EG vs ELEPHANT - TI10 PLAYOFFS NA vs CHINA - THE INTERNATIONAL 10 DOTA 2
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Evil Geniuses vs ELEPHANT - TI10 PLAYOFFS ELIMINATION - THE INTERNATIONAL 10 DOTA 2
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You hate to see such a star filled roster like Elephant got eliminated, but Iceiceice is on fire this game. Haven't seen such a scary Nightstalker for a while.
true. i even want OG vs Elephant/LGD in the finals but i guess both teams gonna exit early. lol
@@trinkhiratekh8334 too bad OG will go to airport soon
Let's see about that@@christianvega1076
You are right. I also have some good expectatiton for elephant, but maybe they got eliminated bcoz they are bad from the start? They got 8th in the group stage. I still dont get it why they are so bad in this TI. Is it bcoz coach rotk? Idk
Og got there tickets booked back home,
I thought it’d be og vs lgd in the finals . But now Eg vs Ig would be fun to watch
Its a good idea to use an agressive offlaner for EG. Cause the enemy team would throw everything to EG’s carry and after that their offlaner could just swiped them all off.
Ye , ice need hero like this more rather than setup offlaner . So he can carry the game by himself
Oh yea. Especially that their offlaner is iceiceice. They need a draft like that.
Plus the Greedy plus Damage of Cr1t ET, really pays off
@@AlwiG but bulba ....
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I feel bad for FY he was a top 10 player in ti8 and ti9, now he got eliminated so early
Massive kudos to Bulba on giving iceiceice a hero that can actually make a play,,, hopefully Abed will take a hero that is not a spirit.
Wait until he chokes again
@@Jaded21121 😂
He has not much choice besides spirits and puck. His other heroes are greedy mids, Meepo is usually respect ban for Abed.
Time for earth spirit?
He doesn't have a choice. When you play with rtz you are bound to use heroes that make plays instead of farming
ROTK cornered his team when he took that Silencer and EG's last pick Nightstalker was on point. I don't think you can overstate just how well Iceiceice understood his role in this game, really good execution he was running at heroes all the time and that made the game really one-sided.
Exactly. That night stalker is so good. He played his role very well, he was everywhere, until he became a monster. You also see at 12:27, he challenge sven with god strength to a duel. Damn.
@@jaylynsacrez4450 Basic iceiceice
Silencer too op since he silence everyone include himself..hahaha
iceiceice still the best SEA player of all time
iceiceice is ROTK's disciple?
gotta admit, iceiceice really stepped up in this game. He's the mvp of this game imho
Indeed. I watch this live and He is like everywhere lol
@@FauzanR7 not even everywhere, but also reading every gank around him, so incredible
give him any good offlane heroes and he will crush it...dont just gave him lycan and tide
Lulba draft holding him
Yep, he made somnus' storm look bad.
RTZ being the big magnet to all the spells and items being used by Elephant to burst him down just won them the game. After RTZ dies, no spells and items are left for Elephant to keep on fighting.
I thino you mean Abed lmao
I think they can caculate it, they chinese
Aren't abed the one who takes all the spell damage plus God strength.
@@uglyme9411 its either abed or rtz. In early-mid fight most of the spell throwed to abed and in the last 2 wars they throw it to rtz
@@uglyme9411 did you even watch the game? 3-4 Ults dropped just to kill rtz
I just want to thanks the team draft and giving iceiceice aggressive hero that he can finally shine. Elephant played ok but EG finally back to its Animajor form. They fought well for rosh and teamfights finally and rtz not choking finally and bringing something to the fight makes them finally in the right form to be a dark horse...
Yea finally some decent draft. Wouldn’t call them dark horse though, shudda been one of the favourite with pretty muc all star players but were underachieving
elephant played so shit lol. both draft and gameplay.
@@BHWBHW100 add the decent Game play and execution by EG. probably that draft is in favor for elephant.
U sure bout Elephant played OK? I hope we watched the same match cuz elephant played like shit and they honestly deserved to lose after playing like that
@@NKeise elephant hadn’t been the best team coming into TI. I’m just sad fy is in such a team
EG did really well when they are not playin around RTZ.
And I just remembered ROTK lost to RTZ Luna when he was on Secret in TI5.
In TI5 round 1 upper bracket, Secret (where RTZ played) lost to Ehome (where ROTK played) with 0:2 and none of the two teams pick luna in all two games. You must remeber things wrong.
@@yanzhuozhoo oh shit, my bad. I remember about the conversation from rtz when he picked Luna for Puppey to win the lower bracket (until they got eliminated). I think the other chinese team were surprised with the Luna pick (because she was never played before)
@@hafidhzuhdi5784 yeah the match you mentioned is btwn Secret and Ig in lower bracket round 2 ti5, where Arteezy picked Luna twice after losing game 1 and made a 2:1 win. That IG team had ChuaN, Faith and Ferrari _430 who were the old IG members which won the TI2 championship against NAVI (Dendi, Puppy...).
@@yanzhuozhoo wow you still remember
i hope you will tell your grandchildren in the future
underrated, they dont need heavy farming on this meta. bkb will destroy support late game which are all paper and no late game fight... they should end early
I feel bad for fy and Maybe. They are up there in my top 10 players od all time. but congrats to EG for getting out of elimination
The 2 of them are certified chokers lol
@@beaniekei8691 I wish I choked as hard as the TWO MOST SUCCESSFUL CHINESE DOTA PLAYERS OF ALL TIME. Lol
@@DrinkWater713 so true. Those are legendary players, and just had a bad season. Crusader try hards can keep calling them chokers, but there’s no lie that they’ve delivered consistent stellar performances for years.
@@allygaterr If you always lose big matches regardless of which team you go to or how great your teammates are, what does that make you? A chinese legend dota player.
Elephant all team member are top tier player in china but when play as a team kinda loose. overconfident
6:02 Somnus was like "Later, fy"
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At this point, Bulba and Fly drafts are more of a concern for EG over their opponents.
Bulba/fly isn't the only one drafting you idiot. In the end it's usually the players that decide who they play
@Lakad Matatag maybe you try to go to a tournament with your friends and feel how the drafting goes on
@@Feisty123 ya majority of pro team does that.
I feel so bad for Somnus and fy. They deserve better than what they are given right now.
All of them deserve to win. But there should only be 1 winner. Hard to predict
They do but this is what they deserve for leaving LGD to create the so called SUPER TEAM.
Karma is real
feels like Elephant not on the same page. They are not playing as a team that's why they get eliminated easily.
We know now, they both are the problem when they are in LGD.
the game JUST ENDED!? How did you do this??? What a game, by the way. Shame they faced off so early. would have loved to see both of these teams go far
edit: also totally agree with others that seeing EG finally draft something more dynamic, especially for iceiceice, was great to see and a total game changer for them
yeah I was rooting for lgd, elephant and eg >.
Both teams played pretty bad, so there is no shame of losing one of them.
Poor somnus went down by 3rd pick
Yep, even in this game. EG looked better, but Elephant made the same mistakes. Somnus and Eurus underperforming, EG sups with the help of NS granted a better map vision and it decided.
he just note the minute of every single fight, that how this channel work
Elephant players are all individually bosses but they dont have synergy together a well deserved loss
It's more than that. It's like they have a team of chokers who can't play their normal game under stress. The individual bosses are notable for having the curse as RTZ in Ti.
yang is pretty good with them i just dont know about super and eurus
@@asdfawesdfsadfadgfeasdf5809 yang played the worst this game lol. His map movement is really bad, his ravages were so bad.
The problem with all star
Yea lot's of ego
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I am a EG fan. But I don't know why I feel sad for Elephant
The post match interview with rOTK broke my heart to pieces. I can feel his frustration from his sighs.
Same here. 3 years ago, this team would meet in upper bracket at semi finals. Now they face at lower bracket at first round 😥
Same, I thought they'd go far this TI
their story to TI is harsh. Disband of TI8 psg.lgd, Somnus and fy form their own team. Sponsor problem with 4AM and they have to buy eurus/paparazzzi with their own money
@@kanade2605 Is there Full Video? for this
Daaaaamn to see Elephant going out so early in the competition is upsetting. Wish I could see them go further I feel bad for somnus and esp fy
I think EG should draft like this after this .. Ice3 would be veryy good to be backup carry in EG if RTZ always been shut down in the game . GG EG !
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Maybe its their game plan heading into TI, making opponent think that Ice would tank the sacrificial pick for most drafts. The value he brings to each fight by foreseeing and making movements to deter enemy setup justifies why EG should design more plays around him rather than the usual pos1/4 setup.
Somnus deserve a better team, really. Sven eat all Luna's ulti damage with his unopened bkb wtf. 5.13
somnus made several mistakes himself :(
No, fy deserve a better team
Maybe paparazzi cant get his full potential at his carry position just like miracle hoping they change their roster next TI
A lot of counter for 3rd pick ss when the last pick went to sven and not outpicked anyone
Man, they all look washed up to me tbh. Somnus looked shaky during group stage, just didnt feel like LGD Somnus. Eurus isn't playing at his best. On top of that is there really no other talented support player than Super in China? He'd be better co-coach or something, not a player.
Overall this team looked very mediocre, nothing special. Even though they're all good and experienced players, this team lacks synergy, teamplay. It's pretty much guaranteed disband, they couldn't win anything whole year and failed at TI. Sad to see my boy FY lose like this :(
Vision is on the side of EG once the night time has come they will hunt their prey and EG drafts has low cd heroes unlike elephant all have a high cd on their heroes skills
Storm and sven damage items got delayed so much because of too many disables of EG, iceiceice could even manage to challenge sven in right click battle with gs on.
Expectation: OG vs Elephant finals
Reality: OG + Elephant airport
I'm happy seeing the improvement of RTZ. Going better and better than before 😊
Hurt to see Fy struggle like this. But the draft was not in their favor, and icex3 is just lmao.
They need more match before play in TI. Hopefully they still together until next year
@@fantasticbaby26l85 they probably will be disband after this ti
@@pessiescobar4707 or roster change
The feel when you play your iceiceice fantasy card... so good
9:54 somnus panicked and pressed bloodstone
Lower bracket games really bring up the best of a team, haha. It’s like a whole new dimension of zone unlocked when your backs are against the wall.
*Massive improvement for EG teamplay here.* ❤️
Nice work on iceiceice. Completely shutting down fy and super
The nightstalker pick is brilliant here and NS just gonna kill the silencer and lion when night time starts
Whats the outro music name
Background sound is very good, makes games more enjoyable. Also Gz EG with win.
This is just EG's strategy, have an average or poor group stage and then tear through the lower bracket... and then come 2nd/3rd.
just like animajor
Damn I thought u gonna say champion but 2 or 3 is more realistic lol
not gonna lie you had me in the first half
Actually smart lol 💸
😂
Are those cheers real? I've read an article somewhere saying that it's fake.
There are no crowd how can it be real people
NS was man of the match. NS currently imba hero
Look at YANG saving his ulti while they are in the clash. Lol he just walking around until he die. He is the only one who didn't pop ULTI. 10:55 and then 11:47 he Bought Back tp bot then use ULTI into 2heroes while his team doesnt have any ULTI. NO SILENCE. Like bruh...
Agree haha
This is so obvious, like wtf are you doing just walking around like a model when your skill is not on cooldown just to be death, smh
You mean silencer? Sorry I don’t know if that yang but you can see silencer ults the moment he was forced staffed away from nightstalker
@@richardvaldez1263 ya he was silenced by disrupt ult and ns
Yes I am like whatt the fuck you doin I tot you are top tier offlaner
In this game we can see rtz buying mid tier item and join fights early. This changes the whole dimension of the game.
is tobi back casting?
Is this elimination round?
Yeah
My god the night stalker...MVP of the team
Loving the FIFA crowds supporting dota too
How I wish this series isn't just best of 1
bruh why fy have to carry this team ?
tide dont even open combat with ravage
storm die back to icex3 every time even known he know 1 silent and he die
sven die while 3 support stand right behind his back and they all know EG are waiting for them
every time they try to catch someone they use every ulti and bkb possible wtf
They have no coordination at all. I think only somnus and fy have some coordination because they played together before. Yang is randomly running around the map without vision and super is just a ranged creep. This team is just not working out, hope they sort it out and replace players/ practice on their communication, it feels so bad to be Fy fan.
why is FY rated so highly? He's never impressed me in any Ti.
@@henli-rw5dw FY was the rubick god from TI8 if I remember correctly
@@samuelhutahaean2537 it's ti5
@@henli-rw5dw maybe, its because only rampage could impress you.
Is there a crowd there?
let's go EG!!! 5 rounds to go to get that 2nd/3rd place finish
and now there going home lel
Holy cow that night stalker. And at 12:27 he even challenge sven with god strength, to a duel. Damn.
Its a gg sign
Did they add fake crowd cheers or are those real shouting ?
Legendary Dota pro player is on action . MVP iceice NS , he is the true play maker in this game .
EG's got the legendary Offlane right now. Iceiceice let's go!!!!!
On paper, I thought Elephant would be the strongest Chinese team.
LGD sir
@@waduheck7860 lol bro elephant on paper is the strongest Chinese team. Somnus paparazzi fy super. All more veteran players compared to lgd players except ame
This is not how it works , 90% of time a full stacked team lose , cuz of chimestry and coordination , the team that wins is the team with the best balance , just take zxemple of the galacticos , brazil 2006 in football , the more the players are stars , the more egos start growing and the less they will sacrifice or try to lower themselves to help others
Interesting thing of BO1: They will play until the throne blow up and no surrendered call.
ICEICEICE !!! big plays. awesome guy.
the crowd is going wild!
The Sven pick wasn’t the way to go. And silencer needed some early to mid item to have impact even just force staff or an atos would have made a big diff in getting people off of NS’s silence. Prolly Lifestealer, Chaos Knight or Naga to play into this line would have been better but yea out played and out drafted in the end. GG EG
That ns was a real nightmare
*Crit picks ET*
Rtz: I hand over my carry duties to you young one
Many great names in Elephant, paparazi,maybe,fy but i think after playing for many years they finally lost motivation.
Instead new and fresh team like IG and PSG are looking sharper and hungrier.
Eurus is paparazi?
@@fakhrulafdal1847 yes. And Somnus is Maybe
Game just ended.
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What if Somnus and FY stayed in LGD?? Eurus and Yang in VG??
Talent / Superteam < Chemistry
GGWP EG
As good as somnus go he and ame cant do chemistry together anymore after they kick ame to CDEC back then.
Sccc Kaka kpii strongest i think
At the top jungle if eurus used bkb earlier things would have been different, sad to see fy go. GG.
He made such a bad call. He saw Luna used ultimate and let the ultimate beam hit him with out bkb. I know he wants to prolong the fight, but it cost the game.
Bad move
Haha, he knows luna has aegis and he cannot extend fight in enemy outpost. So, pressing bk early or lately doesn't matter. They made picks off and out
@@noonetyrgbdedyh if he press bkb, he wouldn’t of lost of all his hp from lunas ultimate. I’m sure he would of live
@@vynatonamikaze4501 yes, but full hp or not there is no way to fight aganist aegis luna + enemy outpost(kill enemy = bb and tp).
@@noonetyrgbdedyh I mean to escape, he can bkb escape.
HOW ARE YOU SO FAST? O_o
The 2nd rosh fight was on point
It was all day ice ice ice that game!
who needs a carry? when you have Iceiceice 🔥
EG will be so great with spec and dawnbreaker strat
feelsbadman for fy and maybe(somnus) they are talented player that deserved an aegis on their profile. The closest year was TI8 , yet some phenomenon just happen as we all know
Is that crowd real or what
wait why its bo1 ?
EG so dominant, Elephant lack of preparation with this rooster.
Tide keeping ulti for next TI
Road to 1 milion 🗿
hurts to see elephant lose. I was really rooting for em. It's just unfortunate that they face eg this early cuz I'm also rooting for eg
The real Balanar is a carry🤩
No one:
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It's still quite worrying for EG. They didn't really change things other than the NS pick. Play style remains largely similar. They still rely on abed space creation, rtz massive farm. Only difference is iceiceice is more active and found success. Feels that it is an easy counter by top tier teams.
All contestants here in ti10 are top tier. This is ti10.
@@uglyme9411 Well yes, this playstyle will be easily read by the rest of the teams. Your point?
@@cnaizhen huh? Seems like you need to learn comprehension. I stated my point. Should I repeat for you? Well then.
All the teams that are part of this ti10 are all top tier.
@@cnaizhen ohh well maybe you didn't get it.. So I will explain. You just said that top tier teams can easily counter thier play styles, but if that is true then elephant should have already done that and won since elephant is considered as a top tier team because they have eurus, fy, yang,sommnus and super.
@@uglyme9411 im referring that other teams can counter it easily now that they see it.
EG fan here but love and respect to the old rotk and gang in elephant. Sad to see them go.
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iceiceice is such a beast in lower bracket . Good game EG
eurus and yang without Dy, pyw/ fade just tier 2 core players
Why wouldn't Tide use ravage at 10:59? He could get it off but walks into static storm instead why
2:21 dudeee
when you try to build a superteam but turn into not really super .. thats what elephant is right now, hopefully they can bounce back and figured out because their roster is too talented to get eliminated early from TI
They need new offlane and carry fr
Audience noise?
TI IS JUST DIFFERENT
No other Dota tournament gets me as hyped as this
feelsbadman to see elephant go out so early...
In pubs Abed hero pool is actually large, he can play Tinker, Invoker, Meepo and many more and some unorthodox mid like Snapfire, why coach let's him pick like that
This is not a pub, its TI and in pubs you can pretty much play for yourself, rtz needs someone who creates a bit of space and abed does that with fast tempo heroes that scale not to farm but fight like the spirits and puck
Wtf is happening to Earth Splitter spell? That thing just killed half-health Sven twice!! Pog
Nothing happen its just that dmg skill is based on max hp and you probably don't know or never use ET
The Pos 5 was Sooooo freaking bad, he didnt clear EG’s high ground vision. Meanwhile his own observers are cleared 90% a time. Good luck playing dota blindfolded.
If you watch the game its hard to place or deward a vision because its dark knowing that eg has whole camp guarded
Its hard to deward since EG got ice3 play balanar that got map advantage all the time
For Pro teams, warding against balanar is quite hard but yeah at least should have make some good high ground vision. But this is TI we talkin about soo
@@Reiggs22 I watched the entire game, just look at highlights @2:15 , The radiant ancient high ground ward and the one below the outpost LAST ALMOST the full duration. Fuck? Its 15min into the game they wasnt even losing yet. You have a Sven farming the entire radiant jungle under vision??
@@michaelbuto305 I watched the entire game, just look at highlights @2:15 , The radiant ancient high ground ward and the one below the outpost LAST ALMOST the full duration. Fuck? Its 15min into the game they wasnt even losing yet. You have a Sven farming the entire radiant jungle under vision??
Crit To Team Elephant: I'm the damage dealer here
Lower is bo1?