Hey all, thanks so much for watching the video! While I do love Chompi, it is buggy. Sure, it's only at V1.0 in this video, but do you think bugs should be squashed and finished in beta testing? Or when it comes to small teams trying to develop, letting the customer find out bugs quicker because the sheer amount of users available is bigger is ok? They do have a discord where users report, and the team at Chompi Club does seem devoted to getting this super solid which im excited for! What are your thoughts?
I think they will figure out all the bugs, I'm pretty sure the response was bigger than they expected the Kickstarter did really well and they added all these goals they would add to the device if the goal was met. I think this might have clunked up some stuff, but I do believe they will either fix it or the developing community. BTW you can swap the switches inside seeing as they are just PC keyboard switches , I know you were complaining about the record switch getting picked up. If you go with an ultra smooth gaming switch that's properly lubed you won't hear it nearly like you do with these tactile switches they included. Probably could put a thin layer of foam inside the unit to prevent shallow echoing of the body as well. Though these sounds could be used in the sample as well!
I really appreciate your honesty in this video, Ricky. Was great to see you show of features and genuinely enjoy it, but was great to hear about your frustrations with the decide as well. Great content as always!
We are firmly in the age of paying premium prices for unfinished products. Seems most companies are getting by with cutting their QC departments/processes and farming that responsibility out to their customers. This was thing is incomplete and a non starter until it’s a fully functional unit. Don’t release stuff til it works, folks. Look at polyend with the play disaster or any of the other myriad examples. This has to stop.
What bizarre historical revisionism. The Play was enourmously popular. The idea that it stopped being so when they released an even better version is not helpful, even if people could see the future. It's highly unlikely that they would have released Play+ if Play hadn't been so popular. What few stop to consider is that you got 18 months of usage of the first device, and nobody is forcing you to upgrade. Do you get furious every time a new phone or laptop iteration is announced? No? So how do you justify this position?
Watching you seamlessly access the different functions while still having problems is such a helpful insight. I often just assume I'm going something wrong, but it's a different story seeing how you clearly mastered the manual
Chompi had my attention for a while there. I think I’m gonna drop out. I have strong GAS but I’m happy to let this one slip by. Love your videos, thanks for the content. I DONT EVEN LISTEN TO HOUSE, but your advice and inspiration is very transferable to any of my musical endeavours. Thanks
Thanks for the views! Yea, Chompi took the nation by storm haha, but at the same time was hard to figure out where it landed in terms of features. Kind of reminds me of that really cool looking midi controller video that was going around for a bit. When just a Quick Look at the video made it look like a synth
@@RickyTinez Was that the seaboard or joue je play maybe? The controller market is full of gimmicks that seem to bamboozle the consumer but… sometimes I’m a sucker for a gimmick
Something in the modern era that does this well (and has since 2011) the op-1! You can record to tape, slow the tape down (you can even fine control the slow down by semi-tones up to -24, which is helpful) The record more to the slowed down tape, and schwang the speed right back up. Can do it as many times as you want, up/down/up/down/up/up/up/down, etc. Easy way to make a really sweet sonically full background. Can also reverse the tape as well.
What I've seen of chompi really makes it seem like it just released very unfinished. I'm hopeful they can fix the issues and get it to be the fun box it can be :) I've been really enamored by the visual design of it, but I do wish it had ... more labels.
Ricky, you make the most musical, informative, and honest videos around. And like Red Means Recording, your learning curve is exponential. You figure out synths and pedals at lightning speed. You're definitely gifted! The bottom line, your videos are a fun learning experience and a trusted source of information
Chompi kind of strikes me as a synth for synth youtubers. Like it was designed to just sit on a shelf behind someone while they talk about something else. I can't deny that it's cool and sounds pretty good when you get it to do what it was built for, but ultimately I think you'd get more mileage out of any cheap sampler and a microcosm, ZOIA, or a blooper. Especially if you get them used.
11:00 I had the same issue with the duplicate copies. It’s not overwriting. It’s a bug. If you swap from CUBBI to JAMMI mode and back, your samples will be back to normal. I submitted this bug in their Discord.
Hey Ricky! I just came across your videos today and I can't get enough. You are so well spoken, fair, and extremely educational. I can't wait to watch more and hear what you have to say about other pieces of gear. Thanks for the rad videos!
Thank you Ricky. I was really excited about Chompi and it still looks fun, but maybe not $600 fun. Especially with all the bugs. Hopefully they will all get sorted out and the price will also come down
Hi Ricky! You can also do some of this with the ZOIA looper. It's my favorite way to use it. The best thing is: make a fixed 1 sec loop, slow it waaaaaay down, record = immediate aliasing goodness slow it down a little more, record more = varispeed aliasing goodness :)
Put the unit in Jammi mode. Hold down chompi key and click the speed knob. Put the unit in chompi mode, and then you'll be in latching mode so you can press chompi key and record hands-free, then press chompi key again to end the recording. You will need to do this each time you want to enter this latching mode.
the KP3- korg Kaoss Pad does varispeed looping. And it's bpm based so you always know precisely what bpm you're varispeed'ing your loop to:) . You have four loop slots that you can resample into, so besides the varispeed stuff you can experiment with layering loops, resampling through the KP3 internal fx etc. it's a super useful piece of gear if you're into looping and resampling based workflows, especially for having been made in like the early 2000s.
There is clearly a market for these niche "Instagram friendly" modulation looper products. $650 however is more expensive than an Xbox series X with 4k graphics. I get that it's a start up, but that's taking the biscuit .. pun intended
80% marketing and branding, 20% device lmao. Dont get me wrong, Im sure it's difficult to launch anything without bugs. But things like crashing, basic functions not working, etc. Should be ironed out before launch. Especially if you're asking for 600 dollars.
Just subscribed to your channel! Was on the fence about Chompi, super informative watching you master and struggle through the functions in real time, thanks!
For $600 dollars you could get the Soma Labs Cosmos. Which honestly I think makes way more inspiring and beautiful "loops". It also allows you to reverse, add another layer, reverse it back again. Add as many layers as you want. And there's like 3 different firmware versions from SOMA that let's you do multiple other things.
Makes me realize I should shove my sequencer into a device, call it a 1.0, and let other people find the remaining glitches lmao Also yeah, arm-style recording is mandatory imo. So many of the headaches of my looper-based pc-less setup days was from bending over backwards to get clean loop points and all that. My current DIY solution, made in puredata, uses an arm function for its midi looper, and synced audio looper start signals that come from the arpeggiator, sequencer, or midi looper. So much solved just from that. Being able to save the audio looper's contents sounds nice, that's one of the shortcomings of my setup, since it just uses a single delay buffer per channel and has nowhere to store the original loop. Might make for a good next addition...
They should have shipped them to Beta-testers first, like Behringer did with the UB-Xa. A thing worse than waiting, is waiting for a product that still doesn’t work like it should. I’m glad that I went with the Kiviak Wofi instead, that offers more for the same price. I just hope that they will do proper quality checking. With that said, I applaud everyone who dares making new niche instruments, and also understand that there are costs involved in development and manufacturing.
you can do this easy with lives built in looper - follow same method as above - you can even put multiple loopers in serial and control with a controller etc that being said, chompi looks pretty damn fun for this..
@@tendingtropic7778 record something in one track, speed up or down the tape, record something again, go back to original tempo if desired and repeat if desired.. It's very practical for singers that can't sing in a high register so you slow down the tape and you can sing in a lower register and also slower which might be good for timing too. When going back to original tempo, the voice will sound a bit artificial though. in the intro of 'lucy in the sky with diamonds' from the beatles you can hear this effect. Cheers!. I hope I didn't make anyone to buy an op-1!, hehe.
It starts recording the loop when you hit the button. It doesn't wait for you to place your first note to begin recording. That was a painful watch and made me doubt the validity of the rest of the review.
The moment I saw that they were willing to make this project open source and available as DIY, that told me that there were going to be bugs lurking on release, but with that also comes such amazing possibilities and creative avenues that may not have been developed if it was such a sterile environment right out the gate. Take how buggy the Korg sq-64 was when it first came out, thankfully they eventually released a patch given the bugs and missing features were absolutely ridiculous for the price, but they did focus on the build quality and having it be very utilitarian and because of that its my go to for when I need to sequence a ton of gear in such a small footprint and need something reliable as hell. With something Chompi club though, we get to take part in something bigger and with how many people seem to be excited about the form factor this is designed in, and making it the OP1 killer, I personally dont mind at all getting it while it had some bugs, even at full price, so long as they dont just gut the project and just try to dash with the cash after getting inundated with change requests. This feels a lot more natural with smaller scale hardware products, where at least we get to witness them growing the gear into the final product that we all want to use.
What a conflicting feeling I have, on one hand after that intro I was like; take my money. But, $600. Eeeeesh, that's a lot of money for not a lot of Chompi, I'll keep an eye out for one used maybe. That aside, great video, great demo, the layered piano piece at the start was epic.
I do the same but on a polyend tracker, pitch shift the tracks each as a layer, select them and export as stem, auto load the stem back in and pitch shift it again. You can chop it up, whatever afterward and add effects.
i love the magic that comes from using chompi and love straight forward idea of working with just looping and playing with it, but all quirks u told about here makes me back up. maybe if in future chompi devs will patch those things in software and add some function ideas to make it easier to work on single piece and not mostly meandring in jamming i will get back to idea of gottin it. its lovely device and would love to get deep into it but more without thinking - now its too much thinking, too much feeling unsure about small details of workflow. because of this my mind gets to feel calmer thinking about gettin organelle m or s and using more thinking, but keepin sure i could have more control. but for adventurous jamming chompi can be better thing, i believe:) thanks for showing it so nicely Ricky. best demo for me
Looked into this machine extensively, was in the market for a hardware sampler. Ended up preordering the Torso S-4 instead. Granular is a nice feature, also I’m more into programming sequencers than playing with keys.
13:00 You would have to record a loop and save it to a slot, then erase the loop, then load the loop you just saved, then add to/edit it and record that new loop to a different spot. Rinse and repeat...
Absolutely LOVE the new intro! I bet you had a fun time making it 😀.(and those small fx flourishes like the tape stop). Ever since I saw your video last week I've been really digging into the Octatrack to see if it could do the same kind of stuff. I swear it can with multiple Pickup Machines and Thru machines but haven't quite nailed it yet. Might need to ask EZBOT, haha.
I am also a big fan of varispeed looping. The only thing I own that does it well is the Eventide time factor. The octatrack can be tricked into doing it, but it is very inconvenient. Also, Reaper has a global varispeed that opens up several possibilities, my favorite is to reamp tracks with varispeed to stretch the room ambience. Slow the session down, bounce then speed back up. The reverb is shorter and brighter with a different character. Also, overdubbing many tracks in the same room tends to get muddy because the room modes are the same on all tracks. If you varispeed the modes shift and dont pile up the same way.
I loved the initial trailer for Chompi, it looks very promising and I would like to try it out, but the price is just too high for just „trying out“. Half a ton for a looper keyboard, nah.
@@whoadog8725 OT can only do varispeed playback, not recording. In fact it yells at you if you try to do variapeed recording. so it’s just like any other looper or sampler in that regard
mentioning things that do this varispeed looping- the Gauss app on iOS does varispeed recording very cleanly and easily. The workflow is slightly different because you determine the loop length before doing any recording. It also is not a sampler, just tape loops, but it does it beautifully, and has a really unique sequencing playback speed on the loop. If you have an iPad, highly worth checking out, especially if you already have AUM and input/output hardware for the iPad.
so if i understand this correctly, people bought a toy looking contraption with super obscure labeling and some weird unlabeled menus that has very limited i/o and just 15 keys and that needs constant study of the manual if you leave it for more than a month and that on top costs a whopping 600 bucks... and they expected what exactly? not being ripped off?
@@Semc_Sucks Ciat Lombarde is something else i would argue. it very clearly is weird and esoteric, unapologetic if you will. but this one i feel is more of a promise broken and its cumbersome way of not communicating the controls properly and making simple things complicated is a plump way of moving with the newest trends of being unnecessarily complicated (but with many cute animals and "fun" color schemes). it would be a different story if it was cute AND did things reliably. reminds me of circuit bending.
so... you CAN save variations of a loop by clearing the looper after saving your loop and then copy that loop into the looper to overdub, right? loop-looper-loop-loop-looper
It used to be the case when a startup ran out of funding, the creator would get bought up by a bigger player and help push the product out. Like the Valkyrie becoming the Kyra with Waldorf.
Valkyrie was only ever a prototype, Waldorf turned it into a product, but they also disabled its wavetables so it wouldn’t compete with their other products.
@@RikMaxSpeed I know that's what I was saying. Waldorf also entirely changed the interface, leaving us with one of the worst menu dives in all of synthdom. Not a worthy virus successor.
Lowkey I just wanted to know if there were other options out there for a pretty fun way to approach varispeed looping while having fun with some physical knobs. I may be able to just do this shit with logic and a midi setup? All the product demos of this thing though have really beautiful low ends/texture. Would like to figure out a fun way to do it without dropping half a g. May circuit bend a tapedeck for some weird sound on sound shit idk
ricky nobody seems to realize you can put the 8 tracks from the opz onto the 8 midi tracks on the digitakt. and on top of that you can use the digitakt to sequence chords from the op1. and ontop of that you can pick 8 parameters to assign to the cc knobs on the digitakt and you can parameter lock those cc changes. please make a short about this
i love that the keyboard itself is a qwerty computer keyboard. i grew up as a computer DAW producer so i usually just use my computer to play everything. Wish theyd make a 49 key version of this lol
I really love the look of this thing, 80s af.. like something straight out of an "Alien" movie I hope they can really boil this thing down, such an interesting (albeit flawed!) instrument Far too expensive for what it is, though..
If they are going to sell a keyboard with actual mechanical key switches and an onboard mic then they need to make sure that the switches are as silent as possible. It says on the website they use silent red. Those should be relatively silent, but there are other more premium switches that when lubricated would be better. It might just be that the silent reds need some lubrication too. Topre would be a good choice too because I bet the electrostatics could be used to control some other aspect of the sound. It does say it’s hotswap compatible, so many give some other switches a try.
its really lucky for companies that they can probably throw you a piece of candy and you make an entire billy mays style sales pitch for them. the future is so weird and based completely around commercials
Originally had a reserve on that pink one as well. Was a bit scared of the price and the prospect of how it would come out compared to the price. I think it's cool, and I love the ideas and aesthetics of the product still. Maybe it'll be a future pick up once there's more bug fixes and possibly hardware fixes. I think Chompii could use the idea from Teenage Engineering on the new EP133 and use flashing for the lights to show the "middle"/0 point, easy and effective switch!
To answer the question - many things do varispeed well or better than this. OP1 has done it since 2011, the Blooper is built around doing this workflow in layers, and I use my Strymon magneto for this varispeed layering all the time.
just curious.. wouldn't this kind of technique work much better with the MPC-One using a combination of it's looper, FX like halftime and reverse, and it's sequencer... sometimes I feel like people might not be aware of what is really possible with the mpc in this regard kinda like it's so familiar to us that some really cool things it can do are unfamiliar... kind of like what Dakim is doing here with the mpc live... ruclips.net/video/r9H0cIaARpo/видео.htmlfeature=shared
CHOMPI review aside, this video introduced me to varispeed recording and I really want to try it in the future in my own writing (I have never used a sampler before)
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Hey all, thanks so much for watching the video!
While I do love Chompi, it is buggy. Sure, it's only at V1.0 in this video, but do you think bugs should be squashed and finished in beta testing? Or when it comes to small teams trying to develop, letting the customer find out bugs quicker because the sheer amount of users available is bigger is ok?
They do have a discord where users report, and the team at Chompi Club does seem devoted to getting this super solid which im excited for! What are your thoughts?
I think they will figure out all the bugs, I'm pretty sure the response was bigger than they expected the Kickstarter did really well and they added all these goals they would add to the device if the goal was met. I think this might have clunked up some stuff, but I do believe they will either fix it or the developing community.
BTW you can swap the switches inside seeing as they are just PC keyboard switches , I know you were complaining about the record switch getting picked up. If you go with an ultra smooth gaming switch that's properly lubed you won't hear it nearly like you do with these tactile switches they included. Probably could put a thin layer of foam inside the unit to prevent shallow echoing of the body as well. Though these sounds could be used in the sample as well!
You mean "I" have to pay the "Chompany" $600.00......to be a Beta-Tester??!?!!?!!!
I really appreciate your honesty in this video, Ricky. Was great to see you show of features and genuinely enjoy it, but was great to hear about your frustrations with the decide as well. Great content as always!
It’s a new company, some speed bumps are to be expected. One advantage is, they have no excuses being distracted by other projects. 😂
im just so tired of it..
We are firmly in the age of paying premium prices for unfinished products. Seems most companies are getting by with cutting their QC departments/processes and farming that responsibility out to their customers. This was thing is incomplete and a non starter until it’s a fully functional unit. Don’t release stuff til it works, folks. Look at polyend with the play disaster or any of the other myriad examples. This has to stop.
on the other hand, these boutique companies would not be able to put out products without people who are willing to pay the early adopter tax.
Beta testing is a job. Pay up all you scumbags.
What bizarre historical revisionism. The Play was enourmously popular. The idea that it stopped being so when they released an even better version is not helpful, even if people could see the future. It's highly unlikely that they would have released Play+ if Play hadn't been so popular. What few stop to consider is that you got 18 months of usage of the first device, and nobody is forcing you to upgrade. Do you get furious every time a new phone or laptop iteration is announced? No? So how do you justify this position?
Electronic instrument manufacturers taking a cue from video game developers.
@@pjforde1978lol what? phones? really?
Watching you seamlessly access the different functions while still having problems is such a helpful insight. I often just assume I'm going something wrong, but it's a different story seeing how you clearly mastered the manual
$600 seems like a really bad price for something so limited, can get a used op-1 for that price
hell yeah! a used OP1 with 3 missing keys and a faulty battery!
@@Semc_Sucks Toys aren't cheap these days!
You could get a brand new sp404mk2 for that price. Actually for a little less.
@@Decoy303 Or a MPC One.
Used OP-1s are getting *more* expensive, not less. At least that's what I've seen near me
Thanks for that quality content. This channel is a mandatory watch every time.
Thanks for the support Heyes!
Chompi had my attention for a while there. I think I’m gonna drop out. I have strong GAS but I’m happy to let this one slip by. Love your videos, thanks for the content. I DONT EVEN LISTEN TO HOUSE, but your advice and inspiration is very transferable to any of my musical endeavours. Thanks
Thanks for the views! Yea, Chompi took the nation by storm haha, but at the same time was hard to figure out where it landed in terms of features. Kind of reminds me of that really cool looking midi controller video that was going around for a bit. When just a Quick Look at the video made it look like a synth
@@RickyTinez Was that the seaboard or joue je play maybe? The controller market is full of gimmicks that seem to bamboozle the consumer but… sometimes I’m a sucker for a gimmick
@@poco_a_poco_music Perhaps that means this one. Nopia: ruclips.net/video/Ivuy9QYLFVY/видео.html
Something in the modern era that does this well (and has since 2011) the op-1!
You can record to tape, slow the tape down (you can even fine control the slow down by semi-tones up to -24, which is helpful)
The record more to the slowed down tape, and schwang the speed right back up.
Can do it as many times as you want, up/down/up/down/up/up/up/down, etc.
Easy way to make a really sweet sonically full background.
Can also reverse the tape as well.
Gauss (iPad/iPhone app made in collaboration with @Hainbach) is somewhat designed to do variapeed loops.
What I've seen of chompi really makes it seem like it just released very unfinished. I'm hopeful they can fix the issues and get it to be the fun box it can be :) I've been really enamored by the visual design of it, but I do wish it had ... more labels.
Like... "CUBBI" and "JAMMY" modes? Just tell us what it is, don't give shit dumb cutesy names to confuse everyone.
another incredibly clear, well thought through & super helpful breakdown... for the people, by the people. thanks bunches, enrique!!
Ricky, you make the most musical, informative, and honest videos around. And like Red Means Recording, your learning curve is exponential. You figure out synths and pedals at lightning speed. You're definitely gifted! The bottom line, your videos are a fun learning experience and a trusted source of information
Chompi kind of strikes me as a synth for synth youtubers. Like it was designed to just sit on a shelf behind someone while they talk about something else. I can't deny that it's cool and sounds pretty good when you get it to do what it was built for, but ultimately I think you'd get more mileage out of any cheap sampler and a microcosm, ZOIA, or a blooper. Especially if you get them used.
Yea, It's a cool premade diy synth.
haha i totally agree!!
Spot on. 100% spot on. All these synthtubers are the same too, and it’s exactly what they’ll do with it 😂
11:00 I had the same issue with the duplicate copies. It’s not overwriting. It’s a bug. If you swap from CUBBI to JAMMI mode and back, your samples will be back to normal. I submitted this bug in their Discord.
aaahhhhh interesting! Thanks for that tip
That’s good to know. I’m looking forward to joining the community and getting to know the methods.
@@setphaser that bug among others is fixed in a recent update, been working great since!
Hey Ricky! I just came across your videos today and I can't get enough. You are so well spoken, fair, and extremely educational. I can't wait to watch more and hear what you have to say about other pieces of gear. Thanks for the rad videos!
Morphegene does verispeed recording very well. You can sync it with clock too, and set the loop to play back according to the incoming clock.
Chompi seems like a simple morphagene and basic clouds in a box - kinda cool!
Bro your lighting and color grading is so nice
this is the best video i've seen showcasing this lil guy! lots of good info ty :)
Thank you Ricky. I was really excited about Chompi and it still looks fun, but maybe not $600 fun. Especially with all the bugs. Hopefully they will all get sorted out and the price will also come down
Hi Ricky!
You can also do some of this with the ZOIA looper. It's my favorite way to use it.
The best thing is:
make a fixed 1 sec loop, slow it waaaaaay down, record = immediate aliasing goodness
slow it down a little more, record more = varispeed aliasing goodness :)
can't you do this with op-1field too?
Put the unit in Jammi mode. Hold down chompi key and click the speed knob. Put the unit in chompi mode, and then you'll be in latching mode so you can press chompi key and record hands-free, then press chompi key again to end the recording. You will need to do this each time you want to enter this latching mode.
the KP3- korg Kaoss Pad does varispeed looping. And it's bpm based so you always know precisely what bpm you're varispeed'ing your loop to:) . You have four loop slots that you can resample into, so besides the varispeed stuff you can experiment with layering loops, resampling through the KP3 internal fx etc. it's a super useful piece of gear if you're into looping and resampling based workflows, especially for having been made in like the early 2000s.
I have a KP3 and never knew this
There is clearly a market for these niche "Instagram friendly" modulation looper products. $650 however is more expensive than an Xbox series X with 4k graphics. I get that it's a start up, but that's taking the biscuit .. pun intended
80% marketing and branding, 20% device lmao.
Dont get me wrong, Im sure it's difficult to launch anything without bugs.
But things like crashing, basic functions not working, etc. Should be ironed out before launch. Especially if you're asking for 600 dollars.
Just subscribed to your channel! Was on the fence about Chompi, super informative watching you master and struggle through the functions in real time, thanks!
The piano tone from the electro is gorgeous. Forget chompi
Great video,! There are so many samplers out there to choose from at the moment. Thanks for breaking this one [down] for us.
It’s easy to armchair quarterback any design, but you did a thorough review that was as free from bias as possible. Ty!
I’m intrigued by the Chompi, but I made a commitment to not buy any gear in 2024. Waiting patiently for someone to recreate it in M4L.
Back in the 90s all hardware was always more reliable than software but today its often the reverse.
For $600 dollars you could get the Soma Labs Cosmos. Which honestly I think makes way more inspiring and beautiful "loops". It also allows you to reverse, add another layer, reverse it back again. Add as many layers as you want. And there's like 3 different firmware versions from SOMA that let's you do multiple other things.
For $600 you can do a lot. So what?
@rickeyTinez - I miss the old intro. It's been part of my saturday for three years.
Watching this makes me super happy I snagged an sp404mk2 for $400 on black friday. $200 less and wayyyy more capable
Makes me realize I should shove my sequencer into a device, call it a 1.0, and let other people find the remaining glitches lmao
Also yeah, arm-style recording is mandatory imo. So many of the headaches of my looper-based pc-less setup days was from bending over backwards to get clean loop points and all that. My current DIY solution, made in puredata, uses an arm function for its midi looper, and synced audio looper start signals that come from the arpeggiator, sequencer, or midi looper. So much solved just from that.
Being able to save the audio looper's contents sounds nice, that's one of the shortcomings of my setup, since it just uses a single delay buffer per channel and has nowhere to store the original loop. Might make for a good next addition...
They should have shipped them to Beta-testers first, like Behringer did with the UB-Xa. A thing worse than waiting, is waiting for a product that still doesn’t work like it should. I’m glad that I went with the Kiviak Wofi instead, that offers more for the same price. I just hope that they will do proper quality checking. With that said, I applaud everyone who dares making new niche instruments, and also understand that there are costs involved in development and manufacturing.
Bought limited edition. Got it. Hated it so so much. Sold for $1000 . Yay
That issue around 11:00 is why I put mine down for a while. I’m going to test out the firmware update soon.
you can do this easy with lives built in looper - follow same method as above - you can even put multiple loopers in serial and control with a controller etc that being said, chompi looks pretty damn fun for this..
OP1 can do the varispeed - Quasimodo - type thing by changing the tape speed and overdubbing. The reverse on chompi is cool though!
Yea but it's way too expensive
@@atetraxxwhen you consider this is $600 for like 1/5th of the features that Op-1 has, I’d say this is worse value for money to be honest.
oh not bad! and the used prices have come down a ton
when I first saw Chompi i fell in love, kinda bummed that it has some kinks
Loopy Pro does varispeed really well.
the varispeed recording can be done super easy in op-1 and also in organelle. also of course in tape machines with speed control.
how would you do this in an op-1?
@@tendingtropic7778 record something in one track, speed up or down the tape, record something again, go back to original tempo if desired and repeat if desired.. It's very practical for singers that can't sing in a high register so you slow down the tape and you can sing in a lower register and also slower which might be good for timing too. When going back to original tempo, the voice will sound a bit artificial though. in the intro of 'lucy in the sky with diamonds' from the beatles you can hear this effect. Cheers!. I hope I didn't make anyone to buy an op-1!, hehe.
It starts recording the loop when you hit the button. It doesn't wait for you to place your first note to begin recording. That was a painful watch and made me doubt the validity of the rest of the review.
He himself said that as well
It would've been cool if they had that built in (not that it was supposed to work and didn't)
@@alnea It's almost like they got to the part they disagreed with, quit watching, and immediately came to the comment section to complain.
The moment I saw that they were willing to make this project open source and available as DIY, that told me that there were going to be bugs lurking on release, but with that also comes such amazing possibilities and creative avenues that may not have been developed if it was such a sterile environment right out the gate. Take how buggy the Korg sq-64 was when it first came out, thankfully they eventually released a patch given the bugs and missing features were absolutely ridiculous for the price, but they did focus on the build quality and having it be very utilitarian and because of that its my go to for when I need to sequence a ton of gear in such a small footprint and need something reliable as hell. With something Chompi club though, we get to take part in something bigger and with how many people seem to be excited about the form factor this is designed in, and making it the OP1 killer, I personally dont mind at all getting it while it had some bugs, even at full price, so long as they dont just gut the project and just try to dash with the cash after getting inundated with change requests. This feels a lot more natural with smaller scale hardware products, where at least we get to witness them growing the gear into the final product that we all want to use.
What a conflicting feeling I have, on one hand after that intro I was like; take my money. But, $600. Eeeeesh, that's a lot of money for not a lot of Chompi, I'll keep an eye out for one used maybe. That aside, great video, great demo, the layered piano piece at the start was epic.
I don't know man, for $600 you can get a lot of great gear.
I do the same but on a polyend tracker, pitch shift the tracks each as a layer, select them and export as stem, auto load the stem back in and pitch shift it again. You can chop it up, whatever afterward and add effects.
i thought this thing was gona be about $100
Bro had me hypppppped when low class conspiracy came on that track BANGS
every time right?! neck breaker
With that Lord Quas up in here 🤩🤩
i love the magic that comes from using chompi and love straight forward idea of working with just looping and playing with it, but all quirks u told about here makes me back up. maybe if in future chompi devs will patch those things in software and add some function ideas to make it easier to work on single piece and not mostly meandring in jamming i will get back to idea of gottin it.
its lovely device and would love to get deep into it but more without thinking - now its too much thinking, too much feeling unsure about small details of workflow. because of this my mind gets to feel calmer thinking about gettin organelle m or s and using more thinking, but keepin sure i could have more control. but for adventurous jamming chompi can be better thing, i believe:)
thanks for showing it so nicely Ricky. best demo for me
I like you. You're fair and balanced and a good teacher. I'll be coming back to check your other videos...
Doesn’t the op 1 have varispeed as well??
Looked into this machine extensively, was in the market for a hardware sampler.
Ended up preordering the Torso S-4 instead. Granular is a nice feature, also I’m more into programming sequencers than playing with keys.
13:00 You would have to record a loop and save it to a slot, then erase the loop, then load the loop you just saved, then add to/edit it and record that new loop to a different spot. Rinse and repeat...
Absolutely LOVE the new intro! I bet you had a fun time making it 😀.(and those small fx flourishes like the tape stop). Ever since I saw your video last week I've been really digging into the Octatrack to see if it could do the same kind of stuff. I swear it can with multiple Pickup Machines and Thru machines but haven't quite nailed it yet. Might need to ask EZBOT, haha.
I am also a big fan of varispeed looping. The only thing I own that does it well is the Eventide time factor. The octatrack can be tricked into doing it, but it is very inconvenient.
Also, Reaper has a global varispeed that opens up several possibilities, my favorite is to reamp tracks with varispeed to stretch the room ambience. Slow the session down, bounce then speed back up. The reverb is shorter and brighter with a different character.
Also, overdubbing many tracks in the same room tends to get muddy because the room modes are the same on all tracks. If you varispeed the modes shift and dont pile up the same way.
I'm so glad I missed out on the kickstarter.
I loved the initial trailer for Chompi, it looks very promising and I would like to try it out, but the price is just too high for just „trying out“.
Half a ton for a looper keyboard, nah.
Nice! I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure the OP-1 will do vari-speed recording, even different speeds on different tracks.
Absolutely as long as you record the tracks one at a time
The OP-1 can definitely do it. The Octatrack has vari-speed playback, which allows you to mimic it as well.
@@whoadog8725 OT can only do varispeed playback, not recording. In fact it yells at you if you try to do variapeed recording.
so it’s just like any other looper or sampler in that regard
one of the flaws of the octatrack is the overdubbing wont let you mess with tempo. stupid/outdated on an otherwise amazing hardware.@@zbsfm
@@zbsfm Totally, but you can mimic the technique in the video with varispeed playback and resampling.
my tape machine does this
What I read from all this is that Chompi's childish, simplistic interface actually makes it a lot harder to use.
the workflow is actually pretty simplistic and not hard to get around at all! I think that's a plus it has going for it
@@RickyTinez Except that you have to go on a single LED to set filter values and what some button combos really do is more of a lottery.
It's a very cute synth. The manufacturers knew that, and that's the only reason why it got to market.
mentioning things that do this varispeed looping- the Gauss app on iOS does varispeed recording very cleanly and easily. The workflow is slightly different because you determine the loop length before doing any recording. It also is not a sampler, just tape loops, but it does it beautifully, and has a really unique sequencing playback speed on the loop. If you have an iPad, highly worth checking out, especially if you already have AUM and input/output hardware for the iPad.
Quas!!! oh hell yeah, Madlib in the house!
Unexpected and much appreciated!!!
so if i understand this correctly, people bought a toy looking contraption with super obscure labeling and some weird unlabeled menus that has very limited i/o and just 15 keys and that needs constant study of the manual if you leave it for more than a month and that on top costs a whopping 600 bucks... and they expected what exactly? not being ripped off?
I agree but it is kind of critically lacking in polish for an intentionally limited device, which is particularly damning for six hundred dollars
@@GreatistheWorld exactly my point. For 150 i would give it a pass as a fun mystery box.
and yet people buy Ciat Lombardes garbage. Its ok if youre not into niche synths but holy hell what a weird take.
@@Semc_Sucks it's the fact that he is not into it at that price point, which makes a lot of sense, looks a lot like style over substance to me.
@@Semc_Sucks Ciat Lombarde is something else i would argue. it very clearly is weird and esoteric, unapologetic if you will. but this one i feel is more of a promise broken and its cumbersome way of not communicating the controls properly and making simple things complicated is a plump way of moving with the newest trends of being unnecessarily complicated (but with many cute animals and "fun" color schemes). it would be a different story if it was cute AND did things reliably. reminds me of circuit bending.
so... you CAN save variations of a loop by clearing the looper after saving your loop and then copy that loop into the looper to overdub, right? loop-looper-loop-loop-looper
I will stick to my su-700 and 3 chaos pads to capture .. pitch and speed.. all this .. yamaha nailed it with the SU
I'm only @2:22 in the video and this issue alone is enough reason to laugh at the price point.
I'm still baffled by the price of this thing.
I can do all of that on an sp404mk2 for the same price but infinite more features
Respect for the Quasimodo shoutout!
Lord Quas
Getting some major Calibre vibes in the first few minutes
It used to be the case when a startup ran out of funding, the creator would get bought up by a bigger player and help push the product out. Like the Valkyrie becoming the Kyra with Waldorf.
Valkyrie was only ever a prototype, Waldorf turned it into a product, but they also disabled its wavetables so it wouldn’t compete with their other products.
@@RikMaxSpeed I know that's what I was saying. Waldorf also entirely changed the interface, leaving us with one of the worst menu dives in all of synthdom. Not a worthy virus successor.
Lowkey I just wanted to know if there were other options out there for a pretty fun way to approach varispeed looping while having fun with some physical knobs. I may be able to just do this shit with logic and a midi setup? All the product demos of this thing though have really beautiful low ends/texture. Would like to figure out a fun way to do it without dropping half a g. May circuit bend a tapedeck for some weird sound on sound shit idk
For varispeed tape looping in eurorack, I highly recommend the jroo loop!
Morphagene can also do it
so can Whimsical Raps W/ - downside is the horrible UI@@ChumpyDumps
At 600 bucks this shit should be FLAWLESS
This is almost the same price as the Legion Go and that’s a full blown Windows gaming tablet that I can also use Ableton and all its plugins on.
VERY cool 🤩 I hope the next run is available in pink as well!
ricky nobody seems to realize you can put the 8 tracks from the opz onto the 8 midi tracks on the digitakt. and on top of that you can use the digitakt to sequence chords from the op1. and ontop of that you can pick 8 parameters to assign to the cc knobs on the digitakt and you can parameter lock those cc changes. please make a short about this
I dunno if i like the instrument but i❤like what u get offovit. Beautiful.
A kids instrument with a steeper learning curve then the Octatrack.
i love that the keyboard itself is a qwerty computer keyboard. i grew up as a computer DAW producer so i usually just use my computer to play everything. Wish theyd make a 49 key version of this lol
I really love the look of this thing, 80s af.. like something straight out of an "Alien" movie
I hope they can really boil this thing down, such an interesting (albeit flawed!) instrument
Far too expensive for what it is, though..
Why is it not a sequencer but looks like one?
If they are going to sell a keyboard with actual mechanical key switches and an onboard mic then they need to make sure that the switches are as silent as possible. It says on the website they use silent red. Those should be relatively silent, but there are other more premium switches that when lubricated would be better. It might just be that the silent reds need some lubrication too. Topre would be a good choice too because I bet the electrostatics could be used to control some other aspect of the sound. It does say it’s hotswap compatible, so many give some other switches a try.
Audio Damage Enso can do similar looping plus a whole lot more.
I liked it before I saw the price ✌️
Bug fixes don't do much though when you already own the bugged hardware.
its really lucky for companies that they can probably throw you a piece of candy and you make an entire billy mays style sales pitch for them. the future is so weird and based completely around commercials
Originally had a reserve on that pink one as well. Was a bit scared of the price and the prospect of how it would come out compared to the price. I think it's cool, and I love the ideas and aesthetics of the product still. Maybe it'll be a future pick up once there's more bug fixes and possibly hardware fixes.
I think Chompii could use the idea from Teenage Engineering on the new EP133 and use flashing for the lights to show the "middle"/0 point, easy and effective switch!
To answer the question - many things do varispeed well or better than this. OP1 has done it since 2011, the Blooper is built around doing this workflow in layers, and I use my Strymon magneto for this varispeed layering all the time.
only 4 minutes into the video and the sounds coming out of this box sounds beautiful!!
It would make a good tool especially for lofi that varied speed recording is cool create a loop and sample it into a sample
It’s cool, seems like a technique like that would be easier and faster in Ableton.😅😅
almost anything is easier in Ableton haha
just curious.. wouldn't this kind of technique work much better with the MPC-One using a combination of it's looper, FX like halftime and reverse, and it's sequencer... sometimes I feel like people might not be aware of what is really possible with the mpc in this regard kinda like it's so familiar to us that some really cool things it can do are unfamiliar... kind of like what Dakim is doing here with the mpc live... ruclips.net/video/r9H0cIaARpo/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Can’t do this with the SP404mk2?
Price tag should around the korg volca range. Maybe korg makes a better version ❤
The Strymon Magneto has varispeed looping ability and of course it sounds awesome because it’s Strymon.
I know what you mean, I used to do it a lot on the Roland MS1 with its master pitch.
It is still not worth the $900 here before freight in Australia though. I can do all that with my Emulator sampler and a DAW by the way.
CHOMPI review aside, this video introduced me to varispeed recording and I really want to try it in the future in my own writing (I have never used a sampler before)