OT Violence Merely Hyperbole?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • God commands or commits violent acts in the Old Testament. Why? Should we just think of these acts as hyperbole? Dr. John J. Collins of Yale Divinity School weighs in.
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Комментарии • 42

  • @Kvothe3
    @Kvothe3 4 года назад +4

    Love this format Josh. Thanks for all you and your wife do!

  • @greyback4718
    @greyback4718 4 года назад +6

    Great guests and very interesting interview, doesn't get much better than that

  • @pathologyiscool
    @pathologyiscool 4 года назад +1

    Dr. Collins is fantastic. Wish he wasn't retiring next year.

  • @andybeans5790
    @andybeans5790 4 года назад +1

    For a moment I thought I'd missed a chance to watch Dr. Collins live

  • @CCP-Lies
    @CCP-Lies 7 месяцев назад

    Remember, good thing in bible = literal, bad thing in bible = hyperbole

  • @RustyWalker
    @RustyWalker 4 года назад +2

    Can it be hyperbole if the event itself didn't happen? I thought hyperbole was to overinflate a factual statement, like "Pogba is a decent soccer player" becomes "Pogba is the greatest player in the world!!"

    • @pumaconcolor2855
      @pumaconcolor2855 4 года назад

      I think in this case the "teaching" would be hyperbolic, the text says that your ancestor slaughtered the people that live near you and you should understand that those are bad people and you shouldn't be in good terms with them. I'm not saying that that is actually the case.
      By the way, surely Pogba is not the greatest player in the world but maybe "decent" is a bit of an understatement :)

    • @qzh00k
      @qzh00k 4 года назад

      Great point, not supposed to worry the details neighbor. Immaculate conception part lost me, at about twelve.

    • @TheMalik1697
      @TheMalik1697 4 года назад

      But pogba is the greatest player in the world

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah 4 года назад +5

    As the child of an end-times Apocalyptic cult I love this: "Jesus may have been a nice guy the first time around, but boy don't get in his way when he comes back!"😜

    • @thaliart
      @thaliart 4 года назад

      Did you get back at the people that kept you in the cult? Or you're Stockholm syndromnised?

  • @tommysmith5479
    @tommysmith5479 4 года назад +2

    Dr John is spot on: "When you get a divine command in the bible, it is some human being telling you that this is what god commands." And not much has changed since then!

  • @robertpalumbo9089
    @robertpalumbo9089 4 года назад +2

    It was the bronze age

    • @robertpalumbo9089
      @robertpalumbo9089 4 года назад +1

      And let us talk about modern and atomic bombs ww1 and ww2 now that is true violence
      We have not evolved very much in the last 5000 years

  • @rafaelfcf
    @rafaelfcf 4 года назад +2

    I love this channel... buuuuut your question are soooooo long it loses focus quickly!

    • @DutchJoan
      @DutchJoan 4 года назад

      No, they don't. You just have to dissect them. If there is one thing I've learnt then it is that you have to ask the right questions. You can't randomly imply things with a broad answer to a general question. So you have to ask a more detailed question.

  • @DigitalGnosis
    @DigitalGnosis 4 года назад +1

    It's JUST hyperbole ... nothing more :)

    • @nathanjasper512
      @nathanjasper512 4 года назад +2

      Kind of like ancient rappers bragging about wasting fools for street cred? Yo dog, I wasted three Canaanites and a Moabite last night gonna head down to the land of kush and get some of that burning bush. Ahhh yeah.

  • @user-re5xg4ds6u
    @user-re5xg4ds6u 4 года назад

    Jews and Christians , Interesting , Thanks

  • @BeenDownSoLong...
    @BeenDownSoLong... 4 года назад

    And yet people use this hyperbole to justify their horrific actions regardless of when it was written. God made me do it.

  • @Napoleonic_S
    @Napoleonic_S 4 года назад

    Curious, for people like you who are in secular academic position, isn't it more appropriate to directly call the Hebrew Bible god as Yahweh or Jehovah or whatever? After all you would call Zeus as Zeus and not going with the Greek chief god or something like that?

    • @redvel5042
      @redvel5042 4 года назад +1

      Well, no, because those names aren't accurate. Jehovah is basically Yahweh (Y is commonly substituted with J), and Yahweh is in fact not correctly reading the text. He made a video about this, actually: ruclips.net/video/Se-_BcWxbPw/видео.html
      Basically, when you read the Hebrew Bible, some words are written differently than they're supposed to be pronounced (like, say, written: "cenbral", pronounced: "central") and usually you can see what it is you're supposed to see and the vocalization matches that of the word you're supposed to say.
      However, the word יהוה is so common throughout the Hebrew Bible that you're basically expected to already know you're not supposed to read it Ya-ho-wah, but rather understand that it's Adonai.

  • @LAGoff
    @LAGoff 3 года назад

    Since that area is God's land*, it would make sense that God would want it cleared of abominations. Is it too much to ask that at least in this one tiny sliver of God's creation set aside as holy by God that the inhabitants of it abide by His Laws?
    * Canaan/Israel just happens to be the only area of the earth that bestrides all three continents of the then known world. The other continents can be reached rather easily through Elat (southern Israel) and the Straits of Gibraltar. Hence, God logically chose this area as the X spot (the literal meaning of Zion/Tsion-- 'mark') So any abominations committed here would literally be in the cross hairs (X) of God.

  • @profdelrio
    @profdelrio 4 года назад

    Only elite could read in the ancient world. These texts were not intended for a reader, but for authoritative preaching

    • @jimkoss3318
      @jimkoss3318 4 года назад

      Eduardo Del Río What are your sources re: “only elite could read”?