looking back at it, eternal difficulty is definitely a good call rather than putting beyond difficulty on every chart in existence because hardcore players might complain the future chart is """"""""""undercharted""""""""""
Actually, that is a great idea after all. Saving the most gimmicky charts in BYD for hardcore players, while using FTR as a bridge for newbies, plus the fact that you don't have to grind for something that is considered """"""undercharted"""""", it's a clever update ngl. Though I am confused as to why is ETR as a beginner update if this is the direction they're going for.
@@MangInutil It's probably cus of what you just said, it allows newer players to enjoy future difficulties while more experienced players can play the eternal ones. Though it also might be able to help players with moving up in difficulty by using familiar songs they already know some rhythms to first. That definitely doesn't apply to a damn 10.9, but it does apply to 8s/8+s/9s
I knew that there's going to be slow speed, but I never thought they would add those slams+crosshand combo. I'm gonna be surprised if people aren't going to hate this chart considering how divisive they are on CHAOS and II
@@frankie391 I actually quite like the ideas used in CHAOS and II even though they don’t play that well, and I’m not very good on them either I agree that the slams and crosshands in this chart play better than I expected them to be though
0:46 i dont know if this is intentional, but from here all the way to 1:03, the seemingly evil jacks are non-existence, just treat it as if you're just playing soundwitch (or technically speaking, it's the infamous alternating pattern) and all of a sudden it becomes a 10
@@jarjarv6568 future now acts like a intermediate difficulty between HD and IN this chart looks more like the IN chart than the AT chart that's why this song needs a BYD also
@@bruhbro1181 Lowiro doing above 10+ on collab songs is just a dream, and Distorted Fate having BYD 11+ would make it much harder than Phigros's AT one.
I feel like it could’ve benefitted from more gimmicky or technical patterns (4 holds, more speed changes, evil crosshands) or more visual substance (other than the cool parts at the start), something more unique. still a great chart anyways and a banger song so can’t be disappointed!
I’m conflicted bc the charting is good, I just wonder if it could’ve been more creative and technical to fit the weird vibes of the song🙏 I think newer 10+ charts usually have something that makes them stand out but this one is kinda standard
Eternal is basically ftr. They made it just so they can make medium charts for less skilled players on the high difficulty songs. That's why it's listed with ftr and not an extra difficulty like byd.
Can someone explain what ETR difficulty is compare to others? I still don't get it even now. Is it harder than FTR or easier? Or between FTR and BYD? I don't get it
ETR are for making charts with FTR patterns without relying on gimmicks, like on BYD charting Every ETRs have been harder than their FTR counterpart so far, but it's plausible we'll get an easier ETR in the future on a preexisting song
@@뉴던 That's weird. I didn't recall any requirements needed other than just unlocking with fragments. What does clearing Halcyon have to do with unlocking DF etr tho?
This feels severely undercharted imo, especially since it's supposed to be a 10.9. It also lacks any 4 holds/taps, taking in consideration both the original chart and the fact that Fracture Ray, which usually gets compared with Distorted Fate, has a 4 hold in the chart. The fact that Phigros exists in Arcaea is indeed a miracle, but if it does, I kind of expect it to exceed some expectations, especially with all the hype that it would create... Everyone can have different opinions tho.
Honestly the ending was under charted. I thought eternal was like a bridge between future and present, so charters can make difficult charts while less experienced players can still have a future chart to play. And yet, Toaster still nerfed it to the ground, he doesn't have to hold back
This song DEFINITELY needs a beyond 11(which right now is only fanmade and not official). The eternal difficulty won't be enough to complete this mapset as toaster was holding back on this chart. The beyond should have much more sky/floor tap notes with tons of trills and jacks and a rotating 4 hold arcs at the end, which somewhat resembles AT 16 chart in Phigros
I feel like with level 12 being the new hardest difficulty, we are starting to see level 11 more frequently. Perhaps soon, we'll see lowiro casually dropping more level 11 without much presentation.
I'm honestly disappointed with this chart - no even triple notes, no references to phigros chart, not very hard either for a 10+ when compared to Lamia, Temptation, Teravolt, Misdeed or Primitive Lights. I should've bought Phigros pack in Paradigm;Reboot instead, it also has Distorted Fate
First of all, I think it's very wrong to say there's no references to the Phigros chart, I think you can notice easily the references, and if you don't, you probably haven't even played DF in phigros. Second, because there aren't triple notes or more it doesn't mean the chart is bad, I agree that the chart needed some 4 holds but because it doesn't have them, it doesn't make the chart instantly bad, I actually enjoy playing the chart. Third, I also agree that it isn't that hard to be a 10.9, but still because it isn't as hard as you want (I guess you wanted a 11) it doesn't mean the chart is bad I think the main issue here is that people overhypes things making promises that nobody has said, we could've gotten a 10 for DF and instead we got a 10+, and that is enough for me imo
@@marinang. I guess the reason people are overhyped on this is because many people thought that DF in Phigros felt like an 11 (like SAIKYO STRONGER) in Arcaea's standards due to the use of multi-finger gimmicks. But because that this is an ETR chart, where relying on gimmicks is avoided so it can be used for BYD, it wound up feeling "empty" to some. Also, when lowiro did use 2 boss songs and made 10+ charts feel like an 11 with gimmicks, almost half of the people were upset that it's overcharted. Like c'mon, what do we want at this point..?
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TOASTER IS BACK WITH 10+!!!
0:11 I love this
1:48 I think KYOREN was a practice of this arc..
0:29 I love it when sky notes flickering themselves.
looking back at it, eternal difficulty is definitely a good call rather than putting
beyond difficulty on every chart in existence because hardcore players might complain the future chart is """"""""""undercharted""""""""""
Actually, that is a great idea after all. Saving the most gimmicky charts in BYD for hardcore players, while using FTR as a bridge for newbies, plus the fact that you don't have to grind for something that is considered """"""undercharted"""""", it's a clever update ngl. Though I am confused as to why is ETR as a beginner update if this is the direction they're going for.
I actually wasn't a fan of the etr when the announcement came out but I have to say I have changed my mind. They executed it very well
Personally I'm hoping to see more ETRs added for old songs instead but they're still nice
@@MangInutil It's probably cus of what you just said, it allows newer players to enjoy future difficulties while more experienced players can play the eternal ones.
Though it also might be able to help players with moving up in difficulty by using familiar songs they already know some rhythms to first. That definitely doesn't apply to a damn 10.9, but it does apply to 8s/8+s/9s
@@MangInutil you literally explained why ETR is a beginner update
I knew that there's going to be slow speed, but I never thought they would add those slams+crosshand combo. I'm gonna be surprised if people aren't going to hate this chart considering how divisive they are on CHAOS and II
the slams and crosshands are, to my surprise, not as cancerous as the cytus charts
@@frankie391 I actually quite like the ideas used in CHAOS and II even though they don’t play that well, and I’m not very good on them either
I agree that the slams and crosshands in this chart play better than I expected them to be though
The return of the Toast. 🙏
I love Sakuzyo's music so much❤
0:46 i dont know if this is intentional, but from here all the way to 1:03, the seemingly evil jacks are non-existence, just treat it as if you're just playing soundwitch (or technically speaking, it's the infamous alternating pattern) and all of a sudden it becomes a 10
Thats... 🤔 I'm gonna try this tips later. Thanks👍
Those arent even hard????? The jacks near the end are the real problem. I even press too fast on those rly slow jacks
@@fsn747 that is why maintaining stamina is the top priority to deal with the final parts, this is the ideal spot and method to maintain your stamina
@@gdtargetvn2418 Wdym stamina this chart isnt remotely tiring
@@fsn747 stamina in the second half is more tiring
You know what? Toaster absolutely nailed it.
9/10 from me (1 minus point for no 4 finger patterns)
Agree, DF chart is not perfect without 4 point push
@@elaina379 the final 4 hold is the trademark for DF, can't believe they removed that
Toaster nailed it 🔥🔥🔥 good decision to not put 4 holds since it would feel too forced imo.
4 holds can be saved for beyond
(distorted fate BYD 11+)
@@bruhbro1181Phigros only has 4 difficulties.
@@jarjarv6568 future now acts like a intermediate difficulty between HD and IN
this chart looks more like the IN chart than the AT chart
that's why this song needs a BYD also
@@bruhbro1181 Lowiro doing above 10+ on collab songs is just a dream, and Distorted Fate having BYD 11+ would make it much harder than Phigros's AT one.
@@diajika saikyo stronger crying in the corner because everyone forgot about it
I don't know how to explain it but this chart feels a bit "empty"
Second half kinda feels undercharted, maybe Toaster was holding back
Still very fun tho, ngl
Yup, i don’t feel like this is a 10+. Kinda easy
It's "ETERNAL" it's supposed to be for newbies that wanted to experience harder charts
@@tripham9435and its 10.9, yet it feels easier than singularity
@@blackpictureyt7611it has nothing to do with that
PHIGROS x ARCAEA when?🔥
Yes, finally!!
man they nailed the refferences
it's kinda missing a four hold tho if you think about how many the original had😂😅
Also, it feels like Toaster held back on the charting ngl
@@renka-chan9213 Right i didn't even think about that
it charted by toaster and my hands don't hurt!? i thought this was imppssible!
Held back just incase they add in a beyond later.
@@Sam_Hue very low prob it's already a 10+ and i don't think they will make another 10+ byd
@@LelouchViBritania0904 highest difficulty is now 12, they're now free to add in BYD 11s for songs like this
I feel like it could’ve benefitted from more gimmicky or technical patterns (4 holds, more speed changes, evil crosshands) or more visual substance (other than the cool parts at the start), something more unique. still a great chart anyways and a banger song so can’t be disappointed!
I’m conflicted bc the charting is good, I just wonder if it could’ve been more creative and technical to fit the weird vibes of the song🙏 I think newer 10+ charts usually have something that makes them stand out but this one is kinda standard
@@Kelpoflakey I had a feeling that toaster was holding back while charting....
@@renka-chan9213feel like they had to. 11 is reserved only for Arcaea exclusive boss songs.
@@misalignedmisanthropistthat is true, but even so I feel like this chart could’ve been pushed further since it’s not nearly as hard as other 10.9s
@@misalignedmisanthropist Desive is harder than Distorted Fate and it's also a 10+ so...
Seems to focus more on the melodic synth in the song, like the two divisive charts
I'm kinda disappointed the last part didn't spam the one hand double taps like in phigros, but overall it's really fun chart
This song gameplay would be epic if you use tempest tairitsu 👀
Eternal 10+ already!?
Eternal is basically ftr. They made it just so they can make medium charts for less skilled players on the high difficulty songs. That's why it's listed with ftr and not an extra difficulty like byd.
Can someone explain what ETR difficulty is compare to others? I still don't get it even now. Is it harder than FTR or easier? Or between FTR and BYD? I don't get it
ETR are for making charts with FTR patterns without relying on gimmicks, like on BYD charting
Every ETRs have been harder than their FTR counterpart so far, but it's plausible we'll get an easier ETR in the future on a preexisting song
@@sica2740 ETR = old future, because future has been nerfed
I am conflicted about this chart, maybe im just used to the difficulty of this song on phigros.
Agree 💔
출근해서 일하다가 잠시 쉬는시간에 아르케아 할랬더니 업뎃하래서 업뎃하고 바로 플레이했네요😊
Good chart, but I consider more gimmick for this
How can I unlock eternal 10+?
I cleared halcyon ftr(10+) but I can’t unlock it.
Is there anything else to do to unlock this level?
You just need fragments to unlock it
@@affin1176I have enough fragments
But I can’t meet the qualificaion.
@@뉴던 That's weird. I didn't recall any requirements needed other than just unlocking with fragments. What does clearing Halcyon have to do with unlocking DF etr tho?
@@affin1176 it says i have to clear one 10+level or ten 10level to unlock df etr.
@@affin1176 I cleared halcyon cause it’s 10+
Chart really looks inspired from phigros
It should have been 11 tbh, i love this chart but it gets easy after playing few times
oh Sh*t
This feels severely undercharted imo, especially since it's supposed to be a 10.9. It also lacks any 4 holds/taps, taking in consideration both the original chart and the fact that Fracture Ray, which usually gets compared with Distorted Fate, has a 4 hold in the chart. The fact that Phigros exists in Arcaea is indeed a miracle, but if it does, I kind of expect it to exceed some expectations, especially with all the hype that it would create...
Everyone can have different opinions tho.
0:29 Metamorphosism
요즘 따닥이 많이 넣네...
Honestly the ending was under charted. I thought eternal was like a bridge between future and present, so charters can make difficult charts while less experienced players can still have a future chart to play. And yet, Toaster still nerfed it to the ground, he doesn't have to hold back
WHERE IS FTR/ETR 11+????? They did my boi dirty 😢
cry about it
This song DEFINITELY needs a beyond 11(which right now is only fanmade and not official). The eternal difficulty won't be enough to complete this mapset as toaster was holding back on this chart. The beyond should have much more sky/floor tap notes with tons of trills and jacks and a rotating 4 hold arcs at the end, which somewhat resembles AT 16 chart in Phigros
lowiro doesn't do 11 outside of Main storys and rarely in side storys
@@LelouchViBritania0904 Saikyo Stronger
@@asdftacomaster5168 ohhh right why do i allways forget that was a collab😅
but it's still an original song tho
@@asdftacomaster5168 it doesn't really count as it is an arcaea original + tano*c ""pack""
I feel like with level 12 being the new hardest difficulty, we are starting to see level 11 more frequently. Perhaps soon, we'll see lowiro casually dropping more level 11 without much presentation.
最恶心的一集
I'm honestly disappointed with this chart - no even triple notes, no references to phigros chart, not very hard either for a 10+ when compared to Lamia, Temptation, Teravolt, Misdeed or Primitive Lights. I should've bought Phigros pack in Paradigm;Reboot instead, it also has Distorted Fate
First of all, I think it's very wrong to say there's no references to the Phigros chart, I think you can notice easily the references, and if you don't, you probably haven't even played DF in phigros. Second, because there aren't triple notes or more it doesn't mean the chart is bad, I agree that the chart needed some 4 holds but because it doesn't have them, it doesn't make the chart instantly bad, I actually enjoy playing the chart. Third, I also agree that it isn't that hard to be a 10.9, but still because it isn't as hard as you want (I guess you wanted a 11) it doesn't mean the chart is bad
I think the main issue here is that people overhypes things making promises that nobody has said, we could've gotten a 10 for DF and instead we got a 10+, and that is enough for me imo
@@marinang. I guess the reason people are overhyped on this is because many people thought that DF in Phigros felt like an 11 (like SAIKYO STRONGER) in Arcaea's standards due to the use of multi-finger gimmicks. But because that this is an ETR chart, where relying on gimmicks is avoided so it can be used for BYD, it wound up feeling "empty" to some.
Also, when lowiro did use 2 boss songs and made 10+ charts feel like an 11 with gimmicks, almost half of the people were upset that it's overcharted. Like c'mon, what do we want at this point..?