"The Washouts" Review with Josh and Aramau
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
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I honestly thought that they did well with Lightning Dust’s character, even in the end of the episode. She’s already shown that she has little patience when it comes to others holding her back, and will not hesitate to jeopardize their safety in order to accomplish her goal. I felt that her being straight up negligent with Scootaloo is something that was in line with her character as she had the mindset of “forget safety, the show must go on”.
Hearing Scootaloo say that she can't fly was just sad.
I just froze in realization when I heard her say that.
Yeah, but even when a moment makes you sad in a series, it is at least nice that it was an intentionally sad/emotional moment. Shows you got invested in the characters.
@@wolfhowl983
Will she ever fly?
My guess is probably at a big emotional moment in the future, yes. However, it is hard to say. They might keep it and just let her be awesome in other ways.
Maybe. Preferably when Dash’s life is on the line.
The washout Shortfuse was one of the other recruits in the Top Bolt episode. And Spitfire's cameo was a riff on a SNL skit with Chris Farley called "Van down by the river"
I gotta say once I realized what they were paradying with Spitfire it became the funniest part of the episode
I interpreted the ending a bit differently from you guys.
I think that Lightning Dust made Scootaloo do the stunt not out of malice, but because she doesn't consider that other ponies have limits and can't go the extremes that she can.
Also furthers by belief that Lighting is an outright sociopath.
it's exactly the way she was in Wonderbolt's Academy, she never ever takes blame for something when it's her fault.
@@RedfurredPikachu Which is why I don't think her forcing Scootaloo to do the stunt brought the episode down. And also why Lightning Dust is the perfect foil to Rainbow Dash.
Both are reckless thrillseekers, but the former never learns to pullback or take blame for her personal failings. The latter, on the other hand, learns to put her ego aside, and matures.
*Lightning Dust:* "Foal endangerment"? She wasn't even hurt.
*Officer:* No thanks to you. If she had died, the charge would be felony eeslaughter*. Now listen. You have the right to remain silent during questioning...
* "Ee" from Old English "eoh", "horse".
In all seriousness, this episode blew me away. I did not expect Lightning Dust to come back, Spitfire chewing the scenery, nor did i expect Nick to throw all the punches with Scootaloo's reason as to why she looked up to her and ended up joining the Washouts. Hell both her and Rainbow had legitimately good reasons, even if the latter went the wrong way about it. Still, if anything i feel the surrogate sister bond ended up stronger after this episode because of how understanding they were of another in the end. Though if i had one nitpick is that Scootaloo must have terrible memory to not remember who Lightning Dust is especially since she talked about her to Dash's parents (who made a cameo). But that's about it, writing wise it's still a solid outing and it has become my favorite episode of Season 8 so far.
The next couple of episodes are pretty damn good too.
Rainbow Dash trying to be the voice of reason? Wow, her character really has developed.
I liked Spitfire in that episode. That's all I'm saying...
I thought her speech was hilarious, especially when her voice went up a few octaves.
To this day I still remember “A FULL BODY WING AND HOOF CAST DRINKING THOUGH A STRAW!”
I was going to watch this episode but sadly i'm in a full body wing and hoof cast, drinking through a straw.
Ha
The problem with Spitfire's drill sergeant routine, Josh, is that you experienced the real thing. The script writers and voice actors almost certainly haven't, so they just have stories and comic exaggerations to go on. Plus, well, it's a kid's show, so having her *really* act like a drill sergeant would probably scar the target audience for *life.* I also think the similarity to those heavy-handed PSAs ("this is your brain on drugs" my brain is an egg sunny side up?) is intentional.
I do like your suggestions, though.
But doesn't the ending follow the lack of safety concerns they showed from the start? Aside from the disclaimer, the Washouts themselves expressed complete disdain for safety procedures. So to me it seems to be completely in character.
Yeah I think Josh is being too harsh here. Spitfire's been great lately, not the malicious jerk she was in the earlier seasons.
@RedfurredPikachu - At least this time it's much more understated and understandable. He's encountered the real thing. After that, the kid-show variant is just going to look silly.
Did not know that. Also don't know what that is.
The tiny red dude with the yellow hair has apeared before in the season six episode "Top Bolt"
The entire third act of this episode I was shouting, "Where are her PARENTS?!?!?" Or her aunts, or whoever "looks after" her.
This kitty cat needs to be in more DrWolf reviews.
Who's cat is it?
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Doc's cat.
I didn't know he had a cat. Finn the Pony tried to give him one back in 2016. Didn't work out so well.
He also mentioned it in his first vlog.
Wait a second. I thought that Aramau went back to California, and Josh back to Texas, after Crystal Mountain Pony Con. What brought the three of them back to Utah again?
That's the last we will see of Lightning Dust. Anytime they use a recurring antagonist they always have one or two seasons pass before they use them again. (Trixie, Iron Will, Flim and Flam, Lightning Dust now.) And since Season 9 is the last one...
Even with full on villians, they only did that once.
Nothing saying they won't still see her again, or that season 9 is the last season
I don't know how contrary-to-general-opinion this is, but this is honestly one of my favorite episodes of the season. Aside from the very anticipated return of Lighting Dust, I just love Rainbow and Scootaloo´s relationship, which is both funny, adorable and hearthwarming. Though the comedy didn´t always land, it did get a few good laughs. Certainly ne of the few episodes this season I wanted to rewatch as soon as I finished.
You're certainly not alone. Most people either liked it or loved it.
1. Her name is “Rolling Thunder”.
2. Short Fuse was one of the trainees in ‘Top Bolt’.
3. Scootaloo didn’t recognize Lightning Dust after mentioning about her in her report in ‘Parental Glidence’.
And 4...You forgot the funny bit Applejack made about Apple Bloom and bananas.
It made me think Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle were eating bananas somewhere off screen so AJ doesn't see them.
Where are Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle, they’re the only ones who can talk reason with her?
Short Fuse actually appeared in an earlier episode as a background pony, but this was hi first time in the foreground. Also, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING CANON JOSH!
thats spitfire royal voice
1:01 his inner lizard is showing
You have a kitty?
Dawwww, it's so adorable!
This gives me another reason to ship twilight and rainbow dash. I love seeing Rainbow and Scooterloo sister bond being tested.
Without question, my favorite episode of Season 8, and one of my favorite episodes of the entire show. The humor is spot on (as is the case with most Nick Confalone episodes) but the level of nuance, heart, and subtlety in the moral is nothing short of terrific.
This episode is so good, it actually replaced "Parental Glideance" as my favorite Rainbow Dash/Scootaloo episode.
Isn’t parental glideance the one with the fucked up lesson
@@andrewkim9848 No, it's not. It just didn't work for you.
@@andrewkim9848 The lesson in "One Bad Apple".
@@justinriley I didn't enjoy Parental Glideance either but at least we can agree on One Bad Apple! That is personally my least favorite episode of the whole show simply for how badly it butchers the lesson. With how bad the real life situation regarding bullying is, that is one that we CAN'T afford to have butchered.
Also, I find it odd that that the show butchers lessons on bullying but pulls of messages about death and disability beautifully. Makes me wonder what went wrong in the production of One Bad Apple.
@@sunshineespeon517 I can partially understand that, it's a somewhat divisive episode.
But with One Bad Apple, it's especially mind boggling, because it's written by the usually reliable Cindy Morrow, who wrote Sisterhooves Social and Tanks For The Memories.
It was fun listening to your thoughts and commentary. I'm especially curious about this episode now that I know about this "Short Fuse" character. Thanks for sharing this with us! ^_^
This a great Rainbow and Scootaloo episode.
I didn't think Lightning dust was 'out of character' at the end, but there could have been a learning moment, or Rainbow could save her from the rope (conveniently placed) and she could refuse to see it and storm off. I don't know. I wasn't in the writers room.
Why would she save the bitch, she almost got Rainbow's surrogate's sister killed.
@@RedfurredPikachu Plus, Lightning's team was already after her, and unlike Scoots, Lightning Dust CAN fly and likely manage to get out of it alive. MAYBE ending up drinking with a straw...
Glad you picked up on your prediction coming true Doc. I remember when you posted that old video and I have enjoyed being subscribed to you all this time.
Glad to hear that you've stuck by all this time :)
This episode marks Lightning Dust's third appearance in the show since her cameo as a filly in Rainbow Dash's Flashback in Parental Glidence.
Which doesn't actually count because that flashback made no sense. I think it's more likely Rainbow filled in the other ponies with ponies she knows in the present day.
Because you would think she would remember being in the same class as Spitfire, Lightning Dust, Muffins, Soaring, and Fleetfoot.
Someone explained to me that "full body wing and hoof cast drinking from a straw." is a parody of "living in a van down by the river." skit from SNL.
A few observations:
Yona and Ocellus were in the crowd as well, but not with the others. They were in one of the other bleachers.
Where were Scootaloo's guardians?
I'm with Ari on both Spitfire in this episode, and Rainbow generally. Spitfire was just cringy in this one. Apparently it was a SNL parody. And Rainbow is my least favorite of the Mane Six. She's better used in fanfics, but in the show her flaws spend way more time on-screen than her virtues.
The scene where Scootaloo cries out "I can't fly!" was amazing and sad.
Twilight and Rainbow were well handled in this episode.
The last thing, the stunt with Scootaloo doesn't really work. It's only dangerous because she can't fly, but the audience doesn't know that, they would look at Scootaloo, see a pegasus and not see the point.
That cat is adorable~
I'm glad Lightning Dust is back
And now say goodbye to her because that's the last we will see of her.
Say what you want about RD, but she's a good sister figure for Scootaloo.
And the thing is, Lauren Faust was against the idea because she didn't think they'd have a good relationship
@@Galimeer5 Really? You learn something new every day I guess.
I'm glad we got to see Lightning Dust again. And I HATE how Spitfire talked. Super annoying.
Awe! The kitty cat doesn't want to move; that's so cute! Also I really enjoyed this episode. I think it's something that Rainbow and Scootaloo really needed in their lives. With Scootaloo looking up to Rainbow so much and Rainbow's ego this was really needed. Rainbow's attitude was a little much in this, but it was still a really good needing for the two of them bonding.
Aramau's twitter: I don't like Ariel.
Me: Oh my gosh! Me too. I guess I'm not weird after all.
Aramau in this video: She's my least favorite Mane 6.
Me: 😍😍😍 Yay! I'm normal. I am definitely normal.
When you trick your non Brony friend into watching an mlp review.
Me:wanna watch a cat video
Friend: sure
First second of the video has a cat..........Then a discussion of Mlp
Me:enjoying the video
Friend: I Hate You, but I’ll watch the rest to see if the cat comes back.
👌👌👌
You are my hero!
Yes quite true
True but Rainbow did say Lightning Dust has "lack of brains". I really love the little quote Applejack has. I personally love this episode. I still say that "A Matter of Principals" is still my favorite this season, but this episode is also really good too. I think the writers are right not have have Lightning Dust reformed. Now I wonder when the writers will bring back Wind Rider too. Nice you got Josh and Aramau to review with you too! ^^
Its like Nick Confalone saw "Somepony to Watch Over Me" and thought, "I can do that, but do it right."
I was shocked that Scootaloo flying theory was solved by the pent up frustration after all this time
I expected lightning dust to show up for a long long time. I just gave in season seven. When the episode aired I was rather curious if this was going to be for Rainbow Dash learning that not everything is about her and that everyone gets to decide what they like the most. I just never expected that this would also be a lesson for scootalo to learn. You know after seeing the leader I sort of knew that lightning dust was coming back because of the wings and the tail flapping in the wind, i’m glad that they’re dealing with a few loose ends with some of the not so great characters. But what I really wish before the Series ends is FOR SCOOTALO TO FLY ALREADY!!!! I MEANT COME ON!!! I have to admit I never expected short fuse to be compared with you fire-brand, it’s seriously never came to me until you brought up.
All I got from Spitfire was "Living in a van, down by the river!"
Again why are people treating Lightning dust as if she was handled any differently than in Wonderbolt's academy. She was an unapologetic jerk the whole episode there too, I knew she was full of shit when she brought up the "Safety" during the first show.
3:00 Rainbow's my least favorite of the mane 6 too. She just doesn't appeal to me as the rest of the girls but yeah she's got some good episodes (Tanks for the Memories and Wonderbolts Academy)
Loved this episode but I wish we had gotten a teeny more with Lightning Dust's partners like one of them standing up to her saying "yeah we do crazy stunts but we ALWAYS practice them first!"
Armau does a good Rainbow Dash impression.
yea
You'll have plenty of time to be a washout WHEN YOUR LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
awww doctor wolf has a sweet little kitty cat aww cute kitty cat
Dang..... Aramau has a decent Rainbow! If she dosen't already should defiantly consider VO work for fan projects involving Dash.
aww cute kitty at the beginning and is it strange I thought josh actually cameo then are the creators of mlp putting there fans oc in now
Aww, cute kitty!!
Also, don't worry, Ari. Dash is my least favorite of the Mane 6, too. You won't get any hate from me.
Coincidence? I think NOT! A character like Firebrand in My Little Pony.
It's only a Firebrand nod if that pony is seen hanging out with a Wolf and a Hippogryph.
I was really hoping for a Gilda-style redemption for Lightning Dust. Not changing her character majorly, but seeing the error of her ways in her previous appearance. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't, but considering her character, this actually kinda fit more. Cause she just doesn't care about the safety of others. Like in Wonderbolts Academy when Rainbow hurt her wing during Capture The Flag, Lightning Dust didn't notice or care. She was just in it for the rush.
Why? I think Lightning Dust is much more interesting as a foil to Rainbow Dash than a friend. Besides, we already saw Gilda have a change of heart.
Some people, like Lightning Dust, don't have the capacity to look inward and take responsibility for their failures.
Yeah, that's true. I suppose it comes from a desire to see characters or people like her learn their lesson and change for the better.
Uh....Josh I hate brake it up to you but........Short Fuse do have a Fire cutie. I should know I just researched it.
Was it in Top Bolt?
Yes, yes it was.
Scootaloo joining the washouts was like the fall of sunset shimmer, that teenage, rebellious "I'm angry at mom" phase
This is why I HATE PSA's so much! They're heavy handed, and don't respect the audience. That's why I rebel against them, but that doesn't mean I want to do drugs, or skateboard off a cliff. I just want to avoid this crap as much as possible because I already deal with enough crap as it is. Otherwise, great episode.
15:20 on that note, her cutie mark (the inner part) has a wing on it. She uses her wings to do all the stuff on her scooter.
This episode, completely magnified a deeper bond between Rainbow and Scootaloo, that only family would have. Which then reinforced my long-shot headcanon that Scootaloo is Rainbow Dash's daughter, who for currently unknown reasons, was sent back in time as a foal.
Personally I didn't really like most of the episode. Except for the ending with Scootaloo blowing up at Rainbow Dash and Dash starting the fanclub.
Always nice to hear you guys thoughts on it. ^-^
That's a damn shame, it's my personal favorite episode. Oh well, you can't please everyone...
That anxiety is really creeping up on Josh. Poor guy. :( He was fidgeting and looking every which direction throughout the whole video. I know the feeling. I hope he can find his confidence and peace of mind someday soon. :)
A wild Spitfire appeared!
She uses intimidation!
*It's not very effective...*
who thinks cozy glow will come back in season 9
Who wants to not spoil content!
Dude, please don't spoil the season.
NO SPOILERS!!!
I think so since how the season final ended being in Tartarus with Tirek. Also have you notice these things like Chrysalis returning with evil plan only to have it backfire in her face and now planning a new one and now Lightning dust returning to rub something in Rainbow's face only to backfire and now declaring enemies. With all these hints I'm thinking that Cozy and Tirek will escape from Tartaus and forming a villain alliance with both the major and minor villains of the series like Chrysalis, Pony of shaows, Suri Polomare, Wind Rider, Svengallop, Gladmane, Diamond Dogs, Dr. Caballeron, Ahuizotl, Garble, and The Sirens. I'm including Flim and Flam since they are semi- good terms with Applejack and Fluttershy since they helped them and Storm king and King Sombra are the only villains in the series to kick the bucket. But if they decide to some how to bring them back that will be epic.
Goddammit! Keep the spoilers out of this!
video starts . . . . Kitty! XD my attention is lost but now I know they have a cat. OwO
8:40 I don't think they were going for the intimidation factor, necessarily. It was more comedic than anything. This Spitfire moment is based off a Saturday Night Live skit called "Living in a Van by the River".
Cute cat
Mysterion: "I. CAN'T. DIE! Is that what you want me to say?!"
Short Fuse is a height-challenged, orange pegasus. Firebrand is a properly-proportioned, red unicorn. How can Aramau think they're the same?
I remember that video!!! 😆
I feel so old!!! 😂
I like Firebrand's idea. But what if there was a twist? What if Chrysalis was disguised as Lightning dust to endanger Scootaloo. And then at the end, after the Mane 6 and Scootaloo left, Lightning Dust comes back and says "Woah! What's I miss? By the way, did Scootaloo do her trick yet?"
i just went looking for Short Fuse and you can see him in the wonderbolts tryout episode... his cutie make is fire!!
Fake laughing hiding real pain 😂😂
Opportunity missed. I wanted to see the Military Bronies react to it., But Josh is just as good.
Lmao at the intro also nice review guys ^^
I love how you play off of Josh.
I prefer when Josh is being *EXTREME* for your calm personality to contrast.
This episode reminded my of one from Talespin.
i still feel bad for rainbow dash
Cats....... Cats don't care what you want.
how ironic that guy with a wolf oc has a pet cat.
@20:01 I'm looking at you, Parental Glideance...
I *loved* Parental Glideance, so shut up.
Give Josh a tomato sandwich.
Hey look firebrand is cannon. XD
Gonna be honest, I kinda disagreed on the Spitfire part. I thought it was funny.
That Sami Zayn shirt... I need that shirt, that's so InZane.
For me, this was "No Second Prances" done right. I mean, even though Rainbow Dash was clearly overstepping bounds, the episode takes the time to make it clear that she isn't the bad guy in this. Also, my sister once told me that you know you're slowly turning into your parents when you sympathize with the "grown up" more than you do the kid, and she was right.
I thought Spitfire's schtick was wonderful. I get it. She's not intimidating enough to pull it off, but her lines sound like something straight out of a salty seasoned veteran, especially when she starts mocking Scootaloo for thinking that she's invincible. I've noticed that a lot of older people, especially the salty ones, love going out of their way to shatter those kinds of illusions in younger people.
Amaru. For being your least favorite mane 6 you do a really good impression of RD. Not a shabby Scootaloo either.
I still haven't seen the full episode yet. But from your description, it sounds like the MLP equivalent of an ABC After School Special.
It's executed much better than you think. Trust me.
Right off the bat before starting this video I will tell you I love the show for one thing my favorite pony admits to having a disability yes it’s mostly because I have one myself but it’s a fact that she’s OK That makes it 1000% more awesome
Kitty! =^.^=Anywho, actually Spitfire's lines were kind of funny to me but that's cause I got the reference. They were doing a version of a Chris Farley SNL gag poking fun at motivational speakers, for an anti-drug message, "You'll be living in a van down by the river." However what was funnier about that that failed with Spitfire was the fact that Chris' character introduced himself as "My name is Matt Foley, I am a motivational speaker, & I live in a van down by the river." So the reference was funny but that kind of negates the message and makes Spitfire look like an idiot. And yeah the black&white ending I think came off as a bit of an after-school special thing where it says Scoots is falling with a bad crowd and sadly learns the hard way of "wow the people I thought were cool and act dangerous, really are dangerous." I've seen lots of shows do it better.
I don’t blame you Aramau! RD is my least favorite character of not just the mane 6 but the series overall but this episode doesn’t make me like her less. This episode just make me confused on who side to root for Scootaloo or RD? While most people say this is a great episode, I just think of it as an odd episode for me.
Dash is awesome you moron.
man, I was really surprised when Josh Scorcher showed up in that episode.
(Miss Kitty leaves)
Me- "Awwwww =(. Bye, Miss Kitty."
I experted more from Lightning Dust really. But i did love that they brought her back. Im hoping she returns. I also ship Lightning and Rainbow
MLPDethDealr32
Hey.
No cancer ships, please!
Only Fluttercord.
Its canon
Andrei Richmond Salvaleon hey let the person ship who ever he/she want.
Won't happen. They never bring an antagonist back in back to back seasons, ever. Look at Iron Will, Trixie, Flim and Flam, and now Lightning Dust. They alway let at least a season or two pass between appearances.
And since next season is the last one...
Eewwww!
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It's interesting how many times the addition of one line could salvage a story. For example, in Yakity Sax, the change of one line at the end could have made for a much better lesson (see my comment on that review for more details), and here, you noted that adding one line to the scene with the rocket sled would have made it clear that the lack of safety was out of character for the Washouts.
All in all, I say that this is a good episode (though not great), and yes, now that I think about it, it is interesting that Scootaloo finally admitted that she can't fly. I wonder if the show writers are willing to go any further with this. Namely, is she ever going to be able to fly, or is it now confirmed that Scootaloo is disabled?
For me, it's still a great episode.
21:38 Goddamit, now that you've said it, I realized that how I reread old comments on my fimfic's stories is the very same thing, too :facepalm:
"Callie" (alias "Calico") the cat really did not want to move.
I wonder how long it’s gonna take till they realize that the “drinking through a straw” scene was also referencing the “LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER” skit
Season 8 has had a quite a few duds, but after Yakity Sax, it's been pretty good. I think my theory was right that they wanted to get Yakity Sax out of the way early to keep a longer streak of good episodes.
For me, my favorite episode is Between A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
Liked that one too. Don't spoil anything for those who haven't seen it, though.
Right, the only thing I WILL say is this. If people loved Rockhoof in Campfire Tales and in the Season 7 finale, they'll love him in the next MLP episode
I disagree I think there's only been one true dud and that was Non complete clause.
We did see Short Fuse's cutie mark briefly and it is fire.
remembering of Scootaloo Can't Fly just breaks my heart
Coming up next: Lightning Dust......IN SPACE!!!!!!!
awesome
You three are my favourite reviewers 😎
Did Short Fuse appear in 'Top Bolt?' Maybe that was a coincidence. But they might have parodied Josh with it here.