It's pretty amazing the fact that Zatanna, and not Superman, was the first hero not related to Batman that appeared in the DCAU. That shows how much Dini and Timm wanted to introduce her. Not that I blame them 😉
*Fun fact:* Before JLU, Zatanna also made a brief cameo in "The New Batman Adventures" episode "Chemistry", in which she attends with Jason Blood Bruce Wayne's wedding, a clear hint that she knows Batman's secret identity
I mean, he practically revealed it in her episode of BtAS. He used the nickname that only he ever used for her, while in costume. They even acknowledged their past, at the end of the episode, when he was training under her father.
She certainly does know his identity, she refers to him by his name while he’s in costume in an episode of JLU where he asks her to help him break a curse on Wonder Woman.
It changes depending on writer, but more than a few times she has a strict “no real magic on stage” policy. She’s just as good at slight of hand and misdirection as she is at casting spells. Which is to say, one of the best in the world.
It always felt to me like canonically she had always been a real sorceress, whether because she was simply hiding it more convincingly in her BTAS appearance because the writers didn’t want to have to deal with explaining magic in their world yet, or because the writers simply decided retroactively that that was the case for the same reason.
My idea is that her father was a magician maybe sorcerer, and took up being a show magician to earn money. And the Zatanna took up the practice and study all of her fathers journals, eventually finding the real spells.
Is that really a question people wondered about? I thought it was common knowledge that she always knew magic and just wasn't shown in explicit detail.
I mean the first time they showed her in btas she wast using magic the one time it looked like she did it was a trick and she said so Herself She literally got kidnapped and didn’t use any magic Batman had to save her. So yeah I think it’s a legit question..
Why would she k ow magic and not use it to save herself form a non powered villain and wait for Batman to rescue her.. it’s obviously and legit question
As someone who wasn't familiar with DC all that much there was nothing in that episode that made me think she knew magic. Thus when she comes up again later knowing it and it's treated as known fact it does raise the question of "when"
@@ChouRaiyuki At the point when Zatanna appeared again, the DCAU had already showcased an extreme amount of magic characters in storylines. I cannot possibly imagine how it was hard for anyone to understand that she just knows magic.
At the end of her first episode, Zatanna outright vanishes, fooling even *Batman* the way he usually disappears on others. I always took that as an implication that Zatanna might have some real magic after all.
Here's a theory. There have been movies about magicians who appear to be doing real magic. Such as the Now You See Me films, The Illusionist, The Prestige, and Wonka. However, the question comes to mind that if these people have discovered real magic, then why are there so many problems and challenges they face that they can't solve with it? Because it's not real magic, but the power of technology and invention, complex devices and advanced techniques that only work under ideal or well planned circumstances. For all we know Zatanna and some other magic users in the DCAU maybe use advanced or even alien tech to create illusions. With Zatanna's inclusion into the JLA, she would certainly have access to not only Batman's advanced tech, but also those from members that originate off world.
I didn't know people were still confused about this. She outright said in that JLU episode she performs normal "magic" but for the grand finale she uses her real magic. She clearly uses more spells in JLU so I think she did a lot of practicing since BTAS
I’m confused, in that first “trick” shown at the end, where she made a bank disappear, if I remember that episode correctly, Batman immediately called out how the trick was done with mirrors and also informed Zantana that the magic debunker she brought on the show she challenge to figure out how it was done, faked not knowing. Batman goes on to tell her that the debunker not only knew how the trick was done but used it against her to frame her when he stole the money out of the bank. TLDR: That first instance of using reverse magic speak, her trick didn’t use magic at all.
And with that implication, Zatanna may have deliberately made herself be framed so to keep tabs and check out the abilities and also identity of the Batman... magical girls/witches can always do what they want in their whimsical and dangerous lives, I'll say. Sidenote: Strange how B: TAS did less fellow superhero cameos than X-Men: TAS and Spider-Man: TAS combined. Even Superman: TAS onwards upped the ante, thus leading to the Justice League era.
I mean yeah she speaks Backwards in her debut episode but that feels less like a “Ooo look she’s learning to master her full power” and is more like “hey so Zatanna Speaks backwards to cast Magic right? Yeah let’s reference that”
Zatanna and her Dad are also genuinely good at regular old stage magic, like, as good at that as they are at the real stuff. Depending on the canon it's either a 'hide where they'd least expect a sorcerer to be' or a 'she saves the real magic for big finales and prefers to use the tricks and stage acts for the most part'. My issue with Zatanna is honestly that in modern stories she always either overshadows her dad or he's dead. Zatara has been around as long as Superman, dating back to 1938 and predating Batman, while Zatanna only came about in 1964 and only started doing her own things separate from her dad in the late 70s.
If that’s true, that makes the old animated episode kinda funny. Zatanna and Bruce got into real fights in that episode, but Zatanna never used a spell to fix it because she must have figured, “Naaaaaaaaah, we got this.” Haha.
They wanted her to seem like a simple stage magician hiding her real abilities til she needed them & that was a profitable job for those who had a modicum of showmanship.
It was always my head canon that she knew magic but didn't show it early on. I appreciate how the episode alluded to it, even if they weren't planning on making it canon.
The father of Zatana is alive? Why Batman didnt learn magic speells from him? Or from Zatana? John Constatine exist in the DCAU? Probably you guys covered these topics in one of your videos. So Im gonna see them to find the answers.
- Unclear in canon, but he appears to be so in the Gotham Adventures comics. - For one, he doesn't want to depend too much on a crutch like magical enhancements. - I don't think so, and personally, I don't mind, considering this is a universe where Hal Jordan didn't become Green Lantern, Jason Todd never became Robin, Superman never fell in love with Wonder Woman...
@@michaelandreipalon359 What about Hal Jordan appereance in Justice League vs Fatal Five? , He and other Green Lanters that havent appeared were in that room.
@@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 I still think Fatal Five is set in a parallel universe adjacent to the DCAU, alongside Crisis on Two Earths (though even then, the events of that movie may have happened offscreen in a major capacity). Also, I really prefer Hal in this universe staying a bad**s Muggle ace fighter pilot during the conflicts against the Apokoliptians, Imperium forces, and Thanagarians. Being a GL can feel a bit overrated.
- It’s strongly hinted that John Zatara (Zatanna’s dad) is no longer alive, which makes the contemporary DC Universe continuity. - Bruce Wayne’s focus for justice wasn’t on adversaries who used true magic. But because criminals were generally “superstitious and cowardly,”. he decided to learn stage magic techniques that could enable him to understand and combat the criminal mindset, from dramatic entrances and misdirecting traps to escape artistry and concealment of items to surprise and confound. - DCAU creatives probably weren’t allowed to use John Constantine or any of the Vertigo Comics properties.
She is actually born with magic her father's Born with magic and her mother was she actually knows I hate to say this I know the dark arts and the forbidden arts and tarot cards she's basically a witch SO her father and so Mother say one of the comic
Zatana and Zatar are a subset of humanity called homo-magi as are ALL magic users in DC.. This is why Batman doesn't use magic. He would have the skill.nut lacks.the gene.
Dan's great! We've got a few interviews with him on our channel, and he's been on out podcast "Jump on the Bat-Wagon" a couple times, too, for "Zatanna" and "Riddler's Reform"!
Actually at first she only does sleight of hands to hide her real magic, which she didn't like using. Then when she joins the justice league she comes out about her magic and is more confident, enough to put it on her shows She even puts up shows on a special bar for magical creatures
Wrong again. Zatanna could always do big magic, intact her father, Zatara trained batman and Zatanna from their young age in all foms of magic. She only does small magic on stage for show.
From what little I know about her, it appears Zatanna practices both stage magic and real magic, and just spices up her stage magic with the real thing, but only for flair, using illusions and slight of hand for everything else, just as in her debut episode. Like adding a dash of salt to take a dish from great to amazing. 🥣
Uhhhh yeah. No shit. Zatanna is a magician (as in a real one), that's always been her superpower. And she learned how to do magic from her father Zatarra. That's her whole entire backstory in the comics. Did you seriously not know this? Isn't this channel owned by DC Comics??
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It's pretty amazing the fact that Zatanna, and not Superman, was the first hero not related to Batman that appeared in the DCAU. That shows how much Dini and Timm wanted to introduce her. Not that I blame them 😉
Yeah
She also has a past that's quite famous with Batman so it makes sense
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@@DastardlyDavid69 true plus shes one of the hottest women in dc
@@mahiyatsafiyullah7103 yes
*Fun fact:* Before JLU, Zatanna also made a brief cameo in "The New Batman Adventures" episode "Chemistry", in which she attends with Jason Blood Bruce Wayne's wedding, a clear hint that she knows Batman's secret identity
Yeah but we knew this cuz theres a episode about them in btas
I mean, he practically revealed it in her episode of BtAS. He used the nickname that only he ever used for her, while in costume. They even acknowledged their past, at the end of the episode, when he was training under her father.
She certainly does know his identity, she refers to him by his name while he’s in costume in an episode of JLU where he asks her to help him break a curse on Wonder Woman.
What's funnier to me is that she would hang out with Jason Blood at that point in time. Not that it's odd or anything. Just neat to notice.
She used her magic to jump into my incognito tabs
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She in my normal tabs I ain’t afraid to admit I’ve got it for Zatanna
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Zatanna grew up learning magic from zatara According to the comics. She uses the Persona of a stage magician in order to hide in plain sight
Yah, that's what I always remembered was that she was always magical I mean how better to hide a tree than in a forest?
I always thought the idea of her actually being magic in BTAS, and just hiding it better was cool.
It changes depending on writer, but more than a few times she has a strict “no real magic on stage” policy. She’s just as good at slight of hand and misdirection as she is at casting spells. Which is to say, one of the best in the world.
Zatanna is the daughter of Zatarra. He was the original backward speacking magician superhero.
Who also appeared in action comics #1 in 1938 alongside superman
@cristalmewtwo4160 How come I don't remember seeing him?
It always felt to me like canonically she had always been a real sorceress, whether because she was simply hiding it more convincingly in her BTAS appearance because the writers didn’t want to have to deal with explaining magic in their world yet, or because the writers simply decided retroactively that that was the case for the same reason.
Zatanna not only became a true magician, but also even more gorgeous over time. Amazing character development, ladies and gentlemen 😎👌
"She had the magic inside her all along"
Constantine, Fate, Timothy from BoM: "It should have been ME!"
The way to pull off a trick is to just do it in somebody face so nobody notices.
Imagine contacting the original episode director, just for him to essentially answer with a, bruh did you even watch the episode. Lol
Haha we didn't contact him for this. We had him on our podcast and he randomly dropped that.
If the shows line up with any bit of comics, Zatarra taught her real magic.
My idea is that her father was a magician maybe sorcerer, and took up being a show magician to earn money. And the Zatanna took up the practice and study all of her fathers journals, eventually finding the real spells.
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She had the magic with her all along put that on a t shirt lol
Is that really a question people wondered about? I thought it was common knowledge that she always knew magic and just wasn't shown in explicit detail.
You wouldn't believe how often we get asked
I mean the first time they showed her in btas she wast using magic the one time it looked like she did it was a trick and she said so Herself She literally got kidnapped and didn’t use any magic Batman had to save her. So yeah I think it’s a legit question..
Why would she k ow magic and not use it to save herself form a non powered villain and wait for Batman to rescue her.. it’s obviously and legit question
As someone who wasn't familiar with DC all that much there was nothing in that episode that made me think she knew magic. Thus when she comes up again later knowing it and it's treated as known fact it does raise the question of "when"
@@ChouRaiyuki At the point when Zatanna appeared again, the DCAU had already showcased an extreme amount of magic characters in storylines. I cannot possibly imagine how it was hard for anyone to understand that she just knows magic.
At the end of her first episode, Zatanna outright vanishes, fooling even *Batman* the way he usually disappears on others. I always took that as an implication that Zatanna might have some real magic after all.
Damn I did notice that
Here's a theory. There have been movies about magicians who appear to be doing real magic. Such as the Now You See Me films, The Illusionist, The Prestige, and Wonka. However, the question comes to mind that if these people have discovered real magic, then why are there so many problems and challenges they face that they can't solve with it? Because it's not real magic, but the power of technology and invention, complex devices and advanced techniques that only work under ideal or well planned circumstances. For all we know Zatanna and some other magic users in the DCAU maybe use advanced or even alien tech to create illusions. With Zatanna's inclusion into the JLA, she would certainly have access to not only Batman's advanced tech, but also those from members that originate off world.
She learned it from Chuck Norris
I didn't know people were still confused about this. She outright said in that JLU episode she performs normal "magic" but for the grand finale she uses her real magic. She clearly uses more spells in JLU so I think she did a lot of practicing since BTAS
Zatannas dad looks like J. Jonah Jameson
Fumny the fact that in dcshg she just wake up one day with so much magic that she can’t control XD
I’m confused, in that first “trick” shown at the end, where she made a bank disappear, if I remember that episode correctly, Batman immediately called out how the trick was done with mirrors and also informed Zantana that the magic debunker she brought on the show she challenge to figure out how it was done, faked not knowing.
Batman goes on to tell her that the debunker not only knew how the trick was done but used it against her to frame her when he stole the money out of the bank.
TLDR: That first instance of using reverse magic speak, her trick didn’t use magic at all.
Lol. You seriously quoted land of Oz. Awesome 👌
She just didn't learn Magic, because Magic literally runs throuhg her veins.
Damn its almost like she practiced
I always thought it was that zatanna avoided using magic in her magic shows or at least only used it once per show
And with that implication, Zatanna may have deliberately made herself be framed so to keep tabs and check out the abilities and also identity of the Batman... magical girls/witches can always do what they want in their whimsical and dangerous lives, I'll say.
Sidenote: Strange how B: TAS did less fellow superhero cameos than X-Men: TAS and Spider-Man: TAS combined. Even Superman: TAS onwards upped the ante, thus leading to the Justice League era.
Or maybe she always could but never did it in public
I mean yeah she speaks Backwards in her debut episode but that feels less like a “Ooo look she’s learning to master her full power” and is more like “hey so Zatanna Speaks backwards to cast Magic right? Yeah let’s reference that”
A magician never reveals their secrets. Unless you wrote an episode starring the magician, then it's fair game.
Zatanna and her Dad are also genuinely good at regular old stage magic, like, as good at that as they are at the real stuff. Depending on the canon it's either a 'hide where they'd least expect a sorcerer to be' or a 'she saves the real magic for big finales and prefers to use the tricks and stage acts for the most part'.
My issue with Zatanna is honestly that in modern stories she always either overshadows her dad or he's dead. Zatara has been around as long as Superman, dating back to 1938 and predating Batman, while Zatanna only came about in 1964 and only started doing her own things separate from her dad in the late 70s.
If that’s true, that makes the old animated episode kinda funny. Zatanna and Bruce got into real fights in that episode, but Zatanna never used a spell to fix it because she must have figured, “Naaaaaaaaah, we got this.” Haha.
Where did you get the idea that she wasn't a real magician? We knew she was a magician from the start...
In the comics it was the other was around she always knew magic and learned slight of hand to disguise it
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A lot can be explained by reading the webtoon which I highly recommend it was an amazing 50 chapter webtoon that I wish would get a sequel
Which webtoon is that?
Log that one under very badass
They wanted her to seem like a simple stage magician hiding her real abilities til she needed them & that was a profitable job for those who had a modicum of showmanship.
In the Lego movies specifically The Flash she's trained by Dr Fate
See i always noticed that. So i didn't know this was a debate.
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I was going to comment that while the video was still going, but then it said it towards the end there
I know how. It was written that way.
I thank Batman the Animated Series for bringing us the joy of Zatanna! That wonderful gal never ceases to amaze fans and admirers!❤
Some supers hide behind a mask, some hide in plain sight.
Can nautically zatara is a human subspecies it basically makes her a wizard like in Harry Potter and has always had magic
It was always my head canon that she knew magic but didn't show it early on. I appreciate how the episode alluded to it, even if they weren't planning on making it canon.
I thought Zatanna was only a stage magician to release dangerous buildup of real magic
Is that canonical? I've never heard that but I really like that.
I loved Batman and Zatanna's chemistry. I wish we got more DCAU Zatanna. Not a fan of newer iterations
If you put the captions on the episodes of Young Justice with Zatana all of their spells are words backwards.
That's because...they are!
Yeah isn't that weird. I always thought, Zatanna was downplaying Her abilities on Stage.
The father of Zatana is alive?
Why Batman didnt learn magic speells from him? Or from Zatana?
John Constatine exist in the DCAU?
Probably you guys covered these topics in one of your videos. So Im gonna see them to find the answers.
- Unclear in canon, but he appears to be so in the Gotham Adventures comics.
- For one, he doesn't want to depend too much on a crutch like magical enhancements.
- I don't think so, and personally, I don't mind, considering this is a universe where Hal Jordan didn't become Green Lantern, Jason Todd never became Robin, Superman never fell in love with Wonder Woman...
@alicedollvtThought I read the Clock King-esque Homura Akemi there.
@@michaelandreipalon359 What about Hal Jordan appereance in Justice League vs Fatal Five?
, He and other Green Lanters that havent appeared were in that room.
@@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667 I still think Fatal Five is set in a parallel universe adjacent to the DCAU, alongside Crisis on Two Earths (though even then, the events of that movie may have happened offscreen in a major capacity).
Also, I really prefer Hal in this universe staying a bad**s Muggle ace fighter pilot during the conflicts against the Apokoliptians, Imperium forces, and Thanagarians. Being a GL can feel a bit overrated.
- It’s strongly hinted that John Zatara (Zatanna’s dad) is no longer alive, which makes the contemporary DC Universe continuity.
- Bruce Wayne’s focus for justice wasn’t on adversaries who used true magic. But because criminals were generally “superstitious and cowardly,”. he decided to learn stage magic techniques that could enable him to understand and combat the criminal mindset, from dramatic entrances and misdirecting traps to escape artistry and concealment of items to surprise and confound.
- DCAU creatives probably weren’t allowed to use John Constantine or any of the Vertigo Comics properties.
She was obviously faking her role as a stage magician to hide the fact she was an actual magician.
Her father would be proud of her but then again so would her brother.
I THOUGHT that was a real spell! Batman and Superman's mutual weakness: Zatanna. Superman vulnerable to magic, Batman crippled by logic.
Her father new magic and taught her
She is actually born with magic her father's Born with magic and her mother was she actually knows I hate to say this I know the dark arts and the forbidden arts and tarot cards she's basically a witch SO her father and so Mother say one of the comic
Not using magic, is a superheros biggest mistake.
Does anyone else realize she’s talking Arabic?
Does nobody remember Defenders of the Earth? She was Mandrake the magician daughter
Mandrake is a King Features character, and unrelated to Zatanna or DC. Zahara first appeared in Action Comic #1, but Superman was the main character.
She turned a glove into a bird how much more for realzies do you need
She fell into a vat of plot
Zatana and Zatar are a subset of humanity called homo-magi as are ALL magic users in DC..
This is why Batman doesn't use magic. He would have the skill.nut lacks.the gene.
She could've used it more often in that episode but noooooo, the Animated Series had to do her so dirty. YOU LOUSY, SICK CHEAPSKATES!
I'm surprised he remembers that, the director I mean
Dan's great! We've got a few interviews with him on our channel, and he's been on out podcast "Jump on the Bat-Wagon" a couple times, too, for "Zatanna" and "Riddler's Reform"!
Gotta say, I'd rather get shrunk than get arrested by the fascists. Glad to see that guys got a better chance at things in this universe.
I always thought she was magic. Maybe it's just me. 🎉
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"For years "? Is this right? I never thought about it..... or heard about it being a concern...... but ok
You'd be surprised how many times we get asked this
@@dcauwatchtower I already am
Oh so the reason she has magic is because she always had magic. Oooooooohhhhh. That’s not an explanation though.
Why does it need one
It's in her genes. She could always do magic
A wizard did it
Actually at first she only does sleight of hands to hide her real magic, which she didn't like using.
Then when she joins the justice league she comes out about her magic and is more confident, enough to put it on her shows
She even puts up shows on a special bar for magical creatures
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Duh, she had real magic, it just wasn't shown. How hard was that to figure out?
Ask the dozens of people who've asked us for years 🤷♀️
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Yes and her dad was Nabu Dr Fate
In "Young Justice," he did become Dr. Fate, yep. Not in the DCAU though (as far as we know).
RUclipsrs will be youtubers and i hate them!!! We know we watched the episode
Oh man! Ya got me!
Wait I thought doctor fate was her father
John Zatara becomes Dr. Fate in the "Young Justice" continuity, but that isn't the same as the DCAU.
"Fans" ... sure you are you casuals
I'm just going off hundreds of comments on our videos over the years 🤙
Her father taught it to her before he took up the mantle as Doctor Fate
That's "Young Justice," which is a different continuity
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Esuaceb reh rehtaf si a laer naicigam os lla ehs sah ot od si yas sdrow sdrawkcab -D.A.
Wrong again. Zatanna could always do big magic, intact her father, Zatara trained batman and Zatanna from their young age in all foms of magic. She only does small magic on stage for show.
The fuck?
Smh
From what little I know about her, it appears Zatanna practices both stage magic and real magic, and just spices up her stage magic with the real thing, but only for flair, using illusions and slight of hand for everything else, just as in her debut episode. Like adding a dash of salt to take a dish from great to amazing. 🥣
Z is cursed with unlimited magical power by a demon as a temptation to kill a man sealing her soul to hell. PS John Constantine.
Uhhhh yeah. No shit. Zatanna is a magician (as in a real one), that's always been her superpower. And she learned how to do magic from her father Zatarra. That's her whole entire backstory in the comics.
Did you seriously not know this? Isn't this channel owned by DC Comics??
It is not owned by DC whatsoever 😅 And we made this based on the sheer volume of times this gets asked in our comments. Thanks!
She probably was just sandbagging for the audience