😂
I'm even trying to learn Gàidhlig. 😬🙃
Thank you to all the content creators who archive and share this history. 🏴🇺🇸
You are cringe. Probably a woman. Stop.
I am neurodivergent likewise and belong to Clan Stirling!
this version of this song is badass. kudos to the host
Nobody:
Jacobites 300 years ago: Cope, seethe
im apart of the cope family! thank you for making this song!
Nice to meet you Zakk I am part of this family too.
you know this is to make fun of Sir John Cope, who ran away from the Jacobites, right?
That's cool, my wife is part pf the Seethe family
@@haroldgōdwinessunuhe didn't run, his men did.
For all you lovers of Scottish Amazons, here's the epitaph on Lilliard's Stone at the site of the battle of Ancrum Moor.
Fair maiden Lilliard
lies under this stane
little was her stature
but muckle was her fame
upon the English loons
she laid monie thumps
and when her legs were cuttit off
she fought upon her stumps.
and the wit of our people is what survives, ultimately. history knows he english crown as the brutal, disgusting racist scum they really were!
'me just a wiggle down the lane
with me rolled gold chain
me an' me girl name jane..'
eek a mouse ganja smuggler
LYRICS
Cope sent a challenge frae Dunbar:
'Charlie, meet me an' ye daur,
An' I'll learn you the art o' war
If you'll meet me i' the morning.'
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
When Charlie looked the letter upon
He drew his sword the scabbard from:
'Come, follow me, my merry merry men,
And we'll meet Johnnie Cope i' the morningl
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
'Now Johnnie, be as good's your word;
Come, let us try both fire and sword;
And dinna rin like a frichted bird,
That's chased frae its nest i' the morning.'
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
When Johnnie Cope he heard of this,
He thought it wadna be amiss
To hae a horse in readiness,
To flee awa' i' the morning.
Chorus
Fy now, Johnnie, get up an' rin;
The Highland bagpipes mak' a din;
It's best to sleep in a hale skin,
For 'twill be a bluidy morning.
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
When Johnnie Cope tae Dunbar came,
They speired at him, 'Where's a' your men?'
'The deil confound me gin I ken,
For I left them a' i' the morning.
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
'Now Johnnie, troth, ye werena blate
To come wi' news o' your ain defeat,
And leave your men in sic a strait
Sae early in the morning.
Chorus
Hey, Johnnie Cope, are ye wauking yet?
Or are your drums a-beating yet?
If ye were wauking I wad wait
To gang to the coals i' the morning.
'I' faith,' quo' Johnnie, 'I got sic flegs
Wi' their claymores an' philabegs;
If I face them again, deil break my legs!
Sae I wish you a' gude morning'.
Chorus
up uop
very good
perfect upp up
SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for a quality history lesson .Best Alan New Mexico USA
Ashamed to say this is the first time iv`e heard this,i`m a proud McGillivray and love my Scottish ancestry
Donald McGillivray!
Hey Johnny cope and seethe, are you walking yet?
For me - this video is a bit of an epiphany. I've studied the sword work of my mother's Samurai heritage - the Nihon daito of the wakazashi and shoto. What I have just now realized, is that, at Prestonpans, my Father's People of the Highlands, were using the Claymore and the sgian dubh in much the same fashion. I suppose, not an earth shattering revelation to anyone else but me or my family, but I thought it worth sharing.
Small world...I’m from Cuthbert stock and my hubby is a descendent of a pirate samurai named Mori (森) who descended from Oe (小江). He’s 江守 and his great grandfather lived in the Koishikawa 小石川 (now Bunkyo Ward) in Tokyo in 1913. Ishikawa is the name of the west coast town his Samurai family originated.
Mori saw many Asians pirates going up and down the Sea of Japan. He asked them to teach him to sail, and while other clans had to march across the land, he conquered rival retainers by stopping along various coastal cities southward until he ended up in Omiya on the east coast. He angered Tachikawa Ieyasu by going against one of his favored clans, ended up losing 75% of the wealth (castles, rice, boats, money), then performed seppuku. It’s why my hubby’s name is slightly different than his ancestor. Many seppuku families slightly altered their names to avoid the shame...
Interesting
Hey Jonie Cope are you walking yet...
Waukin means awake, not walking
This diss track goes hard.
Highlander's were like Samurai long ago. One wrong look, a bad word, the smallest insult could lead to a clan war lasting year's! Once at the Scot's Parliament in the 16th century I think, an argument erupted, sword's and dirk's flashed like lightning, 80 men died!!
Ah the battle that gave such false hope. Prestonpans made it look possible. Tragic time period.
+Kathleen Pfeiffer It was very much possible.
It was more than possible, success was certain. King James III had sent letters to King Louis telling him that upon Prince Charlie's success he would abdicate and Charlie would have been king. A little know fact is that this was the deciding factor in Louis sending a fleet with 6000 French soldiers to invade London via the Thames Estuary with the aim of surrounding the the City and meeting the Jacobite army. The wee German would have been arrested and Charlie would have been King. Prince Charlie had no way of knowing this when he was arguing the case for advance with Lord George Murray in Derby. Charlie took too much poor advice from an over cautious Murray until Culloden, the one time he should have listened, but by then he'd lost faith in his war council.
Do you mean James VIII
@@getout2012 and yet it didn't happen
@Tiny mod there were many English Jacobites.
absolute banger
Brave Charlie charged with the army in the second line despite Lord George Murray insisting that he stay in Edinburgh while John Cope disguised himself as a highlander and sneaked away leaving his battered army without command
All eye witness accounts say that the Prince had to be dragged away from Culloden against his will. The story of him fleeing was a lie spread by the Butcher and his propaganda machine. History seems to forget that Charlie wasn't a seasoned General or leader, he was barely 24 at the time of the rebellion and he came closer to success than any of the previous Stuarts who tried to reclaim the throne including James II
Do you mean James VII
"John Cope disguised himself as a....."? Oh, per-lease.
Matthew Widdowson Was the Butcher not of a similar age. Although he would've appeared older due to his being on the chubby side.
I think they were both 24. Cumberland had his birthday party with the men under his command shortly before the battle. Oddly enough, Culloden was pretty much the only successful military campaign Cumberland fought. He failed miserably in Germany both before and after and he was sadistic and bloodthirsty in his treatment of the Highlanders after the battle, especially considering that most Highlanders actually stayed loyal to the government...
Of course rebels and civilians in areas formerly controlled by rebels are never treated with the same level of respect sometimes afforded to foreign foes. The Stuarts weren't known for clemency in their treatment of rebels either.
That's some heritage you have! It should keep you safe in most parts of the world.
As breathless as Cope making his getaway!
This one really gets you going!
I 've paid my tribute to Cable street, where the fascist hordes of Mosley were smashed by the workers. Make fascists fear again!
@@ComradeHellas More of us arrive every day. You brag and mock online, but in private you fear us.
No one fears you fascists fucks we beat you down once we’ll do it again! ✊🏻✊🏻
@@albannach93
You make a show of force online, but you cower from us whenever our rallies cross.
Besides, the soldiers of WW2 would support us if they saw what their actions would bring about.
@@intergalactichumanempire9759 amen brother the communists and their zio-mason masters will be smashed again!
great song!greetings from Siberia!Freedom for Scotland
It's like a Scotsman just popped up out of my screen and slapped me over the face with this song!
my ancestor Alexander Grant was with the Glengaries on the Rebel Right Flank.
My ancestry is the Cuthbert’s of Castlehill, Inverness. We fled after the Jacobite Uprisings of 1689-1692. The ancestor that would eventually come to the New World and marry into the Chickasaws was William D’Blainville Colbert born in 1695 at the Chateau du Colbert in Blainville-Sur-Orne, France. He ended up Chief of the Chickasaw as he had married the eldest daughter to gain leverage in his fur trading...
I’m still doing research, but I believe he was Chief Pio Mingo and there’s a statue of him in Mississippi wearing deer skin and a coon hat.
Voice And Content Grand-Thank you
As n Irish person with Catholic Jacobite blood I fully agree this song is better than any song from ol England
based. long live the stuart monarchy
>catholic irish blood
thays why you're brown ahahaha
My first name is rowan or rohan which means ascending or raid haired in gaelic @penderyn8794
But no I dont think my last name is celt I think my last name was from St Thomas after the celts got christianized some changed their surnames names to saints names or biblical names a good example is George@penderyn8794
What is it with you micks and wishing you were Scottish?
Long live the king-Prince Bonnie Charlie!
The great irony of this whole thing is that unlike his men, Cope stood his ground. The investigation of military conduct during the war cleared him of blame, but he would never hold a senior command position again for the remainder of his career.
if that is true it changes things and the sarcastic tone becomes inappropriate..?
The song was written by those sympathetic to the Jacobite cause to ridicule the government and make fun of Cope for his defeat. This kind of sarcasm and mockery is present in quite a few Jacobite songs, usually targeting the Hannovarian Kings.
So he said at the enquiry. His men panicked for sure and the ferocity of the Highland charge was too much for them to bear, but you can't be sure that Cope himself didn't panic and run as well. He was highly unlikely to admit to fleeing in fright himself.
Wee man with big plans
Wee fanny n shat it like the rest of his men embarrassing even trying to back the clown up tbh
love this song and i live in Dunbar !!!!! xx lol xx
Scotland forever!
alba am brarth
Scotland? Jacobitism is about placing the Stuarts back on their rightful throne. Scottish nationalism has nothing to do with it.
@@Ridley369 : And "Charlie" wasn't even Scottish....he was born in Rome.
@@paganphil100 He was born in Rome from 2 Scottish parents
The rightful rulers of Britain, the Stuart’s, were a Scottish family but majority of the rulers weren’t born in Scotland and or Rarely visited.
Some say the English throne was a much bigger prize than the throne of Scotland itself, as a Scotsman myself I can see why.
If nobody gets why just think “A scot on the English throne” 💪🏻
I'm a rocker by nature - but I get a Helluva kick from this sort of folk music!
If you read the Outlander series this song features in a hauntingly beautiful incident in the story.
+Julian Thueringer Try the Corries version
+Julian Thueringer in book 5
Well hello there fellow #ladyoflallybroch
+ElizaT
#MilordBrochTuarach
:)
Jules Thurongi Shame it get plenty wrong about the history, but nice to see Scottish getting some attention.
Long live House Stuart!
The Rightful Stuart's should arise now that Queen Elizabeth 11 has passed.🏴🥀
The Rightful Stuart's should arise now that Queen Elizabeth 11 has passed.🏴🥀
Your basically right though the sword had been shortened ! The basket-hilted sword was by then common place, though many of these were actually original "Claymore" blades re-smithed to fit the basket type!! The Highlander tactic was basically the traditional "Celtic Charge" But they would approach within firing range discharge a volley! Then swftly rush to melee, useing Sword, Claymore and dirk and Targe in offensively!! This tactic out did Goverment forces at both Preston-pans and Falkirk!!
Sorry to burst you bubble but not many Claymore's would have been used at Prestonpans. They were generally replaced by Broadswords which were used with a targe (shield) and the sgian dubh . I think (but not 100% sure) that the last major battle that had a significant amount of Claymore's was at Killiecrankie(1689) when Bonnie Dundee was killed leading his men to victory over the forces of William of Orange.
A Mclachlan that loves this song😎🏴🏴🏴
I agree with brawladdie on the overdevelopment Re; windfarms in Scotland . I am aware that our Ancient lands are being developed by SSE and presently contain approx. 33 wind turbines on Dunmaglas Estates alone, one example. The ancestor Seat of the MacGillivray Clan and my ancestors. They call it progress but is it ?
GILLEBRATH Well, considering how little electricity they generate & how much they cost to manufacture & install, mebbe not
Ugh, the word 'wind' (in this context) practically makes me sick to my stomach at this point.
It is progress compared to blindly using up all our fossil fuels; what do you propose when they run out?
What harm do wind turbines do?
People think they spoil the look of the landscape?
That is hardly the end of the world - I've never heard of a turbine having a malfunction and irradiating the area for many miles around.
@@aileent4212 I've never heard of a Turbine being able to produce enough power for entire cities at a time without needing thousands and a similar number of windspeed to produce enough electricity for an even short amount of time
Catchy little tune, that one.
when scot on scot violence hardens a people for centuries after. Alastair MacDonald encapsulated it best, same with his rendition of Parcel o Rogues.
none like him but the Corries
none like them at that godly tier of folk music
Well I maybe didn't explain it very well but it is not a matter of personal taste whether someone can sing or not. If they can sing in tune then they can sing. And Alistair can definitely sing. Whether you like his voice or not is a different matter. That is personal taste.
@TamTheToff As I see it, the majority of Scots have never enjoyed being second-class citizens in the Union (but many of us do very well out of it). Would independence change that? Or would we still be dominated by our big southern neighbour, yet have no influence? Meantime, the SNP will deliver material prosperity by developing Scotland faster than ever before, e.g. covering it with wind farms. I want Scotland to remain under-developed, not destroyed. I want Scotland to remain Scotland.
Same vibes in Hawaii, late schemes for Molokai seem beaten back a piece.
Yes, but to be fair, the basket-hilted broadswords of the 18th century are loosely referred to as 'claymores' in both folk songs and printed sources, so Oso Takano may simply be meaning swords as used by Highlanders.
Claymore is really two words, claid mor, in Scots Gaelic that is "sword big" and refers to any large sword, basket hilt or otherwise. A Japanese or Russian sword could be a clay-more if it's big, otherwise it would be "sword little". Historically, in English, the word was first recorded as being used to describe the basket hilt type of sword using the word Claymore. If someone ever starts trying to tell you a claymore is the massive huge thing with no basket hilt and not anything else then they are poorly educated in this subject.
I grew up around a California pipe band, and was a bit confused about the claymore thing. I saw the macker broadsword that looked medieval, and the modern regimental basket hits. I even saw a real 17th Century one once. Have owned two swords in life, both stolen, a central Asian khindjal looking thing and a Japanese type 95 NCO sword, painted iron plain tsuba., orig scabbard. Bad landlord, & or pals.
ah, the west end of East Lothian. I know that's round about where the battle took place, but as soon as I saw the map of the Tranent, Prestonpans, Cockenzie etc. area I just thought of Cockenzie power station with its two massive chimneys clearly visible from the train & the A1, then I thought of the Gothenburg pub (& the beer). just a tad unrelated, but I thought you might appreciate it.
Hey, steady on! I'm British as well as Scots. And so were both sides in this conflict, so your comment makes no sense. (Maybe you should see it as Rome versus London). Britain is just a name for an island, thought up by a Scotsman, James VI. It's good to know what happened in the past to understand how it shaped our identities and attitudes today, but it's pointless to remain trapped as a victim of history.
I can’t wait to do this for honors choir lmao. We have to do the accent and everything. RIP me
honestly maddie 😉
He must have been Johnny Cope and Seethe after that battle
Johnnie Cope, Seethe and Dilate
Kek
This is great, my mother is a Stuart :)
Love it...
"Alastair McDonald canny sing" he can certainly sing. I mean it is in tune. I'd agree that he hasn't got the most impressive sounding voice in the world. matter of taste I suppose
Perhaps it could be argued that had Charles been around during the 15 instead of his father then it could have been a much different affair. In the 15 despite the Catholicism of the Old Pretender they had a much bigger potential support than 30 years later. The union was still really new and there was much more anti-union feeling to be harnassed. Plus there was substantial support from northern England. What it lacked was a leader like Charles. James didn't arrive until it had petered out.
Long live clan Burns! Which is my mom’s maiden name! Proud to be part of Clan Burns
come out for the Jacobites but the vast bulk of the Scottish Jacobites were Episcopalians (ie Scottish Anglicans) and they supported the Pretenders despite their Catholicism rather than because of it. Prior to crossing into England the Scottish representatives in the army demanded that the Catholic officers be first stripped of their rank. Charles reluctantly agreed. The Scots did not want to be viewed by the English as a Catholic army!
Amazing ever thank you
General Sir John Cope performed his duty as and officer, with no stain or blemish on this character or integrity. It was the privates who turned and ran. He could not rally them, though he tried.
English: WTF HOW DID WE LOOSE AT PRESTONPANS REEEEEEE
Scots: Lol COPE harder
Scots: WTF HOE DOD WE LOSE AT CULLODEN REEEEEEE
English: Lol COPE harder
The Jacobite rising wasn't England vs Scotland. Many English supported the cause of Prince Charles.
@@thedemiurge170 that old chestnut 🏴 The Scottish Jacobites above all wanted the restoration of the Scottish Parliament as Charlie promised 🏴☹️
@aye Catholic 🤢
@aye mate the Jacobites were Catholic is what I’m saying. The English that supported them were English Catholics
Long live the king long live Scotland and the stuarts long live Ireland the Ilse and the celts by Gods grace ❤🎉✝️
nice job ;
But the whole battle had nothing to do with the Scots English feud - it was essentially the Roman Catholic Protestant issue, with a few people of Charlie's side simply because he was the rightful heir to the throne.
VIVA the Latin Mass.
I’m American. Just figured someone had to be honest here
Just fair men here lad 🏴
That's harsh. Do you mean he hasn't been operatically trained? I've heard some pretty ropey folk-singers in pubs and he compares very well with them. It's all about whether a performance pleases.
There is a new book out on the battle of Prestonpans. I just got it for xmas. On Gladsmuir shall the battle be, Helion books.
Richard (re your private message to me) the percentage of Catholics in Scotland was not so small because they were slaiughtered at Culloden. It was so small because of the Scottish Reformation 200 years before Culloden. I'm only pointing out the historical innacuracy in the idea that the Jacobite Army was Catholic. It in the main wasn't! It was mainly adherents to the Scottish Episcopalian Church which is the Anglican Church in Scotland. The monarch was regarded as head of the Anglican Church
I will bow to none but my Lord (Family motto)
Зачетная песня. Респект и уважуха горцам Шотландии боровшихся против красномундирников
DuskRex и свободолюбивому народу Ичкерии.
Note to all future viewers: this is meant to be an entertainment, not an incitement to jihad.
lol
Who knows what will be in the future
Jacobite Jihad is now my new gamertag
@@connorbrink4706 Allah, Scotland and Charlie! 🤣
Jihadobite
its good of me after listening lord randall for the 100th time for school lol
Well he don't please me never has done.
Awesome Scotland Forever!!!!!
Too fast for my ear . . . . Forty years ago I bought a recording of folksong settings by Beethoven, one of which was "Sir Johnny Cope" (another was "God Save the King," just for balance, one assumes). The songs were performed by the Accademica Monteverdiana, Denis Stevens, Director; Nonesuch recording H-71340. Their version was much more sedate than this one. I'd love to know if any of my Cameron ancestors were present for the party!
kek dude was actually called cope
that frog again
ye a reptilian?
Mon the independance
Imagine this happening today , all over the internet. news channels & topical comedy shows.
good song
прекрасно
And then those brave Scots pushed down as far as Swalkstone and seeing the causeway they had to cross and fearing the army that may lay in wait on the opposite side, they bravely ran all the way back up to Scotland never realising that there was no army on the other side and they could have marched on to London unopposed.
Why is the song of my home town why just why!!!!
Check out Ewan MacCall's version. This is pretty neat as well. Thanks
accept the new order and they became the base suport for the Jacobites in scotland. I'm pretty astonished at the overall lack of understanding of Scottish history in some of these threads. Scotland had a different history from England and Ireland. It was not about Catholic v Protestant here. There simply weren't enough Catholics about to make it a major issue and scotland as a whole was vehemently anti-Catholic
"I am catholic same as most of Scotland was fact most of my clan died at Culloden" Actually that is about as far from the truth as you could get. There were Catholics in Scotland at that time but very few. A handful of Highland Clans mostly from the islands a few in Aberdeenshire (ie the Gordons) and some Lowland aristos. I've seen estimates that Catholics made up about 2% of the population in total. In England and Ireland the Jacobites tended to be Catholic. In Scotland the Catholics tended to
@brawladdie1 I like the idea of an independent Scotland, not out of any hatred for the English, but to a large extent because of a dislike of faraway governments telling powerless individuals what to do. That said I'm not actually sure that the type of Scotland (a tolerant, prosperous 1 where personal liberties are respected, but governments acknowledge the need to look after its citizens) I would like to see will ever really exist, regardless of what political party is in power & regardless of
King Cherlie (y)
@brawladdie1 Good song. Respect to mountaineers of Scotland
What instrument do you reckon this is bein played on?
Banjo, I think. (not exactly a traditional Scottish instrument!)
Haha true. Cheers!
+brawladdie1 A Banjo Ukulele I believe, like George Formby
Cheers!
Banjos have been used in Irish and Scottish traditional for centuries?
@brawladdie1 unfortunately I think you've got a point there. well, we'll just have to wait & see what happens
Johnnie Cope
Johnnie Seethe
Johnnie Mald
Could someone translate the lyrics into good ol 'American English?
I love the song, but I haven't the faintest idea what it means
Near as I can tell, a scotsman started waving a sword around until his neighbor came out to learn to play the bagpipes - then they went on a walk to say Hi to a guy named Johnnie Cope who happens to own some drums
Johnnie heard the bagpipes and thought "Well heck, better mount up because war happened"
The scotsman either out-paced his buddies on the walk or they somehow got separated on a street.
Then he got pissed because the other guy tried to talk him out of teaching Cope to play the pipes, so he kept waving his sword.
How'd I do?
Herr Dave really bad i think
Shite.
Having thought about it for longer than a minute, this song is actually kinda bloody :x
While it isn't quite as nonsensical as I first thought it was, I still only got the gist of it
Namely a "Let's heck up some Englanders, lads" kinda marching tune, right?
It isn'really right,but oh God it sounds hysterically funny,your translated interpretation!
It's about the battle of Prestonpans making fun of the English general Johnny Cope for fleeing like a coward
This doesn't exactly follow the motto "build up your enemy."
Your granny sounds scary :) . I'm a MacDougall, and I agree that the scots have warrior in their blood, but as for my granny, she'd be not good in a fight, even when she was young :D
"When Johnnie Cope to Berwick cam'" - not Dunbar. Although Cope did indeed land at Dunbar before the battle he buggered off up Soutra Hill and took the inland road to the Barracks at Berwick "'Twas Soutra Hill ere he stood still and first he tasted meat, man" - Crackin' tune nevertheless!
Bonnie Prince Cherlie: Johnnie Cope , Sneed and Dilate YWNBAW
Haven't a clue what this means - but if I had to guess, it's 'dirty'... and painful!
I think that's more or less right except for the Wars of the Covenant in the 17th century. I can't imagine there were any Englishmen in arms to defend the Scottish Kirk in the Bishops' Wars..
Very true they did beat us alot, but we won quite a good few battles against the saxons as well. Carham 1016, Clitheroe 1138, Stirling Bridge 1297, Roslin 1303, Glen Trool 1307, Bannockburn 1314, Old Byland 1322, Otterburn 1388, Haddon Rig 1542, Ancrum Moor 1545, Redeswire 1575. And yeh at Culloden there were alot of Scots on BOTH sides as it wasnt a Scotland vs England battle.
*gets annoyed in Scottish*
Och Aye