This guy had SOOO MUCH NFA HISTORY. Please keep doing the video documentation... your videos will truly be appreciated one day. I really appreciate the background knowledge, of the import information and the company's Scott mentions. It takes me back to when I was a pre teen drooling over SHOTGUN NEWS.
My department is still using the M16 A1 full auto (minus the auto sear) because they are free and on loan from the Military. No optic, McGyvered lights on the hand guard.
The Norincos often had very loose headspace which for a military rifle was fine. I fit a USGI bolt to mine and it brought it right in spec which helped the brass last a bit longer. It’s still tough on brass, but better for sure than stock. USGI flash hiders and rear sights were often nice upgrades as well. Mine shoots amazing in a USGI fiberglass or Boyd’s stock.
I have an early Federal Ordnance M14A receiver that was built with a Polytech parts kit, and it runs like a well oiled machine.. its never gave me a single issue.... It even out shoots my buddies Springfield Armory M1A
@@michaellyons8236 exactly the same mixed reviews. My understanding that federal ordinance didn’t make anything they subcontracted just like Century did back then the only thing I can remember about them is if they worked they worked if they didn’t work you couldn’t make them work. If the didn’t work they were often out of spec. I’ve never heard anything about them being brittle or soft like the Chinese guns were
So much knowledge from MACHINEGUN DAD. I remember these being imported along with the NORINCO Sporter. They were a budget version of the M1A, I remember alot of bias towards these, because they were made in China. The M1A1 sporter from Norinco was looked at like a cheap Chinese Clone. Any idea how that would have worked with Springfield..... as in were these a license copy????
Okay this has been WAY OVERBLOWN over time!! When the norincos first came in in 88 I believe, there was a batch of a thousand or maybe slightly more that had soft bolts. This was caught and was remedied by Norinco. Some bolts would deface a bit on the bolt face and have excessive wear on the lugs. Some companies offered to re-harden the bolts, in fact Fulton Armory still offers this. Most people bought US GI bolts lapped them and fit them in their Poly's and all was right but the news spread like wildfire and that was it, they were all that way. If you have a low serial gun, simply check the bolt, if it's been replaced, no worries. If it has a heat lot number, no worries it's been re-hardened (most places put a number on them). If the gun's serial is low enough to be an 88-90 gun and it's unmarked, simply have it checked or just send it to Fulton for good measure. The Norincos are fantastic guns and have advantages that other brands do not in fact.
@@bad74maverick1 - this is apocryphal but I do remember seeing an ad in Shotgun News back in the 90s I guess where a company was essentially saying, "the Chinese M1As are SOFT, buy ours!", blah blah. Oddly enough, I've never heard shooters who use the Norinco M1As complain and have only heard good things about them (aside from the examples you cited).
@@wes11bravo Yeah Springfield armory (I think it was them) got into a lot of trouble when the Norinco's were banned in 94'! They got caught in a huge scam involving the Poly's and "inspecting" them. After the ban SA (or someone, I think SA) offered to service Polytechs. Well the Poly's head space was off by a thousandth of an inch or so, but would lock up on a go no-go gauge correctly and was fine. SA told customers their barrel was out of spec and offered to replace it with theirs. Well at that time SA wasn't making M1A barrels chrome lined and the Poly's were. So they stated they were out of spec and replaced and kept the chrome lined barrels. They used them in custom match guns, and it was a gun magazine I think guns and ammo that did a review and found out where the chrome barrel came from. It was a huge dust up! I know shortly after that time SA started offering chrome lined barrels.
The Norinco M14's from 88-94 are some of the best rifles on the market. They are in a lot of ways better than the Springfields, purists will argue that, but the fact is, the Norinco's have a forged receiver and op-rod and chrome lined barrels. Springfield Armory doesn't do that. The only forged receivers made by Springfield don't have a trade mark after the name and are an NFA item lol. I have had mine for years and the only thing I did was remove the fake flash hider and put a real surplus one on, and I put a real M14 wood stock on mine.
It actually looks like you controlled it pretty well
We have a lot of the semi auto Norinco M14’s here in Canada
Fantastic guns.
This guy had SOOO MUCH NFA HISTORY. Please keep doing the video documentation... your videos will truly be appreciated one day. I really appreciate the background knowledge, of the import information and the company's Scott mentions. It takes me back to when I was a pre teen drooling over SHOTGUN NEWS.
Kinda weird that a police department wanted a full auto M14 when the military didn't want it
My department is still using the M16 A1 full auto (minus the auto sear) because they are free and on loan from the Military. No optic, McGyvered lights on the hand guard.
So put a handle mounted acog on them. I carried an ar15 with fixed sights that I mounted an acog on for 12 years
The Norincos often had very loose headspace which for a military rifle was fine. I fit a USGI bolt to mine and it brought it right in spec which helped the brass last a bit longer. It’s still tough on brass, but better for sure than stock. USGI flash hiders and rear sights were often nice upgrades as well. Mine shoots amazing in a USGI fiberglass or Boyd’s stock.
@@Wblair8772 the semi norincos were known for bad parts. This select fire one seems like it’s in spec
I have an early Federal Ordnance M14A receiver that was built with a Polytech parts kit, and it runs like a well oiled machine.. its never gave me a single issue.... It even out shoots my buddies Springfield Armory M1A
Wow, federal ordinance I haven’t heard about them in years
@@psp1921tsmg what have you heard about them??? Because everything I've read is a mix of good and bad
@@michaellyons8236 exactly the same mixed reviews. My understanding that federal ordinance didn’t make anything they subcontracted just like Century did back then the only thing I can remember about them is if they worked they worked if they didn’t work you couldn’t make them work. If the didn’t work they were often out of spec. I’ve never heard anything about them being brittle or soft like the Chinese guns were
I love your content
So much knowledge from MACHINEGUN DAD. I remember these being imported along with the NORINCO Sporter. They were a budget version of the M1A, I remember alot of bias towards these, because they were made in China. The M1A1 sporter from Norinco was looked at like a cheap Chinese Clone. Any idea how that would have worked with Springfield..... as in were these a license copy????
I've heard that these are actually better than Springfield Armory guns in semi auto.
Polytech M14s had a bad rap over concerns of the bolts deforming over time. Based on your experience is this overstated?
Yes. I’ve heard that to yet never knew anyone who had to replace one
Okay this has been WAY OVERBLOWN over time!! When the norincos first came in in 88 I believe, there was a batch of a thousand or maybe slightly more that had soft bolts. This was caught and was remedied by Norinco. Some bolts would deface a bit on the bolt face and have excessive wear on the lugs. Some companies offered to re-harden the bolts, in fact Fulton Armory still offers this. Most people bought US GI bolts lapped them and fit them in their Poly's and all was right but the news spread like wildfire and that was it, they were all that way. If you have a low serial gun, simply check the bolt, if it's been replaced, no worries. If it has a heat lot number, no worries it's been re-hardened (most places put a number on them). If the gun's serial is low enough to be an 88-90 gun and it's unmarked, simply have it checked or just send it to Fulton for good measure. The Norincos are fantastic guns and have advantages that other brands do not in fact.
@@bad74maverick1 - this is apocryphal but I do remember seeing an ad in Shotgun News back in the 90s I guess where a company was essentially saying, "the Chinese M1As are SOFT, buy ours!", blah blah. Oddly enough, I've never heard shooters who use the Norinco M1As complain and have only heard good things about them (aside from the examples you cited).
@@wes11bravo Yeah Springfield armory (I think it was them) got into a lot of trouble when the Norinco's were banned in 94'! They got caught in a huge scam involving the Poly's and "inspecting" them. After the ban SA (or someone, I think SA) offered to service Polytechs. Well the Poly's head space was off by a thousandth of an inch or so, but would lock up on a go no-go gauge correctly and was fine. SA told customers their barrel was out of spec and offered to replace it with theirs. Well at that time SA wasn't making M1A barrels chrome lined and the Poly's were. So they stated they were out of spec and replaced and kept the chrome lined barrels. They used them in custom match guns, and it was a gun magazine I think guns and ammo that did a review and found out where the chrome barrel came from. It was a huge dust up! I know shortly after that time SA started offering chrome lined barrels.
Wild. Good stuff
Must be worth a great deal!
Some of those Chinese m14 auto did end up in civilian hands, believe me .
The Norinco M14's from 88-94 are some of the best rifles on the market. They are in a lot of ways better than the Springfields, purists will argue that, but the fact is, the Norinco's have a forged receiver and op-rod and chrome lined barrels. Springfield Armory doesn't do that. The only forged receivers made by Springfield don't have a trade mark after the name and are an NFA item lol. I have had mine for years and the only thing I did was remove the fake flash hider and put a real surplus one on, and I put a real M14 wood stock on mine.
Yours is the semi. I have on of those also
@@psp1921tsmg Yes, that's correct. The full auto's I like I cannot afford! lol.
Ding Hao!
Police aren’t accountable for their rounds
Well said mate. Got my laugh of the day on that one!
Do a video on links amd sears
That will be difficult. I don’t have any lightning links. I not sure a drop sear video would make it past RUclips censorship.
That thing has no business being full auto
God I hate the M14
I want 10 just to relocate my shoulder