The video is still monetized! 👍 Here's a couple of updates/corrections: 1. I'm well aware "hentai" is only used in the West to describe Japanese-created adult works. When I said "no English equivalent to hentai" I meant a word to describe Western-created adult works, not an English word to describe adult works in general. 2. The original creator of the first Ankha animation was minus8, and ZONE's work was based off of that. However, minus8 had a lot of complicated stuff happen to them, and I wasn't sure if they'd even want me to talk about them publicly, so I didn't mention them. 3. The admin of the Paheal website reached out to me, to solve the mystery of where the site's name came from! According to their email "The name "Paheal" came from a tshirt my friend was wearing the day I registered the domain. The shirt had some mage guy from Ragnarok online next to the word "Pa-Heal" which apparently means "Heal, please!" in Tagalog." I have a screenshot of the full email up on twitter if you want to read it: twitter.com/lextorias/status/1750052996069867656
Anyone who didn't get the first point, it's their bad. I read the comment before the point in the video and was expecting something more WAY more vague.
I always pronounced Paheal in my head as "pa-HEAL" with the second syllable stressed. Hearing the first syllable stressed, like it's "PAW heal" sounds so weird to me lol
man, i sincerily just clicked on your vid just to see your opinion quickly and then jump to another ytube video, but here i am congratulating you for that amazing work, i've never saw such charisma, interest and dedication on really making an interesting content, you've won not only a like but an active subscriber
My favorite Overwatch porn moment was when Blizzard went "We encrypted the models for our Overwatch 2 characters! Let's see you try and use them to make porn now!", only for the encryption to be cracked the next day or so.
If there’s one way to get the internet to break your encryption so they don’t make porn of your characters, it’s by taunting them that they can’t do it
The fact that i knew all the female Overwatch characters and their names without ever playing the game says something about its legacy regarding adult media.
I remember the b j game in anime style art (of course) where you are a college girl and to pay for tuition you apply in a glory hole club for quick buck and you have to service men and theirs come out of hole in different, shapes and sizes and if you really good you become famous get more patrons and money. I forgot the name but maybe someone can remind us here. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jerry12314For me it was the Tarzan porn animation (or was it a game?) that was my first interaction with Newgrounds. I was 8 at the time. That was around the time Johnny Rocketfingers had just released.
I remember i used to browse Newgrounds a lot with a friend back in the day as kids. He once dared me to click into the mature section. Trying to be edgy, and thinking we'd find very violent and/or gory animations, i clicked on it. My life changed forever after that.
The "PM Tom" thing is no joke. I once PMed him for a very specific problem I was having, and he replied to me within a day saying he'd fixed it for me. This guy's an absolute legend.
lol when I was about 12 I PMed Tom asking him how he made the website and he really did respond to me not too long after. Young me was surprised because I didn’t really expect a response.
Thanks so much for covering this subject in such an impartial and informative manner! I'm sure people will be referencing your video for many years to come. Ever since my mom accidentally rented me Urotsukidoji instead of Urusei Yatsura when I was way too young, I've never been the same. I have the letters that Nintendo sent me back in 2003 to demand I stop drawing Pokemon porn to prove it ;)
Fancy seeing you pop up. And to think, it's people like you who make me wish I'd not given up on grad school for psychology. For every 10000 soccer mom's frustrated with their husband's obsession with lawn care, sans innuendo, there's one like you. Thanks for being weird.
One of the main reasons I haven’t quit twitter yet is because it’s one of the few social media sites where NSFW media can be freely posted. Not even just r34, if your interests are explicit in any way, it feels like you’re forced to use twitter, risk being banned constantly, or find a subreddit which god knows I’m not doing.
Isn't this like the point of 4chan though? I honestly can't fathom why anyone would post NSFW on normal social media. Then again, I've never understood twitter either.
The funny thing is, while most people remember Shadman's unhinged Guro phase (early on), his way too long Loli phase, or his obsession with farts in general (plus stuff made by others, but hosted by Shad for a long time, like the weird stuff JLullaby made), Shad is actually a quite talented artist when he puts his mind on it.
@@LordNecronthe scariest thing is that most of the most talented artists were motivated to get that good because of their specific & widely taboo fetishes.
@@CaptainCFalcon kinda like how Stanley Kubrick may have been one of the world's best filmmakers in history, but he frequently abused his cast and crew to achieve the perfection he chased.
This is, actually, unironically, really great Internet history. Like, you're really rolling the dice on this even with the censorship. So, thanks for sharing this
RUclips really doesn't like the comments section of this video. 😂 Comments are getting deleted left and right just because people are trying to discuss "adult art".
Shoutout to creators who actually put some characterization and progression through several scenes in the work rather then just flooding the tags with 10sec humping loops.
One thing I will say is that a lot of NSFW content creators ended up contributing to the Blender scene in many ways, such as bug reports, addons, suggestions and even code PRs. In fact, there's even a famous NSFW artist named Mets that was hired and is still to this day working to Blender Corporation, if I'm not mistaken he's the main guy behind CloudRig, he's still active in NSFW communities like Smutbase every now and then, along with other Blender employees as well. Some Blender addons made by people in the NSFW community that I know of are: Simplicage, Bonedynamics, Fluid Painter, MustardSimplify & MustardUi, etc. No breakthrough to be found here, although it's definitely a really big use of Blender
@@willyeeton4390 It originally was a NSFW free addon that was used exactly for what you're thinking lol Free NSFW version still exists, but the guy made a paid SFW version with normal fluids like ketchup, chocolate topping and other food stuff. Seems to be doing well on Blender Market
But NSFW art has also contributed to a lot of problematic depictions of underage characters, sexual assault etc. It also feeds into this very perverse need to sexualize everything especially in genres like anime.
37:29 I love the odd word choice in "whoever is doing the Elizabeth porn on deviantart, please stop it", which makes it sound like there's a single mysterious artist who never sleeps and is just drawing 24/7, somehow singlehandedly flooding DeviantArt with porn. No one knows who they are and we're powerless to stop them. We had such a wholesome and upstanding Christian internet until that person came along... 😔
Fun fact: tody fox told artists to make corn of his characters to boost awaerness of his game. This was at the point were undertale was not well known. For deltarune, he commisioned a character that was designed pretty explicitly to draw attention away from r34 of the main characters. Tasq manager, a dominatrix, cat, robot thing completly failed to do that, as the main characters, expesally raslei, got considerably more. Lesson of the story, carful what you wish for.
@@Alias_Anybody that was more true earlier on. Animal crossing got a lot of adult art because the entire point of the game was to bond earnestly with them and they already could flirt with you. But now R34 artists like more characters that have strong derivatives to conventional concepts that they can mass market + their popularity. What they are as a character, rather than the integrity of the media they belong to.
I'm surprised there was no mention of VanRipper and Helltaker, the guy who wanted to see more hot demon girls in suits, so he made a game and encouraged people to draw r34 of them.
One of the most important but often overlooked rule34 artists you missed, Minus8, actually made the Ankha animation you mentioned originally, then Zone remade their work. It was fine for them to do so, and both artists are awesome, it's just a shame to only mention Zone when Minus8 was also pivotal especially in that particular work and in music themed rule34 in general.
minus8 was in the original version of my script for this video, but with everything that's happened to them online I didn't quite know how to talk about them
@@Lextorias I didn't know what happened and hs, that is complicated. I think the best would've been to just say that Zone remade it without saying the original creator
I started watching this video because haha funny prawn video, but this was a genuinely interesting, well researched, thoughtful look into something that could be considered its own art movement that gets swept under the rug because people are afraid of what the cultural Zeitgeist will think of them, of how others will perceive them even though everyone, yes, literally everyone, has seen smut at some point.
I remember an Economist article from the early 2010s that compared vintage vs modern adult content to steak vs crisps. Can't directly quote, but there was a line about "Now you can just have one after another."
@@InservioLetum Crisps. They were saying adult content used to be more rare, like a pinup or a VHS tape you have to go out and buy. Requiring more effort like a steak. But the quote was saying that with the advent of the internet, you can simply log on, google a phrase, and suddenly find yourself with an entire assortment of adult content at your fingertips. Like opening a bag of crisps.
I think the appreciation for r34 is pretty clear by the types of characters that are often most popular. Quite of few of the personas in the persona series are hyper sexulised, yet they dont get the same attention as the main casts. A lot of that is popularity, but I think that people find it satisfying to see characters in vastly different interpretations while retaining their derivative characteristics. It's exactly because those expressions are so different from their base derivatives, that when an artist can still make it transformative of that character's personality, aesthetics, and characteristics, it gives a greater appreciation for those traits that establish them.
That's basically canaryprimary with aggretsuko for me. They did a way better interpretation of haida's love interests than the show. Sometimes r34 cam show a better interpretation all together.
@@joebest6582 Absolutely. Despite the lewd nature of the animation, some of it - especially the more recent Aggretsuko one - doesn't immediately go straight into the action. It's slow burning, and it honestly shows the relationship between Haida and Fenneko.
@@vikingzeroone9647interesting. Iv also seen alot of backlash of certain characters being lewded like the lady from the show "frienan"? Never seen it but apparently wholesome characters like that getting lewded sparks alot of rage, the response is generally, well don't look, its not for you. Outside of age, do you think every character is free game or are there untouchables
@@justafan-tn4ny Personally, I don't mind it, but I tolerate it in a way like a spectrum - which is to say 90% of the spectrum is all okay with the lewd crap. The only thing I don't like is artists drawing actual people and putting them in sensual situations (I'm looking at you Shad) or de-aging them (again, looking at you Shad, especially with the Keemstar thing. If you know, you know). Apart from that, everything else is free game.
R34 has always been at the forefront of artistic innovation. I remember back in the very early flash days on newgrounds, they always looked over smoothed, like they were running at 64fps. That kind of animation looks really out of place in almost all situations but in the use of s3xual acts. The fluidity, rhythm and smoothness of character actions in those types of animations worked flawlessly. When artists like minus8 and zone started using them for their r34 animations, no one had seen anything quite like it, and it became viral as a result. S3xual art in general is a great way to use artistic techniques that are otherwise underdeveloped in other mediums.
And those skills can pay dividends with safe for work art. If you can animate sex, it's safe to say you can animate fights. Like, look at Balek for instance, who got gigs working with animation companies even while doing pron on the side
@0uttaS1TE that's true. There is a lot of overlap with weighting, tension, releasing, escalation (literally climaxing) between the two. They just highlight those artistic concepts with different framing. Maybe that's partly why fighting games are so horny.
And going back (given that I'm in the first 5 minutes of the video) old Japanese prints had to use tentacles in place of "D!ks" because lewd laws forbade actual "pronz". A law that still exists in Japan today and hence why blurring happens. That law has yet to be repealed. I'm guessing Lex goes into this detail in the vid but I couldn't wait to comment.
Dawg he literally just explained that adult art is a byproduct of digital innovation *not* the other way around _explained in detail by the artists themselves_ Now maybe you are trying to say that adult art and a desire to create more and more niche and esoteric porn popularized and made professional techniques more ubiquitous? Sure. Yeah. But anything you’ve seen a porn artist do I 100% guarantee they got from a non-porn professional. Otherwise they would just be doing that to make money professionally.
Fun furry fact: the first image on e621 is image 13 as 1-12 were test images and removed from the site Great work on researching obscure stuff I didn't know I wanted to know about.
@@LeonelLAURE Nintendo took down Rom sites. Took Dolphin off Steam. Hates mods. For a long time they would copyright strike any gameplay videos on RUclips if the youtuber didn't have permission from Nintendo IIRC, they forbid some fan event related to video games from happening and boy Nintendo has done a lot of other asshole things that I don't know about/don't remmeber
One of the things that makes Rule34 so interesting is how easy it is to get into. Can you write? Got a cheap drawing tablet? Can your PC run Source? Congrats! You're halfway there! It's why Rule 34 is Rule 34, hell it's why fan content is so important. If you love a character or a ship, or disagree with their interpretation in material, or there's not enough of what you want, there is enough documentation, tutorials and free material for you to make it. And chances are good that there'll be fans to watch and bankroll it.
About the only person I've seen making a 1-hour video out of curiosity after encountering a tweet (or in this case, somewhat of a trend). Both your research and writing abilities seem to be levelling up as time goes on. Congrats on the well-done job.
Pyro's popularity is actually very easy to explain imo - they're the only not explicitly male (bc you can't see their face, body and their voice is distorted) playable character in a very popular game and also mask/latex fetishism.
Well, I got to this video through reccomendations so whatever things RUclips might usually do to supress a video like this clearly aren't working. Amazing work by the way. Just subscribed.
honestly, lexitorias' self-censorship skills are top-notch. or rather, filter-avoidance strategies. he could legit do a follow-up video on what his exact focuses were on when editing stuff out.
54:43 It's not just adult content. In this day and age, people assume that all of history will be written down, archived properly, and easily accessible. But most history is lost to time: especially so for this topic.
"Why is it always The Pyro?" I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess: 1) the popularity of gimp suits and latex as fetishes 2) A faceless character is better for projecting onto? 3) All else failing it's funny
had to go tab over to patreon to give this one a proper watch and i'm glad i did! thought you deserved more than just $1 for your effort, so here's this :) this is really important history and i'm glad it's being documented one way or another!! always love your content! keep up the good work!
This video is so well made, subject matter aside. Well-researched, well-written, well-formatted. I never checked how much longer was left in the video. Very excellent job, subscribing specifically for this one
Found this video from a twitter post mocking it, saying they're not spending an hour to watch the history of gooning on the internet. Having spent an hour watching the history of gooning on the internet, gotta say this is pretty great.
I really love documentaries when it brings irony, history, and jokes together. Also, as a man of culture, I thank you for explaining the history of Doujin and how the internet brought culture to the masses.
As a NSFW artist, genuinely, thank you for making this video, so much of this shit is buried and as someone who worked as a "Post master" for quite a few artists. (That being that I schedule posts and did analytics for artists wanting to increase their following. Which I don't do anymore cause I want to peruse my own work.) A lot of this history is lost in a sense because as you said, the platforms and spaces are growing smaller every year, X (Formally twitter), has been the only good high end staying ground for NSFW artist to get a foot hold and start off without being caved in by others in their field. It's rough out there and the motivations to want to make art are so vast and genuinely interesting that writing something down should be some of our priorities, I know I've turned into a bit of an archiver in recent years as I want to try and preserve some history for those who are interested enough to want to know about how some of these things came to be.
Finally someone who thinks like me, you have no idea how much archiving over the years ive done on Rule 34 sites to make sure people's art is archived, the sad fact is a lot of good art is being buried under AI art which is really really disappointing The reason I started doing it was because of places like Tumblr nuking art, hundreds of thousands of artworks where lost and then also when a good friend of mine died i realised a lot of their artworks where not available anymore online so I've been archiving them as well
Someone's gotta do the same with music. Just incase main servers go down from who knows what. That's why I like dvd, VHS, cassettes. The whole shabang. Kinda cool someone's doing it with the sexy stuff. You go man, hope your friend had fun and enjoyed as much as he could.
@@FoxySpartan117 I completely agree, physical media is always important as well as having a real place to put older content, if companies weren't so anti-consumer we would have had something like that already
@@ZootOfficial erotica exist since people draw and write. as does weird religious moralism. there is no proof of harm while religious moralism has an objective mountain of bodies left, from dying women bc abortion isnt available and forcing a child to arry a r.. baby to term has a higher risk of killing her to the thousands innovents burnt and tortured for heresy and such. masturbation is actually healthy.
Now this is the kind of content I want to see more people seriously exploring. Sexuality is an enormous part of human culture and significant in the lives of just about everyone, yet it's considered inappropriate to actually acknowledge or talk about it out of fear of making people uncomfortable? It doesn't make any sense. We should talk about this stuff more. Thank you for this production.
@@EmotionalParaquat714 What a fuckin wild sentence. "I bet you want a virgin sub to dominate, don't you? DON'T YOU!? No one appreciates sexual content without being a sadistic weirdo because sex is immoral!!! I'M BETTER THAN YOU!!!" lol get over yourself.
I think you forgot minus8 in that discussion. He deleted his account because of an incident a few years ago, but he is arguably the single largest influence for r34 on newgrounds. None of the people you mentioned would exist without him.
The original draft of the video included minus8 (the ankhazone video is based on their work, after all) but I didn't know how to talk about them after that
@Lextorias fair enough. He had the largest influence over Nintendo franchises like Mario and AC. Before that, these characters had no real association with the medium, more trolling like the Disney situation.
I stopped the video wholesale when Lex said the Nile video came from Zone. Said "hold up, wasn't that minus8?" Minus8 did some really amazing work. Right up there with RexxCraft before he got confronted by Blizzard Lawyers.
That goddamn tweet has stuck with me for literal years now. It's so cool that such a funny little observation had an impact on someone like you to the point of basing a video around it. Coming from already loving your vids, I can't wait to give this a full watch!
This was really well put together, the respectful way you talk about the medium is 👌, really enjoyed the R34 timeline, was great! and reaching to the OG animators was such a nice cherry on the cake, and oh how I was waiting for you to bring up Overwatch and the well deserved NIER/Yokotoaro namedrop
Also, a small mention to minus8, the flash artist who made the original ankha dance video that Zone made a tribute to, who also made one of the most popular templates for those types of games, an animated character you could choose their position, amount of clothing and speed and also created the genderbent versions of mario enemies, like the shygal
Seriously, thank you for making this video. I've spent so many years being both a degenerate and someone who appreciates the hell out of the quality and work that goes into the stuff made in these spaces, and the history of it that you went over (some of which I was familiar with, some of which was all new to me!) is important. It matters. So thank you for covering this knowing potential issues that might come from doing so!
The artists you interviewed brought up such a good point about the tech already being there, and it made me immediately think that perhaps viewers were just conflating individuals' artistic progress to the progress of the medium as a whole. Because of course individual artists are going to get better the more they get familiar with a tool, and Rule 34 in particular addresses a lot of subjects that are REALLY DIFFICULT to animate convincingly in 3D, so it's a bit of a trial by fire. That will lead to a lot of really innovative uses of existing tech that might make it look like the industry as a whole is growing in stride, but really it's just a lot of really talented folks learning and growing together. Which is just really interesting to me, honestly.
Your research on this topic kind of proves a thing I've been worried about for a long time... death of the Internet. It takes money to maintain servers, copyright strikes exist, people who own content simply die and there may be no one to keep their legacy. If content doesn't generate money, it'll disappear. And the more content gets created, the more content will disappear.
There are two paths we can take, and I think we should take both. One is make more of an effort to preserve the content posted on the internet, at least the most influential ones. The other is to accept the fact that a lot of things just disappear to time and we can't get them back. The biggest example being all those extinct animals that were never fossilized or preserved.
Yea just a little insight on the "Italian Senate incident": The info of the zoom call was posted, publicly, on twitter. The person who made that post, containing the password to join said call was, get ready: Included in the "Pioneers for Internet for reseach in Italy", Recieved a MASTER in IT Security in 2003, was Chief of IT Security for the Universities of Modena and Reggio Emilia (untill 2009) worked (on something) in The Italian Federation of Universities and Research Institutions for Authentication and Authorization (untill 2018) How someone with this "timeline" managed to (ALLEGEDLY) post publicly on twitter the access info to a SENATE Zoom Call should be indelebly etched in history
Adult animator here! I typically operate in the 2D furry space, so seeing the other side of the coin is super fascinating. I got into making it because art programs in general became so accessible that poor teenage me could pick them up and translate my pencil/paper doodling skills to the screen instantly. Piskel and Krita are my tools of choice and I wouldn't be who I am today without them :)
@@henryfleischer404 it doesn't run terribly, but there are a few key bugs that I've noticed while pushing it to its limits. For basic sprite editing it's all anyone needs
Rule 34 takes you on a real internet rollercoaster. It's pretty mind-blowing how anything can be turned into 'adult content.' It's interesting seeing the creative side of people, but it also stirs up some controversy, especially when it comes to morals and ethics. It makes you wonder, what's the fine line between self-expression and crossing some serious boundaries.
The established line is wether it's unrealistic=okay; indistinguishable to a real human or at the expense of a real human's figure=not okay. Still, the okay line is debatable because when is it just a pure fantasy or a genuine urge.
That's actually a very interesting history video, no jokes. It's detailed, filled with "trivia" and relatively digestible. Good one comrade. p.s. At 32:36, the reason why the Pyro (or more specifically FEM Pyro) is so popular, is because in the game the gender of the character is not specified, since you can't see it's face either. Actually, they don't even confirm it's a normal human either. This gives a wide variety of contexts in which you could put it, basically making jt an "everything goes" as long as it's anthropomorphic.
Honourable mention : The Cyberpunk r34 scene, the people from that scene are crazy talented, and not surprinsgly lot of them are from the Mass Effect era. (Rescraft, Rigid3D, Holopointz, Checkpik, Rash Nemain etc)
While SFM is obviously the most important advancement in the advent of 3D I fell a bit missing without the mention of MikuMikuDance or MMD which was released in 2008 and is a dance music video software that was quickly used for adult dance videos and has an active adult animation community to this day
It's an actual miracle the algorithm brought this video to me. As a small time r34 artist I am extremely appreciative you're telling the story of my people.
2:15 Small correction: Adult industry never actively participated in technology development until the rise of streaming platforms. But was pretty much playing the role of kingmaker pretty effectively, when ever there was a format war going on.
Format war: There's a bunch of videos from Technology Connections breaking down the format war between VHS and Betamax where he pointed out that the whole "VHS won because of porn" thing is just entirely untrue, as porn existed on both formats and Sony had no control over what people were distributing on their tapes. (There was a different, much more obscure format that *did* restrict what people were allowed to distribute though, which could be where the whole rumor started.) At least according to him the main reason why VHS won was plain and simply because every step of the way, VHS allowed for longer recordings, which was very handy when a lot of its early appeal was in recording TV programs and especially sports games, since at that time the idea of owning movies to watch on your TV wasn't really a thing yet.
If I had to guess why Pyro specifically was so popular in the early days of sfm Rule 34, it's probably because their model was already easily rippable from TF2 and they don't have a face, which drastically decreased the workload of animating them.
There was an animator called SableServiette who made Zelda BoTW animations that were such high quality that people were sharing snippets of them claiming they were actual in game cutscenes. They were insanely talented, but then Nintendo came along and struck them so hard with a cease a desist they haven’t made anything since.
I thoroughly enjoyed the way you tackled this subject. With adult content it can be so easy to go for the low hanging fruit, bashing on the art and the culture and overall making people feel ashamed of what is naturally a part of the human experience. It's rare we can talk about these things from a mature perspective and appreciate explicit adult content for it's process and what it expresses rather than the dopamine hit you get from rubbing one out to it and how "evil/bad" it is. You aren't the only one who has noticed that adult topics and subjects have sort of regressed in the public opinion, almost to the point of dystopian censorship and to me it feels so disingenuous when people play a moral high ground when bashing this kind of thing. In my opinion the people who fight so desperately to censor or shame the people who create and consume these kinds of adult content are people who themselves cannot control their urges and lack the confidence in their sexuality and their self control to witness these things without losing themselves to it
Unfortunately, the majority is de-facto in the right. No matter what we try to say. They've even got the NPC dialogue options to shutdown the conversation. If you try to argue at all, then you're just labeled as a porn addict or something else with a negative connotation.
when i was straight i used to be in that train, constantly trying to "escape it" but ever since ive become pan, got actual people to vent, and overall just got better in mental health, i honestly just feel like i am now ok with it and honestly its no longer an issue to me, sure its sometimes frustating that i want to do something else but i decide to just go there, but honestly i think no matter what its better to just accept it for what it is (basically being the alcohol of the internet) instead of bashing the people who use it or make it, it just makes you cave deeper to it
@@splitsee2526 alcohol is a very apt comparison. indulging too much can definitely get out of hand and cause a lot of problems, but at the same time shaming people over it just isn't helpful for anyone
This isn't a criticism of you, this comment, or sex positivity. (I am generally sex positive, which is the political movement, not how I feel about sex for myself) Just shouting my thoughts into the void, but like, damn, as an ace person, anytime anyone describes sexual attraction, libido, and/or sex itself as "part of the human experience" or a similar variant, it always feels very isolating A lot of aphobia comes from the position that humans are sexual and to be asexual is to be inhuman or disordered/broken and usually "the human experience" is assumed to be universal (The concept of any universal human experience is a very reductive sentiment and always ends up dehumanizing someone. "What is it to be human?" 99% of your DNA. That's the only inclusive answer but that's another topic on its own) Just very frustrating that a lot of sex positivity is very asexual exclusionary and reaffirms aphobia and sometimes I feel like I'm not welcome (especially because a lot of people who are still de-programming purity culture think I'm somehow a slight against them simply via existing) There are asexual spaces within sex positivity but shit, I wish it wasn't needed Not trying to police your language or anything. Just a specific phrase that called back to memories and shit. Just shouting into the void
This right here is excellent work. It's the kind of thing that I got recommended and thought "oh that's funny lol" but then sat down and watched something more informative and entertaining than I thought possible. Seriously, you deliver what you've got to say very well and you get your emotions, ideas, and information across in a way that's making me think and laugh my ass off in the same second. Keep doing this; thank you for sharing your work and highlighting the works of others.
He is such an oddly sex-positive person. Not odd in any mannerisms or personality, but odd in the sense that openly talking about the subjects he covers usually has a much more lewd tone to it, and he treats it matter-of-factly with no cringe jokes or undertone or disparaging comments. It's nice to hear someone treat this subject seriously, in a way.
Way better than some puritans would've done, I'm tired of finding ytbers saying "ugh" for every art they show. He actually treated this as art, well done.
@@turntqble Whatever you think about it doesnt matter, its still art. By the way you're kinda late for answering lol Also a question, if thats what you think why are you here on this video? Are you having problems with your addiction and started projecting on other people to feel better or what?
That newgrounds policy about having to create all the assets in your videos yourself puzzles me. I remember Newgrounds was filled with sprite animations, which rip their sprites straight from video games. To me, this sounds like the 2d equivalent to using 3d models for your animations.
"Hentai" _is_ the English word for that though, in Japanese it only means a pervert, connotational strength somewhere between "freak" and "sicko." In Japanese everyone generally just uses "ero" or "ecchi" (which has its own complicated and weird history) and then whatever medium, i.e. "ero-manga," "ecchi na e," "ero-anime," etc. These have their own different coverages and ambiguities, such as "ero-hon" referring to both comics/manga and magazines or any other books. I'm not much of an anime watcher, but last season there was an adaptation/spin-off of 16bit Sensation, where English subtitlers went with "hentai" for "ecchi na e" instead of the more literal "sex drawings," because that's just what English speakers call that now, at least when its origin is Japanese. Lextorias is still right that we don't have a common word phrase for all of them in English regardless of origin of course, I just wanted an excuse to dump some linguistic quirks I find amusing.
Every time someone brings up the Italian zoom call thing, there's one massive story that's always missed. After the Tifa vid, the hacker also showed a short clip of a genshin impact char before they were kicked out. Well, word of that got back to the Chinese government, and the artist who created that vid, who was totally unaffiliated with the hack, was fined for tens of thousands of dollars, arrested, and is STILL in jail.
i absolutely mean it when i say that its a shame that people treat this stuff like the taboo of all taboos. yes, it would be innapropriate to just bring up at work or really most situations, but i also dont think it should be treated like the devil himself. the times ive gotten to sit down and genuinely actually learn about this stuff has been so fascinating. not even just the drawn stuff but literally any of it. its like another facet of psychology and i already find that interesting, and mixing it with one of the most creative sides of humanity... idk, its just cool. also a lot of these people make some really impressive art from a technical standpoint? the skill involved is no joke, 2D _and_ 3D. my point is that it sucks that its not documented better, and that it isnt treated with the respect it deserves. which was also the point of the video, but still. as an artist, and as someone who has a lot of thoughts and feelings about the topic, i think the best way i can phrase it for youtube is just that the way things are kinda sucks lol. great video
Having finished this video now, and being someone that is mildly successful creating NSFW artwork both on and off of the internet, I can confidently make a few comments about the reception, criticism of, and business sides of NSFW art creation. First off, most anyone who has done about 10 seconds of research can tell you that 'lewd' artistic creations have literally been around since the beginning of recorded history. That being said, it tends to get hushed up or ignored entirely when by most art historians. I've been through several art/art history classes, enough to have two art degrees, and have barely even heard mention of sex in artwork. I mean, even Andy Warhol, a relatively recent and massively popular artist (considered a celebrity during his lifetime) in our history created an artistic short film called "Blowjob" in 1964; you can probably guess what it was of. However, most people don't know about that because creations that center around sex and sexuality are dismissed as "Pornography" and therefore aren't "real Art." With the boom of Judaism (mostly Christian) over the last couple thousand years, Western society has become largely puritanical. Sex is widely considered taboo, frivolous and a 'base desire,' contradictory to enlightenment. So why would we want to glorify or celebrate it? Unfortunately our political and economical systems are deeply rooted in this mindset and are openly against sex positivity and sex work, despite what they do behind closed doors. That's why we have seen things like OnlyFans cancelling sex-focused content after having issues with bankers (which got reversed eventually after enough outcry), PayPal disabling NSFW artists' accounts (and taking any money left in the account), and most banks outright shunning sex workers, etc. Many people believe that making any kind of adult content is an 'easy way out' or 'selling out' when the entire system is set up to be quite the opposite. But still we create and find ways to express this completely natural part of our existence and sometimes even get lucky enough to get paid doing it. Explicit artwork and creativity (sex work included) is never going away and we should strive to destigmatize it and accept the creators.
Im not particularly for or against sex work or sexuality in terms of how i wish to prescribe my ideal world, but even i can see that we are currently putting ourselves in a cycle where we as a society we hate sex and so never talk abut it which only leads to more issues with sex. I think education is always the key and single most important thing in this world and it's development with sex being no exception, people need to learn about sex and how to engage with sexuality, otherwise we end up with more and more uneducated individuals who never learned proper boundaries around sex or how to talk about their own sexuality and end up causing issues or even potential crimes. This last part might be a bit obscene but even with the whole discourse around sex ed in schools and how people are scared for their children, but in my mind surely the best way to protect kids from being manipulated by a sexual predator is to equip them with the knowledge of what it looks like and how to explicitly avoid it? Often many of those crimes in particular are perpetrated by close family or friends, people who build trust and manipulate a childs naivety and use fear tactics to control them, to me we should be doing everything possible to equip that child with the tools to defend themselves from that behaviour, many predators are weak cowards who ant to abuse children simply because they are so much weaker than them, so part of disarming those people is showing them how little power they have even against someone that vulnerable. Ofcourse this isn't a one size fits all solution but I'm proposing a method of reduction not a total fix to it. I think overall sex positvity gets mis used sometimes by those who lack care for others and end up giving sex a bad name, sex can be highly important and overall sexuality itself is a massive part of our identities, including asexuals who largely go unspoken of in our assumption that everyone must want sex, sex is simply a thing we do and it's a natural process, like anything it can be abused but that shouldn't put the whole thing to shame, and part of improving our engagement with sex is learning about it, doing scientific research and figuring it the fuck out first instead of mindless condemnation with no actual testing to see if we are right or not.
@@sirvaniss judaism and christianity share alot in common, that's why you will often hear the term "judeo-christian values" to highlight the general religious or social beliefs held in alot of western society.
@@sirvaniss Yeah, sorry, I got a little mixed up when editing trying to find better ways to convey my thoughts. Replace "Judaism (mostly Christian)" with Judeo-Christian.
Lol I'm Jewish. Judaism and Christianity are extremely distinct not just in theology but in ethics, practice, history, language, and more. They are not classifiable as one larger "basically the same" religion/ethical system in the same way that Hinduism and Buddhism aren't. Honestly, "Judeo-Islam" is closer to something that actually exists. If you're using the term "Judeo-Christian" you probably just mean European.
I find it really funny that the creators sometimes will laugh about the r34 about their games. but NOTHING will top what Videocult did with Rainworld. Here"s a hint: OF rejected it because "they aren't a real character" Thanks Andrew.
This was an incredible video. I can't thank you enough for showing such true appreciation to gamers, artists, and just to people who masturbate... which is LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYONE. To not be able to have any real appreciation and respect for something we almost all do and indulge in, that so many people put so much work into, really needs to be addressed and you did a great job of treating it with nuance
That "paheal" term reminded me of our old computer renting shop (or cyber cafe if you're from the west) days. We would shout to our teammates who were across us inside the shop as a kid. The filipino tagalog word "Pa" similar to the word "to do" basically asking for something to be done making the word "paheal" - "to do healing" or "heal me". We would often say that whenever we do dungeon raids in our MMO-RPG clans if we have a healer in our party. Some english and tagalog words are often mixed together here in the Philippines. I'm taking a guess the guy who created the paheal site is either filipino, part filipino, or heared the word paheal said by a filipino. Also there are some manga translation teams that had filipino members back in the early 2000s. Again take it as a grain of salt or coincidence. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Great video, always love to see Newgrounds pop up in internet history moments. I do want to add some context/add a correction: I’m an art moderator on NG, and the SFM/Scene creator rule you cited is only for the Art Portal section of the site. The animation section has plenty of SFM loops of ripped/lightly modified in-game assets. It’s a bit of a point of contention for the community - especially when misrated adult content gets a Daily Award. I just checked and if you sort by “newest” in animation with A content enabled there’s an Atomic Heart SFM corn loop This being said I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these submissions accounts ended up deleted or abandoned anyway when site made it so A rated content can only be viewed with an account.
Its dumb they lost the case because it was too explicit I am no drawing artist but I am pretty sure drawing naked bodies is one of the best practices to make you better at drawing because of how complex the human physiology is and all the details that can be added to make it look as close to realityas possible.
I genuinely respect the effort you put into this. Great job! You've validated my habit of saving all the good, tasteful stuff I come across. Often, I've gone back to find some works of art just to find that they aren't there anymore.
"You've probably already heard this before..." "Everyone has seen this at least once..." "Almost everyone on the internet knows about this..." ...I have never heard of any of this information before in my life.
The video is still monetized! 👍
Here's a couple of updates/corrections:
1. I'm well aware "hentai" is only used in the West to describe Japanese-created adult works. When I said "no English equivalent to hentai" I meant a word to describe Western-created adult works, not an English word to describe adult works in general.
2. The original creator of the first Ankha animation was minus8, and ZONE's work was based off of that. However, minus8 had a lot of complicated stuff happen to them, and I wasn't sure if they'd even want me to talk about them publicly, so I didn't mention them.
3. The admin of the Paheal website reached out to me, to solve the mystery of where the site's name came from! According to their email "The name "Paheal" came from a tshirt my friend was wearing the day I registered the domain. The shirt had some mage guy from Ragnarok online next to the word "Pa-Heal" which apparently means "Heal, please!" in Tagalog."
I have a screenshot of the full email up on twitter if you want to read it: twitter.com/lextorias/status/1750052996069867656
Anyone who didn't get the first point, it's their bad. I read the comment before the point in the video and was expecting something more WAY more vague.
I always pronounced Paheal in my head as "pa-HEAL" with the second syllable stressed. Hearing the first syllable stressed, like it's "PAW heal" sounds so weird to me lol
man, i sincerily just clicked on your vid just to see your opinion quickly and then jump to another ytube video, but here i am congratulating you for that amazing work, i've never saw such charisma, interest and dedication on really making an interesting content, you've won not only a like but an active subscriber
The what of the main character.?
I must say that sometimes even the history of r34 is interesting.
Bro really turned that "I need that for research purposes" meme into reality
I would upvote, but it's at 666
That's true dedication to meme craft
@@TheDSasterX I respect that haha
same with 69
I’m surprised there’s 1.3k likes but only 3 comments, but that was hilarious
@@Hypo101Make that five now 🙂
My favorite Overwatch porn moment was when Blizzard went "We encrypted the models for our Overwatch 2 characters! Let's see you try and use them to make porn now!", only for the encryption to be cracked the next day or so.
If there’s one way to get the internet to break your encryption so they don’t make porn of your characters, it’s by taunting them that they can’t do it
3 days. It took 3 days for the internet to break the encryption
My favourite part was the post showing the ripped 3D model getting more likes than the release trailer of the game itself.
Didn't it take like an hour for Overwatch one?
Whattt no way, where?
The fact that i knew all the female Overwatch characters and their names without ever playing the game says something about its legacy regarding adult media.
ahahaha, they are *truly* popular
It also says something about you
@@wr0ng569 ...that he watches porn. Boo hoo, big deal /s
Says more about you, you know ALL of them.
It's how I learned about different games with female protagonist or something along those lines. Didn't know about Nier until it showed up on my feed.
I remember playing flash games on Newgrounds as a kid, crazy that I was a few clicks away from shattering my childhood brain
I remember the b j game in anime style art (of course) where you are a college girl and to pay for tuition you apply in a glory hole club for quick buck and you have to service men and theirs come out of hole in different, shapes and sizes and if you really good you become famous get more patrons and money. I forgot the name but maybe someone can remind us here. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jerry12314For me it was the Tarzan porn animation (or was it a game?) that was my first interaction with Newgrounds. I was 8 at the time. That was around the time Johnny Rocketfingers had just released.
I remember i used to browse Newgrounds a lot with a friend back in the day as kids. He once dared me to click into the mature section. Trying to be edgy, and thinking we'd find very violent and/or gory animations, i clicked on it.
My life changed forever after that.
MnF Cruise. Now that was a game. *Sips monster*
@@40kanon bahahaha, i didn't expect someone to remember that
The nami one was weird
The "PM Tom" thing is no joke. I once PMed him for a very specific problem I was having, and he replied to me within a day saying he'd fixed it for me. This guy's an absolute legend.
Yeah, Tom is great. A true rarity amongst mankind these days, he's truly dedicated to the wellbeing of his website. Nothing but respect for the guy.
lol when I was about 12 I PMed Tom asking him how he made the website and he really did respond to me not too long after. Young me was surprised because I didn’t really expect a response.
based
Tom is a genius.
Toms a fucking legend 😂
This man really traveled all the way to the fortnite island just to record this. That's dedication.
Why is there no reply’s here?
@@rohe1790there’s one now
I was gonna ask that…
Wish I could go there someday.
Here I thought is was from Genshin Impact
Thanks so much for covering this subject in such an impartial and informative manner! I'm sure people will be referencing your video for many years to come.
Ever since my mom accidentally rented me Urotsukidoji instead of Urusei Yatsura when I was way too young, I've never been the same. I have the letters that Nintendo sent me back in 2003 to demand I stop drawing Pokemon porn to prove it ;)
Fancy seeing you pop up. And to think, it's people like you who make me wish I'd not given up on grad school for psychology. For every 10000 soccer mom's frustrated with their husband's obsession with lawn care, sans innuendo, there's one like you. Thanks for being weird.
np
Holy fuck it's zonesama everyone stay calm
Where is my parody of cory in the house?
Aw snap it's the living legend Zone-sama!
One of the main reasons I haven’t quit twitter yet is because it’s one of the few social media sites where NSFW media can be freely posted. Not even just r34, if your interests are explicit in any way, it feels like you’re forced to use twitter, risk being banned constantly, or find a subreddit which god knows I’m not doing.
I would’ve moved to tumblr or something ages ago if it didn’t ban everything
Isn't this like the point of 4chan though? I honestly can't fathom why anyone would post NSFW on normal social media. Then again, I've never understood twitter either.
@@jamespulver3890 4chan has a lot of purposes. I used to use it, but I’ve grown really sick of the people on the boards I like
@@jamespulver3890 You're really showing your age with this one
@@jamespulver38904chan is no man's land
Shad getting busted for assault is like Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion
The funny thing is, while most people remember Shadman's unhinged Guro phase (early on), his way too long Loli phase, or his obsession with farts in general (plus stuff made by others, but hosted by Shad for a long time, like the weird stuff JLullaby made), Shad is actually a quite talented artist when he puts his mind on it.
@@LordNecron you hate to see it, really
@@LordNecronthe scariest thing is that most of the most talented artists were motivated to get that good because of their specific & widely taboo fetishes.
You have a pokemon PFP.
@@CaptainCFalcon kinda like how Stanley Kubrick may have been one of the world's best filmmakers in history, but he frequently abused his cast and crew to achieve the perfection he chased.
This is, actually, unironically, really great Internet history. Like, you're really rolling the dice on this even with the censorship. So, thanks for sharing this
So true
The thumbnail should’ve just been the Scott the Woz scene where he explains the AO rating
yes
RUclips really doesn't like the comments section of this video. 😂 Comments are getting deleted left and right just because people are trying to discuss "adult art".
insanely astute filter-avoidance tho!
Shoutout to creators who actually put some characterization and progression through several scenes in the work rather then just flooding the tags with 10sec humping loops.
Half the time I white-list the 'finish' because it's just not as good without a thick payoff.
There is not a ton of high quality animations, but the high quality ones are gold.
Hey, maybe they're just starting
*cough* You might like Spizzy's 5 minute Marie Rose animation with like 6/7 poses *cough*
@@enricohepner ayo
It really says a lot about me when I recognize the animators and artists the journalist mentions.
Same...
"wow bro i have a porn addiction its so funny!!!1!1!!!!"
@@adjacent_dollarjesus christ youre tone deaf
@@adjacent_dollar "i have roblox addiction its cringe"
@@Codedx5 A profile picture isn't an addiction? Would I say that you have a computer addiction due to your pfp? Because by your logic; *I would*
One thing I will say is that a lot of NSFW content creators ended up contributing to the Blender scene in many ways, such as bug reports, addons, suggestions and even code PRs. In fact, there's even a famous NSFW artist named Mets that was hired and is still to this day working to Blender Corporation, if I'm not mistaken he's the main guy behind CloudRig, he's still active in NSFW communities like Smutbase every now and then, along with other Blender employees as well.
Some Blender addons made by people in the NSFW community that I know of are: Simplicage, Bonedynamics, Fluid Painter, MustardSimplify & MustardUi, etc.
No breakthrough to be found here, although it's definitely a really big use of Blender
"Fluid painter" yeah, i bet
@@willyeeton4390 It originally was a NSFW free addon that was used exactly for what you're thinking lol
Free NSFW version still exists, but the guy made a paid SFW version with normal fluids like ketchup, chocolate topping and other food stuff. Seems to be doing well on Blender Market
Bonedynamics tho 👀
Funny how a good nude model still looks good with clothing on it, almost like it was built from the inside out!
But NSFW art has also contributed to a lot of problematic depictions of underage characters, sexual assault etc. It also feeds into this very perverse need to sexualize everything especially in genres like anime.
37:29 I love the odd word choice in "whoever is doing the Elizabeth porn on deviantart, please stop it", which makes it sound like there's a single mysterious artist who never sleeps and is just drawing 24/7, somehow singlehandedly flooding DeviantArt with porn. No one knows who they are and we're powerless to stop them. We had such a wholesome and upstanding Christian internet until that person came along... 😔
Granted some artists are just unironically like that
Well it was 2014 and, more importantly, thats one of the guys who made the fucking character... it kinda makes sense after that.
And this one artist is the reason God has forsaken us a second time. There is no salvation anywhere we go 😞
Nice joke
it's like the "who is this 4chan person" one
Fun fact: tody fox told artists to make corn of his characters to boost awaerness of his game. This was at the point were undertale was not well known. For deltarune, he commisioned a character that was designed pretty explicitly to draw attention away from r34 of the main characters. Tasq manager, a dominatrix, cat, robot thing completly failed to do that, as the main characters, expesally raslei, got considerably more. Lesson of the story, carful what you wish for.
yo can scarcely predict what people will actually like, and when you try and placate them on purpose, you may be called out for being shallow
@@512TheWolf512 I would not want to invest in r34 stock. What gets popular is sometimes nothing you expect.
@@samburden5053
Like the Elizabeth example showed, it's often about the emotional connection. So predictable in a sense but a godless amount of work.
ralsei my beloved
@@Alias_Anybody that was more true earlier on. Animal crossing got a lot of adult art because the entire point of the game was to bond earnestly with them and they already could flirt with you. But now R34 artists like more characters that have strong derivatives to conventional concepts that they can mass market + their popularity. What they are as a character, rather than the integrity of the media they belong to.
I'm surprised there was no mention of VanRipper and Helltaker, the guy who wanted to see more hot demon girls in suits, so he made a game and encouraged people to draw r34 of them.
I think it’s absolutely incredible that you managed to do all of this research with one hand
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Bravo
This is a banger comment.
It is truly incredible how fast these artists can be
I have seen rule 34 come out for characters officially revealed mere *minutes* before
They just gotta make sure the prophecy is fulfilled.
It wouldn't suprise me if people working on a game makes porn of a character before the game comes out, then releases it when the game is revealed.
One of the most important but often overlooked rule34 artists you missed, Minus8, actually made the Ankha animation you mentioned originally, then Zone remade their work. It was fine for them to do so, and both artists are awesome, it's just a shame to only mention Zone when Minus8 was also pivotal especially in that particular work and in music themed rule34 in general.
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It was more like a sequel inspired by his animation iirc, but yeah minus8 def should have been mentioned
minus8 was in the original version of my script for this video, but with everything that's happened to them online I didn't quite know how to talk about them
@@Lextorias I didn't know what happened and hs, that is complicated. I think the best would've been to just say that Zone remade it without saying the original creator
Afrobull, Cutesexyrobutts, Bhoris, etc...
Not that I know about them, of course
I started watching this video because haha funny prawn video, but this was a genuinely interesting, well researched, thoughtful look into something that could be considered its own art movement that gets swept under the rug because people are afraid of what the cultural Zeitgeist will think of them, of how others will perceive them even though everyone, yes, literally everyone, has seen smut at some point.
I remember an Economist article from the early 2010s that compared vintage vs modern adult content to steak vs crisps. Can't directly quote, but there was a line about "Now you can just have one after another."
Wait does that last line refer to steak or crisps?
Or... do I have an eating disorder?
@@InservioLetum Crisps. They were saying adult content used to be more rare, like a pinup or a VHS tape you have to go out and buy. Requiring more effort like a steak. But the quote was saying that with the advent of the internet, you can simply log on, google a phrase, and suddenly find yourself with an entire assortment of adult content at your fingertips. Like opening a bag of crisps.
@@donovian2538 a phrase? Don't you mean a number? Say... six digits?
I think the appreciation for r34 is pretty clear by the types of characters that are often most popular. Quite of few of the personas in the persona series are hyper sexulised, yet they dont get the same attention as the main casts.
A lot of that is popularity, but I think that people find it satisfying to see characters in vastly different interpretations while retaining their derivative characteristics. It's exactly because those expressions are so different from their base derivatives, that when an artist can still make it transformative of that character's personality, aesthetics, and characteristics, it gives a greater appreciation for those traits that establish them.
That's basically canaryprimary with aggretsuko for me. They did a way better interpretation of haida's love interests than the show. Sometimes r34 cam show a better interpretation all together.
@@joebest6582 Absolutely. Despite the lewd nature of the animation, some of it - especially the more recent Aggretsuko one - doesn't immediately go straight into the action. It's slow burning, and it honestly shows the relationship between Haida and Fenneko.
@@vikingzeroone9647interesting. Iv also seen alot of backlash of certain characters being lewded like the lady from the show "frienan"? Never seen it but apparently wholesome characters like that getting lewded sparks alot of rage, the response is generally, well don't look, its not for you. Outside of age, do you think every character is free game or are there untouchables
@@justafan-tn4ny what on earth are you talking about? I have looked up no references to this show.
@@justafan-tn4ny Personally, I don't mind it, but I tolerate it in a way like a spectrum - which is to say 90% of the spectrum is all okay with the lewd crap.
The only thing I don't like is artists drawing actual people and putting them in sensual situations (I'm looking at you Shad) or de-aging them (again, looking at you Shad, especially with the Keemstar thing. If you know, you know).
Apart from that, everything else is free game.
R34 has always been at the forefront of artistic innovation. I remember back in the very early flash days on newgrounds, they always looked over smoothed, like they were running at 64fps. That kind of animation looks really out of place in almost all situations but in the use of s3xual acts. The fluidity, rhythm and smoothness of character actions in those types of animations worked flawlessly. When artists like minus8 and zone started using them for their r34 animations, no one had seen anything quite like it, and it became viral as a result. S3xual art in general is a great way to use artistic techniques that are otherwise underdeveloped in other mediums.
And those skills can pay dividends with safe for work art. If you can animate sex, it's safe to say you can animate fights. Like, look at Balek for instance, who got gigs working with animation companies even while doing pron on the side
@0uttaS1TE that's true. There is a lot of overlap with weighting, tension, releasing, escalation (literally climaxing) between the two. They just highlight those artistic concepts with different framing. Maybe that's partly why fighting games are so horny.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775What is fucking, if not naked fighting?
And going back (given that I'm in the first 5 minutes of the video) old Japanese prints had to use tentacles in place of "D!ks" because lewd laws forbade actual "pronz". A law that still exists in Japan today and hence why blurring happens. That law has yet to be repealed. I'm guessing Lex goes into this detail in the vid but I couldn't wait to comment.
Dawg he literally just explained that adult art is a byproduct of digital innovation *not* the other way around _explained in detail by the artists themselves_
Now maybe you are trying to say that adult art and a desire to create more and more niche and esoteric porn popularized and made professional techniques more ubiquitous? Sure. Yeah.
But anything you’ve seen a porn artist do I 100% guarantee they got from a non-porn professional.
Otherwise they would just be doing that to make money professionally.
Just wanted to say that it's super fresh to watch a long form video like this with so much dedication to citing your sources. Good work, great vid!
Fun furry fact: the first image on e621 is image 13 as 1-12 were test images and removed from the site
Great work on researching obscure stuff I didn't know I wanted to know about.
Nintendo in general has this funny little habit of going absolutely ballistic on just about every matter related to copyright.
they are just assholes when it comes to copyright
When? I’ve never heard them doing it in gaming news.
@@LeonelLAURE Nintendo took down Rom sites. Took Dolphin off Steam. Hates mods. For a long time they would copyright strike any gameplay videos on RUclips if the youtuber didn't have permission from Nintendo IIRC, they forbid some fan event related to video games from happening and boy Nintendo has done a lot of other asshole things that I don't know about/don't remmeber
@@LeonelLAUREYou're kidding right? They constantly take down fangames like Ocarina2d, Am2r, and Pokémon Uranium
Or their communities just having fun. Namely SSBU Pro Scene
One of the things that makes Rule34 so interesting is how easy it is to get into. Can you write? Got a cheap drawing tablet? Can your PC run Source? Congrats! You're halfway there! It's why Rule 34 is Rule 34, hell it's why fan content is so important. If you love a character or a ship, or disagree with their interpretation in material, or there's not enough of what you want, there is enough documentation, tutorials and free material for you to make it. And chances are good that there'll be fans to watch and bankroll it.
Makes me wonder, where to find nsfw tutorials?
@@kogamustard7717 ruclips.net/video/j1IU5UHdyxE/видео.html&ab_channel=AnimeNyan
@@kogamustard7717The fuck do you mean?
@@AchievementDeniedlink don’t work
ruclips.net/p/PLsLOBEzVUn2Ctumk9kc8pbAyDzVdv98mw
About the only person I've seen making a 1-hour video out of curiosity after encountering a tweet (or in this case, somewhat of a trend). Both your research and writing abilities seem to be levelling up as time goes on. Congrats on the well-done job.
Pyro's popularity is actually very easy to explain imo - they're the only not explicitly male (bc you can't see their face, body and their voice is distorted) playable character in a very popular game and also mask/latex fetishism.
I'm honestly weirdly heart-warmed by this. That said I have NEVER viewed this site and you can't prove I did.
We can't but your isp can prove it.
@@zsomborgyenge4359haha mull go brrrrrrr
I too have never watched Overwatch stuff on R34.
Never.
@@oompalumpus699 yea, sure, and unicorns exist
@xXRealXx if it exists there is porn of it. There is porn of unicorns so clearly they exist.
i saw "Fritz The Cat" as a double feature with "Heavy Traffic" at the local drive in back in the early 1970's
Sounds fun
Didn't r crumb create that comix
Well, I got to this video through reccomendations so whatever things RUclips might usually do to supress a video like this clearly aren't working. Amazing work by the way. Just subscribed.
A little later but same. xD
honestly, lexitorias' self-censorship skills are top-notch. or rather, filter-avoidance strategies. he could legit do a follow-up video on what his exact focuses were on when editing stuff out.
54:43 It's not just adult content. In this day and age, people assume that all of history will be written down, archived properly, and easily accessible. But most history is lost to time: especially so for this topic.
My dude, you're quickly carving a really solid niche in the community. I've never seen a documentary about r34 before 😂
as an r34 artist myself im very grateful for your very thorough and respectful discussion of it, thank you :)
pron addiction is an endless self-destructive rabbit hole, ngl
God damn bots
@@LavaCreeperPeople I think everyone knows that
Lavacreeeper is a bot
exactly what i was gonna say
"Why is it always The Pyro?"
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess:
1) the popularity of gimp suits and latex as fetishes
2) A faceless character is better for projecting onto?
3) All else failing it's funny
Tf fans always seem closeted asf, not to mention its a game full of men only... makes sense why Pyro lol
"Pyro isn't funny"
Pyro's the only playable character that might be a woman
wheres pyrocynical to explain everything were wondering about?
And furry
I can confirm that I've looked up every character on the thumbnail multiple times.
You're probably one of the only people that is willing and able to make such an interesting and comprehensive history lesson about this topic
had to go tab over to patreon to give this one a proper watch and i'm glad i did! thought you deserved more than just $1 for your effort, so here's this :) this is really important history and i'm glad it's being documented one way or another!! always love your content! keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!
Fixed shadows
@@Q27Forever no one can fix these shadows. many have tried in the past. but alas, they stay ruined.
@@ruinedshadows Update 202.4 Patch Notes: Fixed a glitch that made certain shadows unfixable. The rest is up to you.
@@Lextoriasyou got your 20 bucks 😂
This video is so well made, subject matter aside. Well-researched, well-written, well-formatted. I never checked how much longer was left in the video. Very excellent job, subscribing specifically for this one
Found this video from a twitter post mocking it, saying they're not spending an hour to watch the history of gooning on the internet.
Having spent an hour watching the history of gooning on the internet, gotta say this is pretty great.
I never thought I'd watch an hour long video on R34, but dammit you made it extremely interesting.
Great video man, hope it brings you a lot of subs.
I really love documentaries when it brings irony, history, and jokes together. Also, as a man of culture, I thank you for explaining the history of Doujin and how the internet brought culture to the masses.
As a NSFW artist, genuinely, thank you for making this video, so much of this shit is buried and as someone who worked as a "Post master" for quite a few artists. (That being that I schedule posts and did analytics for artists wanting to increase their following. Which I don't do anymore cause I want to peruse my own work.) A lot of this history is lost in a sense because as you said, the platforms and spaces are growing smaller every year, X (Formally twitter), has been the only good high end staying ground for NSFW artist to get a foot hold and start off without being caved in by others in their field.
It's rough out there and the motivations to want to make art are so vast and genuinely interesting that writing something down should be some of our priorities, I know I've turned into a bit of an archiver in recent years as I want to try and preserve some history for those who are interested enough to want to know about how some of these things came to be.
Get a job.
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 “ get a real job”
real@@cirnosnumberfan6449
Ew
Why Is Everyone Being So Offensive Towards This Commenter Bro Just Chill For A Second He Just Spitting Out Some Facts
Finally someone who thinks like me, you have no idea how much archiving over the years ive done on Rule 34 sites to make sure people's art is archived, the sad fact is a lot of good art is being buried under AI art which is really really disappointing
The reason I started doing it was because of places like Tumblr nuking art, hundreds of thousands of artworks where lost and then also when a good friend of mine died i realised a lot of their artworks where not available anymore online so I've been archiving them as well
Thank you for your service.
ouch, sorry for your loss
Someone's gotta do the same with music. Just incase main servers go down from who knows what. That's why I like dvd, VHS, cassettes. The whole shabang. Kinda cool someone's doing it with the sexy stuff. You go man, hope your friend had fun and enjoyed as much as he could.
@@_Hero_Link_ thanks, it's been a few years now but I still miss them
@@FoxySpartan117 I completely agree, physical media is always important as well as having a real place to put older content, if companies weren't so anti-consumer we would have had something like that already
i really love how u respect the art and artists behind adult animation. as u said, very hard working and very creative people.
Ehh
I agree
hard working and creative people, wasting their time on an industry which hurts people. God have mercy on them.
@ZootOfficial What do you mean by that? They ain't out here making weapons systems for Raytheon or something.
@@ZootOfficial erotica exist since people draw and write. as does weird religious moralism. there is no proof of harm while religious moralism has an objective mountain of bodies left, from dying women bc abortion isnt available and forcing a child to arry a r.. baby to term has a higher risk of killing her to the thousands innovents burnt and tortured for heresy and such.
masturbation is actually healthy.
Now this is the kind of content I want to see more people seriously exploring. Sexuality is an enormous part of human culture and significant in the lives of just about everyone, yet it's considered inappropriate to actually acknowledge or talk about it out of fear of making people uncomfortable? It doesn't make any sense. We should talk about this stuff more.
Thank you for this production.
I think you want to take somebodys innocents away, right?
@@EmotionalParaquat714 What a fuckin wild sentence. "I bet you want a virgin sub to dominate, don't you? DON'T YOU!? No one appreciates sexual content without being a sadistic weirdo because sex is immoral!!! I'M BETTER THAN YOU!!!" lol get over yourself.
Thank around a millennium of moral guardians for that
Yoko Taro truly is the🐐, didn't know he followed up on his favor.
I think you forgot minus8 in that discussion. He deleted his account because of an incident a few years ago, but he is arguably the single largest influence for r34 on newgrounds. None of the people you mentioned would exist without him.
The original draft of the video included minus8 (the ankhazone video is based on their work, after all) but I didn't know how to talk about them after that
@Lextorias fair enough. He had the largest influence over Nintendo franchises like Mario and AC. Before that, these characters had no real association with the medium, more trolling like the Disney situation.
I always wondered what happend to minus8. Mind giving me a quick rundown?
I stopped the video wholesale when Lex said the Nile video came from Zone. Said "hold up, wasn't that minus8?" Minus8 did some really amazing work. Right up there with RexxCraft before he got confronted by Blizzard Lawyers.
Wait hr deleted his account? What happened??
Derpixon’s animations are great. Her animations and choices of VAs are always top notch. Yes, Derpixon is a girl.
bro........
bet
Derpixon is up there alongside Maplestar as one of my faves in animated porn
This guy looks EXACTLY like who you would imagine would host a Rule 34 video and I love it.
Great vid too.
Nice
That goddamn tweet has stuck with me for literal years now. It's so cool that such a funny little observation had an impact on someone like you to the point of basing a video around it. Coming from already loving your vids, I can't wait to give this a full watch!
This was really well put together, the respectful way you talk about the medium is 👌, really enjoyed the R34 timeline, was great!
and reaching to the OG animators was such a nice cherry on the cake,
and oh how I was waiting for you to bring up Overwatch and the well deserved NIER/Yokotoaro namedrop
Yoko Taro truly is a legend for his hilarious behavior and support of the r34 community.
Also, a small mention to minus8, the flash artist who made the original ankha dance video that Zone made a tribute to, who also made one of the most popular templates for those types of games, an animated character you could choose their position, amount of clothing and speed and also created the genderbent versions of mario enemies, like the shygal
Seriously, thank you for making this video. I've spent so many years being both a degenerate and someone who appreciates the hell out of the quality and work that goes into the stuff made in these spaces, and the history of it that you went over (some of which I was familiar with, some of which was all new to me!) is important. It matters. So thank you for covering this knowing potential issues that might come from doing so!
Three cheers for porn!
The artists you interviewed brought up such a good point about the tech already being there, and it made me immediately think that perhaps viewers were just conflating individuals' artistic progress to the progress of the medium as a whole. Because of course individual artists are going to get better the more they get familiar with a tool, and Rule 34 in particular addresses a lot of subjects that are REALLY DIFFICULT to animate convincingly in 3D, so it's a bit of a trial by fire. That will lead to a lot of really innovative uses of existing tech that might make it look like the industry as a whole is growing in stride, but really it's just a lot of really talented folks learning and growing together.
Which is just really interesting to me, honestly.
Your research on this topic kind of proves a thing I've been worried about for a long time... death of the Internet. It takes money to maintain servers, copyright strikes exist, people who own content simply die and there may be no one to keep their legacy. If content doesn't generate money, it'll disappear. And the more content gets created, the more content will disappear.
There are two paths we can take, and I think we should take both.
One is make more of an effort to preserve the content posted on the internet, at least the most influential ones.
The other is to accept the fact that a lot of things just disappear to time and we can't get them back. The biggest example being all those extinct animals that were never fossilized or preserved.
Dead Internet theory is more real than people think
Finally someone actually answering the questions with more then a trolling "Trust me bro"
28:44
"But, erm, Saarge, 💅💖✨
That would kill everyone in the Tri-State areaa." 👨❤💋👨💖🌈💅💅✨🏳🌈🏳🌈🏳🌈
Yea just a little insight on the "Italian Senate incident": The info of the zoom call was posted, publicly, on twitter. The person who made that post, containing the password to join said call was, get ready:
Included in the "Pioneers for Internet for reseach in Italy",
Recieved a MASTER in IT Security in 2003,
was Chief of IT Security for the Universities of Modena and Reggio Emilia (untill 2009)
worked (on something) in The Italian Federation of Universities and Research Institutions for Authentication and Authorization (untill 2018)
How someone with this "timeline" managed to (ALLEGEDLY) post publicly on twitter the access info to a SENATE Zoom Call should be indelebly etched in history
Yet the Rule34 and internet community swept that shite under the rug for no one to find out🤫
One thing there's no Rule 34 about - Doxxers. Unless its snuff porn. or vore..
Adult animator here! I typically operate in the 2D furry space, so seeing the other side of the coin is super fascinating. I got into making it because art programs in general became so accessible that poor teenage me could pick them up and translate my pencil/paper doodling skills to the screen instantly. Piskel and Krita are my tools of choice and I wouldn't be who I am today without them :)
I'm surprised to see Piskel being mentioned! Does it still run horribly like I remember it?
@@henryfleischer404 it doesn't run terribly, but there are a few key bugs that I've noticed while pushing it to its limits. For basic sprite editing it's all anyone needs
Not an adult animator but a regular one, I love Krita! Massively under-rated
Stand back everyone! We have an “adult animator” in the building.
@@drawmelikeafrenchgirl *as you clutch your pearl necklace
I cant believe r34 lore exists
Rule 34 takes you on a real internet rollercoaster. It's pretty mind-blowing how anything can be turned into 'adult content.' It's interesting seeing the creative side of people, but it also stirs up some controversy, especially when it comes to morals and ethics. It makes you wonder, what's the fine line between self-expression and crossing some serious boundaries.
pron addiction is an endless self-destructive rabbit hole, ngl
Loli fans are pdf files. Period.
The established line is wether it's unrealistic=okay; indistinguishable to a real human or at the expense of a real human's figure=not okay. Still, the okay line is debatable because when is it just a pure fantasy or a genuine urge.
@@kimitohanahala8674 having fantasies about children's bodies makes you a pdf file. Period.
@@agingerbeard we're talking about rule 34 not children.
That's actually a very interesting history video, no jokes.
It's detailed, filled with "trivia" and relatively digestible.
Good one comrade.
p.s. At 32:36, the reason why the Pyro (or more specifically FEM Pyro) is so popular, is because in the game the gender of the character is not specified, since you can't see it's face either. Actually, they don't even confirm it's a normal human either.
This gives a wide variety of contexts in which you could put it, basically making jt an "everything goes" as long as it's anthropomorphic.
holy shit is rule 34 like an actual legitimate artistic scene?
Please never stop doing these deep dives into topics like this, someone has to do it
I'm so happy I understood the “part one, early cinema” bit. I see you also like it when men carry things mr. Lex
Honourable mention : The Cyberpunk r34 scene, the people from that scene are crazy talented, and not surprinsgly lot of them are from the Mass Effect era. (Rescraft, Rigid3D, Holopointz, Checkpik, Rash Nemain etc)
While SFM is obviously the most important advancement in the advent of 3D I fell a bit missing without the mention of MikuMikuDance or MMD which was released in 2008 and is a dance music video software that was quickly used for adult dance videos and has an active adult animation community to this day
Was waiting for this comment ! MMD is sooo janky but that stopped nobody from making a lot of adult content with it.
It's an actual miracle the algorithm brought this video to me. As a small time r34 artist I am extremely appreciative you're telling the story of my people.
you should repent of such a sinful hobby.
@@phillipharrington9201 If you got this video recommended, then chose to scroll through the comments, I think you're beyond saving yourself.
@@phillipharrington9201 He probably makes more money than you.
@@phillipharrington9201 one time I drew a picture of Jesus getting head.
You better do Tharja stuff
I can only imagine the amount of research it took to pull something like this together. Thank you for this gift. :)
On a video about r34 the weirdest thing I saw was "give me the nuclear bazooka" clip. The internet truly is a marvel
2:15 Small correction: Adult industry never actively participated in technology development until the rise of streaming platforms. But was pretty much playing the role of kingmaker pretty effectively, when ever there was a format war going on.
Format war: There's a bunch of videos from Technology Connections breaking down the format war between VHS and Betamax where he pointed out that the whole "VHS won because of porn" thing is just entirely untrue, as porn existed on both formats and Sony had no control over what people were distributing on their tapes. (There was a different, much more obscure format that *did* restrict what people were allowed to distribute though, which could be where the whole rumor started.) At least according to him the main reason why VHS won was plain and simply because every step of the way, VHS allowed for longer recordings, which was very handy when a lot of its early appeal was in recording TV programs and especially sports games, since at that time the idea of owning movies to watch on your TV wasn't really a thing yet.
I really appreciate the amount of work you did to produce this research. You're awesome
Man you talking about Newgrounds and machinama REALLY takes me back
I'm cursed to have all this interesting knowledge but no way to share it without looking like a weirdo.
honestly the only thing that surprises me is that shadman didn't get arrested for that earlier
Pretty sure he also got in trouble for drawing CP
@@thewendigonerd5104No she did not.
@@twenty-fifth420Only because he stopped making it before it was made illegal
If I had to guess why Pyro specifically was so popular in the early days of sfm Rule 34, it's probably because their model was already easily rippable from TF2 and they don't have a face, which drastically decreased the workload of animating them.
Well, and the whole suit giving off latex dommy mommy vibes.
@@glacierwolf2155 More broadly it's probably because their gender is up to interpretation. They're the perfect faceless self insert
There was an animator called SableServiette who made Zelda BoTW animations that were such high quality that people were sharing snippets of them claiming they were actual in game cutscenes. They were insanely talented, but then Nintendo came along and struck them so hard with a cease a desist they haven’t made anything since.
Now this is what i wanted for schools history lessons, not some boring shit about Rome and slavery
I thoroughly enjoyed the way you tackled this subject. With adult content it can be so easy to go for the low hanging fruit, bashing on the art and the culture and overall making people feel ashamed of what is naturally a part of the human experience. It's rare we can talk about these things from a mature perspective and appreciate explicit adult content for it's process and what it expresses rather than the dopamine hit you get from rubbing one out to it and how "evil/bad" it is. You aren't the only one who has noticed that adult topics and subjects have sort of regressed in the public opinion, almost to the point of dystopian censorship and to me it feels so disingenuous when people play a moral high ground when bashing this kind of thing. In my opinion the people who fight so desperately to censor or shame the people who create and consume these kinds of adult content are people who themselves cannot control their urges and lack the confidence in their sexuality and their self control to witness these things without losing themselves to it
Unfortunately, the majority is de-facto in the right. No matter what we try to say. They've even got the NPC dialogue options to shutdown the conversation.
If you try to argue at all, then you're just labeled as a porn addict or something else with a negative connotation.
@@WanderTheNomad the funniest part is most of these ppl are pxrn addicts themselves
when i was straight i used to be in that train, constantly trying to "escape it" but ever since ive become pan, got actual people to vent, and overall just got better in mental health, i honestly just feel like i am now ok with it and honestly its no longer an issue to me, sure its sometimes frustating that i want to do something else but i decide to just go there, but honestly i think no matter what its better to just accept it for what it is (basically being the alcohol of the internet) instead of bashing the people who use it or make it, it just makes you cave deeper to it
@@splitsee2526 alcohol is a very apt comparison. indulging too much can definitely get out of hand and cause a lot of problems, but at the same time shaming people over it just isn't helpful for anyone
This isn't a criticism of you, this comment, or sex positivity. (I am generally sex positive, which is the political movement, not how I feel about sex for myself) Just shouting my thoughts into the void, but like, damn, as an ace person, anytime anyone describes sexual attraction, libido, and/or sex itself as "part of the human experience" or a similar variant, it always feels very isolating
A lot of aphobia comes from the position that humans are sexual and to be asexual is to be inhuman or disordered/broken and usually "the human experience" is assumed to be universal (The concept of any universal human experience is a very reductive sentiment and always ends up dehumanizing someone. "What is it to be human?" 99% of your DNA. That's the only inclusive answer but that's another topic on its own)
Just very frustrating that a lot of sex positivity is very asexual exclusionary and reaffirms aphobia and sometimes I feel like I'm not welcome (especially because a lot of people who are still de-programming purity culture think I'm somehow a slight against them simply via existing) There are asexual spaces within sex positivity but shit, I wish it wasn't needed
Not trying to police your language or anything. Just a specific phrase that called back to memories and shit. Just shouting into the void
This right here is excellent work. It's the kind of thing that I got recommended and thought "oh that's funny lol" but then sat down and watched something more informative and entertaining than I thought possible. Seriously, you deliver what you've got to say very well and you get your emotions, ideas, and information across in a way that's making me think and laugh my ass off in the same second.
Keep doing this; thank you for sharing your work and highlighting the works of others.
He is such an oddly sex-positive person. Not odd in any mannerisms or personality, but odd in the sense that openly talking about the subjects he covers usually has a much more lewd tone to it, and he treats it matter-of-factly with no cringe jokes or undertone or disparaging comments. It's nice to hear someone treat this subject seriously, in a way.
Way better than some puritans would've done, I'm tired of finding ytbers saying "ugh" for every art they show.
He actually treated this as art, well done.
@@Alecs250 Well said it man :)
@@Alecs250um no I don't think normalizing porn is a good thing
@@turntqble Whatever you think about it doesnt matter, its still art.
By the way you're kinda late for answering lol
Also a question, if thats what you think why are you here on this video? Are you having problems with your addiction and started projecting on other people to feel better or what?
@@Alecs250are you stupid?
Why am I not surprised that Nintendo & their inflated egos committed such an atrocity. 🙄
Back in 1999 no less. They didn't change lmao
That newgrounds policy about having to create all the assets in your videos yourself puzzles me. I remember Newgrounds was filled with sprite animations, which rip their sprites straight from video games. To me, this sounds like the 2d equivalent to using 3d models for your animations.
"Hentai" _is_ the English word for that though, in Japanese it only means a pervert, connotational strength somewhere between "freak" and "sicko." In Japanese everyone generally just uses "ero" or "ecchi" (which has its own complicated and weird history) and then whatever medium, i.e. "ero-manga," "ecchi na e," "ero-anime," etc. These have their own different coverages and ambiguities, such as "ero-hon" referring to both comics/manga and magazines or any other books.
I'm not much of an anime watcher, but last season there was an adaptation/spin-off of 16bit Sensation, where English subtitlers went with "hentai" for "ecchi na e" instead of the more literal "sex drawings," because that's just what English speakers call that now, at least when its origin is Japanese.
Lextorias is still right that we don't have a common word phrase for all of them in English regardless of origin of course, I just wanted an excuse to dump some linguistic quirks I find amusing.
Every time someone brings up the Italian zoom call thing, there's one massive story that's always missed.
After the Tifa vid, the hacker also showed a short clip of a genshin impact char before they were kicked out. Well, word of that got back to the Chinese government, and the artist who created that vid, who was totally unaffiliated with the hack, was fined for tens of thousands of dollars, arrested, and is STILL in jail.
oof
omg, that's really not fair to the artist, and i feel bad for him/her
wtf that's messed up
oof
well thats sad unless he was selling that for profit
i absolutely mean it when i say that its a shame that people treat this stuff like the taboo of all taboos. yes, it would be innapropriate to just bring up at work or really most situations, but i also dont think it should be treated like the devil himself.
the times ive gotten to sit down and genuinely actually learn about this stuff has been so fascinating. not even just the drawn stuff but literally any of it. its like another facet of psychology and i already find that interesting, and mixing it with one of the most creative sides of humanity... idk, its just cool. also a lot of these people make some really impressive art from a technical standpoint? the skill involved is no joke, 2D _and_ 3D.
my point is that it sucks that its not documented better, and that it isnt treated with the respect it deserves. which was also the point of the video, but still. as an artist, and as someone who has a lot of thoughts and feelings about the topic, i think the best way i can phrase it for youtube is just that the way things are kinda sucks lol. great video
Having finished this video now, and being someone that is mildly successful creating NSFW artwork both on and off of the internet, I can confidently make a few comments about the reception, criticism of, and business sides of NSFW art creation.
First off, most anyone who has done about 10 seconds of research can tell you that 'lewd' artistic creations have literally been around since the beginning of recorded history. That being said, it tends to get hushed up or ignored entirely when by most art historians. I've been through several art/art history classes, enough to have two art degrees, and have barely even heard mention of sex in artwork. I mean, even Andy Warhol, a relatively recent and massively popular artist (considered a celebrity during his lifetime) in our history created an artistic short film called "Blowjob" in 1964; you can probably guess what it was of. However, most people don't know about that because creations that center around sex and sexuality are dismissed as "Pornography" and therefore aren't "real Art."
With the boom of Judaism (mostly Christian) over the last couple thousand years, Western society has become largely puritanical. Sex is widely considered taboo, frivolous and a 'base desire,' contradictory to enlightenment. So why would we want to glorify or celebrate it? Unfortunately our political and economical systems are deeply rooted in this mindset and are openly against sex positivity and sex work, despite what they do behind closed doors. That's why we have seen things like OnlyFans cancelling sex-focused content after having issues with bankers (which got reversed eventually after enough outcry), PayPal disabling NSFW artists' accounts (and taking any money left in the account), and most banks outright shunning sex workers, etc. Many people believe that making any kind of adult content is an 'easy way out' or 'selling out' when the entire system is set up to be quite the opposite. But still we create and find ways to express this completely natural part of our existence and sometimes even get lucky enough to get paid doing it.
Explicit artwork and creativity (sex work included) is never going away and we should strive to destigmatize it and accept the creators.
Im not particularly for or against sex work or sexuality in terms of how i wish to prescribe my ideal world, but even i can see that we are currently putting ourselves in a cycle where we as a society we hate sex and so never talk abut it which only leads to more issues with sex.
I think education is always the key and single most important thing in this world and it's development with sex being no exception, people need to learn about sex and how to engage with sexuality, otherwise we end up with more and more uneducated individuals who never learned proper boundaries around sex or how to talk about their own sexuality and end up causing issues or even potential crimes.
This last part might be a bit obscene but even with the whole discourse around sex ed in schools and how people are scared for their children, but in my mind surely the best way to protect kids from being manipulated by a sexual predator is to equip them with the knowledge of what it looks like and how to explicitly avoid it? Often many of those crimes in particular are perpetrated by close family or friends, people who build trust and manipulate a childs naivety and use fear tactics to control them, to me we should be doing everything possible to equip that child with the tools to defend themselves from that behaviour, many predators are weak cowards who ant to abuse children simply because they are so much weaker than them, so part of disarming those people is showing them how little power they have even against someone that vulnerable.
Ofcourse this isn't a one size fits all solution but I'm proposing a method of reduction not a total fix to it.
I think overall sex positvity gets mis used sometimes by those who lack care for others and end up giving sex a bad name, sex can be highly important and overall sexuality itself is a massive part of our identities, including asexuals who largely go unspoken of in our assumption that everyone must want sex, sex is simply a thing we do and it's a natural process, like anything it can be abused but that shouldn't put the whole thing to shame, and part of improving our engagement with sex is learning about it, doing scientific research and figuring it the fuck out first instead of mindless condemnation with no actual testing to see if we are right or not.
Just popping in to say what in the world does "Judaism (mostly Christian)" mean?
@@sirvaniss judaism and christianity share alot in common, that's why you will often hear the term "judeo-christian values" to highlight the general religious or social beliefs held in alot of western society.
@@sirvaniss Yeah, sorry, I got a little mixed up when editing trying to find better ways to convey my thoughts. Replace "Judaism (mostly Christian)" with Judeo-Christian.
Lol I'm Jewish. Judaism and Christianity are extremely distinct not just in theology but in ethics, practice, history, language, and more. They are not classifiable as one larger "basically the same" religion/ethical system in the same way that Hinduism and Buddhism aren't. Honestly, "Judeo-Islam" is closer to something that actually exists. If you're using the term "Judeo-Christian" you probably just mean European.
"the clap" being referenced in 1800s is a serious mind blow among other blows lol
And the clap was a much bigger deal than it is now.
Congrats, not only has the video not been taken down yet, but the algorithm is definitely pushing it haha.
Great vid!
I find it really funny that the creators sometimes will laugh about the r34 about their games. but NOTHING will top what Videocult did with Rainworld.
Here"s a hint: OF rejected it because "they aren't a real character"
Thanks Andrew.
This was an incredible video. I can't thank you enough for showing such true appreciation to gamers, artists, and just to people who masturbate... which is LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYONE. To not be able to have any real appreciation and respect for something we almost all do and indulge in, that so many people put so much work into, really needs to be addressed and you did a great job of treating it with nuance
That "paheal" term reminded me of our old computer renting shop (or cyber cafe if you're from the west) days. We would shout to our teammates who were across us inside the shop as a kid. The filipino tagalog word "Pa" similar to the word "to do" basically asking for something to be done making the word "paheal" - "to do healing" or "heal me". We would often say that whenever we do dungeon raids in our MMO-RPG clans if we have a healer in our party. Some english and tagalog words are often mixed together here in the Philippines. I'm taking a guess the guy who created the paheal site is either filipino, part filipino, or heared the word paheal said by a filipino. Also there are some manga translation teams that had filipino members back in the early 2000s. Again take it as a grain of salt or coincidence. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Great video, always love to see Newgrounds pop up in internet history moments. I do want to add some context/add a correction: I’m an art moderator on NG, and the SFM/Scene creator rule you cited is only for the Art Portal section of the site. The animation section has plenty of SFM loops of ripped/lightly modified in-game assets. It’s a bit of a point of contention for the community - especially when misrated adult content gets a Daily Award. I just checked and if you sort by “newest” in animation with A content enabled there’s an Atomic Heart SFM corn loop
This being said I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these submissions accounts ended up deleted or abandoned anyway when site made it so A rated content can only be viewed with an account.
fun fact, back in the day, like way back when, drawing cartoons in adult situtions was sometimes called a bible
Its dumb they lost the case because it was too explicit I am no drawing artist but I am pretty sure drawing naked bodies is one of the best practices to make you better at drawing because of how complex the human physiology is and all the details that can be added to make it look as close to realityas possible.
I genuinely respect the effort you put into this. Great job!
You've validated my habit of saving all the good, tasteful stuff I come across. Often, I've gone back to find some works of art just to find that they aren't there anymore.
"You've probably already heard this before..." "Everyone has seen this at least once..." "Almost everyone on the internet knows about this..."
...I have never heard of any of this information before in my life.