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  • Опубликовано: 10 авг 2022
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  • @owlsmath
    @owlsmath 2 года назад +7

    Good problem! When you see everything on the left is a factor of 2 or 3 that tells you to substitute.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 года назад +1

    Thanks so much. I think your voice is better than yesterday.

  • @goldenmath5855
    @goldenmath5855 2 года назад

    Really a good Problems with full solution, Keep up

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 2 года назад +8

    Pongo t=(3/2)^x,ottengo una equazione in t, 6t^2-13t+6=0,cioe t=2/3,t=3/2,che quindi danno x=1,x=-1

  • @haileykk1035
    @haileykk1035 2 года назад

    Super awesome to substitute the exponential

  • @happy.sad.2172
    @happy.sad.2172 Год назад

    I checked the general case and found that for any pair of bases such that (a^3x-b^3x)/((a^2x)b^x-a^x(b^2x)), if x=1 is a solution then x=-1 is also a solution.
    This follows from:
    (a^3x-b^3x)/((a^2x)b^x-a^x(b^2x))=(a^3-b^3)/((a^2)b-a(b^2))
    Factoring as a difference of cubes and all that on both sides you get
    (a^2x+(ab)^x+b^2x)/(ab)^x=(a^2+(ab)+b^2)/(ab)
    Substitute in x=-1 and simplify to get b/a+1+a/b, which becomes (a^2+(ab)+b^2)/(ab) when you put it under a common denominator.

  • @div_07
    @div_07 2 года назад +7

    By observation (totally real and legot method):
    x=1

    • @jeremymorain
      @jeremymorain 2 года назад

      Imagine taking 9 minutes to count to 1

    • @div_07
      @div_07 2 года назад

      @@jeremymorain you do realise that i have a life outside youtube and that when i got on my phone the video was already 9 minutes? Yeah i guessed it, you don't.

  • @mariomestre7490
    @mariomestre7490 2 года назад +1

    Genial gracias

  • @tbg-brawlstars
    @tbg-brawlstars 2 года назад +4

    By a look, we can definitely say that 1 is a solution.

  • @gdtargetvn2418
    @gdtargetvn2418 2 года назад +4

    There is another method, which takes advantages of function knowledge.
    Let f(x) = (27^x - 8^x) / (18^x - 12^x)
    By plugging -x in, we will have f(-x) = [27^(-x) - 8^(-x)] / [18^(-x) - 12^(-x)] and this looks kind of complicated, so let's simplify this a bit.
    f(-x) = [27^(-x) - 8^(-x)] / [18^(-x) - 12^(-x)]
    = (1/27^x - 1/8^x) / (1/18^x - 1/12^x)
    = [(8^x - 27^x) / 216^x] / [(12^x - 18^x) / 216^x]
    = (27^x - 8^x) / (18^x - 12^x)
    Since f(x) = f(-x), f(x) is an even function, meaning if x is a solution, -x is also a solution. Now we need to prove f(x) is strictly increasing for x > 0 by using differentiation (a.k.a the longest part of the method).
    f'(x) = {(18^x - 12^x)[27^x.log(27) - 8^x.log(8)] - (27^x - 8^x)[18^x.log(18) - 12^x.log(12)]} / (18^x - 12^x)^2
    Let the numerator be g(x) and we'll factorize this madness.
    g(x) = 6^x(3^x - 2^x)[27^x.log(27) - 8^x.log(8)] - 6^x(3^x - 2^x)(4^x + 6^x + 9^x)[3^x.log(18) - 2^x.log(12)]
    = 6^x(3^x - 2^x){27^x.log(27) - 8^x.log(8) - (4^x + 6^x + 9^x)[3^x.log(18) - 2^x.log(12)]}
    = 6^x(3^x - 2^x).h(x)
    Now we further simplify h(x) by expanding them and putting them back (I hope I use this phrase correctly).
    h(x) = 27^x.log(27) - 8^x.log(8) - 12^x.log(18) - 18^x.log(18) - 27^x.log(18) + 8^x.log(12) + 12^x.log(12) + 18^x.log(12)
    = 8^x[log(12) - log(8)] - 12^x[log(18) - log(12)] - 18^x[log(18) - log(12)] + 27^x[log(27) - log(18)]
    = 8^x.log(12/8) - 12^x.log(18/12) - 18^x.log(18/12) + 27^x.log(27/18)
    = 8^x.log(3/2) - 12^x.log(3/2) - 18^x.log(3/2) + 27^x.log(3/2)
    = [log(3/2)](8^x - 12^x - 18^x + 27^x) = log(3/2)(2^x - 3^x)^2(2^x + 3^x)
    Therefore, f'(x) = [6^x.log(3/2)(2^x + 3^x)(3^x - 2^x)^3] / (18^x - 12^x)^2
    Because x > 0, 3^x - 2^x > 0 and (18^x - 12^x)^2 ≠ 0. Therefore, f'(x) > 0, which means f(x) is even and for x > 0, it is strictly increasing. Now we just need to guess and conclude to the other solution.
    Seeing that f(1) = f(-1) = 19/6, that tells us that x = ±1.

    • @WahranRai
      @WahranRai 2 года назад +2

      No, even function doesn't mean that this equation has exactly 2 opposite solutions !
      x=1 is an obvious solution then x=-1 is also a solution now you must prove that is unique. You must prove that for x >0 then the function is strictly increasing (or decreasing) or injective

    • @gdtargetvn2418
      @gdtargetvn2418 2 года назад

      @@WahranRai oh, right, but at least that part is not too hard to do after all 😅 i'll include it in later

    • @devondevon4366
      @devondevon4366 2 года назад

      An interesting method.

  • @rocamgreg
    @rocamgreg Год назад

    Excelente 👍👍👍

  • @Dan-cw8xu
    @Dan-cw8xu Год назад

    Nicely done! I'm a couple of days behind in the videos. I hope you are feeling better soon, my friend.

  • @user-de3he4ct1h
    @user-de3he4ct1h 2 года назад

    يعجبني هذا نوع من اسئله شكرا عله جهودكم٨

  • @buff9943
    @buff9943 Год назад

    Спасибо за видео!!!

  • @nicogehren6566
    @nicogehren6566 2 года назад

    very nice question

  • @oliviermiakinen197
    @oliviermiakinen197 Год назад

    About the graph of y = f(x) = (27^x − 8^x)/(18^x − 12^x) and its symmetry...
    First, note that the function is not defined at 0.
    When 0 is excluded and we divide numerator and denominator by (3^x − 2^x), we get y = (9^x + 6^x + 4^x)/6^x, i.e. y = (3/2)^x + 1 + (2/3)^x. Then it is not surprising that the function is symmetric around 0, because replacing x with −x is equivalent to swapping (2/3) and (3/2).

    • @oliviermiakinen197
      @oliviermiakinen197 Год назад

      There is more : f(x)-1 = 1.5^x + 1.5^-x is very similar to cosh(x) = e^x + e^-x !

    • @oliviermiakinen197
      @oliviermiakinen197 Год назад

      Oops! I mean cosh(x] = (e^x + e^-x)/2. By the way, our function f(x) is exactly the same as 1+2.cosh(x ln(3/2)) for all x except 0.

  • @barakathaider6333
    @barakathaider6333 2 года назад +1

    👍
    Your sound looks like a different..seems you got flow, hope you recover soon ان شاء الله

  • @jimmykitty
    @jimmykitty 2 года назад +5

    Awesome ♥️
    Sir, your voice sounds a bit different 😅

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! yes 🤒

    • @SuperYoonHo
      @SuperYoonHo 2 года назад +2

      Hi~!

    • @jimmykitty
      @jimmykitty 2 года назад +1

      @@SyberMath oops.. Get well soon 💖

    • @jimmykitty
      @jimmykitty 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperYoonHo Hi sir! how's going everything?

    • @SuperYoonHo
      @SuperYoonHo Год назад +1

      @@jimmykitty Hi everything is find EXCEPT we didn't have the internet for 2 days again!!! haha @SyberMath you know what i mean do you?
      it is a mouse that nibbled on our wire
      sorry for the late reply...
      How is it going there? Here is fine now:)

  • @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095

    When you get
    6a^2-13ab+6b^2 = 0,
    the factorization is not at all obvious.
    So instead, since a, b are both not zero, I divided both sides by ab and obtained:
    6(a/b)-13+6(b/a) = 0
    Substituting w=a/b we get :
    6w-13+6(1/w) = 0
    6w^2-13w+6 = 0
    Solving this quadratic equation we obtain :
    w = 3/2 or w = 2/3

    • @gdtargetvn2418
      @gdtargetvn2418 Год назад +1

      I would rather divide both sides by b² or a² instead, it will instantly create a quadratic equation.

    • @nareshkumar-uo7nz
      @nareshkumar-uo7nz Год назад

      @@gdtargetvn2418 I followed this approach as well

    • @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095
      @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095 Год назад

      @@gdtargetvn2418 I divided by ab, then multiplied by a/b, which is equivalent to dividing by b^2, so you're right, I might have done it in a single step dividing by b^2. Of course dividing by a^2 is also possible.

  • @wildanali9989
    @wildanali9989 2 года назад

    Cool

  • @pranavamali05
    @pranavamali05 2 года назад +2

    thnku

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +1

      Np

    • @SuperYoonHo
      @SuperYoonHo 2 года назад +1

      Hello:D

    • @pranavamali05
      @pranavamali05 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperYoonHo hello

    • @SuperYoonHo
      @SuperYoonHo 2 года назад +2

      @@pranavamali05 good afternoon this has been a busy day with my animals im tired...

    • @pranavamali05
      @pranavamali05 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperYoonHo have a good sleep tonight

  • @salfisogeya5910
    @salfisogeya5910 Год назад

    how does 3^x/2^x =3/2

  • @barackobama2910
    @barackobama2910 2 года назад

    admission test for 11 year boys to math classes in USSR.

  • @Palkia8-Bit
    @Palkia8-Bit 2 года назад

    Have you played Club Penguin or Club Penguin Rewritten before?

  • @devondevon4366
    @devondevon4366 2 года назад

    x=1 and x=-1 answer

  • @andrei_nazimov
    @andrei_nazimov Год назад

    x=±1

  • @yakupbuyankara5903
    @yakupbuyankara5903 Год назад

    X=1

  • @niranjanchakraborty1139
    @niranjanchakraborty1139 2 года назад

    Ans x= 1 (no need to calculate/)

    • @TedHopp
      @TedHopp 2 года назад +1

      Not the only solution to the equation. Many of these problems are like that -- you can find one or two solutions easily, but the hard part is finding them all (or proving that there are no more).

  • @user-kx7qy7sr7t
    @user-kx7qy7sr7t Год назад

    👍👍👍👏👏👏👌👌👌

  • @rakenzarnsworld2
    @rakenzarnsworld2 Год назад

    x = 1. Are you Baldi?

  • @damiennortier8942
    @damiennortier8942 2 года назад

    I find no real solution :(

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Are you sure?

    • @damiennortier8942
      @damiennortier8942 2 года назад

      @@SyberMath I'd find x = 0 and a quadralic which have no real solution