Hard facts. MK9 would have had an even BIGGER impact if Somberness (and Somberness ALONE) didnt have to go character by character, move by move, frame by frame, JUST so people would have the frame data to figure out things.
I legit found many people saying that thread was the most interesting and true take the FGC has seen in years. I mean, it's just a compilation of scrubquotes and common misconceptions from uninformed people.
With respect to negativity, and "losing the spark" as Sajam puts it, I believe you're more prone to negativity if you limit yourself to one fighter, or one game in general. The reason why is because limiting yourself to one game leaves less room for newness, and no room for escape. If you've been playing SFV since 2016... and you only play SFV, it's easy to wind yourself up in long standing grievances with no reprieve in sight. I think most of us have seen people tilt themselves on too much of one thing. I know I have myself.
Yeah, this is it. Also, the more you know about one subject, the more frustrated you get when things don't go according to plan because YOU KNOW how unlikely that was and how big the consequences might be. So, let's assume I've been playing DBFZ for a couple of years and I know its mechanics very well. If, at some point, I get hit by a wild hitbox I had never seen before despite playing for hundreds of hours, I know that thing is very unlikely to happen. And, since I know that any hit in this game converts into a combo and possibly losing a character, I'm going to be very upset. Of course that wild hitbox is perceived differently by a new player, they will think: "oh my god, that was so cool!" because they don't know how unlikely that was and everything is new and crazy in their eyes. I feel Sajam is somewhat disconnected from this. I don't really follow his streams, but I assume he's more of a variety streamer who often switches games. It's easy to be this positive when you constantly try new games and everything is new to you
i mostly only play sfv. i think it has less to do with only playing one game and more to do with living in the negativity. sajam, tasty steve, yipes, brian f, ect... i'm pretty sure are rarely ever negative .
It was the reverse for me. After I stopped playing anything but Accent Core 5 years ago, my mindset has greatly improved. I think it all depends on you fundamentally liking the game and not playing it just because it’s popular.
@@biggestbungus1295 I would say it's easy to get into a different FG once you played one mechanically. However it can be hard to justify paying for a fighting game you're not sure to enjoy, especially if it's 60 bucks. I'm kinda in the latter case besides BB being my best fg.
well its like the bad luck from breaking a mirror. you don't get a free pass because you break another mirror while already serving a bad luck sentence. at this point the shit has stacked to the point that we're due for a horrible twitter for the next 20,000 years or so
That thread is like looking at an unsusual amount of flat earthers share their take on why and how the Earth is flat on an academic level. I'm not gonna go there and argue gravity is a thing, I just leave.
I think a big source of negativity in gaming is that people get their egos wrapped up in their performance, so losing becomes painful and miserable to them because it makes them feel shitty about themselves. New players are often less negative because they don't expect to be good and they don't expect to win, so losing doesn't have the same sting to it.
I have an actual playlist of youtube videos (only three videos, but still) to watch when this exact thing happens. When I start to get disillusioned, when the spark of fighting games start to fade, I go back and watch those videos to get hyped up about being in this community, about how far this community has come, and how far I have to go in this community. The biggest of many things that keeps me from losing faith is the love for the game that will always shine through the darkness of the negativity.
I've taken the advice you shared of "spend more time playing fighting games and less time complaining about fighting games" to heart, and it's made me a happier fighting game player. Not a better one in the slightest. I can't get out of Bronze with Sagat, and I have no idea how I should be moving in Power Rangers, but I'm content more often than not.
@@P0rk_Sinigang Jokes aside, fighting against someone who knows how to use her assist right is a goddamn nightmare, it's such a good assist, absolutely impossible to get in I feel.
I feel the same way and you can apply these to any other kind of community/medium. I mean sure maybe you can start a good discussion with a take or two, but 99% of the time I feel like people make “hot takes” just to see who can make the most outrageous takes and how others will react.
Holy *shit.* As someone who's been playing fighting games for something like 30 years now, that introductory donate message was one S-tier flaming trashfire of a hot take.
Hotter take, GBVS and DBFZ are better off without bandwagoners who think they can hide their stolen wifi potato pc with rollback. NRS with WB budget and 11M copies sold took 2 years to implement rollback into MKX, anyone who demands it RIGHT FUCKING NOW!1!1 in a 9 month old Japanese game is mentally deficient and I don't wanna play that kinda people.
@@Stroggoii if fucking fight of animals can have rollback netcode your Triple A studio can make a Dragon Ball game with good netcode. Also, play wired.
If I had to say anything about fighting games, it's a great spectator when you're playing it yourself. Especially when you've dipped your toes into it, trying out a combo that seems near impossible to do, and then you see it happen during a tournament match... that's just awesome!
I think you're discussion about who you follow transcends the FGC. We still have people who call Geoff Keighly a shill, when really he seems to just love video games. There's so much negativity coming from influencers and journalists that poison people's brains and it's just bad. I've heard people called childish for showing a pure joy when playing a game, not even at reactions but when playing and enjoying a game. Imagine being called childish for truly enjoying a game like Resident Evil 2?
Here's the only single true take about everything: Hot takes are all cold. There's not a single supposed hot take that actually makes people change their minds. It's all just people either voicing their not at all unique opinions or trying to be controversial for the sake of it. But everyone who thinks that their take is somehow special fails to realise that if they came up with that take, surely there's someone else on the planet that has the exact same take. And if 2 people can have that take, why not more?
Nah hot takes can change minds when both parties are using good faith practices but on the net and in irl people don't like to put aside their ego enough to accept a challenging pov. Remember when content creators got their hands on mvci and said the gameplay was really good and all of them were called shills? The general consensus was everything about the game sucked therefore no one could see it any other way.
@@Evergladez yeah, I mean. I'm not saying that there isn't an interesting discussion to be had about a hot take someone has. But most of the times, people try to use hot takes to make some bold new claim that supposedly no one has ever had before and that is gonna "open the eyes" of the people. It's not about a healthy discussion but about persuasion
"If you dont have anything good/worthwhile to say, its better to not just say anything." This is a random advice from a random person on the internet that is such a no brainer common sense thing, yet it sounds like a sage advice considering the environment we are in right now.
Yeah i would say almost nobody actively thinks to themselves "oh boy I sure do want a lot of notifications", but that is literally how those apps are designed to incentivize engagement
I think people post hot takes because it's cathartic. You've got that hot-ass take burning in your head and you've just gotta let it out. You're thinking: "damn, I have this take that I can't help sort of believing in, yet everyone else would think it's crazy if I said it," and there's a sort of tension there. Even if you get immediately dunked on by everyone and your argument is completely dismantled to the point where even you are instantly like, "okay, yeah that was dumb," you've at least released the tension, and can find satisfaction in that.
I think that, fundamentally, people LOVE hating things and being grumps, and it gives people catharsis to see other people agree with stuff they have an issue with too. It's why people enjoy drama so much, cause people actively have fun watching things go wrong. I think a lot of the deeply competitive players are too close to the games and find faults with everything. I found that during Tekken 7 season 3, it was complaints and negativity non-stop; mostly warranted, but frustrating cause it was non-stop. And personally? Besides Fahkumram and Leroy, I enjoyed the wackiness and insane damage of s3, and how it made Lars more viable. Granted I like season 4 way more cause it's more reasonable (and has a better lifebar!), but still. The negativity for season 3, even from some friends, was really annoying, cause even if I agreed with them, it was tiring hearing them moan about the same stuff over and over.
Sajam, the Healthy Gamer and LS for League. These people have genuinely helped change how I view competitive games and what I get from them, so I think your point here is totally valid. It's easy to use video games (competitive games especially) as a crutch for your negativity. As a tool to let out frustration and focus whatever latent stress or anger you're feeling into something concrete. I'm not stressed because I had a customer yell at me at work a few hours ago, it's because Sol exists. It makes the problems more tangible and in a way easier to deal with, because while you could make changes to your life/perspective that'll ease up stress at work, nothing is going to delete Sol... No matter how much some may want it XD It allows you to feel more okay with things being bad, because the being bad is unchangeable and complaining is easier than finding a solution or changing your mindset. Not calling anyone out here: this was ME around a year or so ago. Watching people who just, honestly engage with what's in front of them and try and see it for what it is, and THEN find some value in it... its incredibly helpful in keeping yourself mentally stable. It reminds me that maybe I should take some time to mentally detox from work, that maybe I can find the 'spark' in the games I play again and get that sweet feeling of making progress again. So thank you Sajam, you were one of the content creators who gave me back my spark.
Fighting games are dope. Anyone in the Akuma discord getting salty in channels gets instantly directed to the salt channel, which is always on a permanent mute. Don't bring anyone else down, but feel free to shout into the void if you need to. Chose happiness and fun times guys.
2 and a half years later and it's still true, surround yourself with negativity and that's all you'll see. It's especially interesting playing a game like Dear Days since I never played during the initial releases of these sets I'm having a great time with basically every deck I try and a lot of the people who actually played boil it down to "x is bdif everything else is trash"
Your take on why people become negative/toxic sounds a lot like relationship advice as well. Don’t let it get monotonous, focus on the positive. Longevity of any relationship takes effort.
Really, this is how I feel about the whole gaming sphere of the internet. So much negativity from people from people who don’t care what’s happening in the games they play outside of the worst aspects and their voices are loud.
I just want to get my friends in, but I can never keep them in. I can’t seem to balance trying to help them get good, giving them their own space to figure stuff out, and making sure they actually win to see their making progress lol. Probably am trying to hard to force it
If you exclude people just lashing out for the fun of it, and only look at the people who ACTUALLY believe their negative or hot take, usually they are complaining about something they don't like, but don't have the words or understanding to voice properly. Like if someone complains that "fighting games are too fast", they may actually mean that the character/background design doesn't put enough emphasis on where the characters are, or even they may just be lacking in matchup knowledge against the characters they played. While a lot of it can be annoying or silly to look at, the negativity is often camped in actual thoughts, even if the person voicing the complaint doesn't know what it actually is, just the end result of their own feelings. Shigeru Miyamoto of Mario/Zelda fame was particularly famous for being able to hone in on these things inside of Nintendo. His only problem was that he did this to such a degree that he would often ignore the voice of experienced players to get the voice of the common everyday Joemaru Shchmotetsu.
I remember being on twitter when the Super Baby 2 and Gogeta SS4 trailer came out and saw people i follow just trying so hard to shut down the hype saying "Ugh another goku" or acting like this is some absurd outrage and I just couldnt handle it. I had to unfollow cause this was something I genuinely enjoyed and was hyped for and I didnt want that needless negativity.
I have a theory about other reasons why someone would ask for those awful hottakes, besides gaining attention. The first one being to just feel "superior" in a sense? You don't even have to be aware, but it's highly likely when you ask for these opinions and see the responses absolutely destroy their views, the poster could go "ha! I felt the same way, I knew it, I was right". Again, just speculation, but I am sure most of us had that feeling at some point in their life and it shocks me every time because it's so vile. Another reason, although I don't suspect many people think that way, is to find others that have the same hottakes that you have, but that you don't want to share yourself. You just nod in silent agreement. Of course, some maybe just want to see interesting and different views or spark discussion, but Twitter is everything but a good platform for that, so even when someone has these good intentions, it just leads to written, toxic sludge that makes everything worse. Describes Twitter pretty well.
the part on runeterra hits the nail on the head for me. i got into destiny 2 recently and have been having a blast, but if you read the subreddit for it you'd think it's the worst game on planet earth. it was dampening my excitement about this new, fun thing I've been enjoying so I just unsubscribed lmfao
I feel the same way about League of Legends. I've been playing the game for 8 years and I still have a blast with the game. people always complain about League being a horrible experience, and sure sometimes you get bad teammates, but it's really not as bad as people make it out to be on social media.
I've played Destiny since 2015 and have loved and enjoyed each new expansion, and my transition from Xbox 360, to Xbox One, to PC. I'm enjoying the hell out of Beyond Light now. Yet every time you look at the subreddit, it's always *something* they've got beef with. Try to ignore them, they weren't happy then, they're not happy now. Just enjoy the game.
I like the cool tech in fighting games, much of my enjoyment comes from setting up interactions or pressure scenarios. Finding new combos is also pretty cool.
I think that people should surround themselves with positive people in order to stay invested in a hobby or game. Better yet just build a self perspective as opposed to allowing others perspectives to influence their own.
Hot take: Tuna sandwiches demolish anything else. Even soggy tuna sandwiches that have been inside a bagpack for hours are great. Wich is scientificaly impossible. A soggy sandwich can't be good. Yet the power of tuna defies reality. The only logical conclusion anyone can come to is that tuna sandwiches have plot manipulation.
hotter take: the tuna sandwich is 100% hard carried by mayonaise. a tuna sandwich with no mayo? dogshit tier a mayonaise sandwich with no tuna? SSS+ tier
When i respond to someone who is saying something easy to prove and is just sillyi usually just stop and delete the response. Mainly because they person is just gonna ignore it and follow te same behaviour in their response and then i'll just be in the same posistion again but more fustrated. In general one should care what a random person says online, or least just don't engage. They are usually giving you information about the person they are or at least appear to be online. Looking at some crazy reddit post or something and check someones other posts and see the same crazy shit is just a massive siren to just ignore this person. Lastly most social media is not a good place to find good conversation and find people willing to argue things instead of us ranting and shouting. Twitter is probably the worst, but they are all bad and generally get worse as the number using it grows.
everytime I talk myself into trying to have a positive mindset and learn from losses and I feel really good and get in the game with zangief and i become ultra negative again in about 2 matches.
Damn I think this is a mindset I definitely find myself falling into especially, I think because the character I’m most drawn towards playing is mid tier. He’s almost good enough for high tier but struggles a bit too much with certain mu’s. Unfortunately I’ve tried other characters and they don’t have quite as exciting a moveset for me.
Hot Take: May isn't broken or even top tier, most people just refuse to lab and call her cheap cause they find her annoying. I'm genuinely afraid she's gonna get nerfed when she doesn't deserve it.
Aris is pretty much anecdote to that. He pretty much don't wanna touch Tekken even if he gets a Hellcat for it, and any stoner who mentions or especially asks him to play it gets shot.
Hot take in general was like an alcohol but in opinion matter instead of literal drink. The more hot take you acceptably received means you're more likelihood to get yourselves drunk from it Yes, that is like the gaming boomers most favorite things to ever exist cause they love to make a lot of hot take for younger players about how the current gaming day as where we are now suck ass compared to their gaming day, and its obviously not even helping at all but to banefully brainwash the younger players to change how they look at video game these day
Coming into fighting games as a new player, I have to say it's kinda weird how people talk about how the fgc is so welcoming and wholesome and then you have like entire channels dedicated to making fun of scrubs? You got people like left and right talking how you suck for taking a zoner or how grapplers are too easy etc. It's the same toxic shit that every other game community has.
People in general need to understand how to not give shitty people with bad takes a platform to speak on. Its the reason our media system is so fucked and literal nazis and shit get to speak their mind to a wide audience.
I found sajam because I was casualy interested in FGs and wanted to get better and while watching his guides I caught his enthusiasm and love for the genre. So its very true that the energy you put out in content is the energy you get back from your audience
Cold Take: Frame data should be free in every competitive fighting game going forward.
I mena, they always were, just that you had to look them up in wikis instead of being in the game lol
@@Reydriel so you re saying they werent
@@IndividuumNot Well they were free, they were just not available in game
@@Reydriel no, someone had to find it and put it out there, like they measure by counting the frames.
Hard facts. MK9 would have had an even BIGGER impact if Somberness (and Somberness ALONE) didnt have to go character by character, move by move, frame by frame, JUST so people would have the frame data to figure out things.
Hot take: fighting games are fun and I enjoy playing them
can't believe this
Now *that* is a hot take
Your opinions are sorcery most fowl.
@@deadfr0g wow i didn't knew chickens practiced magic
bad take, you didn’t even explain why
>You have to use your eyeballs and this thing you got up here called the brain
Talk about yourself, I'm a grappler player.
It was around the 5th gallon of paint that my grappler lifestyle cost me my eyesight.
You gotta cut with paste every now and then for a balanced diet
t. Potemkin main
C'mon man don't be negative it takes at least 3 braincells to do a 360 input
Lmao
Hot take: The things that most people like are bad because i don't like them.
half right
I saw your avatar and thought I commented from the future somehow
very spicy
Hot take: regular oreos are one of the worst ones.
This not even a take, this just twitter
Hot Take: My favorite FGC content creator needs to play less boring characters. Pls.
This seems to be a good companion video on the "playing fighting games are more fun than arguing with people who don't" idea.
I have some pretty hot garbage takes, but at least I keep them to myself so no one else has to hear them
King mentality right here
Yay I can't tell you how many times I've thought strongly about something, and then 5 minutes later I realize that I'm a total dumbass.
Actual king shit
Let's hear em.
@@davis1228 can I get an example, because it sounds like the fgc would rather tradition over new. But that's not what I've seen
Sajam has the greatest superpower of all: perspective.
I legit found many people saying that thread was the most interesting and true take the FGC has seen in years.
I mean, it's just a compilation of scrubquotes and common misconceptions from uninformed people.
The only true take FGC has seen in years is that FG netcode are bad and need to be fixed.
With respect to negativity, and "losing the spark" as Sajam puts it, I believe you're more prone to negativity if you limit yourself to one fighter, or one game in general. The reason why is because limiting yourself to one game leaves less room for newness, and no room for escape. If you've been playing SFV since 2016... and you only play SFV, it's easy to wind yourself up in long standing grievances with no reprieve in sight. I think most of us have seen people tilt themselves on too much of one thing. I know I have myself.
Yeah, this is it. Also, the more you know about one subject, the more frustrated you get when things don't go according to plan because YOU KNOW how unlikely that was and how big the consequences might be.
So, let's assume I've been playing DBFZ for a couple of years and I know its mechanics very well. If, at some point, I get hit by a wild hitbox I had never seen before despite playing for hundreds of hours, I know that thing is very unlikely to happen. And, since I know that any hit in this game converts into a combo and possibly losing a character, I'm going to be very upset.
Of course that wild hitbox is perceived differently by a new player, they will think: "oh my god, that was so cool!" because they don't know how unlikely that was and everything is new and crazy in their eyes.
I feel Sajam is somewhat disconnected from this. I don't really follow his streams, but I assume he's more of a variety streamer who often switches games. It's easy to be this positive when you constantly try new games and everything is new to you
i mostly only play sfv. i think it has less to do with only playing one game and more to do with living in the negativity. sajam, tasty steve, yipes, brian f, ect... i'm pretty sure are rarely ever negative .
@@davis1228 not really in all honesty. The basics of "press button, do damage" is pretty universal
It was the reverse for me. After I stopped playing anything but Accent Core 5 years ago, my mindset has greatly improved. I think it all depends on you fundamentally liking the game and not playing it just because it’s popular.
@@biggestbungus1295 I would say it's easy to get into a different FG once you played one mechanically. However it can be hard to justify paying for a fighting game you're not sure to enjoy, especially if it's 60 bucks. I'm kinda in the latter case besides BB being my best fg.
“When you do that, you make Twitter, for a week, horrible.”
^implying Twitter isn’t ALWAYS horrible.
well its like the bad luck from breaking a mirror. you don't get a free pass because you break another mirror while already serving a bad luck sentence. at this point the shit has stacked to the point that we're due for a horrible twitter for the next 20,000 years or so
It's a varying level of horrible.
It wasn't...
@@captainmega6310 ?????
@@zerobasedgod9291 it really wasn't
That thread is like looking at an unsusual amount of flat earthers share their take on why and how the Earth is flat on an academic level. I'm not gonna go there and argue gravity is a thing, I just leave.
That thread is just a bait, dude plays fighting games
fighting games are categorically badass
you read that one thread right?
No lies detected.
I think a big source of negativity in gaming is that people get their egos wrapped up in their performance, so losing becomes painful and miserable to them because it makes them feel shitty about themselves. New players are often less negative because they don't expect to be good and they don't expect to win, so losing doesn't have the same sting to it.
Hot take: this is all a secret plot from Jiyuna to divide us
Finally someone preaching some truth
"Oh so you're a sajam fan now?" I just heard that in my head as I read this. Carry on..
“Fighting games are categorically bad because I suck and they stress me out. Also if you like Smash you’re a pedo.” I couldn’t even fathom
Ouch
at least it´s half correct
Makes sense tho
Keep it down weebs
"Don't do it to yourself," should be the title for next year.
That was 2020s title for non-mask wearers.
I have an actual playlist of youtube videos (only three videos, but still) to watch when this exact thing happens. When I start to get disillusioned, when the spark of fighting games start to fade, I go back and watch those videos to get hyped up about being in this community, about how far this community has come, and how far I have to go in this community. The biggest of many things that keeps me from losing faith is the love for the game that will always shine through the darkness of the negativity.
“IT’S MAHVEL BABY” is my creed.
“ULTRAAA COMBOO” is in my veins.
You can replace 'FGC' and 'The World' and this video still works out.
I've taken the advice you shared of "spend more time playing fighting games and less time complaining about fighting games" to heart, and it's made me a happier fighting game player.
Not a better one in the slightest. I can't get out of Bronze with Sagat, and I have no idea how I should be moving in Power Rangers, but I'm content more often than not.
You don't move in Power Rangers, you choose Pink Time Force Ranger and spam her magic missile and let the opponent move around you, lmao.
@@Fatboyftw32 That's some 4d Chess right there.
@@P0rk_Sinigang Jokes aside, fighting against someone who knows how to use her assist right is a goddamn nightmare, it's such a good assist, absolutely impossible to get in I feel.
I feel like if I didn’t like fighting games, I would just do other things and act like they don’t exist.
Once I deleted Twitter my desire to express hot takes instantly vanished.
hot take: sajam has still not played tekken
Okay I chuckled take your stupid like and go.
where do I vote for some tekken content? :)
It's wild how much happier you can be when you start unfollowing and blocking negative sheep.
Twitter is so annoying lol. Deleted my account last year and I'm so thankful I did every time I see garbage like this
Trust me. It's the best thing a person can do for themselves
You're stronger than most of us, including me
Same here. No regrets.
yup
@@brunop.8745 You'll get out one day comrade, I believe in you
Hot take: I spend a lot more time watching listing to others talk about and reading about fighting games then I actually play fighting games
"I notice that when people say "Brutally Honest", they usually just mean Brutal..." - XKCD
I feel the same way and you can apply these to any other kind of community/medium. I mean sure maybe you can start a good discussion with a take or two, but 99% of the time I feel like people make “hot takes” just to see who can make the most outrageous takes and how others will react.
Holy *shit.* As someone who's been playing fighting games for something like 30 years now, that introductory donate message was one S-tier flaming trashfire of a hot take.
@@dgas5904 That donation was making fun and reference to a certain infamous take on Twitter
Deleting Twitter was the best decision I ever made. It let me enjoy fighting games (and life in general) a lot more.
@Vegito It's the best. Really
Hot take: Sajam killed granblue.
He was just an innocent bystander smoking a fat cig while standing right next to the grand blue gas tanks.
Every white dude is Sajam and there a lot of white dudes in the FGC so statistically if *somebody* killed Granblue, most likely it was Sajam.
If educating people about rollback and call out shitty netcode kills a game, the game was not very worthy of attention anyway.
Hotter take, GBVS and DBFZ are better off without bandwagoners who think they can hide their stolen wifi potato pc with rollback.
NRS with WB budget and 11M copies sold took 2 years to implement rollback into MKX, anyone who demands it RIGHT FUCKING NOW!1!1 in a 9 month old Japanese game is mentally deficient and I don't wanna play that kinda people.
@@Stroggoii if fucking fight of animals can have rollback netcode your Triple A studio can make a Dragon Ball game with good netcode. Also, play wired.
If I had to say anything about fighting games, it's a great spectator when you're playing it yourself. Especially when you've dipped your toes into it, trying out a combo that seems near impossible to do, and then you see it happen during a tournament match... that's just awesome!
I think you're discussion about who you follow transcends the FGC. We still have people who call Geoff Keighly a shill, when really he seems to just love video games. There's so much negativity coming from influencers and journalists that poison people's brains and it's just bad. I've heard people called childish for showing a pure joy when playing a game, not even at reactions but when playing and enjoying a game. Imagine being called childish for truly enjoying a game like Resident Evil 2?
Here's the only single true take about everything:
Hot takes are all cold. There's not a single supposed hot take that actually makes people change their minds. It's all just people either voicing their not at all unique opinions or trying to be controversial for the sake of it. But everyone who thinks that their take is somehow special fails to realise that if they came up with that take, surely there's someone else on the planet that has the exact same take. And if 2 people can have that take, why not more?
Case in point, I've heard this exact sentiment twice already.
@@r15835 hopefully it is so. I'd hate to be the only one who feels this way because then I'd have shot myself in the foot.
Rest assured, your take is also cold, but it's a sensible one.
Nah hot takes can change minds when both parties are using good faith practices but on the net and in irl people don't like to put aside their ego enough to accept a challenging pov. Remember when content creators got their hands on mvci and said the gameplay was really good and all of them were called shills? The general consensus was everything about the game sucked therefore no one could see it any other way.
@@Evergladez yeah, I mean. I'm not saying that there isn't an interesting discussion to be had about a hot take someone has. But most of the times, people try to use hot takes to make some bold new claim that supposedly no one has ever had before and that is gonna "open the eyes" of the people. It's not about a healthy discussion but about persuasion
"If you dont have anything good/worthwhile to say, its better to not just say anything."
This is a random advice from a random person on the internet that is such a no brainer common sense thing, yet it sounds like a sage advice considering the environment we are in right now.
Yeah i would say almost nobody actively thinks to themselves "oh boy I sure do want a lot of notifications", but that is literally how those apps are designed to incentivize engagement
I think people post hot takes because it's cathartic. You've got that hot-ass take burning in your head and you've just gotta let it out. You're thinking: "damn, I have this take that I can't help sort of believing in, yet everyone else would think it's crazy if I said it," and there's a sort of tension there. Even if you get immediately dunked on by everyone and your argument is completely dismantled to the point where even you are instantly like, "okay, yeah that was dumb," you've at least released the tension, and can find satisfaction in that.
I think a big part of Sajam’s community being positive and chill has a lot to do with the way he is and has cultivated it.
Now I'm morbidly curious about what does "categorically bad" even mean
That every fighting game is bad?
categorically is just for emphasis. same as really or absolutely
Basically that they are bad BECAUSE they are fighting games
@@300PIVOTMASTER I’m shocked you didn’t say “literally.”
1:26 "for a week and a half you gotta read those"
Hot take: you don't.
I think that, fundamentally, people LOVE hating things and being grumps, and it gives people catharsis to see other people agree with stuff they have an issue with too. It's why people enjoy drama so much, cause people actively have fun watching things go wrong. I think a lot of the deeply competitive players are too close to the games and find faults with everything. I found that during Tekken 7 season 3, it was complaints and negativity non-stop; mostly warranted, but frustrating cause it was non-stop. And personally? Besides Fahkumram and Leroy, I enjoyed the wackiness and insane damage of s3, and how it made Lars more viable. Granted I like season 4 way more cause it's more reasonable (and has a better lifebar!), but still. The negativity for season 3, even from some friends, was really annoying, cause even if I agreed with them, it was tiring hearing them moan about the same stuff over and over.
Hot take: I should have waited longer to drink my coffee
I gotta get better at saying "why am o so fuckint grumpy"
Amen to that
Most people like being negative, I hate that
Sajam, the Healthy Gamer and LS for League. These people have genuinely helped change how I view competitive games and what I get from them, so I think your point here is totally valid.
It's easy to use video games (competitive games especially) as a crutch for your negativity. As a tool to let out frustration and focus whatever latent stress or anger you're feeling into something concrete.
I'm not stressed because I had a customer yell at me at work a few hours ago, it's because Sol exists. It makes the problems more tangible and in a way easier to deal with, because while you could make changes to your life/perspective that'll ease up stress at work, nothing is going to delete Sol... No matter how much some may want it XD
It allows you to feel more okay with things being bad, because the being bad is unchangeable and complaining is easier than finding a solution or changing your mindset. Not calling anyone out here: this was ME around a year or so ago.
Watching people who just, honestly engage with what's in front of them and try and see it for what it is, and THEN find some value in it... its incredibly helpful in keeping yourself mentally stable.
It reminds me that maybe I should take some time to mentally detox from work, that maybe I can find the 'spark' in the games I play again and get that sweet feeling of making progress again.
So thank you Sajam, you were one of the content creators who gave me back my spark.
Fighting games are dope.
Anyone in the Akuma discord getting salty in channels gets instantly directed to the salt channel, which is always on a permanent mute. Don't bring anyone else down, but feel free to shout into the void if you need to.
Chose happiness and fun times guys.
2 and a half years later and it's still true, surround yourself with negativity and that's all you'll see. It's especially interesting playing a game like Dear Days since I never played during the initial releases of these sets I'm having a great time with basically every deck I try and a lot of the people who actually played boil it down to "x is bdif everything else is trash"
Your take on why people become negative/toxic sounds a lot like relationship advice as well. Don’t let it get monotonous, focus on the positive. Longevity of any relationship takes effort.
Hot take: The quality of a fighting game is directly correlated with the quantity of female characters with bare feet in the roster.
Exactly. Dudes too.
FINALLY.
An intellectual 👏
Exactly, if the next SF doesn’t have Juri it is automatically trash. Lol
Really, this is how I feel about the whole gaming sphere of the internet. So much negativity from people from people who don’t care what’s happening in the games they play outside of the worst aspects and their voices are loud.
I love seeing EZscape exposing these hot takes in the FGC
It's part of Majas' culture to be accepting and loving especially in the eyes of the lord our god
I just want to get my friends in, but I can never keep them in. I can’t seem to balance trying to help them get good, giving them their own space to figure stuff out, and making sure they actually win to see their making progress lol. Probably am trying to hard to force it
Fighting games were a mistake and so was I
If you exclude people just lashing out for the fun of it, and only look at the people who ACTUALLY believe their negative or hot take, usually they are complaining about something they don't like, but don't have the words or understanding to voice properly. Like if someone complains that "fighting games are too fast", they may actually mean that the character/background design doesn't put enough emphasis on where the characters are, or even they may just be lacking in matchup knowledge against the characters they played. While a lot of it can be annoying or silly to look at, the negativity is often camped in actual thoughts, even if the person voicing the complaint doesn't know what it actually is, just the end result of their own feelings.
Shigeru Miyamoto of Mario/Zelda fame was particularly famous for being able to hone in on these things inside of Nintendo. His only problem was that he did this to such a degree that he would often ignore the voice of experienced players to get the voice of the common everyday Joemaru Shchmotetsu.
I remember being on twitter when the Super Baby 2 and Gogeta SS4 trailer came out and saw people i follow just trying so hard to shut down the hype saying "Ugh another goku" or acting like this is some absurd outrage and I just couldnt handle it. I had to unfollow cause this was something I genuinely enjoyed and was hyped for and I didnt want that needless negativity.
40 sec in and I Uppercutted that like button. Hot takes are nothing but mindless self indulgence.
I have a theory about other reasons why someone would ask for those awful hottakes, besides gaining attention. The first one being to just feel "superior" in a sense? You don't even have to be aware, but it's highly likely when you ask for these opinions and see the responses absolutely destroy their views, the poster could go "ha! I felt the same way, I knew it, I was right". Again, just speculation, but I am sure most of us had that feeling at some point in their life and it shocks me every time because it's so vile.
Another reason, although I don't suspect many people think that way, is to find others that have the same hottakes that you have, but that you don't want to share yourself. You just nod in silent agreement.
Of course, some maybe just want to see interesting and different views or spark discussion, but Twitter is everything but a good platform for that, so even when someone has these good intentions, it just leads to written, toxic sludge that makes everything worse. Describes Twitter pretty well.
the part on runeterra hits the nail on the head for me. i got into destiny 2 recently and have been having a blast, but if you read the subreddit for it you'd think it's the worst game on planet earth. it was dampening my excitement about this new, fun thing I've been enjoying so I just unsubscribed lmfao
I feel the same way about League of Legends. I've been playing the game for 8 years and I still have a blast with the game. people always complain about League being a horrible experience, and sure sometimes you get bad teammates, but it's really not as bad as people make it out to be on social media.
I've played Destiny since 2015 and have loved and enjoyed each new expansion, and my transition from Xbox 360, to Xbox One, to PC. I'm enjoying the hell out of Beyond Light now. Yet every time you look at the subreddit, it's always *something* they've got beef with. Try to ignore them, they weren't happy then, they're not happy now. Just enjoy the game.
I like the cool tech in fighting games, much of my enjoyment comes from setting up interactions or pressure scenarios. Finding new combos is also pretty cool.
Sajam makes categorically great videos
I think that people should surround themselves with positive people in order to stay invested in a hobby or game. Better yet just build a self perspective as opposed to allowing others perspectives to influence their own.
Sajam! Love the MH shirt! Keep up the good work sir
Hot take: Tuna sandwiches demolish anything else. Even soggy tuna sandwiches that have been inside a bagpack for hours are great. Wich is scientificaly impossible. A soggy sandwich can't be good. Yet the power of tuna defies reality. The only logical conclusion anyone can come to is that tuna sandwiches have plot manipulation.
hotter take: the tuna sandwich is 100% hard carried by mayonaise.
a tuna sandwich with no mayo? dogshit tier
a mayonaise sandwich with no tuna? SSS+ tier
@@vegaspony I mean, not sure what you'd expect from (what is most likely) canned tuna lol
*God has left the chat*
I look forward to the article that is apparently going to be written by them and is going to be even longer than that 50-something tweet chain.
The FGC is pretty chill, way less salty than MMO players
I need to be more positive. Thank you.
streamers weekly session of talking about how wholesome him and his discord are
I'm so cringe. I'm always super toxic whenever I play anything. I just gotta say 'why am I so grumpy?'
Well... If I beat someone 20 times in a row in a 1v1 I'm for sure not going to be impressed if the guy is "grumpy" or negative afterwards.
Hot take: all fighting games are rhythm games
When i respond to someone who is saying something easy to prove and is just sillyi usually just stop and delete the response. Mainly because they person is just gonna ignore it and follow te same behaviour in their response and then i'll just be in the same posistion again but more fustrated.
In general one should care what a random person says online, or least just don't engage. They are usually giving you information about the person they are or at least appear to be online. Looking at some crazy reddit post or something and check someones other posts and see the same crazy shit is just a massive siren to just ignore this person.
Lastly most social media is not a good place to find good conversation and find people willing to argue things instead of us ranting and shouting. Twitter is probably the worst, but they are all bad and generally get worse as the number using it grows.
Hot take: Sajam and Jiyuna's beef is the best beef of 2020
Everyone wants to be known for something.
Twitter does things to your brain. Please choose love and not twitter.
I am guilty of being to pessimistic.
Hot take: My smartphone is burning
Every day I hear Sajam and Obama trash Twitter I'm drawn closer to god's light.
everytime I talk myself into trying to have a positive mindset and learn from losses and I feel really good and get in the game with zangief and i become ultra negative again in about 2 matches.
Damn I think this is a mindset I definitely find myself falling into especially, I think because the character I’m most drawn towards playing is mid tier. He’s almost good enough for high tier but struggles a bit too much with certain mu’s. Unfortunately I’ve tried other characters and they don’t have quite as exciting a moveset for me.
man i love Sajam's comment section y'all are so funny 😂
Hot Take: May isn't broken or even top tier, most people just refuse to lab and call her cheap cause they find her annoying. I'm genuinely afraid she's gonna get nerfed when she doesn't deserve it.
Where do I find the video about the reddit Games thread?
Don't mind me, just here to check if anyone is complaining that Sajam is complaining about people complaining...
Aris is pretty much anecdote to that. He pretty much don't wanna touch Tekken even if he gets a Hellcat for it, and any stoner who mentions or especially asks him to play it gets shot.
Hot take: Fighting games are games and they have fights in em
Hot take: Sajam has the best hair in the fgc
Kitana Prime
That's not even a take, that's just a fact.
I'm 45 seconds in and I vibe so much with this
Hot take in general was like an alcohol but in opinion matter instead of literal drink. The more hot take you acceptably received means you're more likelihood to get yourselves drunk from it
Yes, that is like the gaming boomers most favorite things to ever exist cause they love to make a lot of hot take for younger players about how the current gaming day as where we are now suck ass compared to their gaming day, and its obviously not even helping at all but to banefully brainwash the younger players to change how they look at video game these day
I thought you also needed shoes to sign up for twitter, please confirm.
Segue's being edited out now? :'(
Coming into fighting games as a new player, I have to say it's kinda weird how people talk about how the fgc is so welcoming and wholesome and then you have like entire channels dedicated to making fun of scrubs? You got people like left and right talking how you suck for taking a zoner or how grapplers are too easy etc. It's the same toxic shit that every other game community has.
People in general need to understand how to not give shitty people with bad takes a platform to speak on. Its the reason our media system is so fucked and literal nazis and shit get to speak their mind to a wide audience.
Hot take: Twitter is trash and you should avoid it unless you want fame or something like that lol
Fighting games bad, because I'm bad and too dumb to learn.
Hot take: At fighting games you are categorically bad.
Great points! Great advice!
I found sajam because I was casualy interested in FGs and wanted to get better and while watching his guides I caught his enthusiasm and love for the genre. So its very true that the energy you put out in content is the energy you get back from your audience
Hot take: Sajam wont get past the snow area in jump king
Hot take: jumping into a game as old as and with as many online killers as +R isn't any harder than jumping into say Tekken or DBZ