OM SYSTEM 12-40mm f2.8 Pro II and 40-150mm f4 Pro - [A Quick look]
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- In this video a take quick look at the new OM System 12-40mm f2.8 Pro II and 40-150mm f4 Pro lenses.
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⏱Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:28 Why these two lenses? (part 1)
00:39 OM System 12-40mm f2.8 Pro II
01:44 OM System 40-150mm f4 Pro
03:07 Why these two lenses? (part 2)
04:01 Image Quality vs. older models
07:01 40-150mm f4 AF Speed vs. 40-150mm f2.8
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Like you said recently on Jimmy's (?) livestream re the OM-1, these releases represent an undertaking to invest in and develop MFT. This is the most important part in my opinion. Panasonic's new GH6 underlines that MFT is alive and kicking! Thanks Peter
Many Thanks Peter for the usual updates on the new lenses, it is clear that OMD is heading to pioneer the future of MFT and compact professional cameras.
Thanks for another great review. The new 40-150 will be a great upgrade for my OM-D 5 mk3 from my $99 special that always surprised me with its quality per price ratio. For me, it's all about the weight, and the F4 lens is exactly what I want.
Hi Peter. I've recently bought the OM System 12-40 f2.8 pro II second hand and I am thrilled with the quality. Its been a while since i had a zoom and to my surprise I am struggling to see the difference in IQ between the results from this lens and the Pana Leica primes I have. Loving the convenience also.
Hey Peter, thanks for this quick look. I think the 40-150mm f/4 is positioned like a travel lens. I use 12-40 and 40-150 f/2.8 for my professional work all the time, but when I travel I wish I had the 12-100 f/4, it's just so convenient.
I agree, and for enthusiasts like myself who don't want the weight and bulk of the 2.8 versions. If I need speed, I'll go with my mitakon 25mm f0.95, and am considering getting a 17mm prime of some sort. 4 stops more speed makes carrying extra lens well worth it for me. My dilemma now is how to go forward with the f4 system. I have the 8-25, and was set on getting the 12-100 next, but this could open the door to the 12-45 and 40-150. Ultimately I think that the 12-100 will still be my choice since it has IS, is one lens vs two, and the 12-45 has a lot of overlap with the 8-25. Still, it's great to have the choice and I think the f4 lineup really targets the ethos of m43 for the photographers that want excellent quality and small size.
@@torfinnjohnsrud793 depends what you shoot, but 12-100 is an amazing lens for travel and video also, there is no other lens on the market that can beat it in that regard.
@@torfinnjohnsrud793 Have you considered pairing the 8-25 with the Panasonic 35-100 f2.8?
That lens is tiny for its focal length and brightness and the IQ is on par with Olympus.
It is even lighter than the 8-25.
To me the 10mm gap is not significant. But if it is a problem it can be filled with the sigmas 30 f2.8 or 30 f1.4 for another 2 stop advantage if necessary.
M43 is spoiled for choice.
To me that 3 lens package covers ultra wide to normal daily zoom, a normal bright low light lens, and a 2.8 telephoto zoom. All super portable and light.
If you have the 8-25 and the 0.95 mitakon, the 35-100 f2.8 may be a good alternative.
Thanks for doing this! It’s definitely time for an update for the rest of the lineup as well! I hope they consider making a 100-400 that can have sync IS with the OM-1 and take advantage of the 50fps
This lens is called 150-400 :)
@Michael Whyte I understand you, but I don't think there will be another 100-400 lens and there needs to be some distinction between different models.
If I didn't own the f2.8 I would probably buy the f4. Of course there is a huge size difference but I still find the f2.8 very satisfying to use and the extra speed and subject isolation is a factor, I think f4 makes more sense on a FF sensor where they fall into the budget category, this new lens is quite expensive
Been waiting on this video
Thanks for the video, Peter. Looks like some nice new additions to the lineup. The only thing I find strange is they did not allow compatibility with teleconverters for the new 40-150mm lens. I think that will turn off a lot of people off to that unit.
Could be, hard to say.
The lens roadmap has a 75-150 macro zoom and two more zooms of around 40-200, both in the Pro section which suggests they will be f2.8 or f4 constant aperture.
I wonder which will be next. Really keen to find out.
I hope a new macro it’s been a while and we only have two choices under the Olympus/ om brand
Feeling better after watching your impressions on the 40-150mm f4 Pro. Just ordered one,any other Olympus lens I have purchased I watched your Reviews first before buying.
Not the case here,but I had a feeling this one was going to be a winner.A nice compliment with my EM1-X.
Great content as always,Thank You!!!
Good choice!
When you do a full review of the 40-150 f/4, I'd be interested in seeing (or getting your opinion on) how much better it is (obviously, it's better - how much, is the question) than the cheap plastic-mount 40-150 f/4-5.6 R version.
With this new lens I think the 40-150 f/4-5.6 R is absolutely absolute unless you want something very very cheap, or it;s part of a kit with a camera.
@@AnastasTarpanov different things. The R version is amazing! and is only 99 dolars... Greetings
@@guzman_uy9420 yes, different things, but the question is how much better is and there is no question about that :)
I love my 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 R lens, it's really good. But weather sealing and a bit less DOF at 150mm would be nice sometimes. So i'm looking forward to the new 4.0, if it's not much heavier it's an option for me.
I also wonder if the newer lens is a bit sharper has to do with the way the newer glass is manufactured. i.e. OM has been able to refine and improve on their process a bit.
I like the f4 range as lenses for my EM 5 mkiii. I sort of wish that the 40-150mm was 20-150mm, allowing me to have 8-150mm in two lenses. I guess I shall have carry the 12-45mm as well.
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good to see omsystem/olympus add the F4 variant of the 40-150 :) i think its a good compromise between both 40-150
I am keeping both of the older versions. For now I'm looking at the 100-400mm so it all depends on what you need at any given time.
Peter, Where you compare the 40_150 size, the 2,8 has its lens hood attached.
It is a substantial, (and quick to use) hood.
Beside it, the 4,0 version has no hood attached, an oversight I guess.
If one compared them both without hoods, the difference is not huge.
If you travel with the 2,8 you can always leave the hood at home.
Gee, my 2,8 is coming up to its 6th birthday. I have never for a second, regretted buying it. It's stellar!
I use the 40-150mm with teleconverters most of the time. It works great with the MC-20. Also have the 12-40mm original...and it's fine. What I want to see is a long range macro zoom. I would hope on that in a second!!!
Thanks Peter, looking forward to your full review. Quite tempted by the new 4-150 as the 2.8 is just too big and heavy much of the time.
To me nothing like a fast glass...
There are two reasons, that make me preffer the 40-150 2.8 version (without having tested the f4 pro version):
1. You can use teleconverters, so with the mc20 you get a quite cheap "80-300 5.6", which makes it way more versatile (telemacro, wildlife ...).
2. The price. The new 40-150 f4 pro starts at 900 Euro. At that pricepoint you can get a used 2.8 version in a great condition with guarantee.
But: For many people, who only shoot landscape/travel-stuff and want minimum weight with maximum reach, this lens could be a great choice. Maybe as a pair with the 12-40 2.8 for lower light. This would be a coverage from 24-300 equivalent at about 770 g. Another benefit: The two lenses share the same filter size.
Good ponts.
What’s about flare resistance?
Nice. Some comments/questions...
1. Is it true that the OM-1 *lacks* the high speed mechanical shutter speed of OM-Ds? (15 fps)
2. I assume that the electronic shutter supports a number of continuous shutter speeds, not only 50fps and 120fps?
3. Will the electronic shutter give non-blackout views for all continuous shutter speeds? Both EVF and LCD screen?
4. Apart from aperture, what are the advantages of the 12-40/2.8 II over the 12-45/4? The 12-45 is smaller, lighter, focuses closer. What about weather sealing? Focus speed? Etc?
5. The 40-150/4 looks nice *size wise*. It's a pity it doesn't have in-lens IS; I find that a big plus for the 12-100/4...
6. Is there a list of what maximum frame rate the various mZuiko lenses support wrt continuous AF with tracking for the AI modes?
1. Yes the fastest with mechanical shutter is 10fps. 2. Yes 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 50, 60, 100 and 120fps.
3. No, only 25, 50, 60, 100 and 120fps.
Sharper aya. Might tempt me to upgrade. Coatings are very important to optical quality.
Thanks Peter nice review
Glad you enjoyed it
although the 40-150 is small and relatively light, it's a bit odd to have 3 lenses in the system with exactly the same range. I would have liked more to see something like a 50-250 f4 (as a match for the 12-45 f4) or a 25-150f4 (as a match for the 8-25 f4). The omission of the focus clutch and fn button is also not a step in the right direction in my opinion. Its good to see new lenses, but the should add ranges to the system that we don't have already covered. Maybe like a 100-250f4 (as a match for a 12-100)?? Or a 6mm f2 ultra wide?
Good point about the focal length.
I was thinking of getting the 8-25mm
And the 40-150mm
And if I sell a car I could get the 150-400mm
The new 12-40mm sure looks tempting but I'm sticking with the 12-100mm
It is nice to know if I am going to sell my OM1 mkII with 14-40 pro lens included or not... (hopefully)
Thanks for this quick overview Peter. I wish they could've added a real feature on the new 12-40, like stabilization or something. (Even Panasonic managed to fit one in on their tiny & cheap 12-32!) Also, you should've removed the hood from the 40-150 f/2.8 so that we can see a more accurate size comparison.
I had the hood on because it is constructed so that it is always on it. You can see the size when it is next to the 12-40mm f2.8.
@@ForsgardPeter Actually, it only takes a second to remove the hood. 😃 I've removed mine, as I find it adds too much bulk in my bag. And I've subscribed to Robin Wong's philosophy of "no lens hoods".
I wouldn't bother with the f4 40-150 on the Om-1 or EM1 series cameras when the f2.8 40-150 is light and easy enough to shoot with all day. On the -m5 and Em-10 though I think the f4 40-150 would balance up well and make a lot of sense.
Peter, will the new 12-40 be 100% compatible with the older Olympus bodies like the em1mrkII?
Yes it will.
I use 12-40 a lot, would be tempted to upgrade to version ii. Not sure the small difference you found makes any difference in real world…
Think I'll stick to my current lenses. The 12-100 F/4 IS covers 90% of my photography and the only upgrade I could think of is grabbing an MC-20 for certain nature walks. My old 12-40 f/2.8 also does exactly what I need it to do so no need to upgrade for pixel-peeping levels of improvement.
Can you use mc20 with 12-100?
@@TFPMadcow No, the teleconverters (mc14 & mc20) only work with the 300mm f4, 40-150mm f2.8, 100-400 f5-6.3 and the 150-400mm f4.5.
Is the 40-150 mm F4 pro very much better in terms of stills image quality than the 14-150 f4-f5.6 M. Zuiko zoom lens in outside daytime conditions (i.e. n decent light) ?
4-150mm F4 Pro is a better lens.
Thanks! The size comparison would be a bit more meaningful if both lenses had hoods.
Im using on the E-M1X the 7-14/2,8, the 12-100/4, the 40-150/2,8, the 300/4. 1.4 and 2.0 Teleconverter. and for portrait the 42,5/1,2 lumix. So I think no reason for upgrading to this new lenses.
Dear Peter, Looking forward to a more detailed review based on actual shots captured with new F12-40 F2.8 II, especially with Video shooting to review the auto focus facility, quality of videos and noise levels. Best Regards.
Unfortunately I do not have those lenses anymore.
I wonder if the new Panasonic sensor would have been a better choice for OM ?
Hard to say for sure.
will they work on the mark 5 II
Yes.
I think the new lens hood is one of the biggest improovments. The original was very fragile.
Wish they would update the 40-150pro with a new arca swiss foot as well
1:18 Lens hood. The 'old' LH66 used to fall off the lens at several occasions (the mechanism got worn off in time), the new LH66-D is a lot better and hasn't (yet) fallen off.
Were are these new lenses manufactured ....
I am not sure, but I think everything OMDS makes are made in Vietnam.
I love the 40-150mm f2.8 , I wish they make a 150mm 2.8 prime 😃
Depending on the size, a 150mm 1.8 prime could also be interesting and would probably help some people with indoor sports or nighttime sports under the lights.
I agree, I own 300mm f4 for nature photography & 40-150 but I only use the 40-150mm at 150mm pretty much all the time , that is why I wish they make the prime 2.8 2.0 1.8 either way I will be super happy
Peter, I have just pre ordered two OM1 bodies and the new 40 - 150mm f4. The OMDS website clearly shows this lens is compatible with 50fps, and this is an extract:
Compatibility: Compatible with 50fps Yes
Where did you find that info? It is not listed as compatible.
Information on OM system website
It does not support 50fps and continues AF. That info is miss leading of wrong on their website.
I contacted OMDS and yes it is misleading info on their website. They will fix it. Thanks for pointing that out!
I wouldn't recommend anyone buying the new 12-40, just get one used for half the price. I'm surprised that this lens is getting a refresh.
If I was going to stay with m43 I'd be interested in the 40-150, maybe.
The additional coating and weather-resistance mean nothing to me.
Peter, did you do any post on your field images?
No I did not post any images.
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No need to upgrade 12-40 II then, save to go for 25 1.2 better
Cleaning the front lens element? Seems to me you don't use an uv or protective filter for your lenses? Really?
No I do not use them.
It’s a bit like adding ice cubes to a single malt whiskey…
@@ForsgardPeter Ah. Interesting. Can you explain why?
Hey I do occasionally add a giant ice ball to Glenfiddich single malt or Hibiki blended pours. And I like it neat too.😁
I don't use protective filters either.
The only time I did was when I bought my first lens.
They don't improve image quality and the front element is quite durable.
Plus, I'm not paranoid.
should have been 50-200 F4