Damn it is amazing the shit that triggers emotion. My Dad was at this game and he passed away 11 years ago. I went from Army/Navy Football highlights to David Robinson videos to crying watching a basketball game that happened 34 years ago. Life is weird!
You know it's vintage when you hear Axel F, from the Beverly Hills Cop Soundtrack. Seriously, those of us who were kids during that era were fortunate to see so much great collegiate talent back then: Bias, Robinson, Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Wayman Tisdale (R.I.P.), Reggie Miller, Steve Alford, Keith Lee, Akeem Olajuwon, etc....all I need now is an R.C. Cola, 6 wings and mumbo sauce, and potato wedges from Smokie's on 14th St. (D.C. Carryout), my old school Adidas Forums and Adidas sweat suit.
@@jonboxleitner7354 sorry for the late response, but I'll raise you and throw in Sam Bowie prior to his leg injuries, Dominique Wilkins, Buck Williams, Mark Aguirre, the McCray twins from Louisville (Rodney & Scooter), James Worthy, Ron Harper, Xavier McDaniel, Johnny Dawkins, Ken (Mouse) McFadden, Jerome Lane, Nate Blackwell, Mark Macon...we can do this all day like we're at a sports bar.
If Len Bias and Reggie Lewis would have lived , and Larry Bird's back would not have gotten messed up , who knows how many championships the Celtics would've won !
That's not necessarily true. Bird's back already was starting to have problems by 1986 and it's impossible to know how good Bias would've been in the pros, especially if he would've developed a drug habit. By the time Lewis died Bird was retired. The Lakers and Pistons were both great all time teams and the Celtics probably got everything they could out of their era.
Even if Bias & Lewis didn't add any length to the careers of Bird, McHale... Boston would have rolled on to a few more titles in the late 80's to early 90's. Lakers wouldn't have kept up - they were done with titles in '88 anyway; Pistons never would've gotten to the finals, & Bulls would've had to wait even longer.
it would have been a lot. with bias coming in bird and mchale could have been relieved of playing 40 minutes a night. KC Jones had a big problem letting young guys "come up" though. Sam Vincent rotted on the bench when if you think about it- Vincent, Bias, Lewis could have been a "bench team" speed juggernaut. and Vincent could have helped preserve DJ too. but would KC have let them play? Bias was too good not to play, especially with McHale's nevicular fracture. McHale doesn't even walk normally to this day. these guys let it all hang out for years and years past their prime. sad to watch but they were so good that as a hardcore Celts fan they still got you thinking they could win it all. which they could if it wasn't for those 82 games before you started over.....
BIAS Was The Only Man That I Barely Knew That I Actually Caught A Tear For When He Died. I Got To Scrimmage And Play Against LEN And His Brother JAY, Who Got MURDERED In PG County, At The U of Md. Summer Basketball Camps. LEN Was A Down To Earth Dude, He Treated Me With RESPECT And Didn't Carry Himself Like His Shi_ Didn't STINK. RIP LEN 😣💯
This is some quality basketball, better than current NBA. Can't believe how bad things have gotten, that old college basketball was far far better. Only part that sucks is the end because there is no shot clock, and they just wast time, just like they do in soccer still.
Bias was James Worthy a top 50 all time player, Boston would have been so good it's scary as the 1985-86 team was arguably (along with 1987 LAL and 1996 Bulls) the most talented of all time then drafted Bias.
When people compare anyone to Jordan, I laugh because Jordan was and is the best to ever play the game (Bird said it too). Bias really was in Jordan's league. Actually bigger and stronger. His game reminds me of Bernard King.
Come on, you know the NC coach held back Jordan. Still, Jordan did better in a team concept which helped him in the NBA. MJ's coach is said to be the only guy that kept Jordan under 20. Hey Marvin, no doubt Len was a beast. He might have been a bigger, stronger version of Jordan. Certainly, a terrific physical specimen. Just a damn shame his judgement was not as good as his basketball. We Hoopers are still sad over his needless death. Lenny's death makes no sense. He might have been murdered. He had enough drugs in him to kill a bull elephant. Assuming he survived then what? If he had that kind of habit, he would not have lasted on the Celtics for long. Proof we need leaders not followers to work+play and stand for something bigger than themselves.
a black man rising right in front of navy midshipmen. bias was the best when he had the ball, and he passed it as well, just that Jordan was more media-ready and Bias didn't channel his energy towards that aspect of showmanship, but 1 can see he would dose off even when playing like in this game where he is just stuck in the paint. as he gets tired he's just moving around trying to help the team..but miraculously even 30 years later. HE WOULD MAke PLAYS from nothing. Jordan had a plan to execute. but bias watched nd attacked . he was tired nd should of slowed down but being young black in America during the cold war. was too much for one being to save the world from international struggles. they set him up fail. R.I.P Len
Watching these classic games, I forget that we didn't have the 3-point line until the late 80s. Also, I love the camera angle of this game. Wow. Great view of both offensive and defensive systems.
I would go so far as to say that at this point in their lives, Len Bias was easily better than Jordan. No contest. However, you have to remember that Jordan was nowhere near his prime until he hit the NBA. I've watched several full games of Jordan as a Tar Heel and it's a very pale shadow of the Jordan we see in the NBA.
Hilarious, I've never seen Doug Collins as a young guy before. Watch David Robinson after shot blocks run the floor on the break. It's insane, almost gazelle like. I've only ever seen one big run like that and that was a young Rasheed Wallace on UNC. Bias would've been successful in the league on athleticism and strength alone. Kind of hard to compare him to anybody though. Haha he definitely had the NBA flop down at 31:51 as I was writing this.
I also like the alternate version of Testudo standing on the M and holding the Maryland state flag in his left hand as well as the early to mid 80's logo.
Who ever said that len bias was better than jordan is crazy as fuck....i'll give it to him they were evenly matched in college but michael was the greatest
Marvin Hagler Bull, watch some film and make a informed opinion. Watch the tube game of Maryland -NC. Jordan played forward with Kenny Smith as a guard. MJ played D, obtained steals, key rebounds and played a sound overall complete game.
To all you young people. The only reason Michael Jordan elevated his game to greatness was because of his Sneaker Contract with Nike. It stipulated Jordan must win Rookie of the year, make the All Star Team every year, score at least 20 points every night, and win an MVP withing 3 yrs in order for him to have a say on how his sneaker will be made and to recieve his 100000 dollar a yr deal.
As a David Robinson fan, it's disappointing to see a terrible coach and team choke and be dumb about strategy (you let 3 minutes of 2nd half clock go by after choking by not being able to handle full-court press!? Foul right away and get those lobs into D-Rob stupid Coach!!!), but as an Army fan ... ha, ha! As usual, the navy is dumb (look at the recent handling of COVID-19 on the USS Roosevelt)
Bias better than Jordan! Please!! Lefty let Bias and Branch run loose but Dean Smith kept MJ under wraps at NC. No way would Bias have ever been turned loose with a Celtics team of Bird, McHale, Parish etc
Bias was better than Robinson, an equal athlete, and more skilled at everything. If not for the drugs, he would have played about twenty minutes a game as a rookie, spelling both Bird and McHale, and prolonging both of their careers. But the decision to take drugs ruined all of that, and I was never a Celtic fan. That 1986 draft was an ill-fated one, drug problem children Chris Washburn, Roy Tarpley, and William Bedford. Including Bias these were 4 of the first 7 players chosen, the 2nd and 3rd , and 6th and 7th. Two other players in that first round were Brad Sellers by the Bulls, where it is said that Jordan ruined his self-confidence, and John "Hot Plate" Williams by Washington with the 12th pick. He ate himself out of the league, although a wonderful player, and highly skilled for a man who was 6'9" and 275lbs. And I include dribbling and the passing in those skills.
Damn it is amazing the shit that triggers emotion. My Dad was at this game and he passed away 11 years ago. I went from Army/Navy Football highlights to David Robinson videos to crying watching a basketball game that happened 34 years ago. Life is weird!
Len Bias and David Robinson. What a treat!
I went to his Basketball camp 3 months before he died. He inspired me to play Basketball.
I remember this game. This goes way back when they did not have a 24 second clock or three point line....I was following Len Bias
Bias was a beast rest in peace Lenny
You know it's vintage when you hear Axel F, from the Beverly Hills Cop Soundtrack. Seriously, those of us who were kids during that era were fortunate to see so much great collegiate talent back then: Bias, Robinson, Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Wayman Tisdale (R.I.P.), Reggie Miller, Steve Alford, Keith Lee, Akeem Olajuwon, etc....all I need now is an R.C. Cola, 6 wings and mumbo sauce, and potato wedges from Smokie's on 14th St. (D.C. Carryout), my old school Adidas Forums and Adidas sweat suit.
Where the players back then as exciting as they are now like Zion Williamson?
@@andrewpak9102 even more so. The talent pool back then speaks for itself.
I'll throw Ralph Sampson, Danny Manning, Pearl Washington, Kenny Anderson, Mitch Richmond, Ed Pinkney and Clyde Drexler in on that list, too.
@@jonboxleitner7354 sorry for the late response, but I'll raise you and throw in Sam Bowie prior to his leg injuries, Dominique Wilkins, Buck Williams, Mark Aguirre, the McCray twins from Louisville (Rodney & Scooter), James Worthy, Ron Harper, Xavier McDaniel, Johnny Dawkins, Ken (Mouse) McFadden, Jerome Lane, Nate Blackwell, Mark Macon...we can do this all day like we're at a sports bar.
RIP Len Bias
Landover north Western stand up rip pg county legend
Best games were those MD Ga Tech games back in Bias time. Mark Price and Bias werr so fun to watch.
I forgot the days no shot clock .wow and no 3 point line
If Len Bias and Reggie Lewis would have lived , and Larry Bird's back would not have gotten messed up , who knows how many championships the Celtics would've won !
The story isn't written with if or but unfortunately
That's not necessarily true. Bird's back already was starting to have problems by 1986 and it's impossible to know how good Bias would've been in the pros, especially if he would've developed a drug habit. By the time Lewis died Bird was retired. The Lakers and Pistons were both great all time teams and the Celtics probably got everything they could out of their era.
Even if Bias & Lewis didn't add any length to the careers of Bird, McHale... Boston would have rolled on to a few more titles in the late 80's to early 90's. Lakers wouldn't have kept up - they were done with titles in '88 anyway; Pistons never would've gotten to the finals, & Bulls would've had to wait even longer.
it would have been a lot. with bias coming in bird and mchale could have been relieved of playing 40 minutes a night. KC Jones had a big problem letting young guys "come up" though. Sam Vincent rotted on the bench when if you think about it- Vincent, Bias, Lewis could have been a "bench team" speed juggernaut. and Vincent could have helped preserve DJ too.
but would KC have let them play? Bias was too good not to play, especially with McHale's nevicular fracture. McHale doesn't even walk normally to this day. these guys let it all hang out for years and years past their prime. sad to watch but they were so good that as a hardcore Celts fan they still got you thinking they could win it all. which they could if it wasn't for those 82 games before you started over.....
brian houle
If,if, if.... if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. But, to bad we were not able to see them grow in the NBA. Bummer.
Len Bias and Larry Bird would have been incredible.
BIAS Was The Only Man That I Barely Knew That I Actually Caught A Tear For When He Died. I Got To Scrimmage And Play Against LEN And His Brother JAY, Who Got MURDERED In PG County, At The U of Md. Summer Basketball Camps. LEN Was A Down To Earth Dude, He Treated Me With RESPECT And Didn't Carry Himself Like His Shi_ Didn't STINK. RIP LEN 😣💯
THANKS For This UPLOAD You Are The MVP SON. This Video Quality Is One Of Best I've Seen FROM This ERA. 👏💯👏
This is some quality basketball, better than current NBA. Can't believe how bad things have gotten, that old college basketball was far far better. Only part that sucks is the end because there is no shot clock, and they just wast time, just like they do in soccer still.
Less skills including passing and shooting. Not sure how you say this was better basketball by any single metric
Bias was James Worthy a top 50 all time player, Boston would have been so good it's scary as the 1985-86 team was arguably (along with 1987 LAL and 1996 Bulls) the most talented of all time then drafted Bias.
Bias was even better than Worthy & that's saying a lot.
tubewatcher38 wasn't better than David robinson
dominican764 I mean Brad Daugherty was better than him, of course David Robinson was better 😂
Akeem ran like that
that 87 Finals would've looked a lot different had the C's had Bias
I cried after this game. (Listened to it on radio.)
Robinson had 22 pts, 8 Reb, Bias had 20 pts, 8 Reb. But Maryland just had a better all around team.
Good ole' channel 11 WBAL back when Vince Bagli was doing sports. John Saunders was across the way on WMAR channel 2...great upload...
Len Bias elevation off the floor at 14:13 was ridiculous!
That is a replay... I didn't see when it actually happened in the game...
When people compare anyone to Jordan, I laugh because Jordan was and is the best to ever play the game (Bird said it too). Bias really was in Jordan's league. Actually bigger and stronger. His game reminds me of Bernard King.
The nba rivalry that never was, mj vs bias
1hour shot clock violation
da frak 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol glad they changed that
Coaching by Navy down the stretch was deplorable.
Thanks didnt get to see the admiral in the 80s much no cable or internet then
Nobody gonna talk about the classic music and commentary ?
Come on, you know the NC coach held back Jordan. Still, Jordan did better in a team concept which helped him in the NBA. MJ's coach is said to be the only guy that kept Jordan under 20. Hey Marvin, no doubt Len was a beast. He might have been a bigger, stronger version of Jordan. Certainly, a terrific physical specimen. Just a damn shame his judgement was not as good as his basketball. We Hoopers are still sad over his needless death. Lenny's death makes no sense. He might have been murdered. He had enough drugs in him to kill a bull elephant. Assuming he survived then what? If he had that kind of habit, he would not have lasted on the Celtics for long. Proof we need leaders not followers to work+play and stand for something bigger than themselves.
da fuck, Doug Collins (2:18) had straight hair!?
a black man rising right in front of navy midshipmen. bias was the best when he had the ball, and he passed it as well, just that Jordan was more media-ready and Bias didn't channel his energy towards that aspect of showmanship, but 1 can see he would dose off even when playing like in this game where he is just stuck in the paint. as he gets tired he's just moving around trying to help the team..but miraculously even 30 years later. HE WOULD MAke PLAYS from nothing. Jordan had a plan to execute. but bias watched nd attacked . he was tired nd should of slowed down but being young black in America during the cold war. was too much for one being to save the world from international struggles. they set him up fail. R.I.P Len
Shut up stupid
Watching these classic games, I forget that we didn't have the 3-point line until the late 80s. Also, I love the camera angle of this game. Wow. Great view of both offensive and defensive systems.
Bias could have been great.
I would go so far as to say that at this point in their lives, Len Bias was easily better than Jordan. No contest. However, you have to remember that Jordan was nowhere near his prime until he hit the NBA. I've watched several full games of Jordan as a Tar Heel and it's a very pale shadow of the Jordan we see in the NBA.
He wasn't better David Robinson!
Bias wasn’t better than Jordan’s college teammate Daugherty 😂
never seen young David Robinson---we learn he was a math major!
he's quite short then,by 2 inches
When they called flipping back in those days I'm positive it was referring to the shorts
Fun fact: most teams played a box in one or triangle in two vs the Terps.
Hilarious, I've never seen Doug Collins as a young guy before. Watch David Robinson after shot blocks run the floor on the break. It's insane, almost gazelle like. I've only ever seen one big run like that and that was a young Rasheed Wallace on UNC. Bias would've been successful in the league on athleticism and strength alone. Kind of hard to compare him to anybody though. Haha he definitely had the NBA flop down at 31:51 as I was writing this.
2:00 Testudo and Bill the Goat both look pretty content in those logos there.
I also like the alternate version of Testudo standing on the M and holding the Maryland state flag in his left hand as well as the early to mid 80's logo.
So when was the 3 point line and shot clock introduced?
kenerry 45 sec shot clock in 1986, 3pt line 1987
I literally dozed off when they started playing hot potatoe. Thank god I was born after the shotclock was added.
Very very patient...
Magic and Jordan would have had their asses handed to them a few more if Bias/Lewis didn’t die and if Sabonis
moved West when he was young and healthy
Had Bias lived would he have been on the 92 dream team????
I think so, he probably would have taken Bird's spot
@@grizkrelez nooooooooooo......
10000%
Len bias was the 80's lebron
The music tho lol xD
Air Espenilla love it! Lol
The Axel F song is perfect for the times.
Len Bias
That Navy coach must've came in on the "short bus."
What if?
Robinson and 4 accountant's
ok I get it, just get the ball to d robinson coach!
I strongly think that Robinson would've scored a lot more had he been given enough room to operate. His team mates just kept running at him!
It's better to be kind than correct some times you are wise
frosty was the man his game and jumper was better than mike
Players look lost without the three ponits line. Or is it just my imagination?
So obviously there was no shot clock back then
Who ever said that len bias was better than jordan is crazy as fuck....i'll give it to him they were evenly matched in college but michael was the greatest
Yeah MJ couldn't shoot well in college, added that shot later did him wonders.
+King LeMelo He could shoot well in college.
+Yavin Johnson bias had a jump shot in college, jordan didn't.
Léon Blas...
What kind of floor is that? Looks like one of those awful manufactures surfaces that ruin your knees.
And Bias hit the boards and blocked shots...Jordan WAS NOT that complete in college
Marvin Hagler
Bull, watch some film and make a informed opinion. Watch the tube game of Maryland -NC. Jordan played forward with Kenny Smith as a guard. MJ played D, obtained steals, key rebounds and played a sound overall complete game.
James Bowser I GREW UP watching BIAS ..LIVE and jordan...im over 45...Bias wad COMPLETE before STREAKY m.jordan...
To all you young people. The only reason Michael Jordan elevated his game to greatness was because of his Sneaker Contract with Nike.
It stipulated Jordan must win Rookie of the year, make the All Star Team every year, score at least 20 points every night, and win an MVP withing 3 yrs in order for him to have a say on how his sneaker will be made and to recieve his 100000 dollar a yr deal.
Waqas Ahmed he played good because of sneakers...lol. Mj was great because of skill. I actually watched that era. He was that good.
bias played not better than david robinson in this game?
As a David Robinson fan, it's disappointing to see a terrible coach and team choke and be dumb about strategy (you let 3 minutes of 2nd half clock go by after choking by not being able to handle full-court press!? Foul right away and get those lobs into D-Rob stupid Coach!!!), but as an Army fan ... ha, ha! As usual, the navy is dumb (look at the recent handling of COVID-19 on the USS Roosevelt)
Bias was better than Jordan
+Maurice Palmer ......
Bias better than Jordan! Please!! Lefty let Bias and Branch run loose but Dean Smith kept MJ under wraps at NC. No way would Bias have ever been turned loose with a Celtics team of Bird, McHale, Parish etc
+cschoen100 put some respek on his name
Bias wasn't better than Robinson, how was he going to better than Mikey!
Bias was better than Robinson, an equal athlete, and more skilled at everything. If not for the drugs, he would have played about twenty minutes a game as a rookie, spelling both Bird and McHale, and prolonging both of their careers. But the decision to take drugs ruined all of that, and I was never a Celtic fan. That 1986 draft was an ill-fated one, drug problem children Chris Washburn, Roy Tarpley, and William Bedford. Including Bias these were 4 of the first 7 players chosen, the 2nd and 3rd , and 6th and 7th. Two other players in that first round were Brad Sellers by the Bulls, where it is said that Jordan ruined his self-confidence, and John "Hot Plate" Williams by Washington with the 12th pick. He ate himself out of the league, although a wonderful player, and highly skilled for a man who was 6'9" and 275lbs. And I include dribbling and the passing in those skills.
Keith Galtin was a major disappointment in college
Refs whos so bad lol
Wow pass pass pass get nothing done...take an f'ing shot for crying out loud!
Amazing isn't it? Imaging such a defence against the Golden State Warriors. Staggering to see how many apparently good shots are being passed up.