😂😂😂 actually MK...why did Floyd go there? Because MK believes that stealing is legit because everything was stolen from them and therefore is justfied. Also how much money was looted from VBS? The bug ones can all be found in the ANC. Listen fall for the anti EFF propaganda if you like but that's what it is. They present the greatest threat to white minority and therefore remain the biggest target. It's so strange every day when Floyd was in EFF we heard vbs and now he's in MK, it crickets.
Thanks for the update. What's scary is that she continues to serve in that department and has direct access to NPA who is busy with investigations into her allegations.
Obviously, it was not a loan but that is almost a red herring at this point. Investing in VBS was illegal in the first place. Getting a 'loan' from a bank you just put state funds in is a blatant violation.
The oyther big question hereis : The coffee shop did not make a profit, so FINANCIALLOSSES OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD... if that was the case.. WHAT DOES HER SARS TAX submissions prove for the period... SECOND .. suffering financial losses for four years , where did she subbenly find +R800 000 to pay the loan back.. needs a deeper investigation..
Her coffeeshop failed, ie she lost the money in total. So where did she come up with the money to repay it, since her mayors salary was soaked up in living costs
When I started my business, there is a bank that denied me loan or rather let me say they simply refused to respond to my business loan application and this was confirmed by my account manager. A business loan is not the same as a home loan. In fact banks will easily give us blacks car and home loans but will only give you a business loan when you have a business already running.
Hi P van wyk, what did the independent lawyer say about Phalaphala and NPA issues 🤔, we really need your passionate reporting on Phalaphala and CR17 please.
@sunnyboykaphioa2782 what's your point? You playing politics. These are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUES. SHE STOLE FROM POOR PEOPLE CYRILS MONEY WAS NOT THE TAXPAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!PUT A SOCK IN YOUR MOUTH!@
The more corrupt the you are in parliament the more protection you will enjoy from the president. Nothing will happen to her,the only thing is she will get a promotion.
Did she sign all her documents as 'Simele' back then, even while still going by her married surname of Nkadimeng? Find other signatures from 2016 and compare.
I’m confused …. She ‘loaned’ the money, she ‘bought’ a coffee shop, and she ‘paid back’ the money. So where did the money come from that she paid back? Is a coffee shop that lucrative? Or does she have a blesser??
As a retired corporate banker, and having spent the last 20 years as a mandated credit functionary, I can honestly say that not once was I ever presented with a photo of a prospective borrower. So, Simelani’s comment that it is difficult for a person who looks like her to get a loan in the South African economy is utter BS.
Thank you Daily Maverick and well done, maybe you must investigate me too🤣🤣🤣I took a loan of R120 000.00 earning for my Mortage Bond Registration House from the Bank, earning only R10 000.00 (Ten Thousand), which is from 1996 and paid it up after i took early retirement on 2015, which means that i paid R120 000 for 19 years plus Huge bank interests and insurance (1996-2015), now Thembi Simelane took a loan of R575 600.00 whilst earning a huge Salary and Huge State Benefits, and paid it up for 4 years, how possible?.
One of the biggest problems in South Africa is justice and the lack of justice in all forms, including social, criminal, economic, and environmental justice, which are all severely lacking, perpetuating cycles of poverty, inequality, and violence. Now we have a Justice Minister, who is embroiled in the VBS saga. Not very good at all!
Slime.....and will always find another corrupt way to get out of accountability! What is wrong with these people!! Do they not have morals? Clearly their moral is to be corrupt to the core!!
So limited is the pool of talented and honest people in South Africa, is that we appoint persons like Simelane to a ministerial position. If I am not mistaken, the minister of justice is 2nd or 3rd in line to the president of the South Africa, in the absence of the president and vice president. Another example is the DA also making questionable appointments. Deeply offending. A sad state of affairs in South Africa.
If I take a loan from a Bank they would want monthly payments, with interest. Please show me where I can get terms where I am allowed to pay back four years later.
Reckless lending comes to mind as i'm sure there is no credit application made which would require a business plan with cashflow forecast. So do a FOIR request for such a credit application (which will be replied to as a null) and thereby you will proof your assertion of the loan agreement being BS.
I have not finished watching this clip yet so perhaps my question is covered. Q - so if she applied to banks for this loan, as she implies she did, then the Banks would have record of these applications, so let's see these applications!!
It’s legal terminology for this article and it could have been confirmed for any reason it maybe,but according to two paying terms and five years later you pay,there might have been some mutual agreement after failing to honor the first legal obligation date
During Apartheid black people were hunted killed by white Afrikaaners just for refusing to be oppressed, in our 30 years of democracy we see black people continued to be hunted, this time using court of laws by the same white Afrikaaner, in the form of DA,Afriforum and P van wyk and many more, how long shall a black person suffer on this injustices. 😢😢😢😢.
@sunnybouksphioa2782 .... my my you can only be a 30%er ... you are so hard-done-by ... at shame what a load of BS you put out there. Foolish idiot is all I can say. Go get educated an maybe you'll learn something ... haha😂
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I'm loving these videos exposing those dirty bastards.
True, but let us not use such words.
@@sobisisibeko2060 What do you prefer? "Lovely" and "hardworking"?
Again, very good work. Well done
She is totally corrupt and rotten to the core. Get rid of her and apoint a person with ethics and integrity.
She is among good company, including Phala Phala Inc.
EFF will soon recruit this one just like they did Mkhwebane. Tsotsi central
😂😂😂 actually MK...why did Floyd go there? Because MK believes that stealing is legit because everything was stolen from them and therefore is justfied.
Also how much money was looted from VBS? The bug ones can all be found in the ANC.
Listen fall for the anti EFF propaganda if you like but that's what it is. They present the greatest threat to white minority and therefore remain the biggest target.
It's so strange every day when Floyd was in EFF we heard vbs and now he's in MK, it crickets.
Eish shes lying. Being a Mayor with a stable income in government, which bank will refuse you a loan???🤪🤪🤪
Trust Pauli to dig up dirt. Thank you for helping us connect the dots. Stay safe 🙏
I love seeing REAL journalists go to work to expose the truth. One of the last and best. Go Pauli.
Thanks for the update. What's scary is that she continues to serve in that department and has direct access to NPA who is busy with investigations into her allegations.
And now we understand why the Phala Phala issue is no longer worthy of further investigation by the NPA.
@@Greg16350 seems the NPA are nothing more than a cover up organization
Fancy using the "african" child phrase...shame on her thief!!!!!!!!
It’s called emotional manipulation. If you were born in South Africa you are an African child irrespective of colour. She is trying to be selective.
She’s such a rich stealing victim.
Obviously, it was not a loan but that is almost a red herring at this point.
Investing in VBS was illegal in the first place. Getting a 'loan' from a bank you just put state funds in is a blatant violation.
These thieves lie with straight faces.. makes one sick 🤮
Just like the democrats in America.
Excellent expose'.
Really appreciate Daily Maverick for being committed to exposing this story👏
Fire her and bring in Glynnis Breytenbach
Fully agree. Yo, no nonsense advocate.
Don't forget she has still a case to answer too, white privilege
Do the business case for the coffee shop - you'll see it was not even possible to make a profit. So the question becomes- what was it really used for?
Brilliantly put, well done to you and your team.
Well done Daily Maverick
You are soooo articulate. Now I know about contract law. Yo, hope I pass.... ❤❤
She needs to be removed by Squirrel now if he wants to retain any credibility.
The oyther big question hereis : The coffee shop did not make a profit, so FINANCIALLOSSES OVER A FOUR YEAR PERIOD... if that was the case.. WHAT DOES HER SARS TAX submissions prove for the period... SECOND .. suffering financial losses for four years , where did she subbenly find +R800 000 to pay the loan back.. needs a deeper investigation..
Great work again pauli, i wish you guys could investigate the thohoyandou municipality, where this story began.
Her coffeeshop failed, ie she lost the money in total. So where did she come up with the money to repay it, since her mayors salary was soaked up in living costs
She is a bold face liar and needs to be fired and criminally prosecuted.
During the court case, one could see the guilt all over her.
Just another one of squirrel's protected, yet useless side kicks....
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Where is the ANC can they pls defend her now she needs to resign with her friends 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
When I started my business, there is a bank that denied me loan or rather let me say they simply refused to respond to my business loan application and this was confirmed by my account manager. A business loan is not the same as a home loan. In fact banks will easily give us blacks car and home loans but will only give you a business loan when you have a business already running.
Presentations like this give hope that the corruption within the ANC is being exposed, and that justice will follow.
Simelane is headed for Shadow Minister of Justice for MK Party, the TRASH HEAP of SA Politics.
Hi P van wyk, what did the independent lawyer say about Phalaphala and NPA issues 🤔, we really need your passionate reporting on Phalaphala and CR17 please.
Yes, PLEASE! There needs to be much more digging done. Don't let it go. Push for answers!!
@sunnyboykaphioa2782 what's your point? You playing politics. These are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUES. SHE STOLE FROM POOR PEOPLE CYRILS MONEY WAS NOT THE TAXPAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!PUT A SOCK IN YOUR MOUTH!@
The more corrupt the you are in parliament the more protection you will enjoy from the president. Nothing will happen to her,the only thing is she will get a promotion.
Appoint Glynnis Breytenbach minister of justice
😂😂😂NPA found Glynis guilty of corruption
Another criminal Glynis 😂😂😂
Glynnis is not innocent, was found deleting information by NPA on corruption case😂😂😂
Your boss lady has got a case to answer, are you out of your stupid mind
Excellent work Pauli, keep on digging the truth will out!
The moment they play “the card” means they are as expected guilty as sin
Did she sign all her documents as 'Simele' back then, even while still going by her married surname of Nkadimeng? Find other signatures from 2016 and compare.
another victim of apartheid .. poor black child
1652
Started by settlers in 1652
@@phumlamazibuko3003 suffering things that others suffered
Always either racists or apartheid.
@@phumlamazibuko3003 Shamepies my racist nunu victim from North Africa
And what will ever happen to JM and FS?
What's the point? Its only crumbs that are left now.
I’m confused ….
She ‘loaned’ the money, she ‘bought’ a coffee shop, and she ‘paid back’ the money.
So where did the money come from that she paid back?
Is a coffee shop that lucrative? Or does she have a blesser??
🤣🤣 you ask me,when the matter came to the fore,all of the sudden her savings came out from nowhere, comrades are very creative, indeed.
As a retired corporate banker, and having spent the last 20 years as a mandated credit functionary, I can honestly say that not once was I ever presented with a photo of a prospective borrower. So, Simelani’s comment that it is difficult for a person who looks like her to get a loan in the South African economy is utter BS.
The "race" card - no matter what 😅😅 People like her will use it into infinity.
But the names describe the borrower. No need for photo. This is about her not everyone
She just needs to do the moral thing and step down!
Unfortunately, there is no morality,the skin is thicker than an elephants skin
why hasnt ramaphosa fired her yet? these sewerage spils will never step down.. they were too dumb to even do the fake agreement properly..
Shocker that the first excuse was the race card.
Throwing it all away for 500 000 only to pay for to years later is crazy business
Thanks for the work you are doing to reveal truth
Thank you Daily Maverick and well done, maybe you must investigate me too🤣🤣🤣I took a loan of R120 000.00 earning for my Mortage Bond Registration House from the Bank, earning only R10 000.00 (Ten Thousand), which is from 1996 and paid it up after i took early retirement on 2015, which means that i paid R120 000 for 19 years plus Huge bank interests and insurance (1996-2015), now Thembi Simelane took a loan of R575 600.00 whilst earning a huge Salary and Huge State Benefits, and paid it up for 4 years, how possible?.
One of the biggest problems in South Africa is justice and the lack of justice in all forms, including social, criminal, economic, and environmental justice, which are all severely lacking, perpetuating cycles of poverty, inequality, and violence. Now we have a Justice Minister, who is embroiled in the VBS saga. Not very good at all!
Maybe a copy sent to the FBI for examination as a "Grey Financial" contract.
keep pushing
Slime.....and will always find another corrupt way to get out of accountability! What is wrong with these people!! Do they not have morals? Clearly their moral is to be corrupt to the core!!
Maimane was alleged to have enjoyed a Steinhoff Toyota Fortuner, why is he not being taken to task?
So limited is the pool of talented and honest people in South Africa, is that we appoint persons like Simelane to a ministerial position. If I am not mistaken, the minister of justice is 2nd or 3rd in line to the president of the South Africa, in the absence of the president and vice president. Another example is the DA also making questionable appointments. Deeply offending. A sad state of affairs in South Africa.
If I take a loan from a Bank they would want monthly payments, with interest. Please show me where I can get terms where I am allowed to pay back four years later.
Reckless lending comes to mind as i'm sure there is no credit application made which would require a business plan with cashflow forecast. So do a FOIR request for such a credit application (which will be replied to as a null) and thereby you will proof your assertion of the loan agreement being BS.
Gundo Investments has now been struck off as a financial services provider. NPA must lay charges against Simelane and she must step aside
Easy, get a discovery warrant and seize Gundo's computers, then do a forensic investigation into when that loan agreement document was created.
It's a job well done my Dears 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Red overall time!
I have not finished watching this clip yet so perhaps my question is covered. Q - so if she applied to banks for this loan, as she implies she did, then the Banks would have record of these applications, so let's see these applications!!
You can't say it appears to be what what, just say it if you are sure of your story
It’s legal terminology for this article and it could have been confirmed for any reason it maybe,but according to two paying terms and five years later you pay,there might have been some mutual agreement after failing to honor the first legal obligation date
During Apartheid black people were hunted killed by white Afrikaaners just for refusing to be oppressed, in our 30 years of democracy we see black people continued to be hunted, this time using court of laws by the same white Afrikaaner, in the form of DA,Afriforum and P van wyk and many more, how long shall a black person suffer on this injustices.
😢😢😢😢.
O a maka wena! Did you drink? Since when is justice an "Afrikaner" thing? You sad because you can't loot anymore?🤔
@sunnybouksphioa2782 .... my my you can only be a 30%er ... you are so hard-done-by ... at shame what a load of BS you put out there. Foolish idiot is all I can say. Go get educated an maybe you'll learn something ... haha😂