I was told by my dealer that the weight specification in the Classic 500's manual is way off, which I believe. If it only had a max. payload of 95kg, mine would be on it's last legs 🤣 Great video as always 🙂
That weight specification responds to the maximum load that you can carrt without losing performance, off course you can carry more than that but at performance expense
Even with identical performances, the deep and pulsing engine sound of the 500 as well the ease of steep climbing at almost idle regime without effort, and the exquisit ritual charm of having a kickstarter to use even after several rainy weeks makes the difference. These are the main reasons why I'l will keep my 2018 Classic . After these years of ownership I am far from being bored. Why swap it?
I own a classic 500 since 2011. Even today, It’s as amazing as it was on the first ride. It’s just Excellent !! Unfortunately, Royal Enfield has discontinued the 500cc engine in India. Still ! There is lot of respect for the bike
I own the 2011 model also. I just finished my toughest Himalayan solo ride (the new Zanskar route). I cracked the frame but got it welded while coming back and it's ready for another ride.
I bought my Classic 500 new in 2018 & I've never regretted it. It's a lovely, relaxed bike to ride in the lanes & by-roads near home (Yorkshire Dales). As I post this, I'm returning from an extended trip through the Cotswolds. I did a bit of M-way running but was glad to get off it asap. The vibrations aren't intrusive now (5800 miles) but if you do have a smidge of mechanical sympathy, you'll keep the bike in its comfort zone of no more than 60mph. Travelling @ 50 on A-roads is easy & relaxed. Personally, I wouldn't swap the 500 as it does everything I need.
Waiting for my new 350 nine weeks now supposed to be six weeks. so getting a bit fed up . I have the Desert storm 500 but never really got on with the colour . Im getting the chrome red which to me is the best colour . Thanks for the review Stuart . it as helped with the awful doubt i have in thinking I have made a mistake and may be getting an under powered bike and may have regrets. All the best with your new bike. I have a 1980 350 R/E as well that Im going to sell . Just like you I love Royal Enfield's My first was the 1948 G2
I have an old Bullet 350 STD (2014 model) And I carry about 30kg of camping equipment with my 60kg pillion and I'm 85kg, total of 175kg. We travel and camp in rural areas, even at high altitude, we can cruise around 80kph on highway with all that weight and she hauls like a champ. Some areas we've been are gnarly, like pottery level mud gnarly and she does just fine. Never fails me as long as proper maintenance is applied. I will never let go of that bike even though I am aiming for an upgrade to the Himalayan. And what you said about the new 350 is true, that engine is just superb. 👌
I’m so happy that the Classic got an update. I got my 500 in Nov 2019, and was shocked the models would be shut down in 2020, but I’m glad it came back, and better than ever since it performs the same, and has longer maintenance intervals and modern conveniences.
Thanks for this honest breakdown. For me, it is a choice of the heart to stick with my Classic 500 Pegasus edition and spend a little more time on maintenance (which to be honest, is for me part of riding a motorcycle - getting greasy once in a while) Partly because it is not too far off from my first ever bike - a 1972 Enfield India Bullet 350 - which later I passed on to my father. And already the difference between these 2 bikes in reliability (it must be said that 1972 wasn't a particular good RE year - I had a LOT of grease time with that one! 😆) but keeping to that typical driving experience - with MUCH improved gearbox 😅. Truth be said - if it were not for the Pegasus model already in my garage - If I would have to make the choice today, I would not rule out the new classic 350, but my good ole "Badger" has grown to my heart in such a way - I am unlikely to part with it. 🙂
Questions answered 👍for every day riding the new 350. For occasional sunny days the 500. I love the added character of my 500. Never ridden a bike quite like it. Definitely a keeper 👍
I too was baffled by the weight figures in the owners manual of my Bullet Trials 500. The values made no sense whatsoever. The bike itself weighed just under 200kg. And with a declared maximum payload of just 95kg, I was in theory, too fat to actually ride the bike!! ( I do of course have a very heavy jacket, helmet, boots and gloves! Nothing to do with being huge!)
I do appreciate the in depth knowledge of Stuart and in the not so distant future intend to buy a Classic 350, but here is a question for You Stuart is it possible to get the Trials modifications gear sprockets, Trials frame, bars, tank etc. As I would like to enter for the Manx Two Day Trial in September which fits in neatly with the Manx Grand Prix in September. THANK YOU - *ALLANX
Thanks! I've been sort of waiting for someone to come along and really compare the old UCE Bullet with the new J-Engine 350 Meteor or Classic head-to-head. Maths aside, once that 350's properly broken in, I hope you'll reprise this comparison with some real world appraisal of their respective "reasonable" top speeds, such as one might briefly use for passing, their "happiest" cruising speeds, and maybe take a stab at assessing that pleasant yet hard to define "Thumping Oompf Factor" one has rather come to expect with Enfield singles. As you know, I'm still swanning around on one of their original model preunit Iron Cylinder Bullet 500s. Its horsepower, torque and other numbers on their face may seem "unimpressive", even anemic, but they belie the fact that its "ultra-primitivo" ride experience is lovely and deliberate all the same, rather like firing an old black powder pistol compared to just promiscuously emptying a Glock. I do hope you'll revisit these two when both are ready.
J-platform engine & chasis in 500cc with a kickstart is my dream build. Sadly currently Enfield has little incentive to make 500cc classic since that price range is now occupied by 650 twins and upcoming 450cc himalyan platform.
Uncle Stu, My wife and I just rented a Meteor 350 and we both were amazed how well it managed riding two up. ( We both are 80 kg). She was pleasantly surprised how comfortable the pillion seat was. I will own a classic 350 by the end of this year. The Halcyon colors and Chrome versions are supposed to reach the USA later this year. Also rented an interceptor 650 the following day and loved the smooth power delivery but the ergonomics of the interceptor did not work for me, so I think a Super Meteor 650 will be added to the corral once they launch. I think that will be perfect for two up riding and the Classic 350 will become my solo bike. I found the Meteor very nimble whereas the Interceptor felt much heavier on the steering. Hopefully the Super Meteor will be as nimble as it’s smaller displacement sibling.
I was tempted by an old classic, RE, BSA or Triumph etc. My friend acquired a BSA Starfire and it looks lovely. It was quite up together but his bills for parts, chrome work and modifications are shocking, let alone the time commitment fettling. I haven’t that sort of cash/spare time so went for the RE Classic for the style, reliability, build quality and use-ability - I’ve done more miles in 3 months than a certain Starfire has done in 2 1/2 years! Everyone to their own and go with your heart….you’ll still have more satisfaction and pleasure than sitting in a tin box.
I have several psa2 50 singles and all variations I have found them to be extremely reliable being very simple there's not a whole lot to go wrong. I just got a beautiful 67 C15 Starfire with 6000 original miles on it for $500 with an alloy tank on it. Unmolested matching numbers the whole nine yards. My 1959 C15 Starfire with a B-25 motivated cruises to up 60 miles an hour all day in Florida no trouble at all. If you blew up your 250es motor trying to keep up with friends who have 500 and 650 that is not the bikes fault that is your fault.
I have a classic 500 but I had to testride the 350. I had expectations from hearing a lot about how close it should be to the old 500. I loved the seat (so comfy), liked the absent of the strong vibrations, but: there is almost no power down low. I dont need to go fast but wihtout the low rpm torque its not the same. With the 350 you have to rev way higher to get going, especially on hilly, winding streets, and with that more gear changes. The 350 is a neat bike, but I absolutely keep my 500.
@@stuartfillingham Maybe is shoud have said mountainous instead of hilly; mountainous like the swiss alps. In this terrrain here, there is defenetly a difference in performance with lower revs ;-)
@@Muntschitschi could it be the altitude rather than the terrain itself? I don't know how the difference in oxygen concentration could affect performance in that regard, but it could be
Though I own the Meteor 350, it shares the same engine with the new Classic 350. I think that the Meteor 350 has enough torque down low. Then again, I'm not in the mountains, and the mountains we have aren't like the Alps or our Rockies.
@@arunkumarkalyanam7219 BSA Goldstar will be a 650cc single..maybe then RE will change its mind. I am not convinced 350cc will be enough for US and European market.
@@pr7049 may be... I haven't visit US and Europe.. so i cant coment :). however its totally depend on pricing...Adding to that I just bought classic chrome bronze edition 350 Cc. you can cruze 100 kmph.. its my own coment.
@@pr7049 you can go similar speed of 120 kmph in RE but it won't give you fun to ride also not safe to ride more tna 100kmph. I have car to ride fast in highway. i use RE only in city . people won't fail to look over you while you ride classic chrome...
Used to own a BSA Victor 500 single cylinder and a 1979 Triumph Bonneville twin. Both vibrated too much at highway speed, breaking turn signal filaments and shaking nuts and bolts loose. Currently own two Moto Guzzis and am very satisfied, although I am teased by the Royal Enfields--beautiful bikes. --Mike
RE have been reluctant to upgrade. 14 years back when I went to buy my thunderbird they were still selling classics with cast Iron engine and the salesperson took pride In recommending it if we want the real "bullet feel". The twinspark UCE was still newly launched and I opted for it as I felt It would be more reliable. that engine on the classic did wonders for RE sales. Now the new J platform is another step towards efficient and easy to maintain machines. The 500 will be replaced by the classic 650 twin, another bike to lookout for!! nice video as always.
Great, honest opinion (although I nearly bought a 500 Chrome a couple of years ago, but the vibration was unbearable so bought an Interceptor instead). One issue that is important when considering buying a Classic 350 is that the first service has to be conducted after 300 miles. I got to 200 miles on the clock and tried to book the first service only to be told that the first available slot is in 1 months' time, effectively restricting my rideability. I'm retired and don't use the bike to commute so I can wait, however if anyone buys the Classic 350 as their sole transport this could be a serious restriction so book your first service as soon as possible after buying the bike because as soon as you start riding it, you'll be addicted and the 300 miles will come around very quickly. One final issue is that my 1st choice dealer is 45 miles away, located in a tiny village with no local amenities and they require the bike to be dropped off the day before to allow it to cool off to adjust the tappets, so I have to make two 90 mile round trips, so make sure your RE dealer is close by.
Hi Paul I thought that I had wrote this for a moment. I’m propping mine off on Sunday for her first service after having to wait 6 weeks I will also be picking her up on Monday so yes two trips to Bolton Motorcycle’s so that’s two OAPs thinking 🤔 it’s never been like this before 😃👍
About a year ago I won at auction an ‘09 500 Bullet with 1519 miles. Sat in a private airplane hanger for who knows? Before taking possession I had opportunity to ride a new 350 at a Royal Enfield ride day. 4 650’s & 2 350’s were available for demo rides. We took a leisurely ride through the country side around a lake for about 45 minutes. Lots of stop & go. Me & the other 350 had issue keeping up with the pack of 650’s. My comeback was lots of vibration through the handlebars, peaked RPM keeping up with 55-60 MPH. But comfortable riding. My thoughts were I would “flip” the 500 when I got it because I really got it cheap, not many bidders. At least double my money selling it. Picked up the 500 with trailer. Unknown when it last ran. Flat battery. Had fuel in it, put in a spare battery I had. Fired up smoothly! Drained old gas and oil, new filters in place. 1st ride. What a pleasant experience! Nothing like the 350. The 500 had plenty of power. Not nearly the vibration of the 350. And just smooth laid back backroads ride. I’ve since added saddlebags, needed. A year on and get tons of comments, compliments. I swear its the only RE in my locality. No plans to sell!
I’m about to do my test and was dead set on the 350 after previously wanting a 500. After seeing them both in the flesh and hearing them.. it’s got to be a late 500… I weigh 15 stone so the extra torque will help. I also love the rear end of the 500.
Bike riding for me was like a picnic.Someone brought a spanner,another a pack of fuses,another a tin of bulbs with the pillions having cash! How things have changed our Stuart!
I bought what was supposedly the last Classic 500 RE Redditch Green Model that entered the country, did not regret it from day one and even though the 350 is a very worthwhile bike I will not be replacing the 500 for it and most probably for anything else. As you have said it has something that resonates with riders who want it for what it is. I am 68 and have been riding bikes consistently since I was 16 from a Honda C50 to a Ducati Multistrada and just about everything in between, the classic 500 is most probably the bike I have been most content with. I would not be surprised if time shows that not many will swap their 500 for a 350 and most of the sales of the 350 will be new riders to the RE stable. Which is a good thing.
Great video Stuart however i'm not sure about the kerb weight of the 500 at 270kg. Seems an awful lot. Sources on various sites including one RE pdf states kerb weight incl 90% fuel between 190-195kg ??
Yeah I think it’s fair to say the manual is incorrect. There is no way the 500 is 270kgs. My 500 ‘feels’ significantly lighter than my Interceptor (or at least there is less weight to manhandle around the garage/driveway). Great video as always
If you're primarily choosing one of these as your primary bike and commuter, the all-new more refined 350 will just be better in that application. However I might be a bit biased as I recently bought one without even test ridding it and it's an absolute pearl.
Hey Stuart. I bought a ‘96 Honda Dominator last year just after the 3rd lockdown here in France. It began as just a project cooked up with a mate after a bottle or two of rosé. We had the great idea to buy old 80s/90’s single cylinder thumpers and do them up together. I always loved the look of the Dominator when I was younger so hunted down a fairly decent example and started work. It’s only now, 12 months and a few quid later, that she’s running really well and looking more like she did when she rolled off the line. I never meant her as a keeper but it’s crazy how these old bikes get under your skin! I find myself taking the Domi now more often than my Africa Twin, which used to be my daily bike of choice! Not sure if I could contemplate selling her now but if I did it would be for something with a Royal Enfield badge on!
Having more real vintage/classic made my choice easy:the classic 500 is the one for me the only problem is that I don't ride my old bikes anymore (no oilcheck, will it start ,will stop somewhere inconvinient, lack of good brakes ) my classic 500 gives all the pleasure off "old" bike with modern performance and I like the rough side more then the silky 350
Wonderful video essay. Outside of RE specific information, you relay a lot of universal biking (and life) wisdom - I wish all reviewers would listen. Thanks, Stuart!
I had the opportunity to ride the Classic 350 for the first time yesterday in the afternoon and I must admit I'm pretty impressed with this bike. Everything works flawlessly - the gearbox is excellent, the clutch fairly light, the suspension does its job and the looks are simply overwhelming. The ride is pure joy. The only thing left to consider is the color option, but I'll buy one without a question! The only criticism I have is that from my impression the overall gearing ratio seems to be a bit too high causing me constantly to be one gear lower than I thought I was. I've found I needed at least 60 kph / 36 mph for 4th gear. As a result of it, I was cruising around town in 2nd-3rd gear most of the time (a bit low for my liking). In my opinion, a couple more teeth on the rear sprocket would do the Classic 350 a favor and it's an easy fix.
Fully agree. I also had the chance to ride the new 350 last week. For me the 350 is the better choice compare to the 500. More stable, smooth engine, very few mechanical noise, good handling.
Stuart, a Philadelphia dealer HAD a 2018 Classic 500 with 10K-20K miles on it, and it was selling for about $2K more than it sold for new. Even so, that sucker was GONE in a week or so! It didn't last long...
I seldom post comments, however I feel to offer another on the same thread! Stuart Fillingham's posts and videos are enjoyed by thousands across the world now and he has almost certainly lead to more sales than scores of dealers put together. Whilst it is understood that a 'head above the parapet' is going to attract some fire, some comments are a bit strong and accusative - whether facts are right or otherwise. Lighten up! Stuart is an enthusiast who does this for little reward (RUclips isn't that lucrative) and gives up a lot of his time I'm sure. It would be a great shame if this channel calls it a day owing to too many unjustifiable negative comments.
I'll be keeping my Bullet 500 trials. It's got an old world, big single character that nothing else matches. It's undergeared for sure, but a Hitchcocks 19t front sprocket cures that and gives the bike longer legs for cruising. Love it to bits (hopefully not literally u understand).
Thanks so much for the comparson Stuart. I am hopeful I can buy a 350 soon and start my long overdue tours of Northern Thailand. IMO there is so much more to see than the fleshpots too many tourists think is the key to the "Land of Smiles" that I call home.
I have got the classic 500 squadron blue limited edition bike no.71 out of 200 all over got a RRP exhaust to it so that I get the thump of Enfield and everytime I accelerate I can feel the torque kicking in. Always a classic 500 fan
Just the video I was looking for. Here in the US there are both old 500s (with 125 miles) and the new 350s for sale at about the same price. The weight difference is enough for me, I popped one of the 350s up on the center stand with ease and I need to ride down a dirt road for a couple miles which makes the lighter bike more appealing.
Thanks Stu, another great video but just a couple of thoughts. Personally I'm not expecting to see a classic 500 anytime soon. The 500's are from a time before the new twins were introduced and I'm not sure if they'd be a big enough market for them now between the classic 350 and the interceptor. And personality I'll be sticking to my AVL 500 pre unit bullet, primary transmission oil dribble and all, even though it makes your unit 500 look sophisticated just because I love it to pieces. Have a safe journey to Brighton mate.
I understand the sentiment. Having a EFI Classic 500 I still compare it to my first bike - a 1972 Bullet 350 "Royal Oilfield" 🙂. Despite the EFI being better in terms of brakes and reliability, but keeping that grin factor - I have been tempted to get a pre unit on the side. Just the whole starting process on a cold morning made me feel like a machinist - a whole ritual to be followed. It was the bike that taught me everything about motorcycle engineering and ripping engines apart. The way that the EFI engine kicks over without an issue - or when just being lazy and push that start button are the wise choice for me as some days old injuries can act up and I would not be sure if I could handle the old model punishing me with a nasty kick back for not having performed the starting ritual to the letter😁 But at the same time, if I do come across one of them, I often ask the owner if I could have a go at starting it. Its just an experience you don't get anymore. Its an odd experience that can make you both lament its endurance, but lets you reminiscent fondly at the same time.
Hi Stuart, I rode the bikes back to back and found the 500 felt more powerful and had more grunt. Different ride altogether prefer the old 500 much more character.
One man's character is another's pain in the ass. While there's room in the market for wrenchers in the US, they younger market here doesn't really want to tinker with a machine. Hell, I don't want to anymore. While the demand for the 500 has flown off the map in the States, those crying for them were already familiar with the brand-- and its peccadillos. What I'm wondering is if RE is willing to "recreate" the Classic 500 with modern updates, I don't know if it would be received with the same kind of passion the original Bullet inspired. I also wonder if RE has completely abandoned 500cc motors, focusing primarily on building their name on the 650's and 350's, and reserving the 411 solely for the Himalayan. Whatever they do, it'll certainly be interesting to see what they come up with.
Great content and such a calming and pleasent talk with that B roll of the bike chucking on the open roads. Totally agree with your opinion. I own 2015 bullet 500 and the new classic did have me divided over keeping the old or exchanging the old for the new. But considering the value of the old and the price of the new and the raw thump & torque of the old 500, I chose to keep the old and maintain it. Until i ride it under 100kmph, it is all the bike I will ever need. However I just love what RE has done with the new classic, so beautiful, pure art it is.
Well Stuart, I live very near Brighton and don't know of any events relating to motorcycles going on this Thursday? So what am I missing? Your 100% right power is relevant to weight. I'm not sure if there are any tuning parts available for the 350 but it wouldn't take much to make them equal. Unless of course being euro 5 makes it impossible.
I hadn't even watched it and I immediately gave it a thumbs up. I've been planning to downgrade from my Bullet 500 and this video certainly gave me several insights to draw some conclusions. Thanks a lot, Stuart :D
I was holding out for the rumoured Classic 650 because I was worried about the 350 not having enough power ( I’m about 200lbs) for the freeways and hills of Southern California. Pre-owned 500s are nowhere to be found here. Any thoughts on the 650? Love your channel, btw. Subbed.
Thanks for that feedback. I did ride the 350 I felt was light at speeds of 60 or above and stability was an issue in windy conditions. Compare to the 500 it just carried you through the wind as long as you hold on to it😁.
Hi there from Luxembourg! Nice review and comparison. I own a 500 Classic Redditch Edition and love the thing, flaws and all. According to my papers the bike has a weight of 195kg wet and a maximum tolerated weight of 365kg.
I got a classic 500 recently. For me the 350 having an lcd screen and not having a Kickstarter prevents it from having a classic vibe as much as the 500 does
Just had a look on the RE site at the British manual for the Classic 500. The manual does indeed state a weight in running order of 270kg and max. pay load of 95kg. Seems to be a mistake on their part.
One of main reasons I like the 500 is the fact that it's ALL STEEL and not with plastic side covers, the hand painted pin stripes,and the kick starter's there if you need it.I had a 500 BSA twin and a 750 BSA Rocket 3 which I loved. The 500 Royal Enfield seems a little more rough around the edges and less bells and whistles (refined) than the RE 350,and I like that. I wish I had bought one new. Used are going at a premium if you can find one and new ones are almost non existent here in the US. Thanks for all of your great, informative videos with fantastic views of the countryside! I think I'm going to wait and see if they come out with a classic 500. By the way what are the gas mileage stats on the 500 and the 350?
Going back to the heydays of British iron, most manufacturers offered 500 and 350 options and it was often difficult to tell between the two performance wise.
Lets be honest, few people gave a toss about the ACTUAL weight of a bike before buying - particularly with this type of motorcycle. The looks, feel, sound and a good few other reasons may take priority. I sat on a new 350 & found it far more comfortable so I chopped in my '21 Classic 500 for one. There's a waiting list for my colour choice and I've never even ridden one, but I like the look and feel of it! I had no idea how many kilo's it was.. Millions spent on R&D would have checked any imbalance here I should think. Thanks Stuart - I reckon you need to clear the Triumph's out of that garage..!
Thanks for the comparison‼ Your out come was close to what I thought would happen. So go to know. Now if I could just afford to get one and keep my Triumph 😂👏
Hi Stuart Thank you so much for the last two revenues and in particular this one as I have a Bullet 500. I love your honest and balanced thoughts and final conclusion... I have just once choice...which is when I can afford an new Classic 350, which may be a long time due to the current financial situation, I also keep my beloved 500... Many thanks Stuart 😊🔆
Enjoyed your comments. As good as the 350 is, I'm hoping RE will bring back an improved 500 that has the balance shafts or whatever magic that made the 350 so smooth. Perhaps better yet, develop a 650 single to compete with the anticipated BSA single supposedly coming to market. The only thing visually that I don't like with the BSA is the radiator hanging on front.
'Mathematics don't lie' ? As a high school student from 40-*mumble* years ago, I watched my maths teacher 'notionally prove' that 1+1=3 ... And wasn't it Mark Twain that said "There are 3 types of lies: usual lies, damnable lies, and worst; statistics"? ;-)
One concern I have is the seat height. The 350 appears to be slightly higher than the classic 500 in your videos. Is it something you think some may have an issue with if swapping from the old classic 500 to the new 350? Incidentally, the owners manual for my 2021 classic 500 Tribute Black states the kerb weight (90% fuel & oil) as being 196kg. So it looks like it’s been amended.
Re your comment about bad press reports on Enfield. About 30yrs ago a bike journalist whom I greatly respected, parted company with a mainstream publisher after they insisted that all submissions were submitted in "clear juvenile journalise" I think that sums it up pretty well
Hi stuart ordered a brand new 350 classic dark gun metal grey today pic up next week cant wait it will sit with my bmw r850r ps ime 66 lol thanks for your enthusiasm for the brand cheers bill 👍
For me the classic 350 is a more refine motorcycle but I like my 500cc classic c5 military is a much more classic motorcycle with more personality. I believe the new 350 takes away from the real classic feel because it's more refine. I'm hooked on the 500 that's a real bullet for me. But if you buy a 350 that's a personal choice and still a good motorcycle.
Yesterday I drove over six and a half hours to look at a 2012 500 Classic Bullet with less than 1000 kms on the clock, and it looked great ! When I took it for a ride I was sorely dissapointed. Because of it's looks I was expecting a real old fashioned motorcycle , but I soon found out its not. It's nothing like a proper Royal Enfield... The fuel injection system really screws up the bike... I will get a proper bike somewhere else.
After riding a Vespa for the last 8 years I haven’t the bottle to take it over 50mph so far! But then again..I’ve only had it for one and a half weeks (350cc) Plus I’ve just turned 60
Great video Stuart. I have just embarked on my Royal Enfield journey with the new classic 350. This decision was inspired by my increasing years and a need to fall in love with motorcycling again. I have for the last six years been riding a Yamaha royal star tour deluxe 1300 4 cylinder beast. She was my pride and joy. However like my ex wives I fell out of love with her and sought a slimmer, younger lady. I can safely say I’m in love again.
It’s fun hurtling down the road at 65 mph with the symphony of disjointed vibrations attacking you from every contact point you have with it.... And yes I have a classic chrome 2016 model....
It's a no brainer the motors these days make alot more power than 15-25yrs ago.With computers helping with fueling & timing to get air fuel ratio spot on.The 350 is smoother & you'd probably only notice the difference on hills or heavy acceleration.The 500 has character & is a higher maintenance bike & is now a collectable.Late model 500's made in the past 5yrs are going to be highly desirable now & if you want one it's time to get one. Still a few new one's to be had in NZ 🇳🇿 for the same price as they were a year ago.
Beauties and great to hear about the history etc! My worries re the classic is lack of rev guage and gear indicator. But those are things I am used to as a learner...prob dont need them now. (The only time I look at the gears is when am coming to stop and just to check when starting off).
The 350 is a beautiful bike, but I think if you have a 500 and replaced it, you would regret it in the long run. I have a classic 500 and an interceptor (INT 650 here) and even though the twin is so much smoother in all respects, some days I just long for that old mechanical feel of the 500. Would love to add the 350 to my garage, but not replace the 500 with it.
I'm from America, so when I saw the McDonalds in your video, I felt sadness and pitied the great people of Britain. Shaking my head, "My God, what have we done."
I was told by my dealer that the weight specification in the Classic 500's manual is way off, which I believe. If it only had a max. payload of 95kg, mine would be on it's last legs 🤣 Great video as always 🙂
Thanks for the info! Ill Look Into it when I get back from my Trip!
Tell that to those REs in India carrying a husband, wife, and 5 kids haha
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That weight specification responds to the maximum load that you can carrt without losing performance, off course you can carry more than that but at performance expense
Exciting times... my RE Classic 500 trials arrives tomorrow morning. I'm 67 and feel like a schoolboy again!
this comment is pure joy!
Even with identical performances, the deep and pulsing engine sound of the 500 as well the ease of steep climbing at almost idle regime without effort, and the exquisit ritual charm of having a kickstarter to use even after several rainy weeks makes the difference. These are the main reasons why I'l will keep my 2018 Classic . After these years of ownership I am far from being bored. Why swap it?
I own a classic 500 since 2011. Even today, It’s as amazing as it was on the first ride. It’s just Excellent !!
Unfortunately, Royal Enfield has discontinued the 500cc engine in India. Still ! There is lot of respect for the bike
I am also proud owner of a 2015 model Royal Enfield Classic 500cc Desert Storm✌️👍 India🤘 Superb 👌
I own the 2011 model also. I just finished my toughest Himalayan solo ride (the new Zanskar route). I cracked the frame but got it welded while coming back and it's ready for another ride.
I am sure royal enfield has a classic 650 up in their sleeves
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From the first time I rode my 2013 500 it put a smile on my face. Nine years later I still love my RE
great video.
I bought my Classic 500 new in 2018 & I've never regretted it. It's a lovely, relaxed bike to ride in the lanes & by-roads near home (Yorkshire Dales). As I post this, I'm returning from an extended trip through the Cotswolds. I did a bit of M-way running but was glad to get off it asap. The vibrations aren't intrusive now (5800 miles) but if you do have a smidge of mechanical sympathy, you'll keep the bike in its comfort zone of no more than 60mph. Travelling @ 50 on A-roads is easy & relaxed. Personally, I wouldn't swap the 500 as it does everything I need.
Just picked up a 2015 one owner classic 500 last week with givi hard panniers and only 757 miles for £2595, I think I got lucky.
Waiting for my new 350 nine weeks now supposed to be six weeks. so getting a bit fed up . I have the Desert storm 500 but never really got on with the colour . Im getting the chrome red which to me is the best colour . Thanks for the review Stuart . it as helped with the awful doubt i have in thinking I have made a mistake and may be getting an under powered bike and may have regrets. All the best with your new bike. I have a 1980 350 R/E as well that Im going to sell . Just like you I love Royal Enfield's My first was the 1948 G2
I have an old Bullet 350 STD (2014 model) And I carry about 30kg of camping equipment with my 60kg pillion and I'm 85kg, total of 175kg.
We travel and camp in rural areas, even at high altitude, we can cruise around 80kph on highway with all that weight and she hauls like a champ. Some areas we've been are gnarly, like pottery level mud gnarly and she does just fine. Never fails me as long as proper maintenance is applied. I will never let go of that bike even though I am aiming for an upgrade to the Himalayan.
And what you said about the new 350 is true, that engine is just superb. 👌
I’m so happy that the Classic got an update. I got my 500 in Nov 2019, and was shocked the models would be shut down in 2020, but I’m glad it came back, and better than ever since it performs the same, and has longer maintenance intervals and modern conveniences.
Thanks for this honest breakdown. For me, it is a choice of the heart to stick with my Classic 500 Pegasus edition and spend a little more time on maintenance (which to be honest, is for me part of riding a motorcycle - getting greasy once in a while) Partly because it is not too far off from my first ever bike - a 1972 Enfield India Bullet 350 - which later I passed on to my father. And already the difference between these 2 bikes in reliability (it must be said that 1972 wasn't a particular good RE year - I had a LOT of grease time with that one! 😆) but keeping to that typical driving experience - with MUCH improved gearbox 😅. Truth be said - if it were not for the Pegasus model already in my garage - If I would have to make the choice today, I would not rule out the new classic 350, but my good ole "Badger" has grown to my heart in such a way - I am unlikely to part with it. 🙂
Questions answered 👍for every day riding the new 350. For occasional sunny days the 500. I love the added character of my 500. Never ridden a bike quite like it. Definitely a keeper 👍
I too was baffled by the weight figures in the owners manual of my Bullet Trials 500. The values made no sense whatsoever. The bike itself weighed just under 200kg. And with a declared maximum payload of just 95kg, I was in theory, too fat to actually ride the bike!! ( I do of course have a very heavy jacket, helmet, boots and gloves! Nothing to do with being huge!)
I do appreciate the in depth knowledge of Stuart and in the not so distant future intend to buy a Classic 350, but here is a question for You Stuart is it possible to get the Trials modifications gear sprockets, Trials frame, bars, tank etc. As I would like to enter for the Manx Two Day Trial in September which fits in neatly with the Manx Grand Prix in September. THANK YOU - *ALLANX
Thanks! I've been sort of waiting for someone to come along and really compare the old UCE Bullet with the new J-Engine 350 Meteor or Classic head-to-head. Maths aside, once that 350's properly broken in, I hope you'll reprise this comparison with some real world appraisal of their respective "reasonable" top speeds, such as one might briefly use for passing, their "happiest" cruising speeds, and maybe take a stab at assessing that pleasant yet hard to define "Thumping Oompf Factor" one has rather come to expect with Enfield singles. As you know, I'm still swanning around on one of their original model preunit Iron Cylinder Bullet 500s. Its horsepower, torque and other numbers on their face may seem "unimpressive", even anemic, but they belie the fact that its "ultra-primitivo" ride experience is lovely and deliberate all the same, rather like firing an old black powder pistol compared to just promiscuously emptying a Glock. I do hope you'll revisit these two when both are ready.
J-platform engine & chasis in 500cc with a kickstart is my dream build.
Sadly currently Enfield has little incentive to make 500cc classic since that price range is now occupied by 650 twins and upcoming 450cc himalyan platform.
Uncle Stu, My wife and I just rented a Meteor 350 and we both were amazed how well it managed riding two up. ( We both are 80 kg). She was pleasantly surprised how comfortable the pillion seat was. I will own a classic 350 by the end of this year. The Halcyon colors and Chrome versions are supposed to reach the USA later this year. Also rented an interceptor 650 the following day and loved the smooth power delivery but the ergonomics of the interceptor did not work for me, so I think a Super Meteor 650 will be added to the corral once they launch. I think that will be perfect for two up riding and the Classic 350 will become my solo bike. I found the Meteor very nimble whereas the Interceptor felt much heavier on the steering. Hopefully the Super Meteor will be as nimble as it’s smaller displacement sibling.
I was tempted by an old classic, RE, BSA or Triumph etc. My friend acquired a BSA Starfire and it looks lovely. It was quite up together but his bills for parts, chrome work and modifications are shocking, let alone the time commitment fettling. I haven’t that sort of cash/spare time so went for the RE Classic for the style, reliability, build quality and use-ability - I’ve done more miles in 3 months than a certain Starfire has done in 2 1/2 years! Everyone to their own and go with your heart….you’ll still have more satisfaction and pleasure than sitting in a tin box.
I have several psa2 50 singles and all variations I have found them to be extremely reliable being very simple there's not a whole lot to go wrong. I just got a beautiful 67 C15 Starfire with 6000 original miles on it for $500 with an alloy tank on it. Unmolested matching numbers the whole nine yards. My 1959 C15 Starfire with a B-25 motivated cruises to up 60 miles an hour all day in Florida no trouble at all. If you blew up your 250es motor trying to keep up with friends who have 500 and 650 that is not the bikes fault that is your fault.
I have a classic 500 but I had to testride the 350. I had expectations from hearing a lot about how close it should be to the old 500.
I loved the seat (so comfy), liked the absent of the strong vibrations, but: there is almost no power down low. I dont need to go fast but wihtout the low rpm torque its not the same. With the 350 you have to rev way higher to get going, especially on hilly, winding streets, and with that more gear changes.
The 350 is a neat bike, but I absolutely keep my 500.
having covered a few hundred miles I disagree with that observation.
@@stuartfillingham Maybe is shoud have said mountainous instead of hilly; mountainous like the swiss alps. In this terrrain here, there is defenetly a difference in performance with lower revs ;-)
@@Muntschitschi could it be the altitude rather than the terrain itself? I don't know how the difference in oxygen concentration could affect performance in that regard, but it could be
Though I own the Meteor 350, it shares the same engine with the new Classic 350. I think that the Meteor 350 has enough torque down low. Then again, I'm not in the mountains, and the mountains we have aren't like the Alps or our Rockies.
I'll wait for the new 500 Classic in Black chrome 😉
sorry to say.. there won't by any classic 500 anymore. it will be 350 / 650 mid 400 Cc only.
@@arunkumarkalyanam7219 BSA Goldstar will be a 650cc single..maybe then RE will change its mind. I am not convinced 350cc will be enough for US and European market.
@@pr7049 may be... I haven't visit US and Europe.. so i cant coment :). however its totally depend on pricing...Adding to that I just bought classic chrome bronze edition 350 Cc. you can cruze 100 kmph.. its my own coment.
@@arunkumarkalyanam7219 In US and Europe you cruise 120 kmph /70mph in highways.😌You cannot avoid driving them..
@@pr7049 you can go similar speed of 120 kmph in RE but it won't give you fun to ride also not safe to ride more tna 100kmph. I have car to ride fast in highway. i use RE only in city . people won't fail to look over you while you ride classic chrome...
Always loved the 500, and I will always love my 500 classic, and will keep mine. Thanks for the video !
Used to own a BSA Victor 500 single cylinder and a 1979 Triumph Bonneville twin. Both vibrated too much at highway speed, breaking turn signal filaments and shaking nuts and bolts loose. Currently own two Moto Guzzis and am very satisfied, although I am teased by the Royal Enfields--beautiful bikes. --Mike
RE have been reluctant to upgrade. 14 years back when I went to buy my thunderbird they were still selling classics with cast Iron engine and the salesperson took pride In recommending it if we want the real "bullet feel". The twinspark UCE was still newly launched and I opted for it as I felt It would be more reliable. that engine on the classic did wonders for RE sales. Now the new J platform is another step towards efficient and easy to maintain machines. The 500 will be replaced by the classic 650 twin, another bike to lookout for!! nice video as always.
Hi Stuart, You have a melodious voice and great videos. Quality over Quantity, do your thing and take your time, we'll all wait :>} vroom..!!
Even if don't own any of these bikes it's really a pleasure to listen to your opinion and comparison. Have a nice day. 🎉
Great, honest opinion (although I nearly bought a 500 Chrome a couple of years ago, but the vibration was unbearable so bought an Interceptor instead). One issue that is important when considering buying a Classic 350 is that the first service has to be conducted after 300 miles. I got to 200 miles on the clock and tried to book the first service only to be told that the first available slot is in 1 months' time, effectively restricting my rideability. I'm retired and don't use the bike to commute so I can wait, however if anyone buys the Classic 350 as their sole transport this could be a serious restriction so book your first service as soon as possible after buying the bike because as soon as you start riding it, you'll be addicted and the 300 miles will come around very quickly. One final issue is that my 1st choice dealer is 45 miles away, located in a tiny village with no local amenities and they require the bike to be dropped off the day before to allow it to cool off to adjust the tappets, so I have to make two 90 mile round trips, so make sure your RE dealer is close by.
Hi Paul I thought that I had wrote this for a moment. I’m propping mine off on Sunday for her first service after having to wait 6 weeks I will also be picking her up on Monday so yes two trips to Bolton Motorcycle’s so that’s two OAPs thinking 🤔 it’s never been like this before 😃👍
About a year ago I won at auction an ‘09 500 Bullet with 1519 miles. Sat in a private airplane hanger for who knows? Before taking possession I had opportunity to ride a new 350 at a Royal Enfield ride day. 4 650’s & 2 350’s were available for demo rides. We took a leisurely ride through the country side around a lake for about 45 minutes. Lots of stop & go. Me & the other 350 had issue keeping up with the pack of 650’s. My comeback was lots of vibration through the handlebars, peaked RPM keeping up with 55-60 MPH. But comfortable riding. My thoughts were I would “flip” the 500 when I got it because I really got it cheap, not many bidders. At least double my money selling it. Picked up the 500 with trailer. Unknown when it last ran. Flat battery. Had fuel in it, put in a spare battery I had. Fired up smoothly! Drained old gas and oil, new filters in place. 1st ride. What a pleasant experience! Nothing like the 350. The 500 had plenty of power. Not nearly the vibration of the 350. And just smooth laid back backroads ride. I’ve since added saddlebags, needed. A year on and get tons of comments, compliments. I swear its the only RE in my locality. No plans to sell!
The 350 Classic is a beautiful motorcycle in the traditional sense of appearance. Would look good on display in my living room.
I’m about to do my test and was dead set on the 350 after previously wanting a 500. After seeing them both in the flesh and hearing them.. it’s got to be a late 500… I weigh 15 stone so the extra torque will help. I also love the rear end of the 500.
Still in love with my 500...but thanks for the video.
Bike riding for me was like a picnic.Someone brought a spanner,another a pack of fuses,another a tin of bulbs with the pillions having cash! How things have changed our Stuart!
If I can’t fix it I don’t want it!
I bought what was supposedly the last Classic 500 RE Redditch Green Model that entered the country, did not regret it from day one and even though the 350 is a very worthwhile bike I will not be replacing the 500 for it and most probably for anything else. As you have said it has something that resonates with riders who want it for what it is. I am 68 and have been riding bikes consistently since I was 16 from a Honda C50 to a Ducati Multistrada and just about everything in between, the classic 500 is most probably the bike I have been most content with.
I would not be surprised if time shows that not many will swap their 500 for a 350 and most of the sales of the 350 will be new riders to the RE stable. Which is a good thing.
Great video Stuart however i'm not sure about the kerb weight of the 500 at 270kg. Seems an awful lot. Sources on various sites including one RE pdf states kerb weight incl 90% fuel between 190-195kg ??
I can only go by my official classic 500 user manual.
I can confirm my manual 2019 model. gives the same figures that Stuart read out!
@@stevewalker1677 Mine too 2020 model.
Yeah I think it’s fair to say the manual is incorrect. There is no way the 500 is 270kgs. My 500 ‘feels’ significantly lighter than my Interceptor (or at least there is less weight to manhandle around the garage/driveway). Great video as always
If you're primarily choosing one of these as your primary bike and commuter, the all-new more refined 350 will just be better in that application. However I might be a bit biased as I recently bought one without even test ridding it and it's an absolute pearl.
Hey Stuart. I bought a ‘96 Honda Dominator last year just after the 3rd lockdown here in France. It began as just a project cooked up with a mate after a bottle or two of rosé. We had the great idea to buy old 80s/90’s single cylinder thumpers and do them up together. I always loved the look of the Dominator when I was younger so hunted down a fairly decent example and started work. It’s only now, 12 months and a few quid later, that she’s running really well and looking more like she did when she rolled off the line. I never meant her as a keeper but it’s crazy how these old bikes get under your skin! I find myself taking the Domi now more often than my Africa Twin, which used to be my daily bike of choice! Not sure if I could contemplate selling her now but if I did it would be for something with a Royal Enfield badge on!
Having more real vintage/classic made my choice easy:the classic 500 is the one for me the only problem is that I don't ride my old bikes anymore (no oilcheck, will it start ,will stop somewhere inconvinient, lack of good brakes ) my classic 500 gives all the pleasure off "old" bike with modern performance and I like the rough side more then the silky 350
Wonderful video essay. Outside of RE specific information, you relay a lot of universal biking (and life) wisdom - I wish all reviewers would listen. Thanks, Stuart!
I had the opportunity to ride the Classic 350 for the first time yesterday in the afternoon and I must admit I'm pretty impressed with this bike. Everything works flawlessly - the gearbox is excellent, the clutch fairly light, the suspension does its job and the looks are simply overwhelming. The ride is pure joy. The only thing left to consider is the color option, but I'll buy one without a question! The only criticism I have is that from my impression the overall gearing ratio seems to be a bit too high causing me constantly to be one gear lower than I thought I was. I've found I needed at least 60 kph / 36 mph for 4th gear. As a result of it, I was cruising around town in 2nd-3rd gear most of the time (a bit low for my liking). In my opinion, a couple more teeth on the rear sprocket would do the Classic 350 a favor and it's an easy fix.
Fully agree. I also had the chance to ride the new 350 last week. For me the 350 is the better choice compare to the 500. More stable, smooth engine, very few mechanical noise, good handling.
Stuart, a Philadelphia dealer HAD a 2018 Classic 500 with 10K-20K miles on it, and it was selling for about $2K more than it sold for new. Even so, that sucker was GONE in a week or so! It didn't last long...
I seldom post comments, however I feel to offer another on the same thread! Stuart Fillingham's posts and videos are enjoyed by thousands across the world now and he has almost certainly lead to more sales than scores of dealers put together.
Whilst it is understood that a 'head above the parapet' is going to attract some fire, some comments are a bit strong and accusative - whether facts are right or otherwise. Lighten up! Stuart is an enthusiast who does this for little reward (RUclips isn't that lucrative) and gives up a lot of his time I'm sure. It would be a great shame if this channel calls it a day owing to too many unjustifiable negative comments.
Thanks for your Support Keith.
I'll be keeping my Bullet 500 trials.
It's got an old world, big single character that nothing else matches.
It's undergeared for sure, but a Hitchcocks 19t front sprocket cures that and gives the bike longer legs for cruising.
Love it to bits (hopefully not literally u understand).
Thanks so much for the comparson Stuart. I am hopeful I can buy a 350 soon and start my long overdue tours of Northern Thailand. IMO there is so much more to see than the fleshpots too many tourists think is the key to the "Land of Smiles" that I call home.
I have got the classic 500 squadron blue limited edition bike no.71 out of 200 all over got a RRP exhaust to it so that I get the thump of Enfield and everytime I accelerate I can feel the torque kicking in. Always a classic 500 fan
Just the video I was looking for. Here in the US there are both old 500s (with 125 miles) and the new 350s for sale at about the same price. The weight difference is enough for me, I popped one of the 350s up on the center stand with ease and I need to ride down a dirt road for a couple miles which makes the lighter bike more appealing.
Thanks Stu, another great video but just a couple of thoughts. Personally I'm not expecting to see a classic 500 anytime soon. The 500's are from a time before the new twins were introduced and I'm not sure if they'd be a big enough market for them now between the classic 350 and the interceptor. And personality I'll be sticking to my AVL 500 pre unit bullet, primary transmission oil dribble and all, even though it makes your unit 500 look sophisticated just because I love it to pieces. Have a safe journey to Brighton mate.
I understand the sentiment. Having a EFI Classic 500 I still compare it to my first bike - a 1972 Bullet 350 "Royal Oilfield" 🙂. Despite the EFI being better in terms of brakes and reliability, but keeping that grin factor - I have been tempted to get a pre unit on the side. Just the whole starting process on a cold morning made me feel like a machinist - a whole ritual to be followed. It was the bike that taught me everything about motorcycle engineering and ripping engines apart. The way that the EFI engine kicks over without an issue - or when just being lazy and push that start button are the wise choice for me as some days old injuries can act up and I would not be sure if I could handle the old model punishing me with a nasty kick back for not having performed the starting ritual to the letter😁 But at the same time, if I do come across one of them, I often ask the owner if I could have a go at starting it. Its just an experience you don't get anymore. Its an odd experience that can make you both lament its endurance, but lets you reminiscent fondly at the same time.
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Hi Stuart,
I rode the bikes back to back and found the 500 felt more powerful and had more grunt. Different ride altogether prefer the old 500 much more character.
One man's character is another's pain in the ass. While there's room in the market for wrenchers in the US, they younger market here doesn't really want to tinker with a machine. Hell, I don't want to anymore. While the demand for the 500 has flown off the map in the States, those crying for them were already familiar with the brand-- and its peccadillos. What I'm wondering is if RE is willing to "recreate" the Classic 500 with modern updates, I don't know if it would be received with the same kind of passion the original Bullet inspired. I also wonder if RE has completely abandoned 500cc motors, focusing primarily on building their name on the 650's and 350's, and reserving the 411 solely for the Himalayan. Whatever they do, it'll certainly be interesting to see what they come up with.
Great content and such a calming and pleasent talk with that B roll of the bike chucking on the open roads. Totally agree with your opinion. I own 2015 bullet 500 and the new classic did have me divided over keeping the old or exchanging the old for the new. But considering the value of the old and the price of the new and the raw thump & torque of the old 500, I chose to keep the old and maintain it. Until i ride it under 100kmph, it is all the bike I will ever need. However I just love what RE has done with the new classic, so beautiful, pure art it is.
Well Stuart, I live very near Brighton and don't know of any events relating to motorcycles going on this Thursday? So what am I missing? Your 100% right power is relevant to weight. I'm not sure if there are any tuning parts available for the 350 but it wouldn't take much to make them equal. Unless of course being euro 5 makes it impossible.
Very comprehensive and thorough analysis. Very insightful and objective!!
Thanks for sharing!!
I hadn't even watched it and I immediately gave it a thumbs up. I've been planning to downgrade from my Bullet 500 and this video certainly gave me several insights to draw some conclusions. Thanks a lot, Stuart :D
I was holding out for the rumoured Classic 650 because I was worried about the 350 not having enough power ( I’m about 200lbs) for the freeways and hills of Southern California. Pre-owned 500s are nowhere to be found here. Any thoughts on the 650? Love your channel, btw. Subbed.
Thanks for that feedback. I did ride the 350 I felt was light at speeds of 60 or above and stability was an issue in windy conditions. Compare to the 500 it just carried you through the wind as long as you hold on to it😁.
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Thank You Graham.
Hi there from Luxembourg! Nice review and comparison. I own a 500 Classic Redditch Edition and love the thing, flaws and all.
According to my papers the bike has a weight of 195kg wet and a maximum tolerated weight of 365kg.
A really good honest review Stu , thank you
I got a classic 500 recently. For me the 350 having an lcd screen and not having a Kickstarter prevents it from having a classic vibe as much as the 500 does
Just had a look on the RE site at the British manual for the Classic 500. The manual does indeed state a weight in running order of 270kg and max. pay load of 95kg.
Seems to be a mistake on their part.
One of main reasons I like the 500 is the fact that it's ALL STEEL and not with plastic side covers, the hand painted pin stripes,and the kick starter's there if you need it.I had a 500 BSA twin and a 750 BSA Rocket 3 which I loved. The 500 Royal Enfield seems a little more rough around the edges and less bells and whistles (refined) than the RE 350,and I like that. I wish I had bought one new. Used are going at a premium if you can find one and new ones are almost non existent here in the US. Thanks for all of your great, informative videos with fantastic views of the countryside! I think I'm going to wait and see if they come out with a classic 500. By the way what are the gas mileage stats on the 500 and the 350?
Brilliant video as always Stuart and excellent comparison 😃👍🏻
Going back to the heydays of British iron, most manufacturers offered 500 and 350 options and it was often difficult to tell between the two performance wise.
The Classic 500 is still available at dealerships here in Thailand. The price is THB 189,800 = GBP 4,439.
Lets be honest, few people gave a toss about the ACTUAL weight of a bike before buying - particularly with this type of motorcycle. The looks, feel, sound and a good few other reasons may take priority.
I sat on a new 350 & found it far more comfortable so I chopped in my '21 Classic 500 for one. There's a waiting list for my colour choice and I've never even ridden one, but I like the look and feel of it! I had no idea how many kilo's it was..
Millions spent on R&D would have checked any imbalance here I should think.
Thanks Stuart - I reckon you need to clear the Triumph's out of that garage..!
Thanks for the comparison‼ Your out come was close to what I thought would happen. So go to know. Now if I could just afford to get one and keep my Triumph 😂👏
your videos are like therapy to me thank you so much for the detailed explanation about these absolutely legendary motorcycles.
Hi Stuart
Thank you so much for the last two revenues and in particular this one as I have a Bullet 500. I love your honest and balanced thoughts and final conclusion... I have just once choice...which is when I can afford an new Classic 350, which may be a long time due to the current financial situation, I also keep my beloved 500...
Many thanks Stuart 😊🔆
I didnt believe until i witness 11:08 that my friend told me 'if you are on RE bike people will see you until you ride pass them'.
Enjoyed your comments. As good as the 350 is, I'm hoping RE will bring back an improved 500 that has the balance shafts or whatever magic that made the 350 so smooth. Perhaps better yet, develop a 650 single to compete with the anticipated BSA single supposedly coming to market. The only thing visually that I don't like with the BSA is the radiator hanging on front.
'Mathematics don't lie' ? As a high school student from 40-*mumble* years ago, I watched my maths teacher 'notionally prove' that 1+1=3 ...
And wasn't it Mark Twain that said "There are 3 types of lies: usual lies, damnable lies, and worst; statistics"? ;-)
One concern I have is the seat height. The 350 appears to be slightly higher than the classic 500 in your videos. Is it something you think some may have an issue with if swapping from the old classic 500 to the new 350? Incidentally, the owners manual for my 2021 classic 500 Tribute Black states the kerb weight (90% fuel & oil) as being 196kg. So it looks like it’s been amended.
Exactly on thinking engine cut out. It's that smooth. My fireball has tricked me twice. 350 rules
I Love the way you keep it simple & old school Sir.
Greetings 🇮🇳⚙️🔧
Excellent video. I wish I could find a good used 500 classic here in Texas because I'd love to add one to my collection.
Re your comment about bad press reports on Enfield. About 30yrs ago a bike journalist whom I greatly respected, parted company with a mainstream publisher after they insisted that all submissions were submitted in "clear juvenile journalise" I think that sums it up pretty well
Hi stuart ordered a brand new 350 classic dark gun metal grey today pic up next week cant wait it will sit with my bmw r850r ps ime 66 lol thanks for your enthusiasm for the brand cheers bill 👍
Royal enfield 350cc my favourite choice new generation I like you and my favourite colour
Thank you for the video. How is the suspension comfort on the new 350 compared to 500 ?
i prefer the looks of the old 500. the seat springs, the kick stARTer the lack of plastic , i guess what we need now is a 650 classic twin ?
just watched, now i want one ive only one bike i deserve another ! great vids as always cheers.
Movement of truth but i will go with old classic
Because old classic gives feel of proper machine
For me the classic 350 is a more refine motorcycle but I like my 500cc classic c5 military is a much more classic motorcycle with more personality. I believe the new 350 takes away from the real classic feel because it's more refine. I'm hooked on the 500 that's a real bullet for me. But if you buy a 350 that's a personal choice and still a good motorcycle.
Yesterday I drove over six and a half hours to look at a 2012 500 Classic Bullet with less than 1000 kms on the clock, and it looked great ! When I took it for a ride I was sorely dissapointed. Because of it's looks I was expecting a real old fashioned motorcycle , but I soon found out its not. It's nothing like a proper Royal Enfield... The fuel injection system really screws up the bike... I will get a proper bike somewhere else.
After riding a Vespa for the last 8 years I haven’t the bottle to take it over 50mph so far!
But then again..I’ve only had it for one and a half weeks (350cc)
Plus I’ve just turned 60
Great video Stuart. I have just embarked on my Royal Enfield journey with the new classic 350. This decision was inspired by my increasing years and a need to fall in love with motorcycling again. I have for the last six years been riding a Yamaha royal star tour deluxe 1300 4 cylinder beast. She was my pride and joy. However like my ex wives I fell out of love with her and sought a slimmer, younger lady. I can safely say I’m in love again.
It’s fun hurtling down the road at 65 mph with the symphony of disjointed vibrations attacking you from every contact point you have with it....
And yes I have a classic chrome 2016 model....
Very helpful information on the R E . 👍 Thanks Stu .😊
the weight of the classic 350 is 195kg the classic 500 is 187kg, you can feel the difference, but the weight of the 350 does feel lower down!
Accessories videos I want from uncle
Bar end mirrors
Mirror blanking screw
Rear pannier rail
And finally how to remove rear seat at home.
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It's a no brainer the motors these days make alot more power than 15-25yrs ago.With computers helping with fueling & timing to get air fuel ratio spot on.The 350 is smoother & you'd probably only notice the difference on hills or heavy acceleration.The 500 has character & is a higher maintenance bike & is now a collectable.Late model 500's made in the past 5yrs are going to be highly desirable now & if you want one it's time to get one.
Still a few new one's to be had in NZ 🇳🇿 for the same price as they were a year ago.
Excellent review and perspective!
Beauties and great to hear about the history etc! My worries re the classic is lack of rev guage and gear indicator. But those are things I am used to as a learner...prob dont need them now. (The only time I look at the gears is when am coming to stop and just to check when starting off).
Have a great weekend ride sir!
What do you think about about the steep climbing ability of the 350?Is the power good enough for high inclined mountain roads?
The 350 is a beautiful bike, but I think if you have a 500 and replaced it, you would regret it in the long run.
I have a classic 500 and an interceptor (INT 650 here) and even though the twin is so much smoother in all respects, some days I just long for that old mechanical feel of the 500. Would love to add the 350 to my garage, but not replace the 500 with it.
Great video Stuart! I was just wondering: What about the sound differences?
Hey oop uncle Stu! You are always the best, a gentleman and a Gentleman, really.
I'm from America, so when I saw the McDonalds in your video, I felt sadness and pitied the great people of Britain. Shaking my head, "My God, what have we done."
Thanks for interesting and thoughtful comparison.
Thanks from John in Butte Montana
Great advice and review thank you Stuart