The Art Of The Choke: How The Los Angeles Chargers Became The Most Miserable Franchise In The NFL...

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    The Los Angeles Chargers have done nothing but lose, every single season seemingly no matter how talented the team is, even with great NFL players like Justin Herbert and Dan Fouts, the Chargers constantly fall short. Since the Chargers were founded, they've always been like this and things have only gotten worse over the years so join me as we go back in NFL history and figure out how the Chargers became the most cursed franchise in the NFL. Anyway, if you enjoyed this video, then like and comment if you want, and you can even subscribe if you think I've earned it.
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  • @tubfrog
    @tubfrog  11 месяцев назад +33

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    • @thetinman9124
      @thetinman9124 11 месяцев назад +1

      you can tho

    • @ImGoingSupersonic
      @ImGoingSupersonic 11 месяцев назад +3

      Tom Brady tape isn't obnoxious enough yet bro. 😂😂😂

    • @VidaBlue317
      @VidaBlue317 11 месяцев назад +1

      I thought this was gonna be about artichokes...
      I'm disappointed

    • @jushiesty3029
      @jushiesty3029 11 месяцев назад

      Can you do the 1980-13 Raiders as a Prequel to your Derek Carr video

    • @deanspanos8210
      @deanspanos8210 11 месяцев назад +1

      ......

  • @sthomasond
    @sthomasond 11 месяцев назад +107

    Philip Rivers is my first cousin. I was in 8th grade in 2006, and after watching him play on a very average college team for four years before being a backup for two, we were all so excited to see them be the best team the year he became the starter.
    I vividly remember being sick with the flu watching that patriots game, too cold to leave my blanket while the chargers tore out my heartstrings with some really dumb football.
    For fourteen years it was a few highs followed by very low lows.
    Happy for Philip though and he's enjoying the coaching life.
    I love all your videos, sir, and thank you for making this.

    • @leafinagust2775
      @leafinagust2775 11 месяцев назад +9

      Damn. If that’s true, that’s awesome. Philip was my childhood hero, it’s great to hear he’s enjoying life, and I’m sure the same can be said for everyone else who supports the Bolts.

    • @KGCMX
      @KGCMX 11 месяцев назад +6

      I hope he makes his way into the pro scene as a coach. I'd love to see him in a Chargers polo on the sidelines!!!!!!!!

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo 11 месяцев назад +3

      I hope he has enjoyed more time to spend with his kids once he's not in an all-consuming profession like the nfl

    • @MemphisMadeUs
      @MemphisMadeUs 10 месяцев назад +1

      Tell Phil to come coach the Chargers ‼️ please

    • @georgepimentel3072
      @georgepimentel3072 10 месяцев назад +1

      PHILLIP RIVERS HAD A FEMENINE TYPE OF THROWING THE BALL...BUT HE WAS GREAT DURING THE SEASON. THEN COME PLAYOFFS TIME LIKE HE GOT NERVOUS AND EITHER OVER THREW RECEIVERS OR THROW PASSES INTO THE GROWN MISSING RECEIVERS BY PLEANTY.
      THERE WAS ALSO A RIVALRY WITH HIM AND TOMLINSON. RIVERS WANTED THE PASS GAME AND TOMLINSON WANTED HIS RUN GAME...BUT I WAS GLAD THEY FAILED BECAUSE IN THOSE DAYS THEY USED TO BLOW UP THE RAIDERS LIKE 50 TO 10...OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • @nathanlarson6535
    @nathanlarson6535 11 месяцев назад +178

    59:25 Another thing that should be mentioned is that while Junior Seau's death is tragic and heartbreaking, he wasn't the only one. In fact, at least *NINE* players from the 1994 Chargers team that made it to the Super Bowl have passed away via absolutely bizarre circumstances or tragically died much younger than expected. Eight of the nine players died before they would've been 45 years old.
    Here are all of the players who have passed away so far:
    • Linebacker David Griggs, who died in a single-vehicle car accident in Florida in 1995 (just five months after Super Bowl 29). He was 28 years old.
    • Running back Rodney Culver, in 1996 he and his wife were on a flight that crashed in the Florida Everglades and killed all 110 people aboard. He was 26 years old.
    • Linebacker Doug Miller, who died in 1998 because he was struck by lightning *TWICE* while camping in Colorado. He was 29 years old.
    • Center Curtis Whitley, who died of a drug overdose in his trailer home in 2008. He passed away just one day after his 39th birthday.
    • Defensive end Chris Mims, who was found dead in his apartment in 2008 and was believed to have died of cardiac arrest due to an enlarged heart. He weighed 456 pounds when he died at just 38 years old.
    • Defensive tackle Shawn Lee, who died of cardiac arrest resulting from double pneuonia (he was also a diabetic). In 2011 he passed away at just 44 years old.
    • Linebacker Lewis Bush, who passed away from a heart attack in 2011. He was just 42 years old.
    • Linebacker Junior Seau, who committed suicide in 2012 at just 43 years old. He was the heart and soul of the Chargers throughout the 1990's and early 2000's and is probably the best player in franchise history. Most of these deaths are either linebackers or defensive linemen. Is that a coincidence? I'm not sure.
    • Center Courtney Hall, who passed away in 2021.
    There have been many chokes, collapses, and disappointments in Chargers history (seriously how did Marlon McCree fumble that ball?) but these tragedies have me 100% convinced that this team is truly cursed. God help this team.

    • @tubfrog
      @tubfrog  11 месяцев назад +57

      I did research on this too expect I didn’t really feel as if it fit with the video. An alarming amount of players from the Super Bowl 94 team are dead now which is obviously fucked. Thanks for sharing this tho I’m sure a ton of people will find it interesting

    • @georgepimentel3072
      @georgepimentel3072 10 месяцев назад +1

      HEY THEY DECIDED TO PLAY THE DANGEROUS GAME...THEY GOT PAID...THEIR CHOICE. MAYBE THE GAME SHOULD BE STOPPED/DISMISSED/ PROHIBITED... BUT THE MILLIONS THEY MAKE IS SO GREAT...

    • @qualicumjack3906
      @qualicumjack3906 9 месяцев назад +27

      @@georgepimentel3072
      That guy, everyone

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@qualicumjack3906 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @marcrussell8593
      @marcrussell8593 8 месяцев назад

      @georgepimentel3072 Millions??? Oh, the players make Millions. The LEAGUE??? BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of dollars. Especially that the National FIXball League has entered into an unholy alliance with all the Vegas-based booming agents: DraftKings, etc al.
      The National Fixball League l worships one thing- MONEY!!!

  • @brandoncowan4422
    @brandoncowan4422 11 месяцев назад +402

    One of the worst choices the organization ever made was firing Marty Schotenhimer

    • @roseroselyne9045
      @roseroselyne9045 11 месяцев назад +3

      He was a choker that couldn't lead a team to a super bowl win

    • @Puvwilmo00
      @Puvwilmo00 11 месяцев назад +56

      @@roseroselyne9045idk, i think the “choker” label with Marty is a lil unwarranted. Whenever Marty’s team lost in the playoffs, more often than not, it was just bad luck or a random wave of bullshit beyond his control.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@roseroselyne9045 You're a choker until you're not. And he still is the closest the organization got since. At this point you can't disprove it's the organization and not that coach who is the choker. And maybe they deserved each other.

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 11 месяцев назад +37

      ​@@roseroselyne9045Did Marty engineer a 98½-yard drive to tie against his defense? Did Marty not do his blocking assignment on a draw play, resulting in a fumble? Did Marty miss three FGs at home? Did Marty not get down right away after what should have been a game-sealing INT?

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 11 месяцев назад

      A.J. Smith is a nitwit

  • @mvpg1344
    @mvpg1344 11 месяцев назад +599

    As a Chargers fan, I’ve learned a very good life skill that I am never hurt when I’m let down by anybody.

    • @gv1071
      @gv1071 11 месяцев назад +13

      That's a lot of words for saying:
      "I'm a choking loser."
      😂😂😂

    • @bighomiechanga9972
      @bighomiechanga9972 11 месяцев назад +35

      @@gv1071I’m sure mvpg was on the field during all of these charger chokes

    • @gv1071
      @gv1071 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@bighomiechanga9972 Did I specify what he was choking on?
      🤣🤣🤣

    • @bighomiechanga9972
      @bighomiechanga9972 11 месяцев назад

      @@gv1071 that seems a very stupid cop out to cover the fact that your original statement was incredibly stupid, I would suggest an immediate deletion to protect your public image, in case future employers mistake you for a retard

    • @Jumpforce21
      @Jumpforce21 11 месяцев назад +9

      Me as an Arizona Cardinals fan// I feel your pain 😭🤣

  • @cameraboxer
    @cameraboxer 11 месяцев назад +167

    as a charger fan for my entire life, looking up to LT and the contraception man himself Philip Rivers. I have felt pain more than most could see from football. and I guess I'm ready to relive it all again.

    • @atrusty9729
      @atrusty9729 11 месяцев назад +3

      Same here brother......'06 😢

    • @KGCMX
      @KGCMX 11 месяцев назад +1

      If only I could be a casual Chargers fan that didn't just also absolutely LOVE football. It would really help the perennial heartache.

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky 11 месяцев назад +2

      You guys had several legit contender seasons with those two. The 2006 divisional was tough to watch. And I had no dog in that fight.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo 11 месяцев назад

      @@jpmnky *Almost* half the teams don't have a superbowl. Being a contender is not so bad. It's the most some teams can have as a goal for their season. Years later, it's something we should celabrate instead of being a mark of shame and pain.

    • @strykerfielding3430
      @strykerfielding3430 11 месяцев назад

      Ahhhhhhhhh I love being a lions fan. Y'alls issue is expectation, if you just expect nothing then when you start 5-1 life feels gooood

  • @willowrose9814
    @willowrose9814 11 месяцев назад +43

    As much as I know that my team is cursed, I love them too much to leave. Truly an abusive relationship.

  • @barnabasseadog7660
    @barnabasseadog7660 11 месяцев назад +30

    From a long suffering San Diego Chargers fan, this is the best video about the cursed Bolts. A history lesson I have lived through in real time. They no longer represent my hometown and when the Chargers are irrelevant, I don't even pay attention to the NFL. So long as Spanos keeps his current logo, described as a rainbow, or a wet noodle, they will continue to be CURSED. Ya'lls BTFU, I'm going surfing.

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 11 месяцев назад +41

    As a Vikings fan, it's a bleak existence. I pour out a drink to all Chargers fans.

  • @PeterEBI
    @PeterEBI 11 месяцев назад +19

    Firing your coach after going 14-2 is not a good sign of a stable organization

    • @johnselwitz5362
      @johnselwitz5362 Месяц назад +2

      It was quite the knee jerk reaction. I think those within the Chargers organization let what the media was saying influence their decision to fire Marty, which was “Schottenheimer can’t win in the playoffs and never has been able to”. And in the past, Marty’s coaching in the postseason has been the downfall for many teams he’s coached whether it be the Browns, Chiefs or the Chargers in 2004, he coached way too conservatively in so many of those big games. But the loss to the Patriots in 2006 was not Marty’s fault. The Chargers players absolutely shit the bed. They turned the ball over four times, and no team can do something like that and still beat the Patriots of that era. Rivers had a horrible game, those sacks he took on third down were momentum killers. Kaeding missed the field goal that would have sent it to overtime. The Chargers were penalized at crucial moments in the game. If McCree simply goes to the ground after intercepting that pass, then San Diego wins, but he allowed a 35 year old receiver to strip him of the ball. Marty didn’t coach a bad game, his players choked and let him down, thus costing him his job.

  • @justinsundstrom8976
    @justinsundstrom8976 11 месяцев назад +74

    Thank you for making an hour-long video of my favorite team, reminding me that pain, inconsistency, and misery is all we are, and forever will be.

    • @OriginalOne1960
      @OriginalOne1960 11 месяцев назад +4

      The Chargers name and logo is a War Battle Horse “Charging”
      Into Battle.
      The proof is in the Horse SHIELD logo and the USC Charge!!!!! Chant.
      Barron Hilton explains the Origin in a 2009 Los Angeles Times interview and clearly states it had nothing to do with a credit card lmao 🤣
      The Los Angeles Chargers won the Western Division finishing with a 10-4 record and made it to the Championship game….
      Making it ti the Championship game the first season ever in Chargers history isn’t bad
      Now the lack of Success in SD was pretty bad BUT they r now back playing in the Original birthplace of L.A. city of Champions eventually they can and will win a Super Bowl in L.A. especially with young phenom franchise QB Justin Herbert.
      Let’s Go Los Angeles Battle Chargers!
      Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!!!!
      ⚡️🐴 🏈

    • @malcomlovejoy
      @malcomlovejoy 2 месяца назад

      Justin..Just .wait till THIS year

  • @adamthespinygiant
    @adamthespinygiant 11 месяцев назад +23

    As UrinatingTree would say: “F*** you, Spanos!!”

  • @TheMoastWorst
    @TheMoastWorst 11 месяцев назад +97

    As a long time Chargers fan (until they left San Diego) I knew what to expect from the team Any year they were picked as a favorite to make the Super Bowl I KNEW that year would be a complete wash. They are not an organization that can handle high expecations.

    • @kaminsod4077
      @kaminsod4077 11 месяцев назад +15

      Being a chargers fan is a unique sort of agony. I still can't wrap my head around them not getting to the super bowl with Fouts, but making it with Stan Humphries.

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@kaminsod4077 the AFC championship was our Super Bowl that year. Nobody thought they were going to beat the 49ers. I just didn't want them to look bad in the loss ... that didn't end well.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TheMoastWorstI mean Brandon Staley doesn't help

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@maskedman5657 I wouldn't know. I haven't followed the team since they left San Diego. Once I lost the team I grew up with my interest in the NFL declined. I still watch random NFL games here and there but nothing like when I had a "dog in the fight".

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheMoastWorst I gotcha. Well if you come back you can always change teams

  • @emanuelpalomares616
    @emanuelpalomares616 11 месяцев назад +229

    You can't spell Chargers without choke.
    Edit:Thank you for all the likes and the comments.

  • @bobbybands1957
    @bobbybands1957 11 месяцев назад +16

    Them giving up on Drew Brees only added to their curse. Thankyou Chargers i live in New Orleans life long Saints fan here!👍

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse 11 месяцев назад +45

    I still can't believe the Chargers were forced out of San Diego. I mean, I get it, the Jets and Giants have a similar situation but San Diego is a great place and they had some really great fans, supporting them team every year, win or lose.

    • @johncreel5048
      @johncreel5048 11 месяцев назад +3

      What great fans? Even in San Diego, there were usually more visiting fans than home fans. Against the faiders, it could be as high as 80% Raiders fans.

    • @sttaylor215
      @sttaylor215 11 месяцев назад +7

      Forced out? Spanos was offered a sweet land deal for the Mission Valley location and he declined because their plan was always to move to Los Angeles. Remember they were going to build a stadium in Carson with the Raiders. They even had the land purchased

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@johncreel5048 BS...I bet you never even went to any games. In the 80's it was nuts. The tailgating would start at 9am! Huge fan base. The Raider games were different, the Raider fans would bring their own violence down from Oakland for those games but all the others was pure Bolts

    • @djsjetsteve1
      @djsjetsteve1 10 месяцев назад

      @@kendallevans4079any time the Cowboys played the Chargers in San Diego it was at least 50/50 if not 60-40 Cowboys fans so the Raiders are not the only fans to take over that Stadium. Especially in the 90s

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 10 месяцев назад

      @@djsjetsteve1 I'm talking 80's...Fouts era

  • @SmokeBurp
    @SmokeBurp 11 месяцев назад +11

    My pops played for them in the 70's until the FBI showed up at our house and asked him about the drug abuse going on with his teammates. He got out of there fast after that. He really liked Fouts, Unitas, Mackay and Carl Mauch tho. There were some good people on the team.

  • @Rowanravens5220
    @Rowanravens5220 11 месяцев назад +22

    Thank-you! My brother has just gotten into nfl. We live in New Zealand, he picked the chargers as his team and I couldn't think up or remember aaalllll of the things that sum up their history. So thank you for doing that for me 😂

    • @jojijoestar7233
      @jojijoestar7233 11 месяцев назад +3

      Hopefully your brother gets to see the Chargers win a ring because he’s going to be in for some suffering at this rate.

    • @juicediowaynekend5221
      @juicediowaynekend5221 11 месяцев назад

      I'm from NZ too except I'm a packers fan (been one since 2014)
      Good luck

  • @DanielAranda-ct1jj
    @DanielAranda-ct1jj 11 месяцев назад +6

    This year I have now been a Charger fan for 50 years, the fact that I am New Mexico and back in the 70's,all I could do was watch the scores as bottom of tv as we watched the Cowboys, Got 3 brother's all Cowboy fans.
    My teen years Coryell became coach and I was flying high with air Coryell. Though my heart was broken , never in my wildest dream 40 -44 ,years later would I have been told that we still be seeking are first super bowl win.
    I guess I become pretty good at knowing when the Chargers are going to blow it. When the Chargers we're up on Jaguar's with a big lead I knew I was in for a heart break, I actually turned off the TV cause I need they were going to loose ,and I could not take the heart break. If you know football you would of know this , I played ,and I remember playing a team that we could not stop.
    They kept turning ball over , I played defense, though we won after game I knew that team was better , players know ,
    With all that being said I love my team ,Though I never have watched them Play live which is a dream of mine since I was 10,(against Dallas if I had choice at home) some one help my dream come true. I can now watch them play every game.
    The worst way for us to loose in my opinion is when we loose cause of a coaching or a bad call by a ref.. The games that I know could go either way there tough on me ,the heartbreaks don't get any easier to take , there is no getting use to it. They actually get harder!!!!
    All I want is to know how it feels when your team is the SuperBowl Champs ,I always told myself I would subscribe to sports illustrated,to get the gifts ,don't know if they do that anymore.
    Heck I could go on for ever when talking about my team.
    I will know when we have that Super Bowl team when I see them , I believe there in the right path , but feel Rivers didn't get the effort they seem to be doing for Herbert.Thats is a whole another book.(story). Herbert is a God sent. Young man as great a quarterback and even a better human being.Think he will take us to the promise land!!!. Go Chargers
    Chargers for life fan here in New Mexico.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo 11 месяцев назад

      "knowing when the Chargers are going to blow it." Sometimes I feel the same way. Other times I wonder if that is some form of trauma. Maybe that feeling is not real, past experiences mold your brain and it tells you of repeating patterns. But due to trauma, you start seeing patterns where there isn't. Because history does not repeat itself, things might look similar, but it's always new.
      The only problem is that it can only be proven it's not just trauma if the chargers break the mold and win. And if they win, and there's no mold anymore, how do you prove there was a mold in the first place? In other words, it's all nonsense in the end and we can't forget to appreciate the fun in discoursing about nothing.

  • @marcrussell8593
    @marcrussell8593 10 месяцев назад +4

    As a lufelong Bills fan, who experienced the pain of the 1980 playoff loss to the Chargers when the Bills had that game in the bag. Fouts to Jimmy Smith. Nuff said.

  • @ogoakland5437
    @ogoakland5437 11 месяцев назад +18

    OMG … 😅 the time and research given to this Documentary! Thanks TubFrog.

  • @Mr_black_aka
    @Mr_black_aka 11 месяцев назад +5

    Being the chargers franchise is basically trusting a three year old child not to eat a lego

  • @jacobwilliams1223
    @jacobwilliams1223 11 месяцев назад +4

    I appreciate you clarify that the Chargers in 2010 led in only yards on offense and defense. So many people run with "CHARGERS HAD THE #1 OFFENSE & DEFENSE EVER!" when talking them but those stats need context. Great video as usual.

  • @Wolf_3125
    @Wolf_3125 11 месяцев назад +5

    Because of Spanos. You can take the Chargers out of San Diego, but you can't take the San Diego out of the Chargers.

  • @DanielAranda-ct1jj
    @DanielAranda-ct1jj 11 месяцев назад +3

    You were right in about the punter being the MVP of the playoff win over the Colts, To me the best game ever by a punter in NFL history by far. If you haven't watched the game I highly recommend it. He was amazing. Yes the punter was amazing!

  • @jacob9538
    @jacob9538 11 месяцев назад +5

    26:00 "They went from 1983 to 1985 without A SINGLE WINNING RECORD!"
    Bruh that's only three seasons lol.

    • @dfp_01
      @dfp_01 5 месяцев назад +2

      The Bucs and Saints were far worse for far longer

    • @esdeathisbae9480
      @esdeathisbae9480 4 месяца назад

      And yet those 2 teams have won a Superbowl not our good friends the chargers

  • @DrakeyBerg
    @DrakeyBerg 11 месяцев назад +13

    Ah yes, being a Chargers fan. One of the hardest things in my life.

  • @Pandaboybk
    @Pandaboybk 11 месяцев назад +5

    Chilling and gaming, looking for some long form content, see a new TubFrog deep dive. What a time to be alive!

  • @okie2280
    @okie2280 11 месяцев назад +13

    I really wish more people knew about you man the amount of effort and heart you put into your videos are amazing I have so much respect for you keep up the grind

  • @mcren6781
    @mcren6781 11 месяцев назад +3

    Justin Herbert's body language reminds me so much of Marcus Mariota. He used to always walk with his head down in practice and seemed passive just like Herbert. He wasn't like that his first year or 2 it seemed to have gotten way worse as he started getting hit and injured more and more.

  • @luvmuzik4me
    @luvmuzik4me 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have been a Charger fan since about 2002. I have felt the heartbreak like all of the other Charger fans have felt. Why am I still a fan? I have to think that it is because they are an exciting team. Some teams are pretty dull, but never the Chargers.

  • @eliavim3169
    @eliavim3169 11 месяцев назад +5

    Phillip Rivers “The Reproduction Machine” 😂

  • @gigabyte9584
    @gigabyte9584 11 месяцев назад +5

    0:03 Chokers

  • @StellarFella
    @StellarFella 8 месяцев назад +4

    The Chargers have a mediocre tightwad creep for an owner.

  • @raymondwalter7625
    @raymondwalter7625 11 месяцев назад +3

    I've learned to love the Chargers, and I've also learned not to get my hopes up. we love you herbert

  • @amaze_z1953
    @amaze_z1953 11 месяцев назад +18

    Of course i get a video named "the art of the choke" after my Longhorns choked the game vs OU 😐

    • @Salad_Bar06
      @Salad_Bar06 11 месяцев назад

      That game destroyed me

    • @twobadour
      @twobadour 11 месяцев назад +1

      As both an Oklahoma Sooners fan and an Atlanta Falcons fan, I’m not sure whether to laugh or feel sympathy

  • @freezhollywood
    @freezhollywood 8 месяцев назад +2

    Surprised u didn’t show that ravens game where the ravens were like 3rd n 25. And ray rice ran to the 1st down somehow

  • @guyturners
    @guyturners 11 месяцев назад +4

    As someone who is still a lifelong chargers fan, pain

  • @PiyachonYuenyongHYDE
    @PiyachonYuenyongHYDE 11 месяцев назад +3

    Keep this in mind folks. at one point the Chargers have Drew Brees, LaDanian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Junior Seau on the same team.
    that's a Hall of Fame list right there. but somehow they didn't accomplish anything!!!!!

  • @pepelucho1751
    @pepelucho1751 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was at that Patriot game in '06. That single game defined what it is like to be a Charger fan. It's like having an alcoholic abusive partner. I don't trust them anymore.

  • @mihalis55_33
    @mihalis55_33 4 месяца назад +2

    I wonder what your thoughts are on how the changes they have made now compared to 6 months ago

  • @madrecka
    @madrecka 5 месяцев назад +2

    As a 49ers fan the Chargers will always San Diego's team to me.

  • @genemorgan736
    @genemorgan736 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm from san diego, born and raised and this video is everything. I haven't rooted for them since they've moved. I dunno, I just hate that they moved.

  • @hankbunyon8654
    @hankbunyon8654 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve been a fan for over 50yrs… nothing but heartbreak

  • @bobdrago69657
    @bobdrago69657 11 месяцев назад +3

    Dan Fouts / Rivers QB eras, John Jefferson, Kellen Winslow Sr., LDT, Junior Seau, etc those were some great teams. Those respective teams should’ve won at least one SB, but lost big time in the playoffs and the SB they did play in. My Niners won their second SB partially thanks to the acquisition of Big Louie Kelcher, Big Hands Johnson and the incomparable sack machine, Fred Dean. Who knows with the Chargers, Some kinda curse?

  • @woodah33
    @woodah33 10 месяцев назад +3

    If you can survive being a chargers fan, life can't hurt you

  • @aurianzarrineh2633
    @aurianzarrineh2633 11 месяцев назад +2

    I just wanted to say man this channel is awesome, your knowledge on football history is insane and you put an insane amount of research into every video. You should be 10 times bigger then you are now, keep up the good work 🤝

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 11 месяцев назад +2

    This was a tough one for sure as I’ve loved the Chargers over the years. Feels like another cursed franchise like the Vikings.

  • @seanmcnally4818
    @seanmcnally4818 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's hard to say, but there are good arguements.
    The Good: 1963 AFL Champs, The Miami Steam Bath, 1994 AFC Champs
    The Bad: The Freezer Bowl, 14-2 one & done in 2006, Rivers playing with torn ACL, The Choke at Duval
    The Ugly: Ryan Leaf, Eli Manning getting drafted, Destroyed in Super Bowl XXIX
    I'm sure there's more, but that's all i can think of right now.

  • @drunkenmmamaster419
    @drunkenmmamaster419 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a broncos fan it never gets old seeing the Chargers underachieve constantly with such great teams they’ve had since the early 2000’s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @felipegarcia8383
    @felipegarcia8383 7 месяцев назад +1

    You cant use the traveling affect in 81’ as a excuse.The Raiders played the browns in freezer type game and then travel to a warm environment in San Diego
    Team players got sick and 1 got close to getting frost bite.That 1980 Oakland Raiders Team was amazing led by the great Jim plunkett.

  • @wildruid10
    @wildruid10 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a Broncos fan its almost hilarious how well and fast the Chargers franchise can amass a embarrassing riches of a talented rosters of talent and squander it year in year out.

  • @ronin7997
    @ronin7997 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent retrospective and commentary on a truly cursed franchise. Been a suffering fan since Fouts was under center, and you captured the highs and lows of this team very well. Chargers have mastered choking like no other team!

  • @jal2550
    @jal2550 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was Extremley painful to watch😪...Except that GLORIOUS 94 playoff run

  • @rustyshackleford2185
    @rustyshackleford2185 3 месяца назад +1

    I was there in 2008 wk 1 ..great game for carolina and a great year ..biggest thing i remember was all the charger fans knew hiring norv turner was not the answer

  • @chicagodude8888
    @chicagodude8888 11 месяцев назад +2

    Vikings have more postseason nut kicks than any other franchise and the Cardinals haven’t won a championship in 75 years. The Lions one postseason win in the super-bowl era is impossible to top. Those 3 have it worse.

  • @bumpfit3020
    @bumpfit3020 8 месяцев назад +1

    TubFrog is quickly becoming my favorite documentarian

  • @Joe.Foleyy
    @Joe.Foleyy 11 месяцев назад +2

    Damnit how does this kid not have more subs, work is impeccable.

  • @gatorbodine2011
    @gatorbodine2011 11 месяцев назад +3

    2:41 To be fair 100$ back then was close to about 1000 today 🤷😂

  • @chachimendiola9042
    @chachimendiola9042 11 месяцев назад +2

    Im a trippin or was Quentin Jammer not mentioned once?

  • @ebenvitalic4428
    @ebenvitalic4428 11 месяцев назад +2

    We've been realy cursed since the day they let 55 go Rip then Marty .fan since 1980

    • @ebenvitalic4428
      @ebenvitalic4428 11 месяцев назад +1

      Amd if it wasn't for Leaf being terrible we would of never got LT

  • @ArmandoVerdugo8
    @ArmandoVerdugo8 11 месяцев назад +2

    You went through what went wrong pretty good in that 2006 playoff collapse but there was another penalty that Marlon mcree had that also gave the patriots the ball back on a 4th down what would've gave us the ball back but they got a touchdown out of. Also Vincent Jackson dropped a touchdown that game and so did Malcolm floyd

  • @matthewmalpass9999
    @matthewmalpass9999 10 месяцев назад +1

    When they fired 14 and 2 Schottenheimer they were finished forever. Everyone knew then, they weren't a professional football team.

  • @acemacneill5783
    @acemacneill5783 9 месяцев назад +1

    The 1987 team had one of the worst collapses in history. They started out 8-1, only to lose six straight and miss the playoffs at 8-7.

  • @reefacheefa8990
    @reefacheefa8990 11 месяцев назад +2

    i love and hate this video as a chargers fan 😭😭

  • @metalanarchy5186
    @metalanarchy5186 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Chargers have had some of the greatest teams and most talented teams that never get it done at point they had 2 hall of fame qbs Bress and Rivers a hall of fame RB LT two big time other RBs in Sprolles and Michale the Burrner turnner Antino Gates its sad that AJ Smith had to run off so many Greats lets not forget about Dan Foutes Air Corell its crazy to me that some of these absoulte star filled teams never got it done

  • @MikesBetter
    @MikesBetter 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tubbys “Ok So” is one of the most iconic intros on sports RUclips

    • @dfp_01
      @dfp_01 5 месяцев назад

      It lets you know he's about to unleash the lore

  • @josephnorris4095
    @josephnorris4095 11 месяцев назад +1

    Then there is my Buffalo Bills, which are experiencing the Art of Unfairness. None of the other top end teams are experiencing the level of top level player end of season injuries like the Bills do. Screw London, I hope the Bills never go back to that concrete field.

  • @Dannyedelman4231
    @Dannyedelman4231 8 месяцев назад +3

    Justin Herbert is a great QB

  • @thomasgallegos3846
    @thomasgallegos3846 11 месяцев назад +1

    left out that mike Riley (chargers coach at the time) begged GM bobby bethard to draft Tom Brady in the 6th round with the chargers on the clock , instead beathard went with Shannon Taylor and the chargers went 1-15 that year and bethard retired.

  • @brianluisi7616
    @brianluisi7616 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bro you are my favorite football Chanel, you do you, you will be at millions of subs, trust me, one day your going to wake up and be RUclips famous as long as you don't change, you do you, thanks for all the great videos

  • @s.l.nicholson4240
    @s.l.nicholson4240 9 месяцев назад +1

    They basically said the same thing about the Steelers before the 1970's and the 49ers before the 1980's.

  • @timothysisneros
    @timothysisneros Месяц назад

    Love this channel, dude. Great stuff. Even when some of the stats or names aren't exactly right, it's can't be denied. And as a Broncos fan, I'm here to see the chargers charger, and with quick quips of a self-deprecating raiders fan 😂 I love it!

  • @Stj209
    @Stj209 11 месяцев назад +1

    63 to now is 60 years not 50, just adding to their misery.
    Great videos love the content keep it up!

  • @sojinkim5887
    @sojinkim5887 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Chargers are the most gut-wrenching team I have ever seen. So frustrating!

  • @Aztecism
    @Aztecism 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why should Marlon McCree have hit the turf? There was still over six minutes left in the game at the time of his interception. NE could have caused a three and out and gotten the ball right back anyway. I agree with his decision to try and run the ball up-field, it was just a great strip by Troy Brown.

  • @shaquillerollins708
    @shaquillerollins708 5 месяцев назад +1

    Patiently waiting on the cardinals bears, and buccaneers videos

  • @JoshuaSmith-dx3io
    @JoshuaSmith-dx3io 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a video surrounding the Eli rivers ben draft that would be so great

  • @CDLMgolions
    @CDLMgolions 3 месяца назад

    When I was young I was still trying to find my team. I liked Peyton Manning, but really wasn't a Colts fan. So, I decided to pick my then home team the 2006-08 Chargers. I went to one game and fell in love with the game of football. In 2008 I watched the Lions go 0-16 and decided to switch my loyal fandom to my home state's team, the Detroit Lions. But man, watching that team was amazing! I'm a sucker for the underdog story and Lions are debatably one of the biggest underdogs in Football (It's between Lions, Bills, and Browns probably). But man, that chargers team...

  • @DuisteinAffe-qo4ie
    @DuisteinAffe-qo4ie 9 месяцев назад +1

    i cant focus with a literal GOAT on the wall in the back

  • @briannab.2330
    @briannab.2330 11 месяцев назад +1

    As sad as I was to see the Chargers go, I'll always be proud of San Diego for not giving in, and not passing the measure for the city to fund the new stadium.

  • @anthonybaruch9192
    @anthonybaruch9192 11 месяцев назад +1

    I distinctly remember Jackie Moon acquiring Ed Mannix to the Tropics for a Old Dishwasher and a signed copy of "Love Me Sexy" so $100 bucks aint such a bargain if u ask me..

  • @dakotajohnson4229
    @dakotajohnson4229 10 месяцев назад

    Youd almost forget that Kellen Winslow made it to the hall. I wouldnt say that his skills displayed in police academy overshadowed his NFL career, but it does confuse things. Imagine that dude being your teammate though.

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have very vague memories of the infamous SD/Miami game where Kellen Winslow gave his soul. But I definitely remember the coldest game ever the following week. That was about the point in my life where I was paying attention to the football that was always on at my house.
    Still can't believe not one of those 2000s era teams made a superbowl. Tomlinson was amazing and Rivers was one of the best in the league. In retrospect, it's even more surprising they managed to blow all those opportunities.
    I've always had a soft spot for the Chargers, but man, Dean Spanos makes it hard to still care about them. That's a team that needs sold and moved back to San Diego.

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 11 месяцев назад +1

      it doesnt help that Tomlinson and Gates were always injured during the playoffs and Darren Sproles had to pick up the slack

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ernestogastelum9123Billy Volek got them to the 2007 AFC Championship game with both Rivers and LT hurt.

  • @n4cer1983
    @n4cer1983 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for producing an amazing video. I wish the mainstream sports media would do a story on this. San Diego has never won a championship in any sport. The sports media only cared about the Red Sox not winning a World Series up until 2004 and the Cubs not winning a World Series up until 2016. Those two teams were always being headlined as being cursed. However, both those teams had fair trade-offs. Boston had the Celtics winning championships And the patriots winning Super Bowls. And Chicago had Michael Jordan and the Bulls winning championships and the 1985 Bears. They could at least say they won championships in other sports. San Diego cannot even say that. But the mainstream sports media doesn’t do their due diligence and cover this topic.

  • @declanwallingford9395
    @declanwallingford9395 11 месяцев назад +1

    I feel like this video was meant for me. Thank you tubfrog.

  • @GenoBisconte
    @GenoBisconte 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dude you made one huge glaring error... Drew Brees was not hurt when they drafted Philip Rivers. Drew Brees was completely healthy... But Marty schottenheimer had been playing Doug flutie and they weren't sure after his slump season if breeze was any good. Double check that great video

  • @unclerustica7335
    @unclerustica7335 11 месяцев назад +1

    As bad as it is for the Chargers, wherever they are now, it ain’t nothing compared to the Detroit Lions.

  • @maxsenopole6444
    @maxsenopole6444 11 месяцев назад +1

    "Okay, so..." We're in for a good one today.

  • @esdeathisbae9480
    @esdeathisbae9480 3 месяца назад +1

    If the patriots were the best team in nfl history in 2007 they wouldn't have CHOKED in the Superbowl to a wildcard team

  • @larrycarroll5783
    @larrycarroll5783 11 месяцев назад +1

    You neglected to mention former Charger Bryan Still,who,near the turn of the century,was drafted by the Chargers out of
    Virginia Tech. He showed promise when he was drafted,but he was a huge bust. Larry Carroll😇😨

  • @ryanfrancis7393
    @ryanfrancis7393 10 месяцев назад

    This video could’ve been longer, but still great. Wish you had touched on the 2013 season and a little more of the Herbert era so far

  • @jacobg5122
    @jacobg5122 Месяц назад

    I still remember the announcer in the 2008 divisional round idly talking about how to pronounce Mike Scifres' last name (apparently it's like Cyprus) as Santonio Holmes blasts through their whole special teams roster for a touchdown in the background

  • @harnoorranhawa6962
    @harnoorranhawa6962 7 месяцев назад +1

    in the process of binging all of bros videos

  • @jluchette
    @jluchette 11 месяцев назад +3

    New TubFrog to kick off week 5 & I’m here for it!

  • @raypavey1102
    @raypavey1102 11 месяцев назад +1

    Something else comes to mind when I think about the chargers “F U SPANOS” -urinating tree

  • @martavion873
    @martavion873 9 месяцев назад +4

    Chargers blow a 27-0 lead in wild card nobody talks about that but the falcons blow a 28-3 lead eveybody talks about that

  • @damagekritical
    @damagekritical 3 месяца назад +1

    The fucking tom Brady pic in the background killed me

  • @brandonmitchell6351
    @brandonmitchell6351 11 месяцев назад +2

    Being a chargers fan is not for the weak

  • @BOLTUPFAMILY
    @BOLTUPFAMILY Месяц назад

    It’s still hard to believe we had one of the greatest franchise runs for 5 years comparable to the modern day chiefs or niners and didn’t see a single Super Bowl in that time